/dbfzg/ - Dragon Ball FighterZ General

girlDog
girlDog

Jobhan edition

previous: veekyforums.com/thread/204422484/video-games

Basic mechanics:
docs.google.com/document/d/1rrh_EWca6MB1WUZfjIZ97LYhYspshivHjM352KmZ4g4/edit?usp=sharing

PS4 and Xbox controls:
i.imgur.com/FmZtlvQ.jpg

PC system requirements:
i.imgur.com/Qh9Ie78.jpg

Characters moves and statistics:
docs.google.com/document/d/1G2SSi3eNI9aqekrhRyEOcEp-fnaoh68bO4NF6vlMfQw/edit?usp=sharing

All assists:
docs.google.com/document/d/1Qgi3z7NDatc5vv6eJvA0xzJsyeND8eMIAxUsNZuVpmM/edit

List of hidden mechanics
docs.google.com/document/d/1QyuykC4D5zpnOKt_qyn20ZZzO168Az7Suu_ojD4SVWg/preview#

How to unlock Android 21 and SSGSS Goku and Vegeta:
shoryuken.com/2018/01/23/heres-how-to-unlock-ssgss-goku-ssgss-vegeta-and-android-21-in-dragon-ball-fighterz/

Prima guide:
primagames.com/games/dragon-ball-fighterz/coverage/dragon-ball-fighterz-guide

CouchWarriors guide:
couchwarriors.org/welcome-to-dragonball-fighterz-a-beginners-guide/

Semi-universal combo route:
[YouTube] [DBFZ] Optimal universal solo combo route for most chars? (No assists, no SB, midscreen)

Numeric Notation Sheet:
i.imgur.com/CsTcCQJ.jpg

Network colors (the square next to the name)
twitter.com/BandaiNamcoUS/status/959640513669349378

Ranks and their respective amounts of BP
i.imgur.com/zhwN8jg.png

Glossary:
shoryuken.com/glossary/

[un]Official Anime Music Pack:
mega.nz/#!LIFSwCLY!v-23eKhCAONXjoty_8AitMefS54iVlLBc9-5gLdeVlU

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sites.google.com/view/dbfzhbtchamber/piccolo
mobile.twitter.com/omgAyane/status/961498770385993728
twitch
docs.google.com/document/d/1fhlq7qASMlUHDd978Eh0b2x_DC5H55spIF-BvPpdkT4/edit
youtube.com/watch?v=08nurogvXDQ
dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=DBFZ/Adult_Gohan#Potential_Unleashed_2
youtube.com/watch?v=4iUermT7Liw
youtube.com/watch?v=-BcfFD5siC0
youtube.com/watch?v=X8H2mVYmOPI
pastebin.com/iG5fwJMw
youtube.com/watch?v=_LGBakqzlkU
veekyforums.com/thread/204664716/video-games

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

actual previous: veekyforums.com/thread/204519961/video-games

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I NEED KAIOKEN

happy_sad
happy_sad

sites.google.com/view/dbfzhbtchamber/

user's site with combos

RumChicken
RumChicken

Why is everyone but Chi-Chi an adult?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Who /Bluegeta/ here

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I want to learn him, but to get damage in the corner or favorable situation in the corner with a nonstandard combo, I need to use meter and I dont like to spend meter

King_Martha
King_Martha

Done grinding zeni
Go online
Random disconnects and slow matchmaking
Back to grinding

You were the chosen one. The one that took over Marvel at EVO

StonedTime
StonedTime

Mystic Gohan: 90 billion
SSJ3 Goku: 30 billion
SSJ2 Vegeta: 8 billion

Feels good being #1.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Power levels don't matter when you get absorbed

whereismyname
whereismyname

how did you grind zeni? tfw still not a single android 21 avatar

Techpill
Techpill

Glad i don't watch the new shit, that animation is terrible

askme
askme

You just train

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

elaborate... i go in training mode and i sometimes get 1000 zenni and sometimes i get nothing after a long time.
wink

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

How strong is she without feeding and without the waves, like SSG tier or SS2?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Can you just fuck off? Thanks

RumChicken
RumChicken

I use him on point with trunks on mid but i don't know who to put as a third.

5mileys
5mileys

He's fun as fuck. Still trying to find a good team comp with hin though. I like 21 but not sure on who's the 3rd

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

would you do a gentlemen agreement with an opponent and charge ki at the start of the match?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I can't air dash to crossup my opponent and then immediately face them to hit them with air normals, but I see people do this all the time, how do you go about doing that? Because when I try I use the normals and still face the direction i was before the cross-up.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Tienshinhan on point
Sure

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What would Base Vegeta have for his specials and supers?

Galick Gun and some Oozaru super? I wonder if they'll actually go ahead with the latter.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

The firework thing as his super 3, max power galick gun as lvl1

TreeEater
TreeEater

I think you hold 4 or 6 as you airdash over them.

It's actually pretty tricky.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

alright, thank you

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

A.Gohan & Cell are top tier
What about Gohan Blanco & Cell Dorado?

Lunatick
Lunatick

not posting the webm with the superior beatdown on Black

likme
likme

i hope they do something oozaru related but i wouldn't be surprised if they keep it out, would be a lot of work

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You know I can't.user. Anyway, can you answer my question, it's kinda important

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Beating all those Black faggots with Yamchad
Feels fucking good

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

IMHO, Base Goku and Base Vegeta will be simply two skins with a different animations for their Super X3. Same movesets, but Goku will use the spirt Bomb after connecting and Vegeta the Garrik Cannon instead of the Final Flash.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

How long does lvl 3 sparkling last?
Was trying to buy some time by just turtleing because this guy didn't do a single overhead but I kept fucking myself by coming out of block at the wrong times again Kid Buu

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

doubt it

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

they recently confirmed that costumes will at some point be in the game, so when people found files for base goku and scouter vegeta it now seems more likely that'll they'll be costumes.

hairygrape
hairygrape

What about your dumbass memes?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

WHEN

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

that would mean there's 2 characters missing from the pass though

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

She can hold off the spirit bomb which is pretty fucking rare.

Flameblow
Flameblow

they recently confirmed that costumes
They didn't. You saw a vague image pulled from the files and began to spew nonsense.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Dustloop frame data has to be inaccurate right? There's no way 18's 6M is +4 on block.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Ginyu's 5H in the air ends in a hard knockdown
You can then use his level 1 super into DHC very easily
Why is he considered low tier again? So far he seems to have every tool needed for you to do what you need

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

implying
twitter.com/Mastaklo/status/961253301168852993
it's literally labeled "CS_ColorSelect_Costumes" in the game's files

farquit
farquit

can do the bare minimum
this is somehow impressive

Techpill
Techpill

I'm talking about the one who didn't vore people,user. the other one was running off Freiza and Cell's power along with the entire Ginyu Forve and Nappa

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

well, they could be other characters, who knows. Base goku and vegeta are also special since their models are in the games files currently, so it's kinda a mystery currently. Really right now the possibility is out there that they could be either.

SniperWish
SniperWish

What a stupid fucking character.
uguuuu i eat so much food is so yummy teehee don't be mad mista
What a cringey toddler character.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

So, Fat Buu?

JunkTop
JunkTop

5H in the air ends in a hard knockdown
You can then use his level 1 super into DHC very easily
So 90% of the characters in the game?

takes2long
takes2long

like 60% of characters are obsessed with food, also shes like that because of buu cells.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Confused by this one, he lived because sparkling regen he still has his sparkling and mine wore off, also has more metre than me.
Could just be a dc but there wasn't any lag at all before it just cuts instantly.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Except those characters are not intended to be virgin fapbait.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

this guy is literally this autistic
I'm going to type in "complain some more" and you're going to reply with the word "waifufag" and I'm going to laugh at how you get anally devastated over a video game character.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Neither is she. She's a nice person who likes to eat, like Buu, are you just projecting your crush on her,user? That's so cute.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

anally devastated
disliking a poor design is autism
Yea bro, everyone you disagree with is so, so mad. Stupid waifufag.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

He wants to live in Buu's stomach forever and DC'd because he doesn't want to come out user

Snarelure
Snarelure

genuine reply
This is only getting worse. Keep going, lmao.

iluvmen
iluvmen

That's a pretty pathetic post.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

just bought this game on peecee and played for 2 hours, nearly every online match had lag. is it just me and my shitty internet?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Not being sexual attracted to Fat Buu's innocence.
Shiggy diggy.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

This seems more a dc. Not a rage quit.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Am I supposed to use assists before my combo string ends or right after? Not sure how to use them correctly to continue pressure.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Stay mentally stunted. Waifufags.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Gay

Flameblow
Flameblow

you mean block string? you use them to cover up a less positive attack.

TreeEater
TreeEater

calling other people mentally stunted
cant handle a cute character in his mature anime game for mature games

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

asspulls and strawmans

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

game has been out for two weeks
still no patches for all the major problems

Fucking hell.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

My team is A.Gohan/21/Black

Anyone got some basic combos I can practice beyond the regular 2m 5m staircase?

idontknow
idontknow

user, you came into this thread about a fighting game for the sole purpose of getting angry at pink tits
things need work but this game doesn't have any major problems as of yet.

RumChicken
RumChicken

game doesn't have any major problems
Not being able to reliably play with friends, modes being randomly broken and all the random disconnects are major problem.
Fucking hell, I want to be actually able to play ring party mode without spending half an hour.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I want to be actually able to play ring party mode without spending half an hour.
It works for me perfectly.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Looks like last game server update broke the game

whereismyname
whereismyname

oh, nevermind you're right. I keep forgetting abou the online issues since I play local and training mode more than anything.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

How the fuck am I supposed to do anything against Hit
I don’t know when my turn is and his buttons are insane
I can hang against every character and I know how to use my options but I am fucking lost against him

Skullbone
Skullbone

he lacks any form of aerial game and needs assists to cover that weakness, use that to your advantage

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

You just have to keep improving

Nojokur
Nojokur

Superrush. Seriously, Hit's 2H is abysmal.

His lows are also super slow and probably the worst in the game.
He's strong in specific areas and really weak in the rest.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Stop disconnecting me in the middle of intense matches. Fucking hell.

cum2soon
cum2soon

for android 21 iad j.H cover all tech options after a j.214B
but impossible to followup for any damage so taking it to the face allows you to escape

what the hell

Evilember
Evilember

Who are the most honest characters in this game? Characters that are basic, reward fundamentals, and don't rely on gimmicks.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Want to get Frieza commentary
Grind for hours until I have over 500,000 Zeni
Spend it all
Still don't have Frieza on commentary

Emberburn
Emberburn

Kid buu. Hit. Cell.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Teen Gohan, Tien, Goku

Supergrass
Supergrass

Seriously? The day 1?
Abysmal as in the startup is too slow or it whiffs a lot?
Thanks to the other guy for the advice as well. I know Hit’s limited in the air but my problem is it’s hard to create whiffs to catch because the player generally knows that too, and it’s hard to approach from the air unless it’s done predictably

Methshot
Methshot

300k
Dark green

This system should really punish losses harsher than it does

JunkTop
JunkTop

Will I like this game if I don't play online much (or at all)? I don't really like fighters, but I loved Dissidia 012 because of how much single-player content it had.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Vegeta defeats Golden Frieza
Finally takes out an arc's main villain for once instead of Goku
Finally avenges his planet and defeats the man he was forced to work with
LOL NEVER MIND HE DESTROYED THE EARTH
REWIND
GOKU IS THE ONE WHO SAVES THE DAY AGAIN LOL

So fucking unnecessary

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

No

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

The single player campaign is long but pretty boring, the AI hardly fights back until the end. I wouldn't recommend it for single player.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

they will never let vegeta be the star, his moments will always just be moments that just set up for goku moments.

SniperWish
SniperWish

How do I gitgud with 18?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You can be a dark green and have a better win/loss ratio than golds.

I'm a 50% dark green at 350k and I've seen sub 50% golds.

Bidwell
Bidwell

you unironically get good at using 17

idontknow
idontknow

I have 80% winrate in ranked and I'm light green
I happen to spend a lot of time in ring matches with tournament level players so I lose a lot

WebTool
WebTool

Yeah, I know. I don't even like Vegeta and his job has traditionally been to be the punching bag to demonstrate how strong a villain is before Goku saves the day.

But this was so unnecessary. What was the point of the time rewind? To demonstrate that Whis could do it? Just let the first time be when Zamasu tries to assassinate universe 10's Kai. What was gained by not having Vegeta just win and leaving it there?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How do I play fat buu

Flameblow
Flameblow

If you have to ask, just give up.

FastChef
FastChef

It whiffs a lot (probably not as much as Krillin's though) and it doesn't seem to be particularly fast either.

Methshot
Methshot

Learn to use 17 properly. That and her level 1 super are basically all she has over other people. Her normals have shitty range, her command grab is useless and her assist isn't as good as others. She's still very good purely because of 17 so once you figure out how to get the most out of him you'll be fine.

MPmaster
MPmaster

like I said it was a set up for a goku moments, was supposed to teach him that sometimes he needs to finish the job or else there will be awful consequences.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Space, space and space. You want to keep people at mid-range, try getting good at his neutral before optimizing his combos.

Bidwell
Bidwell

i have frieza and piccolo commentary after just shy of 2 million zeni. i have 1 black costume colour. enjoy your grind for rng loot boxes. beat story on hard and farm that lvl 6 zeni if you really care. i do it to practice combos on moving targets sometimes. 5k per fight. 100k+ per hour.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

How though? I only ever use him on knockdown because 18's hair flick animation takes forever

takes2long
takes2long

thats the best time, you get them into hard knockdown and then use 17 for pressure as well as assists. Then while they are block 17 and assists you go for mixups.

w8t4u
w8t4u

You can do M 17 after an aerial 2H as well. These combos are tricky though.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Oh, cool. That's what I've been doing anyway. I thought there was more to it but every time I try to actually use him in combos it seems to do less damage than if I hadn't.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Lol yeah. It's really annoying because you have to air dash while 18 is off screen but I managed to get the timing. I've just found that the hassle isn't worth it and only good for style points, I don't do any more damage.

5mileys
5mileys

there are some combos which involve using him after jumping down heavy but she isn't a combo character since she mostly only have her normals to work with. There are optomized combos for finishing off your opponent but her thing is pressure with 17, thats also why she does well on point because extra assists help pressure even more on top of her non-offensive assist when not tagged in.

Illusionz
Illusionz

sites.google.com/view/dbfzhbtchamber/piccolo

some fuck complained about daily dose not having combos last night, so there.

idontknow
idontknow

Which assists work with majin buu gum setups?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

thanks user, your work is appreciated

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

mobile.twitter.com/omgAyane/status/961498770385993728

is there anything this fucker cant do? now he calls assists AND assist swaps the same guy.
literally perfect.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This game as an absurd amount of ragequitters. Once you hit the 100k BP marks 9/10 people quit on their last character's tag.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

explain this!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Meter swaps don't need assist to be off the cooldown so I'm not really sure what's there to be surprised about.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The servers disconnecting the lobby adds to this. You can watch streamers and see them losing and the other guy "rage quits" despite having 1 or 2 more characters. Then you'll see the streamer randomly disconnect from the lobby as well with connection lost message first and have to reconnect. There's definitely some rage quitters, but I dont think its nearly as many legitimate RQs as people make out there to be.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

God, how fucking long is this story mode. I've been doing this shit for like 8 hours and I don't even feel like I'm half done.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Like 10-11 hours if you skip most clones.

SniperGod
SniperGod

which story are you on?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Yeah, I've seen a fair share of DCs during combos and even when the other guy is leading. But there are really blatant ones where you are 3-1 and the match is interrupted just as you catch them in a bad spot. You can tell the guy is frustrated as well because they typically start beam spamming or pulling out raw supers, then lose.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Is there a way to know if your name is purple or not from random disconnects? How much allowance does this game have for this bullshit.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I have actually had zero disconnects since launch. Maybe you guys should get off the wifi.

girlDog
girlDog

Actual matches are perfectly fine for me. It's just the lobby that sometimes decides to boot me out for no real reason. Use ethernet if you want stable matches.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Likewise. I have NEVER been disconnected from the lobby except during the unscheduled maintenance despite seeing a few DCs mid-match.

5mileys
5mileys

It works on my machine xD
Also post hours, it's not possible if you played some ranked.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I'm not home and it is possible. I've played over 200 casual matches and 100 ranked.
it works on my machine xD
And you're saying the same shit
it doesn't work for me so it can't possibly work for anyone else xD

Snarelure
Snarelure

I only had one in a match
down to last character
getting bodied, he still has all 3
land a level 3 reversal, spend sparking to finish off two character
his anchor is at full health, lots of meter and my sparking is running out but I'm on a roll
he gets the first hit, but it won't kill, I can still come back
DC

Flameblow
Flameblow

why is it always the Goku Black players?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Not him, but I've put in quite a few hours (mostly running the game idle though). No disconnects from lobby, at all. 16/16 Ranked wins.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Stop making me look like a fucking pussy you goddamn peice of shit game. Jesus christ.
For people not having any connection problems it would be nice to know which lobbies are you using.
I'm playing france and uk mostly.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Because most people play Goku black, so by virtue most disconnecting players will be using him.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I get constant disconnects in UK. Northern Europe is where I've been going since and 90% of the time it's perfectly fine.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

EU Nordic. Other EUs for ring matches and whatnot if low pop.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Canada West, US West

Emberfire
Emberfire

some pretty decent a18 action in last night's NLBC vod

twitch
.tv/videos/226803923

Skullbone
Skullbone

CHARACTER DISCORDS
docs.google.com/document/d/1fhlq7qASMlUHDd978Eh0b2x_DC5H55spIF-BvPpdkT4/edit

5mileys
5mileys

what platform are you on? are disconnects more prevalent on certain platforms?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I never learn anything from these.

w8t4u
w8t4u

If only he didn't eat meter to do cool combos

King_Martha
King_Martha

I don't mind eating meter. You build it pretty fast

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I find the discords way more helpful than these threads. You can actually post combos and ask for help/advice and people will help. You do it here and everyone shitposts and calls you a retard.

w8t4u
w8t4u

That's because they're always 3 or 4 guys who know what they're talking about and 100 more who end up talking about memes after a few months.

Spamalot
Spamalot

he plays blue and not regular
He's objectively better moron stop playing blues

FastChef
FastChef

A.Gohan
holding someone in the corner blocking for what feels like forever between assists and 2H EX legs
they finally slip up and don't react to the IAD

iluvmen
iluvmen

is the story mode really that bad

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Is it still possible to combo into an assist's raw super like in this video? youtube.com/watch?v=08nurogvXDQ

I keep trying it but it's not working. He says the timing is strict but I tried everything.

Supergrass
Supergrass

It's a half-circle, not a quarter circle

41236A for level 1
63214A for level 3

Flameblow
Flameblow

yes
you HAVE to do a half circle
I've seen people say you just do quarter circle but that has literally never worked for me even once

girlDog
girlDog

its okay. most people rush through it to get android 21 tho

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

it's really long, fights get boring real quick, especially since they don't even use the game's full roster. And the map mini-game where you have to beat as much as you can in X amount of spaces means nothing when after 6 hours you just get sick of it and rush to get 21.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

stop playing blues
no

Booteefool
Booteefool

Can I play local 3v3 if I connect 6 controllers at the "side select" screen? Is it limited to 1 controller per side?

Playboyize
Playboyize

It's just really fucking boring. The little character dialogue moments are pretty cool, but after a while I don't care enough about them to autistically switch around my team every match until one of the scenes pops up

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

HELP I PICKED ANDROID 18 AND I DON'T INTO HOW TO WORK HER DOING?

WHAT DO

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Frieza is by far the most honest

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Quite atrocious, but the villan scenario, is, at last, funny.

cum2soon
cum2soon

All of my mains and none of yours.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Freeza.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

This but with my mains

SniperGod
SniperGod

This but with his mains

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I'm playing on PC. Lot's of PC players having DC issues. I'm fairly certain it's got a lot to do with shitty connections and poorly configured networks.

Booteefool
Booteefool

This but with their mains

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

So, how are we doing playerbase wise lads?
What are the chances this game dies in like 3 months?
I really like the game and I look forward to gitting gud but I don't want another blunder.
Is this game worth my time and effort?
Yellow namekusei reporting signing off.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

It's the most popular fighting game of all time. It'll be alive and kicking long to come IF THEY FIX THE FUCKING SERVERS AND CONNECTION ISSUES BECAUSE NORMIES ARE MASS RAGEQUITTING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIGHT THEIR NORMIE FRIENDS REEEEE

It's fine, don't worry about a thing. :)

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

can i get that pic of 16 dunking mvci into the trash? i need it for a salty marvel friend

farquit
farquit

full screen low
arm ball can be IAD out of
You can IAD overhead or IAD into a crossup after medium arm ball of kid buus
fags were saying kid buu doesn't have a good neutral game
Why do people shit on kid buu so much? He is too fucking good and super versatile

Bidwell
Bidwell

why are people saying shit I just made up?
Yea wtf bro

hairygrape
hairygrape

Please dont use my combos without crediting me first.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Glad to hear that, pal.
Honestly the only thing I've found to be unfair or plain shit is just the servers, yeah, everything else is pretty much a dream come true.

SniperGod
SniperGod

His jM cancels make good mixups if you've started pressure but most of his pressure is easily reflected out of and excepting medium which can be punished if you're at the wrong height his normals are pretty stubby.

RavySnake
RavySnake

t. Saibaman

Evilember
Evilember

you pick 18 to use 17
you're doing it wrong

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I saw numerous times in this general that kid buu had a terrible neutral game.

StonedTime
StonedTime

how to 17???

i press 214buttons and he does things but then he stops doing things and 18 gets hurt bad

RumChicken
RumChicken

thanks. hope you can gobble up some saibamen

Supergrass
Supergrass

Also I keep getting messages like this so ill just post it here again. I don't WANT to enter tournaments ever again. I dont care. I said it many times I already won tournaments before as a kid in various games. I was winning tournaments with a garbage bag in my pocket everywhere I went. On disablity losing my hair from radiation getting sick in between matchs. Blah blah. I won the last tournament I went to as well. Hell one of the last big tournaments I went to you know what they said after I won. People were just talking about how could you let clayton win again. So you know what I said, I won my last tournament and I said fuck it I dont care, games havnt been fun for a long time now. So I quit. Even if I wasnt still sick in and out of the hospital I wouldnt go. I dont like the community in general. I said it before again once you get good enough at something that you can potentially make any money youll see unless you have a killer instinct its not gonna be fun. Some people talk about how they hate games, yet then you see them entering tournaments all the time. Thats not me. I said I dont want to enter tournaments. So I stopped. And never looked back. Now I just randomly play video games for fun when im bored. And im fine with that. The fact I have so many trolls even for making these videos goes to show you how many losers in the FGC. And I have better things to do then that. But hey if you like the game and want to enter tournaments go ahead. Have fun. But I dont care to. I also dont care about uploading matchs of myself in various games. What so people can see me win? Then I have to deal with how full of myself I am? Sweet got it. Or deal with comments about how lucky I get when I win? Wow sounds fun. Ill pass.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Please dont use my combos without crediting me first
Yes, because you're the only one who could ever come up with a combo, right user?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Please stop using combos.

FastChef
FastChef

Just play an easy character. You are obviously a brainlet.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

He's good but still not top tier

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

DO NOT REPOST

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

just play an easy character
That's why I picked Android 35

Inmate
Inmate

a.gohan
Trully the cancer that will kill the online.

takes2long
takes2long

cancer that will kill the online
That would be Black

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Is this combo copyrighted?

takes2long
takes2long

level 7 combo
Wow impressive, so cool! Only took 7 bars! :)

I'll repost it next thread and pretend that I made it. What're you gonna do about it?

Supergrass
Supergrass

I've got some advice for everyone out there having a hard time against Black.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

protip: if you want to be a little autocombo masher and not learn the game, don't pick Goku Blue

you might think that the low overhead string is good but actually you can heavy right through it and then you're gonna get perfected

Snarelure
Snarelure

Wow. What a great post.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Anyways, I do not have the autism to do such a combo with my pad.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Goku blue is one of the best characters to autocombo with.

takes2long
takes2long

ITS ANOTHER LEVEL 7 SPARKING COMBO IN THE CORNER EPISODE BUT NO THIS FAG USED 8 BARS ACTUALLY

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

can you 2B it?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I have not even unlocked Goku SSB, so I have no idea what you're saying.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I have a better one

Supergrass
Supergrass

am I missing something? Hes only using 1 bar and hes not sparking.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Post your shitty copyrighted combos

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

cool i didnt know you could heavy through it, im gonna try that.

JunkTop
JunkTop

He's reverse beating, meaning Gohan is at level 7.

Evilember
Evilember

this is 7 bars gohan mi amigo, due to reverse beat

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

ah, I'm not familiar with what gohan gains from unleashed other than the teleport overhead and the rapid fire punch.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

So you assholes in this thread can criticize me and shitpost about the character I'm using? No, fuck you. Fuck all of you. You don't deserve people posting combos. Even that autist who posted the Gohan combo a minute ago got treated like crap. I will NEVER post my own combos here again, ever, period.

But I will post user's combos. Here, have fun asshole.

takes2long
takes2long

He gets super fast and gets reverse beat, basically meaning he can break the combo order. More or less. Sort of. In other words level 7 Gohan is, in theory, the most broken combomaster in this entire game. The issue is getting him there in the first place. But even level 1 Gohan is still pretty decent so it's not that big a deal.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

ah, thanks for the tip

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

is it even possible to punish Goku Blacks 2H? I feel like its completely safe on block.

girlDog
girlDog

Try super dashing

happy_sad
happy_sad

started dark green
getting smacked by light greens
train some more
smack light greens
turn yellow
started getting smacked by reds
go to train
smack yellows and some reds
now I'm red
Do I have zenkai?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

android 21 frame data when

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Nobody cares enough about this game to figure out any frame data

Methnerd
Methnerd

I make 5 cents every time someone reposts this

Booteefool
Booteefool

But there's already frame data for multiple characters

idontknow
idontknow

Frame data is for people who want to ruin the game.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=DBFZ/Adult_Gohan#Potential_Unleashed_2

King_Martha
King_Martha

Try not to be jealous of the damage now ;)

farquit
farquit

thanks user

Methshot
Methshot

I refuse to fight people while they are sparking. I just wait it out. Am I a faggot?

Methnerd
Methnerd

nerf Piccolo

viagrandad
viagrandad

How is Trunks?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

OP as fuck

Emberfire
Emberfire

I think Android 18 has the worst 2H in the game

It's bad

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Good range and pressure. Good damage in the corner with flippy loops. Good assist. He's pretty underrated in my opinion

hairygrape
hairygrape

Waiting it out is best unless they do something clearly unsafe. They should be approaching you and trying to slap you around if they're sparking anyway.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I mean, lvl 3 sparking has so much regen that you can literally regen off the damage done to by combos as they combo you, but you can still get damage in via supers at the end of combos.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Is vegeta okay as point? Everything is telling me he's a support character

SniperWish
SniperWish

when you beat someone better/higher rank than you

massdebater
massdebater

Solid high tier.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Super Saiyan Vegeta? You really want to use his assist since it's probably one of the best in the game so I wouldn't have him on point.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Krillin and Beerus say hi

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Every trunks I've ever seen has mashed his L autocombo at least four times in the match.

iluvmen
iluvmen

when someone ragequits against you

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

That's because Trunks autocombo is actually a good cross up tool

Booteefool
Booteefool

trunks and goku have the best and most usable auto combo tho

Spamalot
Spamalot

Can I move frieza to point and keep my team the same then?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

when you lose to someone better than you
they give you a rematch
you leave after winning the rematch and don't finish the set

WebTool
WebTool

if I have a poor wifie connection, and i only want to act as a spectator, does this also risk undermining the duel for the two contenders?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Sure

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Freeza
Point
But why.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

guy named subarashii
doesn't even use goku black

what a faggot

takes2long
takes2long

His hitbox is very hayai

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

But you'd call him a faggot if he did use Black, though

idontknow
idontknow

Some autocombos are pretty good.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

My team is Fat Buu, SSVegeta and Hit, I've been using Hit as my point, Vegeta as my mid, and Buu as anchor, is that an non-trash team order?

farquit
farquit

kinda, both hit and buu are point characters, though hit needs to be point way more than buu does.

TreeEater
TreeEater

RB stops working mid match
It was already crapping out but I could press it hard enough and it would work.
I ended up just superdasing like a retard when i needed sparkling. Fuck.

Inmate
Inmate

pressing both assists makes them both hit in tandem
Thank you for this. Cool stuff.

idontknow
idontknow

Move Veggies to Anchor

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

So, what are the good autocombos?

So far it seems...

Frieza
Full screen grab is pretty strong

Beerus
Cross up might be good with assist coverage

SSB Goku
Overhead might be good with assist coverage

Trunks
Passes through and has strange hurtboxes

I'm sure there's more good ones.

Bidwell
Bidwell

he isn't using a 4 star lobby character with 01 color
lmao plebs

Methnerd
Methnerd

how do i use fat boo

i cant figure out any combos

5mileys
5mileys

guy with an orange square ragequits

nice lmao

askme
askme

what's trunks best combo out of uppercut?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

He's weird. Either land 5M, then 2H

Or 2M, 2S, L, jumpcancel into air stuff

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Fat buu
2nd hit is a low
This is good since his 5M is an overhead

iluvmen
iluvmen

Holy fuck I played at a friend's place today with a Brook Converter, on a huge television on a ps4.

My execution was so fucking garbage.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

but whats the air stuff? i cant find anything even remotely good. i can combo in this his qcb move but it seems hot garbage

farquit
farquit

Funny how much people complain about autocombos just because of their naming.
They are basically just target combos from SF or dial strings from NRS titles.
In MK, 1,1,1 will do the same thing. 1 is a normal but the other moves only exist within the string. Many of them even pop up into another string. Same concept, unoptimal but still an option.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Beerus autocombos are abysmal.

Supergrass
Supergrass

This, more dangerous than useful. Beerus is a fun character, but a it's struggle to manage.

Spamalot
Spamalot

guy is yellow square but ranked below me
start kicking his ass
dc
reeeeeeeeeeeeee

Emberburn
Emberburn

for people who use sticks, do you use the iad shortcut or manually input it?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

your opponent is red with a Krillian/Yamcha/Tien team

what's going through your mind

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'm going to get rage quit on

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Funny how much people complain about autocombos.

They complain about it because even a noob with an autocombo can do 3700 easy damage and there is no way to escape. With Normal combos there is always a possibility of a wrong input.

hairygrape
hairygrape

please do not steal

Flameblow
Flameblow

is this true piccolo? doing coolass keikaku doori shit that isn't actually very strong at all

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yes. I take my Piccolo role playing VERY seriously.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

banking on your opponent being stupid

l o l

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

recommend me a good Vegeta combo that does good damage, it's not hard to pull off and only uses 1 meter

Emberfire
Emberfire

I only know combos that start from crouching power attack because every single shitter in low ranks just spams super dash into block and it's how I win every game

Snarelure
Snarelure

Blessed be this game and you all, players.

Emberfire
Emberfire

bnb universal for most with big bang finish

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

is it possible to charge ki and get away with it?

takes2long
takes2long

Nope.

Spamalot
Spamalot

does the vanish even do anything here? why not smash to ground, super and dhc into teen gohan?

girlDog
girlDog

You could lock them down with an assist and probably get a bar or do it for a short time after a skd but it's probably not worth it.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Give me a third for my Bluegeta / Trunks team and how i should dispose them

i wish there was a double galick gun move

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

it looks cool

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

people that have smurf accounts
This is annoying as fuck. I don't want to lose a million rank because it thinks I'm losing to earthling and not a super saiyan 2

Lunatick
Lunatick

Why is playing 16 so satisfying

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

meter charge might as well be this game's taunt. It's always better to go for pressure on your opponent since meter is pretty easy to build up anyways.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

frieza's is blockable, so not a real grab. ssgss goku is insanely good, but for the low. starting dmg off the 5L (blocked) L (hit) is ridiculous. delay 2M and go into air series for 6k midscreen. 2L 5LL delay 2M is also super strong. 2L 5LL instant air dash is nuts too for low light starters into autocombo pieces. a16 can delay 5LL~L to get the 3rd part as another grab.

Nojokur
Nojokur

playing grapplers is always satisfying no matter which game

takes2long
takes2long

Can beat you with 5 bar

DeathDog
DeathDog

You just suck that bad dude.

WebTool
WebTool

he's broken

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

because dunking people is fun
also best theme
youtube.com/watch?v=4iUermT7Liw

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

He was red from 10 matches. Fuck off.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

muh combos muh frame data muh anchor
why do tryhard autists have to ruin everything?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

this was actually possible in a match.

How the flying fuck?

Firespawn
Firespawn

why does everyone use freezer to practice on?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

donutsteel
youtube.com/watch?v=-BcfFD5siC0

King_Martha
King_Martha

After a certain point, tryharding becomes the fun.

Also being ignorant while trying to improve is also no fun

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

We had 5 of them gathered anyway from just playing and I figured might as well save some bar and mash on that autocombo.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I hope they use the superior Merged Zamasu

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Yamcha's is good on block because his headstand kick's final hit pushes pretty far

Illusionz
Illusionz

I just wanted to hear Trunk's burning attack against Freezer

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

you're like a chess player that spends 50 years memorizing 500 different openings to the 50th move, where is the fun in that? it's just work.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Isn't he the default select on P2? I'm sure they are just mashing select on dummy selects

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

What's fun about learning?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

self study is fun

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

everybody needs a hobby

farquit
farquit

chess isn't fun
Spotted a braindead retard.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Fighting games might not be for you

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Update: was thinking of using blue goku.. but im still not sure.

TreeEater
TreeEater

chess can be a lot of fun, but not when getting stomped by fucking magnus carlsen over and over again. people learning about frame data, hitboxes and 8k damage combos is why this genre is so dead

Bidwell
Bidwell

why don't you try using him and find out?

Long as you can justify using something or doing something, then it's fine.

Did mobafags get into this game? I've never seen position and role be discussed as hard as this game.

SniperWish
SniperWish

maybe not, but i mostly play locally against friends that are on my level, which is a ton of fun.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

genre dead
what
also learning frame data for moves and a little tech is in no way comparable to the complexities of chess.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

people learning about frame data, hitboxes and 8k damage combos is why this genre is so dead
No, people being unable to learn of those is why the genre's dead. You get your ass kicked and you don't even realize what's happening.

Good chunk of the questions in this general gets unanswered because people simply do not know complete move properties.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Probably as strong as cell and kid buu put together but no more. Would probably get rekt by an SSGSS in the anime

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

but not when getting stomped by fucking magnus carlsen over and over again.
Spoken like a true bitch boy. You get not drive off trying to become better than magnus carlsen? It's competition. Nothing makes me more happy than when I connect to someone on par or better than me. Nothing is fun about just smashing shitters.

You watch Dragon Ball. You think Goku would have fun fighting raditz over and over? No. He wants to fight the best, ones that are stronger than him to improve.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Not how that works. Cry more.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Then why are you bitching about what people at a higher level do?

takes2long
takes2long

why do you hate learning and improving?
that's against basic human nature

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

But user, Janenbu is the same rank as SSGSS Vegito and Merged Zamasu.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I'd guess somewhere above Kid Buu and normie pre-split Fat Buu, and below pre-split angry Fat Buu/Super Buu but that's just pure headcanon.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

what the fuck do I do against people who just dash back after I block their super dash? Do I just have to punish them before they get blocked?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Fuck that. He knew what he was doing. Like I said fuck off. No one is that good from 10 matches played.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Nothing makes me more happy than when I connect to someone on par or better than me.
i get that, which is why i play locally and not online, just like i've been doing since first playing street fighter II. it's fun for me learning the game on my own, together with friends, rather than looking up tier lists and frame data online and spending weeks reading wikis and spending even more time practicing combos against npc's. i don't see how this can be fun to anyone that doesn't have legit autism. as i said before, this is work to me. just playing the game and figuring out stuff on my own is fun, not work.
but if you hop online in any fighting game you WILL get stomped unless you work for it. i don't want to work, i already have a job.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

He doesn't know the feeling of improving to the point you beat someone who you couldn't even lay a finger before
He can't even do this on a fucking videogame where doing this is easy as it gets, much less he will know this feeling on his life
Stop living and wasting everyone's time, including yours

Techpill
Techpill

Gotta 2H while they're mid animation and not after the block.
2H after the block only works if they're greedy.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Like I said you are garbage. Cry even more.

whereismyname
whereismyname

FIGHT ME THEN FAGGOT. POST YOUR ID. I WILL FUCKING SHIT DOWN YOUR FUCKING THROAT

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

super them

Supergrass
Supergrass

I simply don't want to play with an enormous faggot like you.

likme
likme

I'm yellow from 1 match, user.

Nojokur
Nojokur

it's only fun if you do it offline with people you know
Stop being a faggot and stop being mad that people put more time into something making them better than you. Fighting games are dead because of faggots like you that don't want to put in the work to get good.

idontknow
idontknow

Yes, figuring games out is fun that's what people are doing right now. Stop complaining that people aren't having fun they way you want them to.
You know what isn't fun to me? Just mashing buttons and calling it a day. Nobody is stopping you from just playing other scrubs.

Techpill
Techpill

being this scared.
It's cool I didn't feel like wasting my time on a shitter like you anyway kiddo

askme
askme

I can't understand how people can enjoy doing something that I don't!
Found the actual autist

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

So what, friend of mine has 5 ranked matches, training boars a lot and basically just plays me and other people he knows and is just a green square for that reason. If he ever plays some more ranked he's going to steamroll most people for a while until he ranks up, doesn't make him a smurf.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

explain to me how practicing the same 10 combos against a non-moving cpu dummies for weeks is fun.
why are you doing it? is it to overcome your shitty reaction times? why do you feel you need to have an edge over other players? i guess there's not much going on irl

takes2long
takes2long

It takes like a day to learn combos. Shut the fuck up

hairygrape
hairygrape

But user, Jenemba is incredibly fucking gay, has the worst design, and is the worst movie villain besides Bio-Broly

Methnerd
Methnerd

That's how it is in everything remotely competitive though user, not just fighting games, if you enter anything without putting work in you'll be stomped.

Spamalot
Spamalot

for weeks
lmao dbfz combos aren't that fucking hard, takes me like half an hour to get a more difficult one down max.
You sound pathetic. Stick to single player games.

takes2long
takes2long

Mean't for

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

for weeks
I think you're just trash and venting about it here

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Don't try saving face now. You and your imaginary smurfs

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

If everyone did the the same combos you would find something else to complain about. I literally can't believe soyboys like you even bother with competitive games, let alone fighting games.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

How do you ever expect to get good at anything without putting in the work? Would anything be impressive if it was easy?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Holy shit, Goku and Vegeta's voice actors playing against eachother

youtube.com/watch?v=X8H2mVYmOPI

Playboyize
Playboyize

Still don't see an ID kiddo. Scared you would get raped? I would stream it for all of /dbfzg/ to see you fucking scrub

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Dude alot of amazing player practically never practice combos. Just play the game and make it a goal to finish whatever you can. Don't play characters that are all combos or advanced tech if you're going to do that. Every good fighter has good characters you can get away with basic shit and still compete at top level.

SF = Guile or Sagat or a Grappler usually
MvC2 = Storm/Cable/Assist
MvC3 = Best Friends or Wesker
Dooberz = Andriod 16 and Black

Bidwell
Bidwell

weeks
plural
game has been out for little over a week
Really activates my almonds. Either tremendous shitter or ebbin troll

idontknow
idontknow

Such big talk for someone that cant beat new players online. You wouldn't be acting like this if you werent positive no games would come from him.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

for weeks
DBFZ
Are you mentally handicapped? serious question

Illusionz
Illusionz

i play a lot of ut pugs and tf2 lobbies, games i'm actually decent at. i'm no fatal1ty, but i can manage. the difference between these games and fighting games is that you can get good by just playing the game (which is what i did), rather than having to look up wikis and reading pages upon pages and basically doing anything but playing the actual game. in ut and tf2 learning comes natural, in fighting games you have to do more outside of the game, which is what i don't understand. where is the fun in reading when you could play instead? i simply don't get it

Bidwell
Bidwell

being this mad at an anonymous poster on a korean waifu imageboard
Shiggy

happy_sad
happy_sad

all these shitters
I'm going back to the dragon ball fighterz subreddit. I can't stand all these fucking scrubs here

Soft_member
Soft_member

O that explains why hes so mad. Hes from reddit. Welp at least no one had to tell you where to go back to

w8t4u
w8t4u

Man, i thought being in the corner in Tekken was frustrating, but this is another level. Are all anime games like this?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Good riddance

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Are all anime games like this?
They're usually more brutal

askme
askme

DBFZ is low on the defensive options because it's slow regardless.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Are you shitposting? I can't tell if you're serious or not. You think fighting game players do math equations for frame data or something? Most stuff from frame data comes from playing. Learning what is safe on block or not. Almost all of the neutral game is learned through playing. Fuck off man

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

op sparks
everything becomes unpunshable
even if you do punish lolregen
amazing mechanic

Emberburn
Emberburn

rather than having to look up wikis and reading pages upon pages and basically doing anything but playing the actual game
What the fuck are you talking about? It takes like 10 minutes to look up combos and frame data. Actually playing the game is how you improve and learn things. It sounds like you're just looking for excuses to be bad

SniperWish
SniperWish

well that explains a lot

Emberburn
Emberburn

I can't tell if you're serious or not.
that's how they get you

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

it's still somehow better then X factor, though the regen needs to be toned down, at the very least make it heal for half or less wile taking damage

Lunatick
Lunatick

Quick everyone! Migrate to the dbfz subreddit so we can continue to assblast user!

askme
askme

SALT SALT SALT SALT SALT SALT SALT SALT SALT SALT

Lunatick
Lunatick

I hate comeback mechanics in general

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Jokes on you. I realized I was wrong long ago and just started shitposting because I got bored. I don't even browse reddit. HAHAHHAHA THANKS FOR THE YOUS BOIS

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Lets play a drinking game

Take a shot for every team with Vegeta or Black

Take two shots if they have both

SniperGod
SniperGod

just block

massdebater
massdebater

You know what grinds my gears. Dragon Rushes. I feel like I counter sometimes and sometimes I don't without pressing the dragon rush button

likme
likme

Oh no it was all an ebin troll all along!

JunkTop
JunkTop

I love (You)s
I'm addicted to YOU'S

Please give me some YOU'S!

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Are all anime games like this?
Nigga you have no idea.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Your Yous only make me stronger!

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I don't want to die

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I think it'd be fine if they lowered the regen but let the activation act as a burst.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Turn absolutely lost game around with a cheesy Ginyu swap against someone clearly better than me
Dodge the runback

Never going to get old.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I didn't play that much Marvel. How retarded was x factor? I always saw crazy ass comebacks

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You'll get used to it. Then it is just a matter of reaction.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

stronger than sparking in every way except regen, combined with the really long marvel combos meant you could come back off of like 3 hits. Also some characters could make a comeback off of block chip alone.

girlDog
girlDog

Why are his eyes so kawaii

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Bobby Hill dlc when?

Lunatick
Lunatick

unlike Sparking, it was almost aways guaranteed character death

Bidwell
Bidwell

Because he is perfect

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

GIVEMEBROLY. A name I wish to devour. I cannot wait to feast on your corpse as well as the rest of you DBZfags.

We strive to ensure the safety of the fighting game genre. We shall engulf everything within our path, moving us one step closer to the void.

idontknow
idontknow

Devour this dick

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Post erotic fanfiction featuring Akiha.

girlDog
girlDog

But he's unlocked by default

massdebater
massdebater

Does any other character have an insane assist like SSJ Vegeta? Aerial ranged with multi hit that comes in at and angle and puts insane blockstun on the enemy and leaves lots of screen clutter so you can easily mix them up?
He is so fucking useful but I really hate the character.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I feel like tien fucking sucks. What can I replace him with for trunks/frieza

Evilember
Evilember

the closest thing is cell since he does a diagonal downward kamehameha, but it's still not as good, on top of the fact that cell is really good on point. No one beats his assist though, too good for what it does.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Cell is a british bloke?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

nah he's def an australian cunt

Skullbone
Skullbone

implying he isn’t one of the better

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

i hope goku has more late DB stuff, I want power pole and nimbus shit

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Mr. Popo is a nigger.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

don't do my nigga popo like that

StonedTime
StonedTime

Beerus L combo is a free 50/50 cross up with his 2M and possibly his 214L, which turns it it into a 33/33/33

WebTool
WebTool

Beerus crossup can be blocked and mashed even on hit.

eGremlin
eGremlin

It's not free at all. The slide is vulnerable to mashing 2L

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Super not free.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Just no

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

50/50
reactable
A 50/50 has to be unreactable.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

50/50 cross up
Try a 10% cross up and only against people who have no idea.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

it's another useless 7 bar sparking corner combo episode
I wish these would disappear from my twitter feed forever

cum2soon
cum2soon

Could someone show me the correct way to use the Furry god?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

but my combo kills, builds 3 bars and only uses 6 bars

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

If you use Cell and Vegeta with 16 on point you have the opportunity to be unstoppable if you hit your opponent once.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Nappa, Tien, 16. Good order? I'm also thinking of maybe switching nappa with somebody but can't think of who.

Playboyize
Playboyize

HELLO~
I'M UNSTOPPABLE
ENJOY OBLIVION
YOU THINK A BARRIER WILL WORK~?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I can't fucking choose between SS or Blue Goku.
I like the assist Blue has with hard knockdown and his autocombo utility and all but SS Goku has the overhead special, kamehameha and flurry kicks.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Trunks. Trunks doesn't have the saibamen pressure, but his limbs + are one of the best in the game. You don't need saibamen to lock people down with trunks. His Overhead is also + on block

StonedTime
StonedTime

Gonna be honest, I meant to write I Tien. Hows Ginyu?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Yeah, that's pretty good. Nappa is a good pointman, Tien is best at mid, and 16 can definitely make Sparking work, especially if you land the self-destruct

Spamalot
Spamalot

Are other PC players having disconnecting issues right now?
I can't find a ranked match and when I try to enter a Ring Match after about 6 minutes of the players in a match don't switch out I leave the ring and then I get a disconnect.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I want a 18 and 21 team. Should I put krillin, trunks or 16 on the team?

askme
askme

Go 16 for the full android team. He's probably the best pick anyway, Trunks is nice too.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Do you have enough time to light when blocking a string and the opponent goes for fM (overhead)

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Well, the true answer is "The one you like the most" but the safest answer is 16

Methshot
Methshot

Depends on the character, if you have a good 5l doing that into aircombo is the perfect answer. Just gotta be careful if they cover it with an assist.

Firespawn
Firespawn

16/18/21 in that order good? I'm currently unlocking 21 right now. I'm really liking 16 and 18 after playing Cell and pretty much all the saiyans this is a nice difference.

King_Martha
King_Martha

18 is best on point

Lunatick
Lunatick

18/21/16

Inmate
Inmate

prove it

cum2soon
cum2soon

Search twitter bruh

Flameblow
Flameblow

youtube.com/watch?v=-BcfFD5siC0

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Sparking

TechHater
TechHater

18 can't extend pressure or combos, so if you want the team to be as strong as possible you should take Goku, Goku Black, Vegeta or 16 assist.

18 is a point character, 21 is also good on point but she's a good mid too. Think of 21 and 18 as interchangeable point characters. 16's assist adds lots of hitstun to allow you to extend combos, as well as reset pressure. You want 18 and 21 to make use of assists as much as possible. 16 won't make use of 18/21 assists that well. 16 is also top 3 characters in the game so that always helps.

JunkTop
JunkTop

corner 2 assist sparking
no moves absorbed before hand

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

tfw stuck in yellow hell
tfw can't get over the orange hump
also slip up to the green occasionally
I normally beat yellows though

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Demon rank in the game
no actual Demon characters in the game
I hope he's coming

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

this is the first fighting game where i feel like playing tons of different characters

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

think it's referring to piccolo, even though he isn't really a demon.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Post more lolis

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

He was a demon. That shit got retconned.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I don't want to go to prison

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Wouldn't "Namekian" cover Piccolo?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Put this into the OP next time you bitch ass niggas.
pastebin.com/iG5fwJMw

I came with the heat.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

thats why I said he wasn't really a demon, but at one point he was considered one.

Skullbone
Skullbone

being a leaf

TechHater
TechHater

Not really retconned. He was just called The Demon King. Nobody knew about Planet Namek.

Firespawn
Firespawn

oh shit, thanks user, that'll be helpful

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

He was a "demon king" because he was the foil of Kami the "god"

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Get rid of all those beginner guides, controls and system requirements.

No reason for the OP to be this long

Illusionz
Illusionz

close game 1 he wins
fuck him up game 2
rage quit during my killing super
So bittersweet

iluvmen
iluvmen

krillins and teen gohan's range on normals
jesus

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

What makes teen Gohan bad? Can someone break it down for me? He seems ok to me with the right assists.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I'm dumb, what do the yellow boxes mean?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

He's supposedly bad because he has bad range, an underwhelming assist, and bad DHC supers

I personally feel it's way too early to tell, though.

Illusionz
Illusionz

hes not bad, theyre memeing him because adult gohan is so much better. put him on anchor and kill anyone with just your super

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

His assist is great IF you are right beside the enemy. It comes out where you are so you can't combo off much.
He isn't very good at applying pressure and his range is bad. His optimal combos drop often on anyone not Cell sized.
He has no air supers and because of the angle of his lvl 1 he can very rarely hit off a hard knockdown.

massdebater
massdebater

nappa's down heavy is so much worse though, especially since half his normals hit them out of it's range.

FastChef
FastChef

collision you bitch

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Dhc isn't an issue if you wait a second. He appears right beside the opponent.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It's so bad that I've just started using 5H instead. It sends them into the corner which is better for him anyways.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

i knew my boy had a terrible 2h but damn

RavySnake
RavySnake

compared to the best down heavy

likme
likme

But its great for punishing super dashers and corner combos.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

That's not even all of it. There's a hitbox above him too after a frame or so

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

hurtbox past the toes

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

black goku is ironically the scrub killer
Like poetry

StonedTime
StonedTime

so the memes about not all characters are created equal was true

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

yeah, it's great for hitting above him but that forward range is awful.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Why is this allowed

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

The fact Tien doesn't have an alternative to kikoho is retarded

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

18's aerial hitboxes seems to all almost overlap with her hurtbox, or be smaller than her hurtbox

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Thats to make up for the crazy reach his 5H has. I always start the game by throwing out Nappas heavy. Its my "noob tester"

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

There's always Chaotzu, the best lvl3 in the game that can be comboed into.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I've been wondering what Clayton was sick with. Found his videos and went through a lot of them and it was interesting, but he never mentioned what he was sick with in any of the videos I watched.

RumChicken
RumChicken

arcsys has a problem with hitboxes sometimes
a SERIOUS problem

TreeEater
TreeEater

His damage is so busted without supers. He's no Cell or 21, but he's still great damage.

King_Martha
King_Martha

God, I hate him. It's not the worst character to deal with, not even remotely, it's just terribly irritating.

likme
likme

Are the hitboxes literally squares? Like, could I touch the blue part outside of the red without getting hurt?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Is there a way to hide the announcer in replays?

Supergrass
Supergrass

this bitch was the reason i quit P4A
holy fuck my man HOW IS THIS ALLOWED

viagrandad
viagrandad

dbfz tournament
people in the comments discussing league or legends skins

kek, mixer was a mistake.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

This is what makes characters top tier

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

don't use the thumbstick
Only use the directional pad
It's how the pro's do it

Wait what the fuck?
Is this true?

Playboyize
Playboyize

nvm found it

Inmate
Inmate

You newfags are honestly insufferable

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

It's easier but it's not as precise. PS4 controllers are just shit overall

DeathDog
DeathDog

pad is easier, especially for stuff like IAD

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

so we talkin' about hitboxes eh?
behold the apex of hitboxkind

Illusionz
Illusionz

He plays fighting games but doesn't have the patience for simple questions
I'm sure you're doing well, Saibaman

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Wait, I meant the reverse.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Lvl 3 tri beam is trash anyway. Not only does it hurt tien, but if you only burn the intial 3 it does a measly 3300. 4290 if you use 4 bars and lose more health. This is raw.
Compare that to anyone else, Piccolo for this example. His lvl 3 does 4095 damage.
Goku's does 4208.

Seriously what gives? The only upside I can see is if you have Tien at full health and they have 1 guy remaining with less than 3/4 health. If Tien is hurting you can't even get all the bars off.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

HAHAHAHAHAHA AN XBOX ONE JUST DIED MID MATCH ON THE SAIYAN SHOWDOWN TOURNAMENT.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

literally almost all of ginyu's normals have hurtboxes extending past hitboxes
why

massdebater
massdebater

hold my pancake flipper

Techpill
Techpill

how do I deal with goku black and agohan?
Both feel unapproachable and have really good/insane specials and I never know when I can attack after a block

FastChef
FastChef

He looks so happy

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

T. Saibaman

Tri Beam doesn't kill Tien brainlet
If you have the bar and even 1 hp he can still pull out all 7

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Sit down son. You don't know what you are saying.
Tien won't do anymore once he reaches 1 HP.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

So is health universal in this or is there a hidden defense stat?

TreeEater
TreeEater

So far it seems universal

Supergrass
Supergrass

not enough squares bucko

MPmaster
MPmaster

Despite how dumb that looks, it doesn't look busted

StonedTime
StonedTime

I wish this game had skullgirls level training mode, that shit was so helpful.

Lunatick
Lunatick

What the fuck is going on at ArcSys

This is fake

Bidwell
Bidwell

Well don't you look dumb. Saibaman.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

facing a good Ms. Fortune player was hell
he'd take you off the ground and make you his bitch
yeah, that shit had an autismal amount of time spent on it
it was so good though

King_Martha
King_Martha

You know this game was fun till the android raink...Now I just face tryhards that beat me without me getting to do anything,or fags that ragequit when I beat them...its just not fun anymore and besides ranked theres nothing to do...fuck arcade

girlDog
girlDog

Casual match

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

tryhards

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Lmao anyone got a pic of that dude with the eye patch? is he really missing a fucking eye or just being an edgelord

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Burnt out in less than 2 weeks? Take it you weren't much of a DBZ fan?

hairygrape
hairygrape

HELLO

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Get three level 6 victory zeni buffs from hard mode act 3, then go to hard mode act 3 chapter 7 and fight the Goku/Yamcha/Piccolo team and retry after every win. 5000 zeni per fight. Easy money.

JunkTop
JunkTop

It's real.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

play ranked
complain about tryhards
Also even past android there's plenty of garbage people. I've just hit supreme kai today and I don't know a single combo.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Is it safe to play Ranked yet, or will I get locked into auto-join lobbies?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

So why does everyone use anchor Black over good ol' SS Goku? Is it the pink?

Booteefool
Booteefool

They're totally different characters. What a dum post.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

They’re much more different than Ryu & Evil Ryu.

Emberburn
Emberburn

4u

Flameblow
Flameblow

ok

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

named "hello" and it's perfect

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

how do you do ginyu dhc glitch? just hold the buttons down and hit A1 or A2?

happy_sad
happy_sad

What the fuck ArcSys

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I've capped out at 140k and lost my 55+ win rate

how do I get better now

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

lvl 3 off a lvl 1
nice

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Perfect, thanks

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

tfw waiting for my local tournament organizer to say autocombos are banned so I can jump on and correct his ass

Illusionz
Illusionz

dude has Gotenks and Vegeta in his team
literally can't fullcombo 2 of his 3 characters

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Why would he ban autocombos

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

MY MAN IS GORDEN FREEZA
OHOHOHOHOHOHO
Goddamn I love Matrix/Yipes, I forgot they were streaming yesterday

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Who do you play?

FastChef
FastChef

He did the same thing for a few other games, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't know about how autocombos work in DBFZ

WebTool
WebTool

Cell usually doesn't have trouble but some of 21 and A.Gohan's shit just go right over them

viagrandad
viagrandad

I see, my usual routes work on small bodies but confirming stray hits sometimes can be a real struggle.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

This is why I love my manlet team

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Any trunks fags that can help me out? I can do this combo about 30% of the time but i dont know what im doing to make it work. Specifically the grounded S > 214L > L and in the air autocombo LL > 214L > Autocombo LLL. The ground one is a height thing probably? The air one do i need to let the beam stay out long before 214L cancel or is it a weird height thing too?

SniperGod
SniperGod

hey, thats my copyrighted lvl 1 into lvl 3 spirit ball tech. please stop using.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Record yourself failing it so we can see. That's not a joke, I'm not being a dick.

StonedTime
StonedTime

most combos like this or cell loops simply require cancelling at the earliest frame possible or using auto combo to make the character go higher/track to them. you have a huge buffer to input moves. you probably arent going fast enough.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Thats muh copyright Yamcha tech

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

seriously what is the best way to improve from here? I don't think I'm going to get much better by just grinding ranked

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

analyze why you are losing.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I don't understand how to add ki blasts to air combos. Anyone wanna clarify?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

And while we're at it why not.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Hey, I was thinking about your combo the other day and was wondering if it could start midscreen with jabs into volleyball L, extended with an assist into the rest of that combo.

Also, does that only work with Freezypop?

Evilember
Evilember

you press the ki button, then cancel into an aerial special move.

Booteefool
Booteefool

go to a room made by a pink guy
get my ass beat around ten games
he leaves
I try to shoot him a message saying ggs, and that I really liked his dirty 18 mixups, maybe ask him if he had any pointers to improve my games
he has blocked all messages on psn
Why would anyone do this? I don't understand

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The only thing i can think of is me mashing light after the flip instead of timing it

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Why is raising your threat level so much more satisfying than rank?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Predictions for evo

Team that will in the tournament:
Android 16, Vegeta SS, Goku Black

Rest of Top 4:
Android 16, Goku Black, Frieza
Goku Black, Nappa, Goku SSGSS
Goku SS, Goku SSGSS, Goku Black

Most played character in the tournament:
Goku Black

Least played character in the tournament:
Fat Buu

Lowest win rate percentage character:
Yamcha or Android 18

farquit
farquit

Usually just push LLS > special move. Few have variations on that.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

WHY CAN'T YOU DO ANYTHING WHILE YOU WAIT FOR A GAME THIS MATCHMAKING IS SHIT

whereismyname
whereismyname

goku ssgss
Nope

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Because most messages (from any game) are from salty assholes telling you to kill yourself or something.

askme
askme

but you can?

you can go to practice mode. you can do combo training.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

hes underrated. people will have really blown him up by then

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Cell point, Ginyu mid and Black will be the main team. Z-Change glitch will be most important thing in the game and easy damage. A.Gohan could replace Black.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Practiced this stuff today, timing is a bit tricky but what made it a lot easier for me was canceling the j.s not immediately into 214l and also practicing the j.l timing after. I find that it is slightly later than you would expect.

King_Martha
King_Martha

krillin or ginyu for least used in the tournament. Be surprised to see a single krillin

cum2soon
cum2soon

Because some people cant handle the batnz

Bidwell
Bidwell

That's a really ballsy call 6+ months out. DLC characters and possible balance update will come dude.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I've only played around a year of GG, this happened only once, and it's the only fg I've ever played. Then again GG has a room system that's not retarded.
Does this happen a lot in other more popular fighting games? Can't these fags just ignore them like normal people?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Sorry the ground one was choppy and slow i blame webm for retards. This is air one.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Yeah, you're doing the same thing I used to do wrong with double tapping L. The first one is too early and the second one too late, timing is just in between.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

15 mins to find a game
Connection lost

Is this a fucking joke?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Predictions for evo

SonicFox will win
Chris G, Cloud, or some Marvelfag will get Top8
No western anime players will get into Top 8

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I got it sometimes when I was playing SCV (because that game loved to drop matches just as much as DBZF).

Also, it's guaranteed if you play console shooters at all, regardless if you are good or not.

Some people would rather not deal with it at all than ignore them, and I can see why

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

youtube.com/watch?v=_LGBakqzlkU

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Thanks il keep at it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

this glitch is gonna be really abusable if they don't fix it. Can they tagged in person also call in an assist of themselves?

Supergrass
Supergrass

to make bodyswap stronger

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Oh boy

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

well, you got me there

King_Martha
King_Martha

Playing Ginyu
Bodyswap with Gotenks
Immediately regret my decision
How the fuck to people play him, he's not no fucking range.

cum2soon
cum2soon

You can also make it easier on yourself by not having as much stuff before the actual hard part when practicing. Just do something like 2m 5m 5s 214l lm mlls 214l ll2h mlls 214l lll
Lots of opportunities to get used to the timing in this combo.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Yes. Webms coming either this thread or next. I've got the one you want to proof of concept but I wanna get an ideal damage one and my hands are a bit wobbly from playing for hours. The distance from the corner isn't great though. At least using piccolo assist which is what I've got.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I can never replicate this, what is the trick to this? Is the timing tight?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

clips twitch tv/AbnegateTentativeAirGuitarFeelsBadMan

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

tfw too smart to play kid buu

Lunatick
Lunatick

Does this data mean that the casuals have given up on the game?

JunkTop
JunkTop

well, it's a still during the week. but yeah as time goes the casuals will play less and less.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

last 30 days
-32%
during the week

Flameblow
Flameblow

Ok recordings obtained. Webm production is underway. Also I have no idea. I only play this team. One sec.

It seeeems piccolo assist is too low. You don't get down to the target fast enough. Other assists, I'm not sure. Freeza's assist is actually one of the very best in the game. I use him as an anchor because both Piccolo and Tien have things I use his assist for. Also his meter use is great. Ok give me a few, webms coming.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

try to play online after hours of training in the lab
"You have been disconnected from the lobby"
It hurts bros

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Actually what i noticed is my issue was when i hit him after the 214S with MLS. If i delay M to when he is almost on the ground the combo connects 100%.

5mileys
5mileys

nah, the server problems are turning people off. i hope they make it up to the community somehow and bring them all back.

Booteefool
Booteefool

the server problems are turning people off
This is the real truth. All the normies are pissed and annoyed.

They seriously dropped the ball on this.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Alrighty, looking forward to seeing them

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

be a yellow
have fun 90% of the time
get to orange
play against a pink, he destroys me 2-0
play against a green, destroy him 2-0
play against an orange, always ragequits if I'm about to beat him
takes 10min more to even find a match, half of the people are pink names or don't accept
This game just got a lot less fun.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I-I'm a yellow with 82% winrate.
How fucked am I?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

cant play against friends

how do you fuck up this functionality? like everything else can suck and be broken, but if you can play friends, it would be fine.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Enjoy it while you can friend.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

abuse the air tornado. The tornado directions can be altered with near impunity. Also the tornado stuffs a lot of things like super dashes too,

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

0 pushback on normals
infinite blocksrings into comboable OHs for almost full damage
s.dash in blockstrings is only beaten by the 1f parry
in complete frustration, just mash s.dash while being blockstringed
it fucking works

are you serious? the universal answer to the endless a.gohan blockstrings and unpunishable s.dashes is just another fucking s.dash?

I wish I could grab a brick and go to town on whoever designed this game

Evilember
Evilember

But you can

eGremlin
eGremlin

How much time do I have left before I become a orange?

takes2long
takes2long

get into super saiyan rank
Start having to fight top 1,000 people

S T O P
T
O
P

I'M ALREADY DEAD

Playboyize
Playboyize

Only on pc

Skullbone
Skullbone

Omae wa mou orangedeiru

TechHater
TechHater

Holy fucking God. How long is this story?

Supergrass
Supergrass

7-8 hours or so

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

How do I get over my habit of never using assists?

Its just weird to press a button in a fighting game and another character comes on the screen and does a special move that costs no meter

Emberburn
Emberburn

Get a skype message
Game thinks I cheated and disconnects me before the win screen

So this is the power... Of arc system works...

Emberfire
Emberfire

Audible kek but I'm legit concerned.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Ok. Let's try this. The first bit is the corner carry concept. Truthfully, you don't get a huge amount of distance. Second bit is full combo damage. Easier to do from a setup perspective to just do in the corner. I know I know.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Same here, but I got used to the change system at least.
Assists just feel weird to me.

King_Martha
King_Martha

You think it's bad now, wait until you're mindlessly replaying it in hard mode to maximize zeni grind

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How many games you got? For me I got yellow after around 10/10 ranked matches. I was around 90/130 when it changed. I don't know how the room matches or arena matches affect it, but I had probably about 70 of those.
If I recall correctly it changes if you beat people who are better or the same color as you.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

point out that playing for cutscenes and android 21 isnt enough of an incentive to actually do the boring as shit story mode\
"hurr durr thats what you get for buying a dead game"

Skullbone
Skullbone

Fight a game named Subarashi
His team is Black, A.Gohan, Hit
Destroy him in a 1v3, I don't even have to use Vegeta or Freezer, 16 does all the job
He disconnects

These people are living jokes.

takes2long
takes2long

I was yellow after 2 games and I have 25 games, 21 of those being victories.

cum2soon
cum2soon

It's capcom. EAC is complete garbage.

Techpill
Techpill

Hmm, might not be worth for it for corner carry, but it should be okay as a corner option since you can hitconfirm into volleyball

FastChef
FastChef

A game
Meant to say "a guy"

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

/dbfz/ the Ginyu Force is recruiting new members.

NOW SHOW THE CAPTAIN YOUR BEST POSE!

SniperGod
SniperGod

After me boys! Can you handle this one?!

StonedTime
StonedTime

I think you'll be fine, for a while at least.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

doesn't miss even one dragon dash 2H punish the entire match

why are you my rank?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Bustaaaa

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

8 losses out of 8 games tonight

well I guess the community has officially gotten too good to play even casually. Oh well, I'll just have to wait for the next new revolutionary fighting game

FastChef
FastChef

But what you played NINE games?

cum2soon
cum2soon

rating goes down
start winning again
hmm?

RumChicken
RumChicken

The sad part is this is much easier, execution wise, and only does 200 less damage, and doesn't require corner.

You can say "Well you could get 200 more in the corner, dope homie" but the fact is, you're better off practicing one combo that works in both corner and non corner, that does almost as much damage for as much meter. Like, it's better to be rock solid on one thing. Be consistent.

The only reason to do my crane strike relaunch blah blah is for style points. Let 'em know you're awesome. But otherwise I'd honestly suggest just practicing this combo and be able to do it consistently.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Why would anyone ever do this? Zeni is basically worthless.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

unlocking character color, lobby avatars, unlocking blue goku and vegeta. story mode is the fastest way to make zeni.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

the actual reason this combo is better isn't execution, it's because it has a hard knockdown and only uses one assist instead of two

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Well:
Doesn't require corner
Is easier (Yeah you can practice but in the heat of the moment even pros drop stuff sometimes, and I'd always rather practice 1 thing over 2)
Uses 1 assist

The other one also has a hard knockdown I'm 90% sure.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Hmm, I'll make this one the combo I learn then. As you said, it does seem more reliable

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

16 player
bitching about a Black player

happy_sad
happy_sad

tfw secret Hit tech no one uses for literally infinite pressure much like A.Gohan
literally haven't lost in days
winrate is now 72% due to being unable to lose against pink players
This shit is whack

Bidwell
Bidwell

Atta boy, Ginyu-san. Keep up the good work and I see a promotion in your future.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

And as the guy who replied to me points out: It lets you keep your 2nd assist for pressure immediately afterwards. Hell you can easily do the knockdown, skip the extra damage, and use the knockdown + your remaining assist to go for some kind of oki/setplay which is frankly better than 1k damage.

So yeah. I'd learn this one. Advice if you're going to use the version with a super: don't overthink it. Don't try to get the right height. Do the super AS SOON as the air volleyball fist connects. The super will work. If you try to like, let them hit ground, fall a bit to get the right height, you'll just fuck it up. Super instantly and you'll land the hit.

Also, you can do up to 3 jabs before the 2m xx 236LLLA1 but it will suck about 1k damage off your combo.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I doubt Hit has infinite pressure, even Agohan needs meter. People just don't know how to reflect.
I'd ask you to share it so you can prove me wrong, but I assume it's a super sicrit tech that only you can know about.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

only 72% with infinite pressure
step it up

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

GOT MATCHED AGAIN WITH HIM
HE DCED AGAIN
HAHAHA
BLACKKEKS

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Also, you can do up to 3 jabs before the 2m xx 236LLLA1 but it will suck about 1k damage off your combo.
Man, that's a lot of lost damage. Alright, I'll try to avoid that

viagrandad
viagrandad

he uses vegeta
and 16
and adult gohan
"lmao this scrub DC'd on me am I cool yet guys"
No. No, you aren't.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Is 21 even worth it?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

She's the best character in the game.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

who pairs up with god goku well

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I use 16, vegeta, freezer you faggot. He was the one with black, gohan and hit.
black mains reading comprehension

WebTool
WebTool

She's fun

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Oh, K. I respect you for using Freeza but you still get docked points for 16/Vegies.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Plus she has tits

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

She's fun to play and will make your wee wee spew liquids.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

literally everyone

SniperWish
SniperWish

what about a third for him and frieza

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

have you considered black

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Well no. Jabs are faster. It's definitely worth using them in many situations to get the combo started safely. Again, you can do
5LLL 2M xx 236LLL A1 j.lm2H j.lm2H jc j.lm2h xx 236M
That's the full notation of the combo, by the by, if you want it.

And then you can just skip the super if you started with a jab. That way you can use the hard knockdown + A2 for some kinda oki setup. Right? If your combo is gonna scale shit, don't use the bar, instead go for the superior positioning option. If you start the combo with 2M, then you go for the super version.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

black

farquit
farquit

Ah, smart. Might as well save the meter then, especially since Tien uses health too.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I don't want people to hate me and disconnect

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

i mean, the best 2 options are him or vegeta and they'll hate you either way. plus 70% of people play black anyways. On top of that if they disconnect from just seeing your team then it's likely you'll never play them to begin with since they'll be purple names, which you should avoid.

Soft_member
Soft_member

They only hate you if they suck.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

If this system is ranked, how can so many people disintegrate me without even losing half their health on one character

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Yeah. Just use the meter if you get the 2m startup OR it'll kill them. ALSO, and this is some advanced niggerdry, don't forget you can do ultimate z change so you can skip Tien's super and DHC someone in to catch them coming down.

I tend to go back and forth between tien and piccolo so even though tien is my 2nd nigga, I usually have piccolo to play with for a while while Tien is out so I could do the combo, spike 'em, and ultimate zchange for a Special Beam Cannon. Thus preserving Tien's health, swapping piccolo back in safely so Tien can recharge his blue health, and still dropping a super on them at the end of that combo.

They REALLY built Tien to be a team player. He needs assists to link his shit together, he's got a move SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for use with ultimate z change, the air volleyball fist with the hard knockdown, and he's got the power of DHC shin kikoho for those hard to reach saiyans.

So even though he has one thing that says "make me an anchor" his entire kit, from his lack of needing meter to get respectable damage (this combo does almost 5k meterless before you add the super), his reliance on assists, and the way he's built to set up for UZC swapins... it's a really strong team play/team synergy kit.

SniperWish
SniperWish

SS Goku/Tien/??
Can't decide between Krillin, Piccolo or Beerus. Any suggestions?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

tfw you find a guy of your skill level
Intense fights are the best.

takes2long
takes2long

Goku Blue has an autocombo overhead
Did no one at Arcsys think "well y'know, maybe we shouldn't" before this?
It makes me feel dirty using him.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Just played against one and thought "how the fuck does he hit me if I'm blocking" now I understand.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I just got perfected for the first time
Whats one good reason I shouldn't uninstall this rigged game?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I'd take Beerus probably. I really like the way he plays and Krillin and Piccolo are both pretty underwhelming.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Yeah but it's really obvious when it's coming. After a few times just, you know, standing block.

Hush woman. Piccolo is great.

MPmaster
MPmaster

The one you like the most. They all have anchor potential, but Krillin can burn the meter the best with Discs

Gotta stand block

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

be yellow
never see oranges
beat yellows from time to time
destroy greens
can kill maybe one character on pinks/red
Fuck I feel the pain. I just don't really know what to get better on. I'm stuck in hell of never getting a good match. Either I get shit on or I shit on somebody

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

3rd hit of autocombo and like 400f startup. stop being shit. the low is the most dangerous part of that autocombo. get hit, get dead. leads to 6k+ solo combos for 2 bars if you dont watch your toes.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

destroy greens
why am I even being paired up against you in the first place?
How is that fair?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Krillin only if you have 300 IQ

idontknow
idontknow

Is ranked still fucked up? I have not found a match in like 10 minutes on pc.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I don't fucking know but it is annoying. Especially in Ranked. I gain literally nothing from playing someone that low but everything to lose. If I lose I lose a shit ton of points but I don't gain shit. I would rather connect to people in android rank but I never really do. I only connect to to people at frieza clan or less.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Don't get me wrong, the character itself is really cool. I just wish he was way more cheap.
It's week 2, relax. Figure out what your biggest problem is when playing good players. Do you struggle in neutral? Work on movement and spacing. Are you not getting the most out of stray hits? Learn how to convert from different hits and buffer/confirm stuff like j.ll into 2h. Can't open the other player up? Learn how to frametrap, stagger pressure, learn how to extend pressure with assists and make it worth it, don't forget to use dragon rush and learn some proper oki. Get hit all the time? Work on your patience, when to press buttons, to respect your opponents pressure and what's actually plus, learn how to properly use your defensive options as well.
There are so many aspects you can try to improve in your game if you really want to.

takes2long
takes2long

I mean he's technically just one "level" above you. Weirder is how he gets matched up against pinks.

eGremlin
eGremlin

not him but what if you have zero IQ

eGremlin
eGremlin

Tien is great at every position, i use him as Anchor to abuse the 100% combo but his normals are so good he could make great use of assists

Illusionz
Illusionz

16.

Techpill
Techpill

Fucking kek

Emberfire
Emberfire

me again, up to my 20th loss tonight now, still 0 wins, idk what i'm really doing wrong but I think I want my money back

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

people salty as fuck because they get grabbed by based 16

best feel

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I bet if you blocked low 100% of the time you would win. People at low levels get so much off run in 2M.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Honestly probably all of that. I'm going to go back and watch my games against reds and pinks.

139 hours in 2 weeks.
Holy shit I've have never played a game like this.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I do but whenever I attack I just get attacked. Its like people know these infinite combos so the second I stop blocking I eat a combo for half my health. This repeats 6 times and then I lose

viagrandad
viagrandad

I thought Id like this because I enjoy marvel but I cant bring myself to continue playing it.

hit any combination of buttons and the enemy is automatically sent flying in the air
to dash you have to hit multiple buttons instead of double tapping
only one variation of every attack. Foreward light is the same as neutral light, etc. etc.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Ive found I can beat most 16s by hanging back and blasting them.

But when they close that gap, hoooo boy hold onto your butt.

King_Martha
King_Martha

fuck this assist gimmick

nobody wants to work for their fighting game victories nowadays, everyone just wants a literal handout

who are your patrician tier fundamentals characters?

Snarelure
Snarelure

That feel when you're so good you have 100% confidence about winning against lower ranks
Granted, i'm pink and other pinks struggle against me

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

You seem to not know how to play this game or the controls. Maybe you should try the tutorial and then get back to us.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Frieza.

Inmate
Inmate

hit any combination of buttons and the enemy is automatically sent flying in the air
Not really, there are a bunch of different launchers with different properties.
to dash you have to hit multiple buttons instead of double tapping
What? You do 66 to dash or 6+hs in the air.
only one variation of every attack. Foreward light is the same as neutral light, etc. etc.
A bunch of characters have command normals, the hell are you on about my man.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

complaining about assists in a team fighting game

likme
likme

Mostly this.
He is slow as fuck and extremelly predictable, he is not good at initiating strings but really good at following them.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Its team fighting games that I'm complaining about

Its just like, whats the matter you're not talented enough to beat my by yourself with your own skill? You need TWO other free meterless specials waiting for you at all times?

Skullbone
Skullbone

block low and spam crouching heavy into autocombo on all the low ranked retards who spam dash attack. You can also play frieza and spam heavy. You'll cheese a few wins off of that at least

eGremlin
eGremlin

"Waaah this game is nothing like the other game I play"

Why the fuck did you buy it then lmao

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Freeza makes me feel like a really big idiot anytime I jump or superdash into his 236S

girlDog
girlDog

hit any combination of buttons and the enemy is automatically sent flying in the air
Only autocombos and heavy attacks launch outside of specific moves for certain characters

to dash you have to hit multiple buttons instead of double tapping
No? Double tapping is how dashing works

only one variation of every attack. Foreward light is the same as neutral light, etc. etc.
That's exactly how it is in Marvel for most of the cast

Is this bait or what?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

no one ever spams dashes they just constantly attack and never stop, so its unsafe to stop blocking even for one tenth of a second

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Tien

MPmaster
MPmaster

16 seems like he really benifits from good assists. Without them, hes still a threat, but it could be much worse.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

character is fun to play with
if I play him people will call me tier whore

what do?

TechHater
TechHater

Play them anyways.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Don't give a fuck and enjoy the salt.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Change your characters.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Lemme guess, Black or A.Gohan?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Play them anyway

girlDog
girlDog

The retard master

massdebater
massdebater

16 actually, my team is Piccolo, Vegeta and 16.

Lunatick
Lunatick

that's just not true my guy. 100% of low ranked players start the game with dash attack

massdebater
massdebater

Continue taking people to the Slam Jam

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

16 is nowhere near broken, he is good but he has clear disadvantages.
Piccolo is great but hard to play properly.
Do you play Vegeta for the assist only or because you like him?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Do you play Vegeta for the assist only or because you like him?

I wanted to play Goku at first but Vegeta seems to be a better Goku, at least from what I can tell, assist is also great.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Vegeta wishes he was this stylin

massdebater
massdebater

does anyone know the exact way to do dhc glitch for ginyu? ive been trying for like 10 mins and cant get it to work. was trying 4 bar lvl 3 milky into lvl 3 assist.

FastChef
FastChef

2 meter
doesn't even hit 5k
Nah bro, that ain't stylin' at all

Spamalot
Spamalot

If you want level 3 you: have 4 bars > do the super > start holding back and assist while the counter still shows that you have 3 or more bars > hold ginyu super.
It should do the lvl 3 of the character you wanted, and only take one bar.

WebTool
WebTool

Not sure you know what stylin' means. Like Goku gives a shit about bars. Balls to the wall baby.

Methshot
Methshot

winning match
get disconnected

RumChicken
RumChicken

is tien worth it? Chiaotzu suicide is nice but does he do enough damage to justify the health loss on his supers?

girlDog
girlDog

saiyan showdown? sean schemmel and sabat again?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Scroll up. I posted some webms and general tien stuff above. Feel free to ask questions though I should sleep shortly.

SniperWish
SniperWish

half-circle
so no wonder it didn't work for me, thanks

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

caring about shit like that
why care?

Flameblow
Flameblow

forgive my noobness but what assists work for this? Currently using trunks/tien/frieza

askme
askme

what's happening in this webm?

eGremlin
eGremlin

His damage is pretty average.
Not sure about his oki yet.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Trunks should work. Freeza doesn't. Freeza works potentially in the corner. And freeza pops up the M version because it knocks them further away. Let me try trunks real fast.

Actually, trunks doesn't work. Comes out too far ahead, the hitbox doesn't catch. So neither trunks nor freeza will work for a non corner version. Vegeta does. Piccolo does. Haven't tried others.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I've used vegeta before but I'd have to change tien to point. It also means I'll have played tien at every position

Bidwell
Bidwell

I'm personally running Piccolo/Tien/Freeza but I go back and forth swapping piccolo/tien a lot and have uses for both of their assists with eachother so...

RumChicken
RumChicken

So now that I got a hercule avatar and a player card thats aesthetically pleasing is there a point to buying capsules anymore?

Methshot
Methshot

colors

MPmaster
MPmaster

combo video
they're beating on 16
Fuck off m80. None of these combos work on regular size characters.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

More Hercule colours for maximum Champ style.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

If you buy everything Hercule is DLC

JunkTop
JunkTop

combo video
they're beating on Vegeta/Kid Buu

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Best teammates for Android 21?

likme
likme

combo video
sparking and 7 bars

TreeEater
TreeEater

combo video
it's all non-optimal trash that's 4 meters and sparkling plus assists for 5k damage
"yeah but it looks cool"

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

had to drop my old character, rate my new team

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Pls dont play with my heart user

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

phallic/10

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Runninwild please go away.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

thanks doc

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Dropping Ginyu
I'm disappointed. Cell should've been the one to go. He has the lowest dosage levels.

FastChef
FastChef

blue vegeta is taller than normal vegeta

RavySnake
RavySnake

The way character select works adds height to the characters after the first.

As you pick more characters they get more height.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Does this thread go into lobbies to fight each other? Ranked is full of ragequiting casuals or just newer players. Does it get better the higher you rank or is it like the beta where it puts you vs almost anyone? I put the game off to player other games but now that i want to play preferably people who know some fighting game basics i can't seem to find anyone. Might not help i bought it on PC over ps4.

DeathDog
DeathDog

He's closer to the screen than SSVegeta is.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I've played matches with people in here before on PS4. Just swing by around a good time and set it up. People will join you.

King_Martha
King_Martha

veekyforums.com/thread/204664716/video-games
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veekyforums.com/thread/204664716/video-games

5mileys
5mileys

Does the game explain how Android 21 has Buu's cells when Dr Gero died long before Buu ever showed up?
Yeah I understand Buu technically was on Earth this whole time, but did he know that? Was there some sort of automated program that created her, some what like Cell?