are you a chloe player? usually by that rank you have some semblance of fundamentals
Adrian Sullivan
I am. I do have a decent sense of fundamentals, but I don't know I am doing wrong. I know how to frame punish, while rising punish, all that jazz. But im not sure what i try to improve. I barely duck high strings and I rarely sidestep. Is it my matchup knowledge that is poor?
Michael Young
matchup knowledge becomes pretty crucial at the higher ranks
Austin Ward
>I feel stuck and don't know how to improve. >Should I learn how to sidestep more,duck punish,matchups, or learn to KBDC? All of those things and proper poking. How much do you abuse Chloe's scrub killer moves? In my experience Chloe players have bad neutral games because she doesn't have any particularly good neutral tools.
>I didn't realize this but don't you use it as a punisher anyway so it wouldn't get block punished? A good d/f2 can be thrown out with little risk on block and used for assured whiff punish combos. Hers is only good as a whiff punish unless you have meter.
You mean the console version which added 6 more frames of lag on release than they were used to AND brought balance changes? And the only Americans who did well were the top players who actually traveled to Japan to play in arcades. The only American player currently with a decent record against Asians is Naps and he was living in Japan for like 9 months from 2016-2017.
Aiden Clark
>learn to KBDC also do this >the meme you can get to high ranks with chloe without having to kbdc is true
Jose Rogers
Correct. Then they fell off. Remember, they had 2 years of playing the game. We are approaching 7 months. Or something of that sort. I'm parroting what was told to me, I dont see where these guys should be better at, just that apparently the should.
Jackson Price
My neutral game indeed terrible, I'm not sure how to approach it. I feel like i do df+1 1,2 just out of the blue because it gives some pressure, but other than that I have no idea what to do.
I abuse the scrub killer movers a lot. Her uf+3 and her rolling stance into big damage. But most opponents will learn to not press button/be patient during the roll after 2 matches and i'm not sure how to mix it up.
Thanks for the response.
William Parker
Players like Saint, JDCR, GoAttack, Knee, Chanel, and so many other top level Koreans only flaws range in they play their characters at like 90% efficiency instead of 100% perfect play. None of these people have fallen off and once they adapted to the console version they became more dominant (they were still dominant on console release just the gap closed some). I don't know why you are basing things off what someone told you or who this person is because they sound like the type of idiot who goes "Well JDCR won Evo but he's not THAT good." Sounds like he's just demeaning the accomplishments of others by setting unrealistically high expectations of them.
Julian Bennett
I want Chanel to dominate major tournaments in the future. He is my favorite tekken player.
Jaxon Robinson
He's cool.
Juan Torres
Same but only if he plays Eliza.
Dylan Taylor
You are higher rank than I am so take what I say with a grain of salt but you may have a slightly inflated rank by abusing online strategies. You definitely may be lacking strong fundamentals due to Chloe having weak fundamental tools and using scrub killer moves. I personally would recommend learning poking with Kazumi or Jack or Shaheen for a month to get your fundamentals and grasp proper movement then go back to who you enjoy playing. You can do this with Chloe but I don't know her anywhere near enough to guide you with specifics.
Good luck friend.
Kevin Richardson
Probably. Or it could just be me failing to ask him for examples on the topic when brought up. He's played those people and I havent, so I cant exactly formulate an opinion on the subject with out personal experience.
Connor Thomas
I only play Lili, Leo and Eliza and everyone of theirs d/f2 is punishable on block (actually i'm not sure about Eliza because she needs to do d/f2,3 for her launcher)
Michael Rogers
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Gavin Jackson
I like his Alisa better because I'm not really a sucker for 2d characters. Eliza has a cool design but I dispise the way she plays.
Angel Murphy
A man of culture.
Chase Bell
I want it to be Saints year. I not only love how he plays the game but he's my role model as a Jack player. Last year he kept getting so close to winning but ended to second, this is gonna be his year.
Eli Collins
I'd like it to be no-one's year but everyone being pretty equal in preformance. It'd generate the most hype for sure.
Levi Baker
reminder that chanel is literally a shaman
James Carter
Yeah but I mainly just want him to win more than anyone else and win Evo and/or TWT Finals. I hope Rox and other Koreans can travel more so we don't get the Fox boys smashing the West again.
Also if it were up to me I would give Asia 10 slots or separate Korea and Japan into their own regions. I didn't like the finals having so many frauds while someone like Chanel couldn't go.
Jacob Long
And also a showman. Chanel does it all.
Nathan Davis
>Knee and Chanel have been playing Tekken non-stop >JDCR has been wasting time on street fighter
the results of evo japan make perfect sense if you think about it
Nicholas Barnes
As well
Carson Miller
Yeah giving asia 10 slots sounds fair enough. Given that 2 countries provide litteraly all the top players for this game it makes no sense that someone like Chanel couldn't go while frauds like P.Ling and Super Akouma got to go.
Jaxon Smith
JDCR got lazy. Hopefully him getting his ass kicked inspires him to try harder next time.
Alisa cute and all but her head falling off turns me off of her character completely, I like her moves but I wish her head stayed on on.
Daniel Miller
Eu or NA?
Noah Garcia
Her head falling off is actually the appealing part imo. It's so silly.
Jacob Moore
maybe JDCR is actually bored of Tekken and winning all the time
Luis Barnes
eu and east coast na dunno if people in here still play so I figured its safer to not split them
Jacob Perry
Alright, I'm up for being bodied.
Andrew Ward
>uses boring characters >gets bored hmm
Benjamin Scott
Eliza is cute don't bully her she is cute and loveable.
Jaxon Smith
Yeah. Maybe he should make the switch back to heihachi.
Robert Phillips
I'd be gay for him if I was gay.
Cooper Clark
>cool
Wew, chanel gesticulates like a 13 year old attention whore and plays the most cancerous characters
Sebastian Smith
You can't bully a bully user
Joseph Flores
I heard people say he's kind of an asshole. Sure doesn't seem like that, though.
Austin Hughes
I'm interested, where'd you hear this?
Joseph Butler
>Untouchable for a while >Starts playing SF >Becomes a jobber Is JDCR the Machaboo of Tekken?
Tyler King
that's because he's a shaman and has the spirit of a 13 year old boy living inside him
Jace Ross
>Chloe players have bad neutral games because she doesn't have any particularly good neutral tools. >ONE TWO ONE TWO ONE TWO >ROLL ROLL ROLL
Ethan Jackson
If that's true it's likely cause people don't like his showmanship. In esports, a lot of Koreans can be humble to the point that they're boring. They walk into an event, stomp on some foreign players, collect they money, and walk out. They act like its a day in the office for them. Chanel is obviously not that kind of player. He's very expressive whether he wins or loses, and that can be off-putting for some players.
Parker Peterson
I still can't believe it. He also makes like 150-250 USD a day from it. I wonder if he actually believes what he's saying or he's just found a good hustle.
William Lewis
Is Claudio's f2,2 the only tailspin move in the game that you can't follow up with anything?
Juan Anderson
Makes sense. Personally I like that in a person but I can see why some koreans would hate his guts for it.
Angel Davis
move the fuck away from the wall then?
Julian Cox
Literally one lab session will tell you how terrible that dancing stance is and how easy it to deal with her back roll. The only dangerous move from it is the mid that can be easily side walked or interrupted with df1 with some characters.
More like every single person who hates obnoxiuos people
Colton Baker
>the only korean that isn't a emotionless robot >people dont like him for it
its barely showmanship, hes just doing something other than the approved playing of the game or staring at your phone waiting for your next game.
are personalities banned in Korea or something?
Hudson Torres
>are personalities banned in Korea or something?
None of the western players act as embarrasing as chanel
Leo Price
Super Akouma. Except that he takes it too far by litteraly crying when he loses.
Isaiah James
are you on the spectrum?
Nathan Wilson
thephantom Sodam puts on a show too. Threw his wallet at Saint on stage for not giving him an hug
Henry Sanders
Do tell me why you'd think that
Zachary Bennett
Frenchies are emotional. You're reading too much into it.
Kevin Wilson
Well I'm sorry for thinking that crying on stage is overreacting.
Nolan Clark
It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't do it EVERY TIME
Levi Hernandez
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Kayden Jenkins
He doesn't cry though, he just looks sad and disappointed.
Ayden Watson
Lol crying on stage. Learn to control your emotions. Someone that cries over a video game because they lost or normally mentally weak.
Jack Taylor
He literally cries every time what are you talking about? He cried when he lost to JDCR in a fucking special event match after winning the main tournament.
Nolan Roberts
Lili is a terrible waifu and Eliza is 2d meme shit am I a piece of shit for playing these two cuties?
Hunter Smith
yea
Michael Reyes
Is it possible to play Ling conservatively and defensively with it being effective? I love her design and moves but rush down doesn't appeal to me.
Carson Peterson
I CANNOT believe Jeondding is from an alternate timeline where Chanel decided to get ripped instead of dabbling in esoteric bullshit.
Jeremiah Butler
What should be my go-to homing move as yoshimitsu? Avoiding the puddle?
Hudson Nelson
learn fundamentals and poking first
Nathan Foster
beat it kid
Angel Robinson
I don't like 2d fighting games at all but if I main Eliza does that mean I actually like 2d fightings even though I don't like them?
Xavier Nelson
This. Ling has way too many distractions, and encourages bad habits like flowcharting and snake edging.
Tyler Roberts
I have I'm asking for a secondary to have fun with and I realized I've never mained a female character in my life.
Leo Ross
No. You like playing a 2d character in a 3d enviorment. It's an entirely different ball game
Embarrassing
Matthew Perry
Why do so many people online act like they have something to prove? When I win a few games in a row and then they manage to win one they Ki-charge and winquit.
Sebastian Taylor
You can play Ling blindfolded and you will still be effective user
Juan Jackson
I'm talking against non-stupid people. I've never struggled against Ling players because they all go way too ham and 9 times out of 10 end up killing themselves.
Levi Stewart
>ling players are more likely to kill themselves than yoshi players >yoshimitsu has moves that actually kill himself Beautiful.
Alexander Price
Quick what's the best item in the game?
Kevin Myers
Dragunov's tank or some shit like that.
Blake Peterson
Shaheen's bird. The fact that it caws when using the rage art it awesome.
Nicholas Lewis
Tall Paul
Caleb Long
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Anthony Ortiz
You think he tells his clients that red bull will bring them good luck?
Nathan Edwards
yes, he says that red bull will give them a few ranks of tekken skill
Jack Reyes
Alisa is so fucking stupid. She has complete control over the neutral. That jet pack shit is some injustice gimmicks. Also, fuck Steve Fox.
Nolan Ross
No, that it will give them wings
I play Alisa myself and this is pretty true. She can mix you up from a big ass distance and there's not much you can do about it.
Xavier Garcia
The true challenge in Tekken is coming up with a good handle to register in tournaments with.
Leo Johnson
I don't play Alisa, but when I play against her I find it fairly easy to deal with her jetpack because her moves from are too slow to use up close and are predictable from a distance, so I already look to sidestep them.
Brody Robinson
Or you can be the superior robot and beat her at the keep out game
Chase Scott
Why be a superior robot when I can be a superior teenage girl?