If you people spent half as much time on learning how to play against Hanzo and Genji as you do crying about them then you be a much better player.
Anthony Gutierrez
G-gas Garrosh
Josiah Lee
If you were a better player then you'll notice why Hanzo and Genji are OP.
Logan Ross
>quit a f2p game Imagine being this silly
Parker Collins
FEEL THE HATERED OF 2____ YEARS
Nathaniel Reed
(OP) >blizzard releases maiev after i finally stopped playing their trash... i fucking hate my life. I waited two years for her.
Sebastian Martin
>this thread
Lincoln Green
>It is Twenty and Eighteen in TYoOL >People still use “Just stun them :)” to defend Genji and Tracer
Is this HoTS’s answer to “Just buy Pinks :)”?
Christian Ross
I'm trying to see it, and there isn't enough evidence to support that claim.
Eli Garcia
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Jordan Howard
>these heroes are strong but only if they are good Isn't that ideal though?
Adam Campbell
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Aiden Cooper
Well for starts like half the cast literally can’t land a hit on them, let alone actually trade/kill them outside of the Genji/Hanzo making a retarded mistake
Hunter Scott
They do more damage, have more utility and mobility than heroes in the same role, outclassing all of them.
No, is the opposite of balance and leads to using the same 10 guys in every match or lose to equally skilled players.
Colton King
>Year 2018 >People still claim that Tracer and Genji are OP because they don't know how to play against them. I guess that Morales and Chromie are OP as well because you can never punish them.
Jack Taylor
So what's gonna be the best build? Armour reduction/basic attack or full FoK?
Kayden Taylor
The only way to play against either of them is to only ever pick a Blizzard Approved hard counter to them in every game forever.
Like do you think it’s a coincidence that immobile melees like Arthas, Thrall and Leoirc have all basically fallen off the face of the earth?
Gabriel Harris
As mentioned many many times, Genji loses to auto attackers and Guldan. Hanzo loses to divers. Both of them loses to Illidan. Still not seeing any evidence tvat they are OP
Ian Cook
Finally mecha skin price drop, which color is the best for Tyrael ?
Nathan Rivera
>people trading blows with meme blades varian >people trading blows with a stacked butcher is there possibly anything more retarded to do? can't shitters just grasp the idea that kiting them denying them from attacking is better than "1v1 me now m8 i'll rek ya noob"?
Cameron Cruz
Have you been watching HGC? Because Leoric and Arthas sees a lot of play over there. Thrall was never a popular pick and his kit is such that he can deal with Genji and Tracer.
Joshua Green
>Genji loses to auto attackers and Guldan Only if he decides to trade.
>Hanzo loses to divers Only of he decides to overextend of get out of position.
>Both of them loses to Illidan Only if they want to trade with him like retards.
Keywords: "if they".
Evan Long
Naisha memento + AA and armor talent + Huntress orb
Owen Ramirez
Blue and red is kino
Nolan Rivera
AA build. They have OP talents at 13-16.
Jordan Nguyen
Well shit son, in that case everyone is OP because if they know their limits then you will never beat anyone.
Likewise "don't know" is also a reason why you think that they are OP.
Owen Gutierrez
>Well shit son, in that case everyone is OP Except that You keep going in circles. Now the real question: are you legally retarded or, worse, just pretending?
Mason Rogers
>The 1,56% face soon
Aaron Adams
Gundam flavor
Levi Reyes
Dead game, dead thread.
John Martinez
Are you? Because the circle you're going in seems impressive
Cameron Fisher
How do i malthael? i feel so fucking useless all game
John Clark
Not an argument.
Name 3 heroes that are better than Hanzo or Genji in their roles. If you can't that confirms you are a retarded shitposter.
Nathaniel White
soak xp (maybe) enter fights when you have tormented souls rinse and repeat
Leo Gutierrez
You're an executioner, force people out of position and bully them.
He cannot 5v1.
Kevin Turner
wait next week for his rework
Jaxson Gonzalez
He's pretty bad vs squishies so don't pick him unless enemy team has a solid frontline Build for sustain and self heal, he can't burst to save his own life. Take tormented souls and dive into their team spamming Q. Don't take meme rites unless enemy has no way to negate it (they usually can).
Luke Roberts
Ever notice they only get picked when Genji and Hanzo are banned or already on their team?
Brody Fisher
>Picking melee assassins in a post Overwatch world user...
Justin Jackson
shadow edge colour Also how did the skin specific booster mount pass quality standards? It looks like a big fat pile of junk floating around.
Jaxson Sanchez
malthael changes seem like raw nerfs aside from bronze rites buff (lol)
Luke Collins
So this is what an Abathur chest looks like...
Noah Walker
>skin specific booster mount huh?
Ryder Fisher
>comparing HGC to solo queue Tassadar, Abathur and Medivh are pretty broken in HGC. When was the last time they were picked on your team and weren't dead weight?
Gabriel Russell
Well let's see, Genji is someone who wants to dive in and get a kill and dive out. I can't name you 3 like him because there is only one other hero like that in the game and that's li ming. But it's hard to compare the two because they are very different, there are plenty of diverse in the game like Butcher, Illidan and Kerrigan. But again you can't compare them to Genji because their dives works differently
Hanzo is a ranged poker, so 3 heroes as good or better then him are Lunara, Raynor and Cassia. Raynor provides better single target damage while having better heroics, Lunara offers more damage that she can spread on a entire team. >Not an argument And nothing you have said so far has came close as an argument. You just keep on deflecting whatever advice I try to give you. No
Leo Brooks
>another late game-offlane-oneshot-no counterplay assasin >displacement which will hurt everyone except hypermobile heros >cocoon >cant even 1v1 Illidan what the fuck
Brody Cook
When was the last time someone picked a slower melee on your team and was made dead weight by the Genji on their team? Because it happens all the god damned time.
Aiden Powell
Continue being shit then
Luke Smith
she can 1v1 my dick
Alexander Long
>Raynor >better then anyone let alone Hanzo This has better be bait good lord
Carson Rogers
>Looking down on Raynor Continue having fun in unranked then, maybe over there you can find people who buys your bullshit.
Luke Reyes
protect is a fun and balanced mechanic and is in no way overpowered
Daniel Watson
why doesn't it just give 75 armor, that's basically the same fucking thing. is it for EPIC plays where your retard kael pyroblasts a varian or something?
Liam Moore
It's not a nerf it's a buff in functionality Last Rites is now the go to and Tormented Souls is the noob/utility ult since you don't need it to spread your shit anymore. He became a stronger solo laner because of the change, but his single target damage sucks outside of Last Rites. I suspect they will buff momento mori at some point to compensate the trait damage nerf.
Ethan Morris
>He didn't buy them
Must suck being poor
Juan Jenkins
why should i play this over dota
Kevin Powell
>just pick raynor bro >you just keep on deflecting whatever advice I try to give you >pick raynor >advice Thank for confirming the retarded shitposter theory.
Xavier Garcia
you shouldn't, we don't want dotards in our game
Logan Nguyen
Bro based Jimmy puts GENJI, TRACER, chromie and illidong on notice
Ian Jones
Raynor nerfs fucking when Blizzard?
Aiden Carter
>raynor >ever getting chromie within AA range
John Anderson
so wh
Luis Jones
While I agree that Raynor shits on Genji, Hanzo and Tracer i fail to see how he can win against Illidan.
Henry Ramirez
is the cleave really that powerful? or is it just that tormented souls and his trait were nerfed to shit tier? i guess it depends on how big the cleave is
Christian Bailey
...en is the maiev patch?
dumb captcha sending my message too early
Grayson Richardson
Raynor counters a lot of heros but since he is very basic and noob friendly he isn't picked highly. Try hards want a flashy hero that can wipe the backline a la GENJI. Nobody feels incredible auto attacking a team and slowly killing them at range.
Gabriel Moore
I want to help her!
Mason Smith
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Jayden Hernandez
Cleave added a lot to Leoric, should do the same to Malthael.
Blake Allen
Malth is going to be pure shit, anyone that tells you otherwise is going to be trolling or legit retarded
Ryder Hill
I love it, actually. The HoTS TEAM seems to hate it though because they fucking ruined hammer.
Ethan Parker
Better yet make deflect only work on auto attacks
Evan Torres
Faster More fun Less autistic Better characters Bunch of maps NEW hero every month NEW map twice a year Balance patch every week instead of twice a year
Eli Cooper
And make it last 3 times as long?
Sebastian Morgan
It’s not there’s anything wrong with picking a hero that isn’t flashy/a playmaker, the problem is Raynor just doesn’t have enough in his kit to really do anything other then hope the other team doesn’t notice him.
Parker Thomas
>Less autistic
Seeing people go full rage mode in picks never ceases to amaze me
Josiah Robinson
Why is Kerrigan so much fun?
Leo Kelly
He has one of the best tank killing kits in the game
Ethan Sullivan
They killed hammer because she was a better raynor and they wanted her to be more unique. Only as it turns out, pushing all her power into siege mode is bad since you can't safely use it most of the game
Jackson Wood
Because she's a dumb slut that blows people up.
Isaiah Gutierrez
In a game where leoric, tychus and malthael exist?
Daniel Ward
Ray or is just as good as those heroes just is a bit late game. Not sure why you have a hate boner for Jimmy but he is a decent hero. I like first picking him, because people don't really know what to think and almost always grab GENJI.
Jacob Reyes
Except they ruined that too. It takes her FOR FUCKING EVER to kill buildings anymore unless you get the level 1 talent that is useless otherwise (90 second CD for some minor damage buff, the fuck?). And the worst part is, instead of giving her more damage during siege (the extra damage just brings her back where she used to be mobile) they just gave her shit that took the risk away. So more armor. And now every hero and their dog has armor breaking bullshit. Graduating range should have never left 16, she should have gotten a better new ability that wasn't more defense.
God, I could go on a thirty minute rant on how wrong they got it. The idea of the rework itself isn't bad, but every way they could have fucked it up they did.
Landon Lee
>no mecha aba :,(
Andrew Ward
Mecha Tyrone can use bigass jetpacks instead of regular mounts.
Jace Harris
I'm not the guy who hates raynor, but I would agree that I'd rather have greymane or AA zul'jin over raynor, his early game is way too weak the way I see it. He's also more affected by anti AA heroes.
Caleb Sanders
Does Theramore jaina skins change her voice lines? She sounds more angery when I queue as her
Grayson Johnson
well said tbqh
Leo Ramirez
A few of them, but not a full rellacement like dreadlord jaina.
Jack Carter
I want to impregnate mommy Alex during a team fight!
Oliver Bell
>Facing Buther >Pick Relentless Leader And it's gg
Charles Richardson
Mommy wants to impregnate YOU
Hudson Bennett
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al of dat is gonna happn in the: "Theh misdrivon misadventers of misondorstood nursehorsemen form da horsenors-wehst through the Naxos 2: Teh semenkekquel"
Jackson Smith
Yes it does.
Samuel Powell
DAILY REMINDER THAT 27.07.2017 WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED AS A DARK DAY IN ORCISH HISTORY.
Blizzard really fucked up with Garrosh's representation in Heroes of the Storm. His abilities and role do not fit his character fantasy in any way. His kit should have been for another character.
Yes, he is fun to play. But he should have been a bruiser, like Artanis, but with burst and less focus on defense and with an ability to force 1v1.
>what Blizzard devs did Hey guys we plan to release Garrosh somewhere in summer 2017 Fast forward summer 2017 Alright guys just attach some existing kit to Garrosh and release him. And dont forget to make a legendary skin + bike with a bunch of tints