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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Latest expansion pack is Chronogenesis
shadowverse.com/cardpack/chronogenesis/
Chronogenesis anniversary leaders - Albert, Cerberus, Dark General

NEWS
No nerfs in December
shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=483
Rotation, formats, new class
shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=442

Official Website
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TechHater
TechHater

how do you play portal?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Pig is Haram

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

veekyforums.com/thread/202059896/video-games
You're the one who shits this general, ESL dragoncuck.

askme
askme

Why is he happy?

King_Martha
King_Martha

I need to feed her

Emberburn
Emberburn

he

Nojokur
Nojokur

Seek help

Booteefool
Booteefool

Both of these guys are new IPs, shitposter.

massdebater
massdebater

Already fed

FastChef
FastChef

Underage should left.

Flameblow
Flameblow

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UCa5IN0zZVWRTmZGcSjWpykIi1QR8j-c60fqE9qFb-Q/edit#gid=307295015
12 ToG nerfed cards and the pack is still causing problems to this date
13 WD nerfed cards
out of 32 nerfs in total
literally can't make this shit up

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

C-can she wrestle with bahamut?

Snarelure
Snarelure

sv.bagoum.com/voice/j/vo_107011030_3.mp3

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

j

WebTool
WebTool

kys weebcuck

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

They censored Spinaria out of the SV version
What did Cygames mean by this?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Stop shitposting

Booteefool
Booteefool

Fill your deck with with rush followers that cost negative pp and pray you don't draw Safira early.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Also her breasts look....wrong? like if she was a doll or a puppet,talking about the line on her ribcage

RumChicken
RumChicken

That's because ToG was when they started doing monthly nerfs, beforehand nerfs were rare and reserved for the real bullshit

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Anyone got decent dragon deck for unlimited(preferably)/rotation I am getting my ass kicked on every corner

also: 85133 need concede

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Her breasts look wrong because there's no underboob.
But yeah, it's like they've traced over her rib cage to make it stand out more and made it look unnatural.

eGremlin
eGremlin

thnx memthre

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Rotation :^)

StonedTime
StonedTime

The 'real bullshit' of RoB Daria and Roach were piercing rune and goblin mage
No, the fucking problems were Daria, Levi, and Roach. But Cygames refused to hit legends and prebuilt cards back then, and unlimited is still paying for those mistakes.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Why would you play Dragon in the fast format where it just gets OTK'd or torn apart by aggro, instead of the slow format that plays directly into its strengths?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Am I the only one that think salamander breath should lose its enhance? Nowadays dragon have so much removal it only serves to make ramp too much safe and goes unpunished against mostly everything not roach.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Stop shitposting. Every fucking day and those copy-pastas.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Go back to bed, rowen.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Ambush was a mistake

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Thread is dead because nobody want to talk or share stuff with discordians and redditors.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Not much material to share.

happy_sad
happy_sad

veekyforums.com/thread/202059896/video-games
he doesn't like spats

Lunatick
Lunatick

The thread is dead because there's nothing to talk about. SFL and CG added little in the way of new decks to the game, and rotation is so completely stripped of deck options you can immediately tell what deck you're playing against from their class. To the point where I don't think even nerfs will really do anything for rotation other than shuffle WRs around. Hopefully they hit a few things in unlimited so people can just forget that mistake.

TechHater
TechHater

supporting censorship
thinking those mspaint tier spats look good
You are kinda dumb, aren't you?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Spats are fine when it was part of the original art, like Moonbun. When it's done like says it looks like shit.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

/hsg/ autists post dubshit and hearthstone cards
That dragon autist
Newfags who don't even know what waifu means
Those 2 or 3 turbo autists who spent almost everyday baiting/shitposting
Oh boy I really wonder why this thread is so damn dead. Has anyone here even mentioned that NGE is starting again?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Aggro can't brick, it's consistent

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

you forgot the insufferable weebcucks

Bidwell
Bidwell

complaining about weebs in a weeb general
Kill yourself. Autists like you are the reason this general is dead.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I've never watched a single NGE tournament and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Subhuman, still here? Let me teach you about waifus again.

DeathDog
DeathDog

how many buzzwords can this weebcuck keep spouting lmao

whereismyname
whereismyname

Me neither but playing is alright if you don't have anything better to do.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Back to /hsg/ dubshit.

Techpill
Techpill

this game is really fucking bad

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

NGE format is fucking awful. After the open stage clusterfuck of literal whos, they do sets of weekly esports 1 set matches with the same people over and over until the finals. At since there's bans at that stage, you can't even tell if the decks (or players) are good or not since everyone just bans out the rock to whatever scissors they brought.
Also I refuse to give views to any organization that thinks hiring the tranny was a good idea.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Just add support for sideboards, 10 cards, and make BO3s single deck.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Is this WLD?

RavySnake
RavySnake

it's all good as long as you don't choke on rage/jcg's cock thinking the player quality is better like a retard

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

It is,though.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Rage has the worst presentation I have ever seen for a competitive event. 3 minutes matches with 30 minute intermissions in between.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

On the subject of tournaments, the Premier Cup is in 2 days as well. It will be cool to see how the Unlimited meta plays out. JCG results have shown that Roach is extremely popular in BO3, but it doesn't usually win the overall event. Storm Haven, Dirt Rune, Mid Sword, Aggro Forest, Atomy, and a few others have done well in Unlimited JCGs, in addition to the usual Aggro/Vengeance Blood and Roach.
Dragon, DShift, and CBlood also have a history of being heavily represented in tourneys and I'm curious to see how well they do with Roach being as consistent as it currently is. Hopefully creative stuff like Hasu's Mammoth/Dorothy/DShift list appear again.

DeathDog
DeathDog

nice to hear you didn't follow the wgp or closed the stream as soon as you saw 4 baka gajins making it to the quarterfinals
you don't have to be glued to the screen all the time, just open the video when you hear the match begin (and maybe mute the audio)

Flameblow
Flameblow

Remind me, how often did that portugese retard miss lethal?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

life if she was a doll

shes more like an android created with biological computing instead of mechanical computing

happy_sad
happy_sad

enough times to place second

Techpill
Techpill

It's alright /hsg/-kun. Just stick to watching your tranny.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Complain general is dead due to shitposters you don't like running wild
shitpost every comment in their place
I'm not even being ironic at this when I say this general is no longer necessary, and should just merge back into /mbgg/ until reveals month.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

is atomeme the fastest way to farm ranked points?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

In unlimited the fastest is obviously aggro blood.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Not the same person(s).

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Need a concede please
49105

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

The spats on Dragon Caller ain't so bad. But it is an exception.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Thank you triple luckshitter

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

When will they add more non gacha alt leaders

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

No problem, poorfag.

Methshot
Methshot

insulting people on my behalf
I did not even whale hard. Just got lucky.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

pretending to be me
I dropped like 2k on the game, so what?

Techpill
Techpill

did the spooky skeleton man turn out to be playable?

TreeEater
TreeEater

No serious reason to play him at the moment.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

He might be playable in a future cshadow deck, but right now he's just take 2 fodder.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I wanted to try it in a reanimate deck. But losing soul conversion sucks. Demon Eater and Necroass might work but it's not enough. And no one runs Troth's Curse.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

No. But I can already hear the cries for nerfs when his last word smashes a few faces for 20.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

t. never read the card

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

why do i only see fringe decks when I'm testing out something and they end up beating me

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Hi.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Any good mulligan simulator?

Evilember
Evilember

Bagoum.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What the fuck is that forestcraft mod, and why is it so ugly?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

We know you're responding to yourself because nobody gives a fuck anymore.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Replying to himself would be a thing that he would do, but you got the wrong guy officer.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I lost 500 MP today with atomeme - inconsistent, vulnerable shit. Farmed them back with Nephtys right after.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I should buy packs of the wrong expansion more often

askme
askme

Should I get rid of any?

Bidwell
Bidwell

How do you play Nephthys in a 7PP cap mode?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

The only unusable one is vial dominator

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

vial dominator

askme
askme

only if you eat it afterwards

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

D-shift :)

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

kys luckshitter

iluvmen
iluvmen

upboated

:D

TreeEater
TreeEater

piercing rune nerf immediately made daria into a sub 50% deck for three expansions

gobu nerf made roach significantly more fragile early and so it again wasn't dominant for three expansions till they printed a strong support for it, aria

could you stop shitting the general

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I haven't played in a while, particularly since I heard rotation was being added. How fucked is the game now?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

lurching corpses
skull rings
draw power
catabomb
reanimate and thane
eacthar thane eachtar aisha aisha
What are we supposed to do?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

he doesn't adapt
just adapt bro

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I wish

Nojokur
Nojokur

just baha bro

hairygrape
hairygrape

Revelation, Demonic, Eggsplosion, Humpty Dumpty.

hairygrape
hairygrape

It's like Daria but with neutrals instead.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

turn 7
It's really is I guess.

Illusionz
Illusionz

b-but they nerfed it! i-it's unplayable n-now!

farquit
farquit

Rotation.

As funny as it sounds, that also doesn't always work. Like, you need at least 3 baha and the full power of saha's package just to end up dying to Aisha.

whereismyname
whereismyname

listening spirited away's one summer day
play burn rune
oz emblem
play oz
got 3x piercing rune
spam "doushio" emote
haven opponent concede

SniperGod
SniperGod

There are people unironically saying Dirt Rune is tier 1 and it should be nerfed

It's literally one of worst meta decks in the game right now. Either you go 2nd and lose (which happens in about 8/9 games and counting) or you mulligan right into your high end making you brick and lose.

The mirror is even worse since Sigil-Illusionist-Pious-Halo Golem happens quite often and is very difficult to deal with going second.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

There are people unironically saying MIdshadow is tier 1 and it should be nerfed
It's literally one of worst meta decks in the game right now. Either you go 2nd and lose (which happens in about 8/9 games and counting) or you mulligan right into your high end making you brick and lose.
The mirror is even worse since Goblin-Belenus-Skull Ring-Catacomb happens quite often and is very difficult to deal with going second.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

so oz has a dick after all

Booteefool
Booteefool

blood
I'm sorry. I truly am. But you're doing this to yourself.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

hot

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

size?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

That's homosexuality.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Open 10 CG packs
Get both Cerberus and Exella at once
Well, that was a good expansion, see you later lucklets!

w8t4u
w8t4u

Consistency isn't the issue, although the deck is fairly consistent at losing when it goes second like you mentioned. It's the same issue as Daria where if the deck high rolls you win and there isn't much the opponent can do about it right now unless they're dragon who also got lucky. When a decks win rate is 50% "i draw the cards i need and win" and 50% "i didn't and i lost" that's not much fun for either player involved and why the deck is a problem. Both decks also feature the dice roll mechanic of "draw a bunch of cards and hope they're the ones you need right now" which again is something that can't be played around that well if they manage to either get Daria into Daria or Oz into good spells.

Not printing a new Themis or Rev was a mistake that allows these decks to flourish but printing a new Themis or Rev could ruin the format for other decks so you might as well hit rune instead and then toss out some nerfs to actual over performers like Dragon and a preemptive nerf to Haven to stop them from being #1. I still believe that a there can be a viable control rune deck that uses Mysteria and Neutral Rune and Midrange Dirt are also still very good so it's not like Rune suddenly runs out of decks to play if they stop Burn from being completely faceroll.

TreeEater
TreeEater

ugly dog
plain character
irmao

Methnerd
Methnerd

Yea I agree Cerberus is ugly, I don't play Shadow anyway but her card back will make shadowbabs angry. Exella is pretty cute tho

JunkTop
JunkTop

Ayyy lmao, Mill Shadow

youtu.be/rkWwKNHpqZM

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

then toss out some nerfs to actual over performers like Dragon and a preemptive nerf to Haven to stop them from being #1
I wonder who could be behind this "civil" shitpost.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

why am I watching smogon OU meta

Flameblow
Flameblow

smogon

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

What's the best substitute for Carabosse to grind ranked score in Unlimited B0?

Supergrass
Supergrass

imp lancer

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

d e a d
e
a
d

Emberfire
Emberfire

For fuck's sake.

RumChicken
RumChicken

sushi :D

StonedTime
StonedTime

it's a "draw the card you needed 1 turn late" episode
I really fucking hate this game.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I hope they don't nerf anything this month

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Vampychan Psycho!

TreeEater
TreeEater

I hope they nerf the looseness of your asshole because you seem like the guy who can take 4 dicks simultaneaously

TreeEater
TreeEater

Don't talk about Rowen like that...

Inmate
Inmate

Dont worry guys, steam users say Bahamut is fine.
He rarely sees play at higher ranks. So quit complaining noobs.

Emberburn
Emberburn

tfw i'm a noob now

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

20180117
arena
Bahamut

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Fuck off back to reddicord, netdecker.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Whether or not it's as good as it should be, I don't think it's THAT far off, and honestly Artifact Portal is just FUN to play.
You may so many little decisions about what to play and when, not uncommonly having to consider next turn as well (particularly when DEM has been played).

It's like Midshadow, you can pretty readily and quickly developed a wide board, but without the bullshit of Thane and Eachtar. It's like the more-honest version of Midshadow.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

did they fix the bug yet
is it safe to game

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Dragonuck damage control has no bounds

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Do people really abuse it?
I mean why would anyone waste their fucking time fishing for wins with shadow, after you've gimped your deck, when you can just play Dragon or Rune and get free wins by default.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

AHAHAHAHA.
Fuck you I want Cerby

Inmate
Inmate

That's WHY Storm/Burn/Burst cancer should be nerfed.
Regardless of actual win % that these idiots in Japan are stupid enough to only look at, non-interactive bullshit just plain isn't FUN to deal with.

Win or lose, a match vs Dirt or Daria Rune, or Dragon, just isn't fun. All they do is sit there waiting to draw well and win, or draw poorly and lose. And god forbid you play anything that's even remotely honest and not aggro (or the mirror) because they're basically ALWAYS draw well eventually and you'll usually lose.
Not because they played well, but because their mere existence prevents the game from being as fun as it should be.

Really, even Haven. No one complains about Haven, and Haven/White/Priest/etc is usually my pet class in games, including this one.
But have you ever tried to play an honest midrange deck against Haven?
Holy fuckin cancer, you literally just go even on board until they Aegis and you can't do shit about it. It's not appreciably healthier than Rune or Dragon, just slower, so it's not a common meta presence for people to bitch about.
(I say all of the above AS a Havenfag who does run Aegis because I have to win with something at some point, and I don't like unearned Storm shit.)

happy_sad
happy_sad

You need to go back, garbage.

Techpill
Techpill

Hi esl-kun.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Seems like a fun deck.

happy_sad
happy_sad

6k rupies saved up for moon bun already

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

2 daria
1 cerberus
2 exella
Anyone want to trade?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Sure. What do you want? As long it's not that fuckboy Alberto or that lipstick wearing whore Aldo. I mean, only fags would want them. You're not a fag, are you?

Spamalot
Spamalot

19 storm damage without evo on turn 7
n-nerf queen lmao

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

/hsg/ is so insecure they go make fake reviews on Steam

StonedTime
StonedTime

ACTUALLY complaining about free shit
ACTUALLY praising blizzard for withholding resources
literal blizzard cuckhold, this post is actually tilting me

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

This can't be real. Someone can't actually be this fucking retarded.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Blizzard saw this review and decided
This is why more than 9 deck slots would confuse players

iluvmen
iluvmen

They're not wrong. Hearthstone indeed does it better and it shows with their much greater playerbase and revenue. Only pedophiles who like underaged girl art actually defend this game.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

p2w is better than f2p
This is your brain on HS.

farquit
farquit

more worth than my entire 40 packs opened
kys

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

three Alberts in one pack
Wew lad

5mileys
5mileys

literally complaining about free shit
the absolute state of hearthcucks

This has to be a troll. There's no way someone is this retarded.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Aisha and Albert side to side.
OTP confirmed.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

it's back from rob, nowadays the start is less generous because there are way more key leggos and their pool is diluted

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

It's actually from WLD.
But they did reduce the free packs from 50 to 40.

Inmate
Inmate

Oops, I meant 60 to 50.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Blatant cheating
Does he mean premium draws?

idontknow
idontknow

I think what it comes down to more than anything is these decks having too much cycle, all the top decks in Rotation all have this one thing in common. I've even been seeing GM Dragon lists running Goblin Mage because it either tutors Aelia for turn 4 evos or Dragon Summoner for even more cycle to get them closer to their combo.

Dirt in particular has obscene cycle between Dwarf Alchemist, Cauldron, and Telescope. Combine that with the card draw on Oz and it's a face deck that can surpass the draw power of control decks that have to lose tempo with Purehearted while Illusionist turns their Earth Sigils into a tempo gain.

But yeah, Oz and Daria are both guilty of having an outcome that almost always ends up with one of the players getting fucked and that's not a great design. It feels awful to lose when you play them and they draw nothing useful and it feels even worse when your opponent gets lucky and you basically lose on the spot.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I'm tired of watching streams in openrec and nips actually believe highrolling with Daria is hella fun. Storm is not going away, dshift is not going away, roach is not going away, OTK is not going away. Cygames knows people love to do some epic combos with dread sea queen and post on twitter because it's story to tell your friends®. Retarded hopeless high-rolls and one turn kills is to Shadowverse what epic RNG winz!1 is to Hearthstone and they're never changing this.

SniperGod
SniperGod

opponent uses Oz to turn all my board into 1/1s along with hitting face with 2 chain lightnings
Oh man, I got so outskilled guys, my opponent totally didn't dump their hand like a retard and get free value refills HOLY FUCK REMOVE RUNE TUMORS

whereismyname
whereismyname

Literally just use Chronos. That stops them from spamming Chain Lightning.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Just Jorm, bro.

askme
askme

It's literally one of worst meta decks in the game right now
I've seen people claiming this for every single meta deck in the game.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Let's look at this objectively, as a Beta-Current HS player and a late-TOG-Current SV player

Hearthstone was first, attached to a small indie company's small indie property (kek)
Shadowverse came later, attached to some obscure series no one has ever watched
So right off the bat, Hearthstone has an immesurable advantage. Like a Pokemon game vs a Yokai Watch game.

Gameplaywise
Hearthstone has the Coin and Hero Powers
Shadowverse has Evolve
Major advantage to Shadowverse, Evolve has a lot more depth and does a far better job balancing turn preference

Hearthstone has massive RNG and several cards "balanced" around being 1-ofs in decks
Hearthstone's card generation heavily involves randomized cards, often from outside the game
Shadowverse has consistency where any card can be played in triplicate
Shadowverse's card generation involves very narrow variance in results (often any random effect has only 2 outcomes) or just other forms of card draw and tutoring
Massive advantage to Shadowverse. Yes, it means cancer is more consistent to go off, but so are your tech answers.
You're not going to lose to a Pyroblast created by Primordial Glyph created by Calabist's Tome created by Babbling Book created by Kabal Courier, as I literally have.

Hearthstone devs rarely make any balance changes or show any interest whatsoever in the balance or health of the game, at least until people complain for 5 or 6 months
Shadowverse devs do it monthly
Do I even really need to say more?

Hearthstone has mostly nerfed Charge out of existence
Shadowverse continues to print strong Storm cards
Well, I'll give the HS guys this one. Would NOT be surprised with a Doomguard nerf next month.

Hearthstone is more popular
Because of memes and bs rng, which comprise well over 90% of the game's views and clips. So exactly everything that makes the game trash to PLAY is why it's fun to WATCH, and that maintains popularity.

Methshot
Methshot

I don't disagree, and I was running Gobbos and Purehearts in a lot of decks before this was a thing, because I know how valuable cycling is to many decks.

Oz and Daria are broken as shit though.
Not only do they draw a ton, they also discount everything by anywhere from 5-20 mana.
Sibyl had the same stats as Oz and ramped for ONE. Oz often ramps upwards of 5-20. (And before you bitch Oz can't be played on 5, Sibyl was often played at 6-7pp already, same as Oz.)

Maybe some idiots should stop stooping to Hearthstone's garbage rng and meme level?
Unless these devs completely lose all professionalism and self-respect, you're NEVER going to compete with Hearthstone in terms of garbage rng meme clip bullshit.

So why not make a better quality game and beat Hearthstone at that?
Shadowverse is ALREADY a better quality game, of course, but you could still chill out on a lot of the non-interactive shit and allow for more counterplay, tech, decisions, etc to matter.

JunkTop
JunkTop

what the fuck is this shit

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Seeing how Daria and dragon acts in rotation I honestly disagree with you on cancer being more consistent. Also evolves stopped being relevant ever since the end of RoB. As much as I like SV I'll be honest and say I really don't think this game is better than HS gameplay wise, but art wise and F2P wise. All in all is just two different types of cancer that I don't think we'll ever see a cure.

farquit
farquit

The point is not copycating HS, the point is players like it that way specially teens. We don't, but must people do. They sell to numbers so we're out of the equation. I know there's plenty of anons here that want to play 3 hours of clbood mirrors but most players just want to drop 5 4/4 followers on turn 5 and force the opponent to concede while taking a screenshot posting on twitter and talking a lot of shit.

Supergrass
Supergrass

GENSOU NO SEKAI E YOUKOSO.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

You can still do that with control-mid decks.
It just takes a few more turns.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

What the fuck are you supposed to do about this? There is no Odin anymore.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Forgot picture.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

not turning her into an angel
Just tech bro. Just rat bro

Lunatick
Lunatick

It's shadow bby!

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Fuck, someone here is 99% right for once. Should've just stacked jorms.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

just adapt bro

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What is the highest number of times that you could theoretically stack mysteria's fanfare? Assuming you'd be working with a forest opponent for the heck of it, they would have a maximum of 6 single-target hostile bounces to work with, meaning 9 normal fanfares in total. Factoring lokis before the multi-target bounces, you can increase that to 12, and the mysterias before bouncing add an additional 3, to 15. The homecoming bounces would be used on a 2xloki 3xmysteria board to refund 5 total fanfares each, meaning 15 additional fanfares.

If I'm right you could theoretically stack mysteria's fanfare up to +30 spell damage

Emberfire
Emberfire

Fallen Angel her or execute the amu...wait, is there even a neutral destroy amulets card anymore or is the new gold literally it?

Techpill
Techpill

just turn 9 double spawn otko bro

King_Martha
King_Martha

that 3pp axe guy with the 7pp enhance

Lunatick
Lunatick

That card is actually unplayable against Haven though.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Why aren't you bullying dragons with mass-Zeus shadow?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Because I only have 1 Zeus.

SniperWish
SniperWish

A lot of cards that destroy amulets aren't good against haven in general.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I prefer mass-zeus rune with ginger and illusionists

StonedTime
StonedTime

Oh right. I don't know why they didn't just make him a full on execute with no stat boost if you're paying 7PP.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

even in reanimator decks there's no reason to use him over zeus

cum2soon
cum2soon

Plus you can't even use him with Caller since it'll be a coin flip which one you get back. I'm pretty sure he's destined for the vial bin with mailman and minthe

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Entitled Shadow cunt. You're bullying everyone.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Minthe still has potential until she rotates out.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Dumb Shadowniggers. He deals face damage when destroyed.

Illusionz
Illusionz

mid shadow is broken so all shadow must be bad
i bet you get mad about PDK dragon and control dirt too

w8t4u
w8t4u

Broken ass, don't start shitting please.

SniperGod
SniperGod

ESL dragoncuck
acknowledging dragon being strong
Fat fucking chance.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Wait, only one guy hates shadowniggers now?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

only one guy hates all shadow decks even if they don't run the typical broken shit like eachtar or aisha

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

i hit gm running that "cheap" dragon list with the 2 canyons, 0 azi, and no dreadqueens and most of my wins were from mirrors against people running burst combos. your average dragon player is so fucking bad that it's almost mind boggling.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Amazing, it's almost as good Earthshock Ogre when you think of it that way.

Flameblow
Flameblow

i hit gm running that "cheap" forestlist with the 2 fairies, 0 jungle, and no elephants and most of my wins were from mirrors against people running burst combos. your average forest player is so fucking bad that it's almost mind boggling.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Just stop spouting this nonsense. You can still use ONE DDC to revive it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

He could be nice in a deck when with twilight when totg rotates out if they work on reanimate more. Also I just realized a lot of the good shadow generates out side of skull ring and prince are going to be gone with totg.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Prince is also gone in TotG and Skull Ring only gives you a net of two shadows.

Illusionz
Illusionz

i hit gm running that "cheap" shadowlist with the 2 thanes, 0 eachtar, and no aishas and most of my wins were from mirrors against people running burst combos. your average shadow player is so fucking bad that it's almost mind boggling.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I don't think it's really a reanimate target, I can't see how you plan on winning by reanimating a delayed 4 face damage over and over. It's support for Twilight Queen, since she actually makes it dangerous.

likme
likme

I meant skeleton prince.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

He's really only good because of the whole mid-shadow package supporting him. He's a pretty meh play without Eachtar or Thane follow-up.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

crystalia lily
6pp turn an enemy into a 1/1
mutagenic bolt
6pp turn all enemy followers into 1/1s and deal 2-5 damage to their leader

Firespawn
Firespawn

6pp
You mean 1pp.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Yeah, it's a Rune card, so Muta Bolt usually only costs 1 to play.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I don't know why they didn't just make him a neutral Emeralda
Gee I wonder

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

He'd have a 2/3 body and no Storm option, I don't see how that's vaguely on the same level as Emeralda.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Well a 4/3 with no Storm, and cost 1 more mana.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Lily has a body, and can be played as a vanilla 2pp 2/2. Mutabolt can be a brick or a dead card outright if you're behind. They are also used for completely different reasons (most of the time) in completely different decks.

Techpill
Techpill

burn rune
behind

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Yeah Themis can be a brick sometimes too.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Emeralda is good because she's an Execution on a stick, the storm is just the cherry on top (courtesy of whatever drug WD's designers were on).

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

good post
you should also mention sv has a significantly lower barrier to entry and can actually be played for free without being forced to either grind for several months or shell out money

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Yes, that's why you don't play Themis in an aggro deck.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Rune will always get away with bullshit cards, get over it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'd play a one-sided 1pp Themis in an aggro deck though.

SniperWish
SniperWish

without being forced to either grind for several months or shell out money

5mileys
5mileys

And blood and shadow doesn't? Fuck you.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Indeed, I have a BETTER collection in Shadowverse just doing the story modes, a dozen free arena runs, daily quests, and a few spikes of ranked play.
Than I do in Hearthstone, which I got in the beta and, while I have taken breaks from it, there were also long periods of time I kept up on quests and such. But this is from BETA til the present in HS.

It's a massive difference in entry barrier, I got lots of stuff but I also have more things I still want to get and build up to (like Zodiac, Nacht, Jorm deck and the last 2 Heavenly Knights for Wallet Haven)

Emberfire
Emberfire

rune bricking
Oh here we go again with the elegant design meme.

Evilember
Evilember

I wonder who is behind this post

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Someone who plays both Rune and Forest, and thus can compare both cards more fairly than someone who plays neither.

farquit
farquit

Shadow also does but blood got nerfed pretty hard.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

blood
Diabolic drain and revelation removed
ded

SniperWish
SniperWish

Please direct your complaints exclusively to the three most played classes in rotation, everything else is irrelevant.

MPmaster
MPmaster

After insulting every single player in SV for not dealing with them sooner. Yes, rotation killed it for good.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

You mean DD and Blood Wolf. Cblood was quite clearly doomed after Standard rotated, but some had hope Vengeance might still work.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Dragon, rune and shadow has been insulting shadowverse players ever since forever and they still haven't done anything significant to them. It's just how the game is.

Illusionz
Illusionz

mfw -1/1 carabossa
T-Totally fixed g-guys!

takes2long
takes2long

Conjure Golem or Golem Assault in Daria nowadays?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Dragon
since forever
haven't done anything significant
Stopped reading there. Not because of Dragon but due to everything else. Go suck a cock, netdeck-san.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I prefer Conjure Golem because it works well with mysterian circle.

Lunatick
Lunatick

he is still mad about 50% winrate Shadow
How do you do it? How can one be so assblasted?

Techpill
Techpill

sup ESL dragoncuck. Awake already?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

That's an underestimate and you know it. Any deck that gets flooded with idiotic bandwagoners will decrease in winrate, specially when everyone and their grandmother are actively teching against it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Oz
now only reduce the cost of the spells she draws and reduce them to 2PP instead of 1PP

Illusionist
2/1 stat

Ceres
3/2 stat

Thane
Fanfare: necromancy(8): summon 2 wights, gain last word: put a wight king into your hand

Eachtar
only the zombie he summons has rush, no more +2/+0

Khawy
destroy a random enemy follower instead of the one with the highest attack

Aisha
necromancy effect cost 20 shadows

Salamander's breath
remove enhance

Dread Sea's Queen
19PP, cost 1PP less for each card in your hand, including this card

Temple's summit
is not a 1/1 token instead of an amulet

Israfil
8/8->7/8, effect does not damage face anymore

Master Mage Levi
now deals 2 damage instead of 3 (both normal fanfare and earth rite

Elephant King
effect now sets it's attack and defense equal to the number of cards in your hand + 1.

Dragon's Fervor
only draws one card and doesn't heal

Aiela
remove the evo effect

eGremlin
eGremlin

not even the highest played craft at the moment
flooded with idiotic bandwagoners
How does that make any sense? Are you high or something dude?

DeathDog
DeathDog

literally can get 100% winrate if they chose to
only """50%""" winrate

WebTool
WebTool

b-b-b-bb-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bb-b-b-b-b-but shadowniggers!

massdebater
massdebater

It was the most played deck during the first week of the month, and it's barely behind dirt right now.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

we negros also brick you know?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Negros ALWAYS get perfect curves

SniperGod
SniperGod

nerf ceres btw

Playboyize
Playboyize

This but unironically

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

i-it's most played first week!
during the week when everyone was testing things out while some are waiting for netdecks or just wanted a deck to do Chest event
You will just argue it out of your ass because how of the PTSD Shadow gave you in ToG

Firespawn
Firespawn

How the fuck can anyone recommend rotation Neutral Blood with a straight face? Everything about this deck feels so bad and there's just enough Blood cards in the deck that Phantom Cat can never be counted on for even 2.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Mask/Belph/Moon/Sneak/Emeralda is pure cancer in rotation and nobody says a thing. Maelstrom come off on turn fucking 8 too.

TreeEater
TreeEater

The only time I lost to it was from a triple Claw on turn 6 with them topdecking one. Definitely saltiest game of the momtn

Firespawn
Firespawn

Everyone were hyping up Shadow way before the expansion release, it's obvious that a lot of people jumped right into it BECAUSE they needed something to get free wins with. By arguing that bandwagoners didn't affect its winrate negatively you're just saying that the deck is so brainless that everyone can pilot it properly right off the bat.
Nice victim complex though.

likme
likme

Maelstrom

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

You live in a timeline where people are unironically complaining about sneks

Playboyize
Playboyize

Would you rather a board full of 4x 5/5 or that?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

a craft that can no longer stop you from slapping its face down to 0
pure cancer
How do you do it?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

aggro in rotation

5mileys
5mileys

Snakes require setup and get literally no value if the enemy plays bahamut

Spawn will at least nuke for 5 if removed, and can OTK with arriet anyway. It can also take advantage of board locking much more easily

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

burn rune
aggro forest
summit temple
daria
You will say they don't count because they are not "aggro" based on your complicated semantics.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

except for maybe forest these are midrange / highroll decks

viagrandad
viagrandad

Midrange and burn can easily kill early now that you lack proper recovery, and dragon can easily out-control your lategame meme shit

There's a reason nobody plays it

Bidwell
Bidwell

/svg/ actually getting baited by fucking sneks
You faggots will literally bite any classwars post anyone puts down, no matter how blatant. Nerf Aina BTW.

Snarelure
Snarelure

KMR I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

And what can blood do against those in rotation? I hope you don't suggest Archdemon or similar shit

eGremlin
eGremlin

omg I didnt instantly win after dropping bahamut what do

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I-I was merely pretending, haha!

Inmate
Inmate

shadow blood shadow blood shadow blood
a lots of friends! :D

SniperWish
SniperWish

This is what good game design looks like, shadowbabs

Maybe if you upped your game you wouldn't have the same stale meta for 4 expansions straight

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

play 2PP give your opponent a Zeus/Spawn/Bahamut
Nice

Emberfire
Emberfire

Let your opponent drop follower for free

LMAO what's the point of this shit card???

Snarelure
Snarelure

overstatted shit with no real drawbacks
irmao

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Spawn is a much more reliable finisher than any other blood lego.
non interactive™
guaranteed damage
arrietSpawn
banderSpawn
doubleSpawn
vassagoSpawn

Not even prenerf Baphomet made snakes good

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

free 13/13
free 5/10 bane
free 8/8 invincible big guy
b-but it's good against aggro!
oh I am laughing

happy_sad
happy_sad

Fuck over strong fanfare.

RumChicken
RumChicken

I thought blizz learned their lesson about this kind of shit effect after the naxxramas expansion who had that overstatted taunt guy who summoned a random minion for your opponent from his deck as a deathrattle. Could lose the game instantly if unlucky enough.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

hearthstone has very good removal for all the classes. That card is used to kill combo piece most of the time.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Dirty Rat + Lurching + Demon Eater

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Trade

idontknow
idontknow

Where can I watch some high level nip haven streamers? Twitch isn't helping.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Openrec.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Youtube.

FastChef
FastChef

people still complaining about Aegis
this can't be real

MPmaster
MPmaster

live.shadowlog.com

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

really bad card design
is in the highest winrate p2w deck
puts a time limit on every game unless you run a shitty card that's worthless in every other matchup
Aegis is one of the worst things to happen to shadowverse

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Can't you bane him?

Skullbone
Skullbone

twitch

Firespawn
Firespawn

People are also complaining about canyon. Duh.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

If you Moonman him, Haven can't do shit about him without Elana. It's just 9pp Magic Missile, that is if you don't have ward

Methnerd
Methnerd

I know. I just figured it be worth checking prior to asking, just so we could get it out of the way

hairygrape
hairygrape

Yeah just run this specific card that's utter garbage in literally every single other matchup, great game design really

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

open 4 packs
get 3 legendaries and Exella
this game is alright sometimes i guess

Flameblow
Flameblow

complain when you don't have a counter
complain when you have a counter

Methshot
Methshot

Should followers be allowed to attack amulets? (More specifically non-countdown amulets?) Maybe give amulets their own defenses, there's too few card effects that destroy enemy amulets.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Not really it's very useful against big followers

Methnerd
Methnerd

How to win Shadowverse 2018
3 saha
3 israfil
3 zeus
3 bahamut
???
profit
Even fucking shadow is dropping Echtar and Thane to do this shit now. What went wrong?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

complaining about Aegis putting the game on a timer
Of fucking course you would, all the other actual hard wincons are gone so now you have nothing else to bitch about. There's literally no pleasing you retards until nothing resembling a wincon exists, just endless fighting for board control until someone runs out of cards in their deck. If Aegis is too much for you then you should unironically quit the game, because with the way the rotation meta currently is, odds are high that the expac in March is gonna include some hard wincons so that the average length of a match goes back to what the devs intended it to be.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

(Neutral) legendaries should be cards with complex and unique effects, but should not be highly costed or have effects that singlehandedly change the state of the game.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Where are the emergency dragon nerfs, seriously? It doesn't matter if they go first or second, it doesn't matter if it's early or late game, they can answer everything and do absolutely everything with no weaknesses

Is it just because it's the pet class?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Should followers be allowed to attack amulets?
Then there would be no point of an amulet.

takes2long
takes2long

no but more cards that can destroy followers should also be able to destroy amulets, like emeralda can

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

They already nerfed dragon, several times.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

t. runebab

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

No, dont nerf dragon. What we need to nerf is all the neutral cancer right now.
Bahamut -> cannot attack enemy leader
Israfil -> remove the heal
Saha -> cost 9pp
Zeus -> Rush instead of Storm

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Wow no kidding, just like every other class except portal
Almost as if they had multiple updates over a year and a half

idontknow
idontknow

i don't why yall refused to insert some counter cards in your hand like fallen for grace is fucking great. and then still screaming like this shit has no counter, print counter seriously

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Daily reminder veekyforums.com/thread/202059896/video-games

w8t4u
w8t4u

breath of the salamander's enhance now also destroys one of your PP orbs
Class is fixed

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

one
Need to destroy 2

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Burial rite literally has no counter.

hairygrape
hairygrape

cannot attack enemy leader
What would be the point of Bahamut then?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Stop giving it attention.

King_Martha
King_Martha

No not Saha you fucks

TreeEater
TreeEater

facebook
feeding shitposting
Hm

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

remove the heal
How about no

Techpill
Techpill

Dragon players are the nerf to to Dragon. Just look at all those tempo scythers they drop on open boards, shits unreal.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

If you familiar with it so much why don't you go back you facebook boi

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Clear the board and trade favorably in the future?
Kill yourself dragoncuck, Israfil heal is OP and you know it.

Techpill
Techpill

play snow white
board secured until turn 6

Supergrass
Supergrass

Scum. Wait, can kids like you be called scum?

Lunatick
Lunatick

dragoncuck
Stop assuming, many craft needed heal, if anything they should remove her 2 face damage

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Israfil heal is OP
It would be a 9pp do nothing if it weren't for the heal. How about you fuck off, netdecker?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Bahamut now discards your hand
Fixed

eGremlin
eGremlin

It would be a 9pp do nothing if it weren't for the heal
Exactly, it needs to be a 9pp do nothing without an evo point.
Put heal on other cards.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

i can't identify filenames

RumChicken
RumChicken

She doesn't need such a powerful heal with such a large body and heavy cleave. There should be some risk to running her in the saha package to begin with, not the current ludicrous powerhouse plus tip.

It was reasonable back when the meta was faster, but in rotation it has absolutely no place.

netdecker
Feel free to post your original homebrew lmao

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What about Odile?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Her heal should stay, everything else need to be fixed

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Quality broken english as always, dragonnigger third worlders

happy_sad
happy_sad

lmao

wanting Israfil fanfare and effect to be nerf
dragonniger

farquit
farquit

Nice, uh, argument.
That totally addresses my argument. Not an embarrassing cop-out at all

I'll just take that as admitting defeat

hairygrape
hairygrape

call some healthycraters broken english third worlders
post in broken english
dragonnigger
Where did you come from? Discord, right? Just go back, spoonfeed underage.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Kill yourself already, 14 year old vampy avatarfag. Put that shit back on.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Well again I've said it before I don't play dragon that much. There's not much heal esp in rotation so many crafts rely on her. Anyway her stats and the face damage is a bit too much, I can agree with that

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

This is the posterbase you have, /svg/

Why can't you have decent white posters like /hsg/, instead of SEA monkeys and peruvians?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Oh the irony

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Sahaquiel is a mistake. Prove me wrong.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Fuck off already

whereismyname
whereismyname

Will you never learn fucking english? Holy fucking god.

Supergrass
Supergrass

What if Sahaquiel's effect worked like Illusionist's?

Methshot
Methshot

nerf sibyl btw

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

sv.bagoum.com/voice/e/vo_103041020_2.mp3
holy shit this sounds really bad

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

e

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

79091 may someone help me for private win?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

That's a buff when they play Zeus.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

thanks

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

you're just bitter and got nothing else to say

idontknow
idontknow

Privileged tier 0 netdeck kiddos.

massdebater
massdebater

Goodnight /svg/

idontknow
idontknow

Have Elephant and all but was curious about an Aggro Forest deck for faster dailies
I don't like roaches
Anyone got something for me?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

YO

Emberburn
Emberburn

Just Elf Song

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Emergency nerfs on the 23rd, announcement on the 22nd:
shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=516

massdebater
massdebater

Dunno about the Zeus but people don't like your little greedy aggro flood so they take what options they can give to smack it down in the midgame.

I mean really
People think THIS needs nerfs over Rune Dragon and Shadow cancer?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Thanks, KMR. Perhaps I'll watch the Premier Cup now.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Probably fixing Aria for the Premier Cup

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

meta isn't even bad in rotation compared to what we've had in ToG, SFL, and WD
emergency nerfs
I don't think it's for that. Probably the alice bug.

Evilember
Evilember

Might as well push the balance changes with it instead of just patching again 5 days later.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

reading comprehension
They want to fix the game before the big tourneys happen.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

most likely alice bug, they promised to ban for abusing it

StonedTime
StonedTime

Why does nobody play this? You can evolve it to be extra annoying against shit like burn rune or mid shadow. You can play it against dragon to stop them from storming your face + draw extra options to kill their bullshit. And it's a decent cheap option to protect your other followers.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

It's much worse Singer.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Actually my mistake, this happens after the Premier Cup takes place. The closest Japanese event that takes place is the Japanese RAGE preliminaries in February. I'm unsure of the Western tournament schedule.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I run both.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Nerfs?
twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/953870466350895105

MPmaster
MPmaster

It's okay in Rune if you run it with Illusionist.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

tfw fall for the Elephant meme
Literally a gimped slow roach and double the times more dependant on going first, and it's the most telegraphic deck, playing around it for the opponent it's easy as fuck

whereismyname
whereismyname

fixes for the draw bug?

StonedTime
StonedTime

19804 need a win please

farquit
farquit

thanks

hairygrape
hairygrape

this game is still pretty bad

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

card adjustments
YOUNG LEVI IS GETTING NERFED BOYS

5mileys
5mileys

It's a pity it got discovered too early. Imagine a streamed match where the stars aligned and some dude buried Alice in the tournament when losing. Shit would be so cash

girlDog
girlDog

hit her down to 3 defense
substitution or blackened
while pureheart still throws a card at you
4PP do nothing is just too much.

girlDog
girlDog

Helpful as usual

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Newbie here, who wants a free private match win? 35875

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Literally elf song bramble dumb cat water fairy goblin iguana autofill. Is it that hard to think up one?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yes

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I think they're just gonna fix the Alice Burial Rite bug and little else.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

nerf fucking israfil please.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Thanks

Emberfire
Emberfire

Stay on redditcord.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

twitter.com/shadowverse_jp/status/953823468797100033
not having dark jeanne
Somewhat disappointed

cum2soon
cum2soon

h-heal is cheating!
Kill yourself.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Is this fine?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Maybe pureheart instead of Badb, but yeah, something like that. Water Fairy into Weedman is as disgusting as aggro sword

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

le aggro should never be viable
fuck off back to /hsg/

farquit
farquit

if you play adelle the dragon maiden and you have no other followers on the board, will she gain bane?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Diabolus Psema seems pretty neat, he actually punishes your opponent for putting you in vengeance. Plus you can use blood drinker to get some fat drains. Why isn't he seeing play? People just afraid to play blood in this meta?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

bane
No.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

turn 9
punish
Then they play Aegis

farquit
farquit

Because spawn is better.

askme
askme

a 9pp is killing aggro
If it's really aggro it won't even give a chance to play it.
Why so mad, netdecker? Just going face is not giving you free wins tonight?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

oh you're that faggot, nevermind don't reply to me again

cum2soon
cum2soon

i like fairy whisperer in the two drop slot over leafman or rayne it really helps with elf song and fairy driver turns
i also like kitten over goblin or spring green mainly because weedman only boosts forest followers
3x ipiria too

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Not him but dragon literally has the tools with ramp and heal to survive aggro. Although I think heal is not the problem of the card but the stats.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Israfil is never an issue. It is all due to her 7PP lesbo sister. Once she leaves the meta for good, you will hardly see that 9PP being played.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

If there's so little pressure that they can play Aegis without a problem, you've already lost.

Better at what? They're completely different.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Reminds me when people call her a shit back in RoB. Karma is slow and effective.

idontknow
idontknow

Psema is just a bad card because you can only play him on turn 9 at the earliest. Revelation and Drain work because you reduce instead of recover PP

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

It took a solid month for people to realize how good Sahaquiel was. I still remember people on /svg/ saying that the card was vial-tier. I wonder how many anons fell for it.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

So any good suggestion to nerf the neutral package so that they are still playable?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Whisperer problem is it's a shit 2pp drop by herself
Leafman is both a good 2pp and a 5pp drop, really should be 3x in AggroForest
3 Rayne are too much though, she needs evo and it's pretty much a go second tech

RavySnake
RavySnake

I don't see why that matters, blood has no problems surviving to turn 9 with how much healing they have. Plus bringing them into vengeance is a dangerous game with Emeralda. Having Psema makes it that much more dangerous. His only major flaw is that he just gets fucked over by Bahamut.

TechHater
TechHater

Can only be played on your Xth turn or later. X equals this card's cost.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

saha
the follower that you play with it returns to your deck
israfil
-1 -1, cant hit face anymore
bahamut
can't attack leader
zeus
rush
there, fixed game

SniperWish
SniperWish

rotation
Literally how?

unlimited
Literally how?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

In Unlimited they have some of the strongest healing
In Rotation they have meme heals

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

yea it's not good on two but the deck is running multiple cards that need at least two cards played so i think it's an important three of

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

literally aggro and burn fag complaining about isra heal

Techpill
Techpill

How what? How do you survive to turn 9? It's pretty damn easy, blood has some of the best healing in the game. Wardrobe raider, scarlet sabreur, terror demon, fanged serpent, etc. Burn rune will actually kill themselves, I've survived triple Oz before.

happy_sad
happy_sad

You mean in unlimited you get roached from 20
You mean zero fuck heal unless you count on pigs and Sabreur

I haven't lost a single match to Rotation CBlood.

likme
likme

Because nobody knows how to play it after the cards were rotated. They don't actually know how to manage boards, they're used to solving their fuck-ups with an 8 damage nuke.

TechHater
TechHater

Terror demon exists and is good.

How do you deal with a Daria board flood as Blood in rotation?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

None except for Bahamut banish all cards in your hand

SniperGod
SniperGod

Do tell me how you are going to stop your opponent from hitting your face down to 0 when there is 0 consequence in putting you in vengeance before turn 7. Even Esmeralda cannot carry when your opponent has a board of defense above 4.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Archdemon

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

3 damage killing oglers/chimeras
That's a nice one.

Terror Demon
Never see him on ladder.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Wardrobe does a nice job of cleaning up early followers and smacking the big ones that follow. Sabreur makes it dangerous for them to put up anything too fat, and Archdemon / Matriarch clean up stragglers. Then terror demon helps you recover the health you inevitably lost.

farquit
farquit

oglers, chimeras and daria are still alive
an evolve on a blade mage lets it live too
It's shit

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Because it's a weaker rightenous and CBlood in rotation is just bad
Not like in Roachmited is any good now

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

How the fuck would they do that? Do you think I just don't play cards up until then? My deck has fucking 14 heals and 7 wards.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

it's a weaker rightenous
Not having a condition attached makes it better in certain situations

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Insect Lord is so powerful bros

viagrandad
viagrandad

heal 2 defense at average while sometimes requires you to commit a turn early on and most don't remove a threat at the same time
Blood in rotation is just horrible. Do you really expect you will be able to play that 9PP manlet?

Booteefool
Booteefool

most don't remove a threat at the same time
I don't think we're talking about the same game

massdebater
massdebater

Why don't you list out your heals in rotation? Better yet, post up your good results piloting CBlood in ranked.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Please concede to me once. If you need concede yourself just emote something apart from greetings to me and I'll gladly return the favor.

69793

happy_sad
happy_sad

Nice try but I'm not spoonfeeding you. Go play your shitty copypasted decks.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Thank you a lot, Roland!

Booteefool
Booteefool

I can tell you he has atleast 3 Israfil 2-3 pigs 3 terror demon 3 bloodrinker brand used on 5+ of his own bodies for suicide drain 3 Fanged Sneks and 2-3 Zeus atleast

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

At least you put some effort with your theorycraft.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Alright, /svg/.

What's the best Runecraft deck I can make right now in Rotation?

I have some of the Daria and some of the Earth Rune Burn (most of both).

Show me what's the most fun I can have while making sure my opponent has ZERO fun.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

So a non-dragon dragon deck. I did hear claims about desert rider being good once you include her in midshadow too.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Dirt isn't fun to play, but your opponent will hate playing against it. Same with daria except it's actually fun to play.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Post your take on Daria build.

I feel like the one I use is clunky to shit.

RumChicken
RumChicken

baiting cblood players into thinking their 43% winrate craft isn't pure garbo
pretty entertaining to read

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

sv.bagoum.com/db/7ZR
I had piercing runes and concen, but I want to avoid using 3+ cost spells since I just want to spellboost stuff quickly. Lou is also good for consistency.

TreeEater
TreeEater

i'm too terrible to play cblood without revelation spam

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

who /memedeck/ here?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Oops, that deck has 39 cards, the last one is a third mammoth. Forgot to put that in.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

You that guy I played with using Barbosa?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Nope. I got one or two of them but I've never been good with him.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Hello, nurse. I could really use some chocolate milk.

Inmate
Inmate

Snek is pretty meme but fun, dick dominator is doomsday machine if you manage keep board for trades

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

New channeru when? Asking for a friend.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

What's with this deck? It feels so shit to play and I can't even beat Nexus in Portal's story because it just doesn't seem to work. On ladder it gets shit on by everything, especially summit Haven. I took Hamelin out and one Acceleratium for Metaproduction and Hakrabi to help with the card draw but it still feels inconsistent as fuck. I mulligan for Deus but even getting her in the opening hand, it feels almost like a death sentence to drop her turn 6 against most other decks. I just feel like I'm filling my deck with artifacts for the first turns, lose board because I can't draw useful shit and then just curl up and die. I had Spinaria x3 before I realized how utterly worthless she is to drop on turn 5 especially, and using evo points on her makes her marginally more useful but fucks me up in the long run. What's the secret behind making Portal work in any way? How can I improve this useless deck?

Emberburn
Emberburn

I gave it a go, it's a lot more consistent then the variant I came up with, thank you so much user.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I forgot to actually post the deck

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

cannot beat single campaign with a constructed deck
You're pretending to be bad, right?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Portal is inconsistent no matter how you build it.
This is what gets me through my dailies.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I don't think you should be ever hard mulligan for Deus.
You still rely heavily on early game. Bricking yourself for the sake of turn 6 draw engine is counterproductive.

Nojokur
Nojokur

make aegis deck because it looks fun
lose to every match
I fell for the haven meme.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Is this your first time being a netdecking bandwagoner?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

make aegis deck and not DANZAI deck
Big mistake for not enjoying 7/7 turtles.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

post them

Also I need more deck ideas for shadow. Someone give me some.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

No.

Methshot
Methshot

Fuck you. I still don't have that 0.03%

TreeEater
TreeEater

Just Themis bro

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

why do dragon players emote when they ''''''outplay'' decks that want to put creatures into play as if it's an incredibly skilled thing they just did

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

There's a bug?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

learn the matchups, it's a reactive deck.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

How'd I do? New player here. What's a fun deck to play?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Animated Badb btw.

Snarelure
Snarelure

not bad_

RumChicken
RumChicken

Other than Oz all of those are shit or only played in meme decks.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

So what do you think is going to get nerfed?

I think it's fine, but I'd bump the enhance cost to 7.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Gobu

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

with or without summit?

Lunatick
Lunatick

Not to well. Oz is good in one deck right now. Jorm and TQ are tried sometimes but without much effect. Python and Wyrm are pretty much useless and Elephant is only good if you have leggo wolfs to draw him for 0.
But in any case as long as you do not care about climbing as fast as possible you can have fun with any deck in lower ranks. And who knows how will meta change once you reach AA

Techpill
Techpill

Without

Snarelure
Snarelure

wyrm god might see some play when saha and baha rotate out or if they nerf dreadqueen combos.

farquit
farquit

There is your problem

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I prefer the non summit version. But it's a lot more threatening with that Genesis-esque storm. Try not to waste your ep , put shit tons of removal and SahaIsra

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I'd like something like this instead
Thane: last words - banish all allied followers that cost 2 or less from the field. Add a wight king to your hand.
Ceres: 0/4 stats. 2/5 evolved.
Eachtar: +1 instead of +2. 3/4 stats, 4/5 evolved.
Temple Summit: Only activates when attacking other followers.
Golem Assault: Summon guardians don't spell boost your cards.
Sahaquiel: Can only summon neutral followers with a cost equal or lesser than your total pp.
Aisha: effect costs 20 shadows, doubles attack instead of having 2 attacks.

Fervor is fine. Oz is fine, just make the 3 damage rites unable to be affected by her.

5mileys
5mileys

Settle down, Brode.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

who would win, 5 gobu or 1 israfil?

Emberburn
Emberburn

3/4 stats, 4/5 evolved.
Golem Assault: Summon guardians don't spell boost your cards.

You don't know how this game works, do you?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Depends, if gobu can sneak attack her they would win. Only one would survive the battle but still

MPmaster
MPmaster

*hungering horde intensifies*

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is opening ~80 packs per expansion can keep me competitive later in the future? I'm busy with real life shit but intend to play this kusoge when shit settle down.

Emberburn
Emberburn

i just opened 40 packs using gold i saved up from before the expansion came out and got 1 legendary. give me a reason to keep playing this shitty game

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Just make sure you have 100k vial so that you can come back any time and still can instantly craft a complete netdeck.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Cute animu waifus

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

you still get about a pack per day if you do scripted solo dailies

RumChicken
RumChicken

Need a concede 33680

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

33860 sorry

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Thanks nep

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

That's not what the word ''waifu'' means, newfriend.

whereismyname
whereismyname

and what does it mean?

Emberfire
Emberfire

And I bet this will still remain unnerfed after this month.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

he doesn't have multiple waifus

WebTool
WebTool

Should I fall for the artifact meme? Spinaria is my waifu.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

but spinaria is a boy

also my phone just tried to replace spinaria with special offers naria, wtf

cum2soon
cum2soon

Saha: Remove all effects from the summon target
Eachtar: 9pp, a finisher as good as he is shouldn't drop so early
Thane: 2/3 stats, Wight king costs 2
Ceres: 1/3. she might as well have "Can't be attacked" because of her clash, she needs to be vulnerable to removal
Aisha: 20 is too much, 15 is fair

Temple is fine until they get a Moonbunny reprint. Golem Assault? Seriously?

MPmaster
MPmaster

None of those are your ''waifu''. That just not how it works, newfag.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Sauce?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

all those shadow nerfs
Are people still stuck in the first week of the expansion?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Has Cygames ever made any statements regarding people who use macros to derank themselves?
Did someone ever get banned for that?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Well I that was just a response, ofcourse other nerfs should happen

Oz: 3/4 and spells are reduced to 2pp
Levi: 3/3 and effect doesn't hit face
Israfil: 6/8 effect doesn't hit face

Clearing board should slow the game down but Levi and Isra shouldn't chip you into lethal while slowing the game to a crawl

Elf Song is busted but I don't know how it should be changed because even slightly tweaking it puts it dumpster range. Canyon of Dragons is busted in Rotation but it's not rampant quite yet so I won't bitch too much. It's going to get out of control though.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Dang. Oh well, I'm new and f2p so I can't have the best cards. Here's my shitty rune deck to start.
shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.6HkyA.6HkyA.6HkyA.6LZ5A.6LZ5A.6LZ5A.68_dc.68_dc.6A8t6.6A8t6.6A8t6.6Dz06.6Dz06.6Dz06.6PPgQ.6PPgQ.6PPgQ.6DwZs.6DwZs.6LbI6.6LbI6.6LbI6.6Dwa0.6Dwa0.6Dwa0.6A9bg.6A9bg.6A9bg.6Hs1I.6Hs1I.6PNja.6PNja.6ABJM.6HpbC.6HpbC.6HpbC.6E0Aw.6E0Aw.6PSc4.6PSc4

Illusionz
Illusionz

I haven't played Rune at all but glancing at your deck I would say go fuck yourself for starting with Rune. Literally the most cancerous deck.
Oh, and the deck looks fine.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Awful changes + didn't even include Queen. C0?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Kyle's dick must've been HUGE

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Because he's a 9pp non-dragon value card in Faceverse.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Is neutral forest in rotation any good?

Inmate
Inmate

If your opponent bricks and you get a perfect curve, yeah it's good.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Stop saying "this meta" you fucking retards. There is two metas now, be more specific.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

You will probably dominate early ranks with this deck.
But don't play just one deck, it's not fun and you won't be able to do dalies. Try out different shit with different crafts while you are still in low ranks.

Techpill
Techpill

So basically not good? I guess i'll hold on to my vials for now. Saha and Baha rotates next anyway.

Firespawn
Firespawn

people afraid to play Blood
Gee, I wonder which one is it?

Methnerd
Methnerd

It's okay. At least it's better than the other forest deck in rotation.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

46091

Concede

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

that's really all this game comes down to

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You again, thanks whale Nacht

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

not even a month after new expansion hit
the speed of the thread slowed to 1 thread per day

I don't want to admit it, but this is really the end of it.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I moved back to playing Granblue Fantasy.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Is it fine if i start to play GBF now? Any tips?

Inmate
Inmate

any tips
Don't start GBF

Skullbone
Skullbone

tfw just finished yesterday to level up all the classes from 110 to 140 except Blood who was already 150 and got over 20 legendary from the packs
No leaders though or DANZAI
tfw wanted to play Aegis
tfw no Snow Whites no Aethers no DANZAI
can't afford eve a snow white
This is the true suffering, atleast i got 2 new Jeanne

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Too much shitposting from discord ghost hunters.

Emberburn
Emberburn

1 thread per day
slow
Are you retarded?

Evilember
Evilember

I thought I was fine with grinding until I tried GBF.

RumChicken
RumChicken

any discussion is derailed into craftwar shitposting
no lewdposting
every second post is reddit or discord baitposting or whatever
Oh no! I could this happen?! I truly wonder.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I'm playing the more balanced card game.

SniperGod
SniperGod

A-At least we're faster than those chumps at /hsg/ right?

girlDog
girlDog

What is the gachaest game out of all the gacha?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

FGO and GBF. I tried GBF when they made this big event with free rolls lately and even by rerolling with these huge amount of free tries it still took me 4/5 accounts before I got a single SSR. Shit is mad. I am glad they do not accept dirty gaijin euros or I might have fell for that scheme.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

That is not much of an accomplishment.

5mileys
5mileys

GBF grinding is much more laid back than other grindy games.
Although the grindiest game I ever played was RuneScape. In RS it can take you months to get a single level whereas in GBF it can take you months to complete a weapon but that's because of AP constraints.

hairygrape
hairygrape

more balanced
lamoa

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Concede please.
97789

farquit
farquit

I would not mind the grind if it made sense. As things stand now I am supposed to leech off others and host raid bosses that are WAY beyond and then call help. I never get to do anything myself of worth.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

if eachtar comes down with a frozen mammoth on the field does the mammoth get rush?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Thanks!

Inmate
Inmate

No.

idontknow
idontknow

literally lost to dshift as aggro blood in unlimited

wtf is that fucking crap

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

*Bwahrs at you*

takes2long
takes2long

It's pretty doable with the right draws, with Chimeras and Destroyers it's possible to make a move that's more like a Daria deck and if stuff sticks on the board for a turn then one raw DShift is enough to end the game early.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Aggro sword before nerf was the only deck that would win, no matter what, vs dshift. Aggro blood can easily lose to early kaleido and angelic snipes.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

he literally managed to stall to turn 8 and then got a double dshift, he went first ofc

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

4 time in a row went second

had to buy premium draws i guess

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Play Swordcraft

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Play best girl craft

Snarelure
Snarelure

5th time and counting

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

just play dragon bro

massdebater
massdebater

Playing afuckingbronzecraft
No

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

play against dragon
removal
removal
removal
removal
saha israfil
saha israfil
saha israfil
Bahamut
Israfil
lol Queen Zeus Dahaka
I fucking hate this fucking broken cheating class so much.

likme
likme

HS world tournament is on
no ESL dragoncuck in sight
no craftwar shitposting
of course

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Unlimited

Soft_member
Soft_member

This isn't /hsg/. Go avatarfag somewhere else.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Any seraph players could help me fix this deck? I dropped curate for frog since the heal was way to late and I'm considering dropping a themis as well for maybe another priestess or pureheart.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Fuck off, non-thinking insect.

SniperGod
SniperGod

i do

the guy was crazy aggressive btw, he could burn my other follower and trade cara but decided to kill that follower and burn face hoping i had no savage wolf

that's also an illustration why -1/-1 was a noticeable nerf, pre nerf i would have lethal with snarling chains too

farquit
farquit

reanimeme shadow with the wallet package
This fucking Saha cunt needs to go asap.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

polluting your 7drops with Saha instead of having unlimited Khawy pulls

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

The main weakness here is too few cards which cutting down countdown. Personally I play 3x Dogma, 3x Healing Prayer, 1x Star Torrent, 3x Sister (costs 3pp 3/2 -1 countdown on fanfare) and even 1x Candelabra of prayers. So in total I have 11 those cards in the deck and you only 7.
You don't need 3x Snow White, cut 1. Instead of Purehearted Singer and Prism Priestess just put 2x Beastcall Aria to etablish board presence. And all you need is removals, they are perfect in your deck, the same as in mine.
I still playing 2 Curatae, because such a significant heal is very important.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Savage wolf literally didn't matter on your screenshot, though, despite the filename.
You had those options:
A. Play second Carabosse for lethal.
B. Play Snarling Chains for lethal.
C. Play Savage Wolf for lethal.

DeathDog
DeathDog

pre nerf i would have lethal with snarling chains too
what is end of turn magic missile
You had lethal post-nerf, too, retard.

iluvmen
iluvmen

play against Vania
bats package with Veight
go for the board knowing he'll be spent if he doesn't hit me enough
16 hp left, board empty, feeling good
suddenly spawn
suddenly badb catha into spawn
morrigana gospel for spawn
Leave it to me to find the weirdest shit.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Brainlet Carabosse fag
Real high iq blood players use Spawn/Psema

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

not only you appearently have trouble with math as the anons who replied to you showed, but leaving you at 2 health was the best thing your opponent could do because it denies claw and blood wolf and evidently he would've surely lost to board presence with only 2 cards, his only hope being drawing a finisher

WebTool
WebTool

literally just banish bro

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

is this bait

MPmaster
MPmaster

Why are you replying to braindeck blood netdeckers? The guy is literally playing unlimited because he's a brainlet.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

what compels you to shitpost this blatantly? isn't the thread dead enough?

Methshot
Methshot

was confident that I would play both formats before the rotation update hit
started playing rotation because it was the new shit
go back to unlimited
promise myself never to go back to unlimited ever

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

What's the top haven netdeck right now?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Don't reply to me, aggro blood braindead.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Probably something like the gameai list, I'm not a fan of aether + fanfare followers, the "old" aegis control haven with judge of retribution is probably better

5mileys
5mileys

well im sleepy

ok, but what if he had one hp more, my point stands

you know, i could argue with it but even if it's a decent move to burn face he still was too greedy, he had to trade carabosse and let my other much less scary follower live, that way he would have had more chance to draw his finisher

takes2long
takes2long

play control blood in unli
get 90% roach matchup

Yeah, nope.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

:)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Seriously, fuck off.

StonedTime
StonedTime

maybe you should stop shitting the general you already made it kind of unpleasant place

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

what

viagrandad
viagrandad

You're a disgrace, child.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Nothing more comfy than highrolling as Daria and watchin some SV.

Except...

Getting even luckier while watching an even better game.

idontknow
idontknow

it's time for you to go back

Supergrass
Supergrass

3 yuriuses felt almost like cheating. Still i think that aggro blood is too weak in unlimited, too many decks tech against it. and It became weaker against any rune deck in general, even against dshift while otk roach have all the tools to prevent early aggression, unless we count bricks. What else do we have? Vengeance is generally stronger so this is also not best matchup. Out of 4 most popular decks the only 1 left is mirror, otk roach is doable but still feels unfavorable because you always need to have certain cards and anything else just let your opponent ward safely or do otk. I was experimenting with usual aggro blood with carabosses and the one with demonic storms.

whereismyname
whereismyname

BASED
A
S
ED

girlDog
girlDog

do dailies
no haven in sight
switch to summit haven
immediately queue into 3 mirror matches
go 2nd all 3 times
instant concede to perfect turn 9 Aegis
don't draw summit even once
For real, fuck this game.
Is there even a point running summit instead of just abusing an uncounterable 10/10?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

You can't get a 7 to 9 damage storm without Summit.

WebTool
WebTool

just naoise, dumbo

TechHater
TechHater

You won't get 7 to 9 damage storm if you don't draw summit

farquit
farquit

shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=300
QUALITY nip programming

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Need a concede : 88113

Evilember
Evilember

I still play the game, but I stopped coming here other than once every a few days because this general is absolute cancer.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

If I participate in the NGE tournament(s), should I bring meme decks or tryhard? I feel like bringing real decks would win me easy vials.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

It was me Shadowbabs.

The author of all your pain.

WebTool
WebTool

no mention of burial Alice.
Working as intended I guess. Shadow has to have a way to at least not auto lose in sahaisraverse

w8t4u
w8t4u

if you are confident with your decks why waste an opportunity?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Burying Alice has a separate news post
shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=514

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You realize where NGE can take you, right?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

cute boy

Evilember
Evilember

they again made nge be their western representative?

cum2soon
cum2soon

We don't know yet, but not reason to think NGE won't be a way to get to the RAGE WGP when every single one of the NA/EU participants last year came from there.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

long and thick dragon dick

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

need a concede
59861

happy_sad
happy_sad

Aiela is really fuckable huh

Booteefool
Booteefool

Haven Tier I
Announce emergency nerfs for next expansion

Can't have haven be tier I for too long

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Imagine being mr. Dragon and bouncing that cute boy on your cock every day.

Evilember
Evilember

Delet this Aiela is not for lewd.

Methshot
Methshot

boy

RumChicken
RumChicken

want to play blood
can only win with rune

Nice game

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

play unlimited

MPmaster
MPmaster

Why are we so fucking dead?

StonedTime
StonedTime

HS world tournament is happening right now my dude

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Im going to play GBF. Wish me luck.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

i think i literally hate everything about this meta.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Didn't know there was a dice roll world tournament and people actually watching it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Because of this

Replying to Discord is also the reason why "we are so fucking dead".

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

twitter.com/morzoph/status/896258039921102848

WebTool
WebTool

He vialed all his Standart and DE cards like a cuck. Serves him right.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I can't even do my dailies because of Shadow, got matched with 4 in a row. Notice how Shadow don't need to use evolve points, they don't need to do anything. It's just not as bad as Bats/Vengeance, which are on the same fucking level to me.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Congrats, /svg/. This is your first 24 hour thread in a long time.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Nooo you can't criticize dragon!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

All 3 lurching with activators in the first 13 cards

He just outlucked you.

WebTool
WebTool

202255056
Ironic shitposting or ironic downplaying on your broken netdeck high horse's still shitposting. It have nothing to do with any craft, blandly shitposting can be detected.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I get bullshit'd by Shadow often enough to make me question if turn 1 skull beast would still be a thing if it hadn't rotated out.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Because shadow players can only go to unranked with their meme 50% wr deck. I am not shadow btw

FastChef
FastChef

Plays garbage deck
Complains about loses to slightly better decks

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Everything shits on neutral forest unless it bricks. What's your point?

TreeEater
TreeEater

putting me at the same level as the redditmod fag
Kill yourself.

whereismyname
whereismyname

What's the matter, your turn 6 Aegis couldn't save you?
If it'd gone even slightly different, I can see you making the same fucking post but gloating about playing BnB and corpses not being able to do anything to you.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Such a meme

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Plays
Inmediatly asumes Eachtar comes next turn and concedes.

I wonder how many times you threw matches due to your own incompetence

Inmate
Inmate

I didn't brick. He killed my BnB by pocking it with skellies and evolved necrossassin. I'm doing forest dailies, I don't main Neutral Forest. I don't have Elephants or Insect Lord to play Control and the new Aggro Forest.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Not him but why would he not give up right there and then? He will never have the board back ever again and the shadownigger does not even need balanced man or Alberta to win.

idontknow
idontknow

Well, they ALWAYS have it, unless it's me who's playing, then I obviously don't. But then my opponent knows it and never concedes anyways.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

all dead cards in hand
no elf twin and B&B T8
Better concede unless hoping opponent dc

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I been here since standard and I pretty much only do dailies and very rarely occasionally try for grandmaster. This is a scrub mentality, but I just dislike fighting ramp mechanics, even though spellboost is gone, oz which isn't as annoying still has powerful ramping capabilities when lucky. I know they won't take out ramp so I play this as a collectible card game instead. (had no problems with gold/vials can get everything f2p)

Snarelure
Snarelure

Aggro forest doesn't need leggos at all and it is way more efficient and fun to play than current Neutral Forest

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Game would be fixed if they sucked it up and just gave the person going second The Coin

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Why not a couple of those elf smiths that give damage and damage immunity

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

ill stop playing when I lose
bad idea

idontknow
idontknow

I hadn't heard of that one.

WebTool
WebTool

That's "go first or concede".dek
Leafman does that job

massdebater
massdebater

Newfags like you are the worst.

hairygrape
hairygrape

C2
/hsg/
eceleb
tournament
twitch

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

You're the newfag circlejerker, dude.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

replying to bait

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

They reply to themselves.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Myself, you should stop replying to me.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Don't reply to him.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How old are you?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Kiddo, why don't you shitpost about your own craft instead of beating some dead horses?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

GBF
'play'
It might as well be an idle clicker game you just throw up in the background when you're doing something else.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

fuck off to discord

Supergrass
Supergrass

why's that silver blade is fun in every build one tries? abomination, mysteria, top heavy burn, they're all a joy to play

cum2soon
cum2soon

Wat

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

anyone got the discord? i wanna see this secret cabal for myself

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Discord just told me to fuck off to Discord. Do you really want to me among literal underages and c/a/suals that even /a/ hates?

WebTool
WebTool

Stop shitposting.

Evilember
Evilember

it's like any other Veeky Forums discord, nobody there talks or cares about the thread while the thread obsesses over it. the situation would be ironic in an elegant way if it didn't generate so much shitposting here, too bad

Supergrass
Supergrass

elegant

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Unlimited aggro Sword
Goes first
Tempo as fuck
Keeps spamming emotes

Why Ungas think they are hot shit with their sesame street deck

Lunatick
Lunatick

Don't lie. There's multiple channels and fakes, and everyone move to another to prevent people from exposing shit from there.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Thanks for saving my ass.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Need a concede for daily, please
66563

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

One win left to finish dailies
Starts giving me the worst matches and brickest hands

Every fucking time KMR I swear

Supergrass
Supergrass

To anyone complaining about combos you people must be insane. OTK roach, OTK genesis-arriet, dshift, Daria(Dorothy), Atomy, white wolf-elephant, Aegis etc, it's all what makes Shadowverse what we know today. There's really nothing more fun than summoning Atomy at turn 3 or filling a board with Oglers turn 5 with Daria. That's how Shadowverse is supposed to be played, not a serious game but super exciting crazy combos that makes this game so epic and unpredictable. I really hope nothing is nerfed this month so the fun with dragon and runecraft continues.

RumChicken
RumChicken

202263350
replay
Seriously, god fuck christ. Just when we think it can't get worse.

Methshot
Methshot

so epic and unpredictable

King_Martha
King_Martha

Speak of Discord and it comes out. What are you guys up to? That's obviously bait.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Wish we had strategic depth like hearthstone
They regularly have minions that actually survive a whole turn and have to incorporate that into strategies. Meanwhile it's rare for us to not completely clear the enemy's whole board each turn

WebTool
WebTool

moves on only because he asked for it
appears to defend Rowan from Isabelle's killing blow
never appeared prior to tell her unless his commander was at risk
she even mentions how he valued his comrades the most

Kyle probably never even gave her the Dick. As all we know, he probably was Rowan's twink.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

replay
So?
Just when we think it can't get worse.
we
Lol, you're such a retard. Every time you post it looks dumber than before.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

We won't touch ramp, mana cheat, or storm, and the game will magically fix itself :)
THIS time we promise!

Supergrass
Supergrass

Stop remaking this general. Let it go for a few months. It's nothing but shitposting at this stage.

WebTool
WebTool

How's your dailies?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

but you are shitposting

Nojokur
Nojokur

How new are you to be impressed with Aggro/Vengeance Blood?
I was experimenting with usual aggro blood with carabosses and the one with demonic storms.
You're experimenting a oldass broken netdeck, something which have been around for years. Stop being such a obnoxious underage.

w8t4u
w8t4u

read Ramp, spellboost and combos are part of the game. If they "fix" the game will lose its identity. Stop playing shadowverse wrong.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Gimme dick

TreeEater
TreeEater

3x desu sex and artifacts

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Fucking retarded.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Puppets are extremely cheap and can cheat out some wins

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You okay buddy?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Are you?

Emberfire
Emberfire

concede to portal cuck 'cause he's unironically taking too long to play out his turns
please don't play this game if you can't think. you're wasting my time.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

need a concede please
32352

cum2soon
cum2soon

Thanks

Inmate
Inmate

fuck u and ur dumb sister

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

its an eachtar lethal episode
Lets face facts, they're not going to nerf Eachtar again. They're gonna slap shadow on the wrist with a thane 7pp -> 8pp and we'll be stuck with another month of shadow

w8t4u
w8t4u

thank you

Evilember
Evilember

He's roping you for wins you moron
He just beat you fair and square

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Nerfs won't do anything to the meta beyond shuffle some WRs and playrates regardless. It's not like there's some new builds that are almost viable but being held back by the ToG/WD era decks. There just isn't anything else to play in rotation. The cards don't exist.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

sister

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

complaining about 50% winrate

Nojokur
Nojokur

Rotation is fucked, but there's some hope for unlimited.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Shadow is only balanced when it has no wincon.

Evilember
Evilember

rune uses rite of exorcism on staircase
Uhhh, ok?
I get he's trying to get daria up but I won the game because of it.

FastChef
FastChef

Is shadow the only deck that wants to go first now?
It just feels like going first can go so wrong in so many ways these days.
Talking about rotation of course.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

They are complaining about shadow again
Have you lads thought about getting good yet?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

go second
Whew! I tried my best

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

she's her girlfriend, dumbo

eGremlin
eGremlin

Bahamut
take half your leaders defense in damage: destroy all followers and amulets on board
banish you hand, destroy all followers and amulets on board
destroy all followers on the board. as long as this follower is in play you cannot play cards from your hand

Which would be the best nerf, honestly I like the last one since it has a lot of "i've screwed myself" situations.

girlDog
girlDog

10pp themis that dies to 3pp removal
mooom nerf pls))) can't spam board))) unga bunga))

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

ramp dragon can't spend extra PP on neutral followers
The game is fixed. Forever.
Imagine having good neutral legos without dragon shitting everything up.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

ESL dragoncuck is actually russian

massdebater
massdebater

GBF is literally clicking simulator.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Its really fucking pathetic how obvious it is that roach held forest together
You can't even aggro anymore because you can't keep up anymore unless you perfect curve

Evilember
Evilember

need a concede pls 85808

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Play Wolf idiot it's top tier

Methshot
Methshot

comes online 2 turns after shadow
Pass

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

You should be beating shadow on board most of the time. It's not an unfavored matchup.

askme
askme

This game is unironically fixed if bahamut has "CAN NOT ATTACK ENEMY LEADER"
What, its not good enough that he destroys everything on entry and then can destroy every follower in the game outside of durandals effect, bane units, aegis and that 13/13 neutral units from satan who's name I don't recall?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Why is Exella so grumpy?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You can only bounce Cassio so many times.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Bounce brambles, not Cassio. And get gud.

Inmate
Inmate

not memeing it up with mangrove
Haha it's useless against thane, thane is the card that beats mangrove every time

idontknow
idontknow

dragoncraft can gain red play point orbs
red orbs replace your regular orbs but you can gain them faster
red orbs can only be used by dragoncraft cards
gaining a red orb makes it so you never gain the normal orb you would have gained
neutral cards cannot be played with red orbs
example: dragon has ramped 3 orbs, and sits at 10pp. He tries to play bahamut but cannot because he only has 7 regular play point orbs and will NEVER gain regular ones since he has filled his bar with red ones

BOOM, dragon unironically balanced.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

)))))))))

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

there's people unironically calling for bahamut nerfs
this fucker literally bricked (played nothing on turn 2 and 3) and yet he was able to spam this exact board three fucking times during his turn 6, turn 8 and turn 9. And he had a 14 damage wind blast on turn 7 too.
I was lucky to draw my ramp and 2 bahamuts, and even the combo cards I needed.
What the fuck would any other class do against this board on turn 6-7? What the fuck would I have done if I wasn't that lucky? Bahamut and this level of board spam are both cancer and an insult to good design, people who want one gone and the other untouched are fucking retards.

Spamalot
Spamalot

make ramp neutral
There.
Since nobody have problems with ramp and it sure it's OK, what can go wrong?
This way we can give a fair T6 Bahamut to everyone and counter rune, right?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

she doesn't like people shitting svg with their craftwar crap

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

her head is too flat

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Subete wa watashi no kotoba no mama.
Rune wins again.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I did it anons!

StonedTime
StonedTime

was able to play the same board 3 times
So he had 6 Ooglers in his deck?

happy_sad
happy_sad

a worse dread that can't even otk and just floods the board to get bahamuted
Whew, you got the stuff!

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

post rank

RumChicken
RumChicken

B2

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Eachtar
7pp 5/6 (slightly understatted)
Always buffs the field +2
Always gives units on the field rush
For paltry 8 shadows (5, considering that Eachtar using 8 will generate 3 once it and its zombie leave the field) it summons 2 zombies
Has multiple options in terms of play depending on how the game is going

Arthur
7pp 2/6 (majorly understatted)
Doesn't buff the field at all
Doesn't give anything to the followers it summons
Always fills board but completely randomly
Has no use being dropped on a board thats half full
Only has 1 use, blindly filling the field with weak followers that may or may not be helpful to you.

I mean...its just kinda shocking isn't it? How favored shit is? Could they have at least given Arthur something like "give all followers summoned this way +0/1"? At least its isn't wiped be by the next turn israfil

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Here.

hairygrape
hairygrape

lmao I just watched the replay and actually his turn 7 board was way less impressive (and not turn 6 as I recalled), but his turn 8 board was just as beefy, anyway that doesn't really change much.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Told you Blood is cancer. Every single poster.

RumChicken
RumChicken

MOOOOOOOOOM I WON A FAVORED MATCHUP

farquit
farquit

win more with my BnB deck when I never pull my BnB
Now hold on, I think I'm onto something of a neutral burn deck here...

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I agree that they were reeeeallly careful with Arthur's design, but he has a significative advantage over eachtar, that is he helps you draw that sweet turn 9 albert

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You don't need to care about drawing turn 9 albert when you can just fill the board with sticky followers then eachtar for lethal on turn 7

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

veekyforums.com/thread/202272583/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/202272583/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/202272583/video-games

Techpill
Techpill

And yet good midshadow lists run 2 Albertas.

WebTool
WebTool

It's not so much that roach held it together, it's more like the 2 fairy tax and understatted everything made it the only option
And they chose to continue to print roach support instead of any other archetype to fiddle with for 5 expansions