If anyone here wants to play on EU at any time, add me. I'd like some good players so I can learn something I play Gotenks/Fat Buu/Tien
Sebastian Clark
why is this a thing?
Chase Reyes
Bahh accidentally posted on the old thread... Does the game explain how Android 21 has Buu's cells when Dr Gero died long before Buu ever showed up? Yeah I understand Buu technically was on Earth this whole time, but did he know that? Was there some sort of automated program that created her, some what like Cell?
Liam Morgan
I bet 18 is seeing less play because her assist isn't offensive.
Ryan Barnes
Gero's supercomputer, i think? Don't remember them explaining it that well.
Wyatt Russell
and my name didn't come AGAIN Steam: Konanza
Gavin Richardson
so are they gonna balance this game towards something like marvel for the FGC crowd?
or are they gonna nerf everything for the casuals?
stay tuned....FOR DRAGON BALL Z
Leo Carter
It's Arc, so probably FGC
Juan Bailey
It's Arc, so they'll throw things in a random generator and the fanbase will defend it like every patch before it. There are people in this thread who will defend Krillin
Bentley Edwards
Any anons here on PS4 and have a strong defence game? Im red and red ribbon and finding myself playing too aggressively so Id like to train with someone who has a solid defence instead of shitters online who just let me do whatever I want. Wont be able to play until tomorrow though
Joshua James
discords are the cancer of fighting games and actively destroying the community. dustloop was an autistic shit hole. so was srk. but you could find information and the odd decent person that knew shit. discords are filled with mods that were the autistic no life shitlords from the forums and literally no one of note. only info they bring is some random twitter posts. you dont get matches. you dont get games with anyone. and they literally all fucking suck and barely play, if at all. so instead of one forum, you have to scroll back through mountains of one line garbage and random twitter links to find outdated or out right wrong information.
its literally cancer that no one wants any part of and you need 30 fucking different links to keep track fo it all because they are too fucking mental to let people run a forum or website.
Nolan Brooks
I really feel like they started designing Krillin before they thought of the Superdash mechanic. It feels like they wanted him to zone with jumping kamehameha waves and his directional ki blasts, but it doesn't really work when you can superdash through the ki blasts and close the distance after the beam ends.
Aaron Ortiz
They explain it in Arc 3. She was still being created during the events of the Buu arc, which is how she got Buu's DNA/Cells.
Luis Bell
the entire ki mechanic feels like something designed before the super dash mechanic.
and then they realized it might a little retarded, and now we got a neutral revolving around one-button/crossup IAD off of vegeta/lockdown assist
Blake Nelson
I am using Krillin/Tien and I need a third, my closest choice is Picoloo
any tips fellow dbzers
Luke Rodriguez
Seriously stop this shit, can we ban these
Leo Gomez
Ok so WHAT the fuck can I do in gaps of combos because fucking LIGHTS don't seem to work this is rage inducing. Especially when they LLc.MM > 6M Or string to trunks' overhead slash I can't get a fucking LIGHT of all things out so what the fuck am I supposed to do?
Chase Diaz
Give me reasons Vegeta shouldn't be an auto lock on any team I could make.
Joshua Rodriguez
reflect > 2m is nearly impossible to block for anyone.
Jace Baker
Reflect is frame 1 meaning it works the instant you press the button.
Guard cancel works wonders.
Or you can just block and wait till the string is over.
Carter Carter
Plenty of people are not playing vegeta
Christian Sanchez
He's a manlet
Oliver Jackson
>tag in enemy's vegeta >land a combo >land another combo >vegeta is dead
that's why
Brody Edwards
vegeta is good day 1 because hes easy to play and enables a lot of braindead options that require no muscle memory or actual practice to do.
many high level players do not run him at all. high level play looks like it will require 3 characters that can exist on their own, as assists have long cooldowns in this game compared to marvel. so you want people that can fight with out an assist and arent just a very good assist like vegeta.
as an early pick? throw him on any team as theres nothing to learn really. learn your point and second and then finally get rid of vegeta once those are on lockdown and you need an actual good character to progress.
like a cell goku vegeta team is super good because you dont have to think about goku or vegeta and can focus on landing cell corner loops or utilizing his million normals and special moves. once cell is on lockdown, you can focus on another character and keep one of the saiyans.
Jack Lee
Who else is currently stuck?
Started and ended the day at 280k, I need to learn me some block strings.
Sebastian Baker
Goku's level 3 is underrated.
Ryder Allen
>There are people here who think gotenks and fat buu suck as characters.
Seriously gotenks and buu are unstoppable under the right players.
Aiden Evans
Different user here, what if I like Vegeta as a character? He was my favorite in the anime and a large reason for why I got the game in the first place. Is he that bad beyond his assist?
Carson Jackson
I know Buu has disgusting resets but what's so good about Gotenks? He seemed fairly normal to me.
Oliver Edwards
How do I Tien?
Joseph Cook
What is this post trying to say? Every character has the same amount of life, so he doesn't die any faster than a different character. And he is one of the few characters with a real DP so he's actually better at defense than most. Explain yourself
Nathaniel Lee
Not him but Gotenks is a fast little bastard that can combo for days in the right hands. He gives me a stroke to fight against sometimes.
Owen Parker
blockstring-A1-blockstring-A2
throw in OH every now and then.
so play him like anyone else in this game
Dylan Myers
hes average with some limited range on moves. he does have an uppercut that is good. hes okay as an anchor because everyone is amazing in sparking (jump cancel everything, do some crazy combos, just stronger characters and it lasts forever), but hes just above a captain commando tier character for this game (not quite as bad as commando, but basically just an assist at this point).
i play him too because vegeta is my favourite character and he looks awesome and final fucking flash. from a competitive standpoint, unless you are orange-on-the-way-to-pink or pink, it shouldnt matter at all who you pick. hes not complete dogshit or anything. just lacking compared to truly good characters.
Dylan Sanders
>tag in enemy Goku >land combo >land another combo >Goku dead
Sebastian Kelly
Gotenks is trash
Juan Stewart
His reversal is super good, since it's so rare in this game. Given how few options you have in the corner, that just makes it better. and his dive kick is bitching.
Adrian Ross
Don't use his unless you need to since both Kikoho supers hurt him. Instead, use another character's super instead.
Use Chaiotzu assist exactly twice throughout the match. Third time will fail. After that it resets, but if you are using it that much, something is probably wrong.
When you have a character close to death in a combo and need a level three, opt to use Goodbye Tien instead of Shin Kikoho since it does the most unscaled damage of any super in the game and Chaiotzu becomes useless after two uses anyways.
Save Shin Kikoho for when you really need it, since it'll kill Tien really fast.
Chase Green
>What is this post trying to say? You ask why should Vegeta not always be a lock, and I explain why. If all he does is grant a good assist then I can just snap in in after a Dragonrush and gimp you of your best assist. You're also extremely limited after a snapback since you can't use assists, z change, or tag/guardcancel for a couple of seconds so your Vegeta has less defensive options making it easier to open him up, kill him, and then permanently rid you of your assist.
Colton Bell
Ahh, so the only winning move is not to play, I get you now Truly, pure arguing about the game on /v/ is the domain of real masters, untainted by reality.
Jordan Rogers
Unless the vegeta isnt a shitter and can actually fight.
Jack Bennett
Goodbye Tien is amazing. It can't be blocked. Very hard to dodge. Almost always hits them in the air. Unless they're already moving. And even then.
Chiaotzu stun is quite mediocre since it takes so long, is blockable, and REALLY scales your damage down.
Brandon Rodriguez
how many frames is 2H?
Parker Barnes
Better question: on what frame is the antiair property activated?
Levi Phillips
Both buu and gotenks can be used as rush down characters with minimal effort when compared to say Kid Buu
Wyatt Jones
That's extremely vague.
Landon Gomez
Thread is slow.
DBZ opinions that piss you off?
Evan Robinson
friendly reminder that you can deflect vegeta assist on reaction to the big obvious vegeta image flashing onscreen + his soundcue, and if you do so automatically cancel it into superdash to blow up lazy uses of it
Charles Parker
buu arc is bad
Logan Hernandez
Fucking Rose needs gutted asap give that 2h some goddamn hurtboxes and make it not beat 2ms
Xavier Martinez
Goku would have let Cell absorb 18.
Lincoln Gonzalez
Buu arc is worst arc. Super in its entirety is better than the Buu arc.
Liam Rodriguez
>Super in its entirety is better than the Buu arc Ay si amigo!
Isaiah Cook
How about stop super dashing into his 2H and make Black mains put in work instead of just letting them body you?
Adam Martinez
Im a snowmexican
Kevin Lewis
What even is that, like those guys above canada? forgot the name
Eli Rivera
If he's willing to give cell a senzu he would 100% let him power up
Jace Long
Those are inuits. Snow mexicans are just what Trump calls Canadians in general. Inuits are only into clubbing seals and eating blubber and would probably be Brolyfags
Isaiah Murphy
>implying i'm superdashing into it
Fuck no they just wing it out mid range and blow through buttons with it
Its stupid
Grayson Mitchell
>letting the villain get strong enough for a fair fight is the same as sacrificing someone who's scared out of their mind and didn't actually do anything wrong I'm sure all the other retards on reddit agree with you.
Michael Hill
opinions or just things that piss me off? because if it's things it's people casually destroying the moon like HOLY FUCK PICCOLO you're just training with Gohan and all you gotta do is cut his tail but why blow up the fucking moon? and it gets blown up again later
Austin Allen
Apologies user. I assume everyone is a shitter.
Asher Martinez
why does this game incentivize mashing so much? after every combo it's fucking impossible to meaty most of the time so you can just tech and mash
Mason Brown
You think discord is bad? Most people post shit on twitter nowadays making it impossible to search. I'm following a bunch of people just to see tech when 90% of what they post is irrelevant to me. I miss forums.
Leo Perez
Anybody who thinks Goku would have let Cell achieve his perfect form doesn't actually know anything about Goku's character.
Landon Wright
t. dubfag
Caleb Wright
fuck android 16
Aaron Hernandez
If he's willing to let Frieza live he would 100% let 18 live.
Hudson Nelson
That's some shit taste you have there
Joseph Scott
>implying Saiyan to Freeza Saga isnt the patrician choice
Christopher Morris
Hey, where'd those goal posts go?
Nolan Smith
t. dumbass
Matthew Allen
how the fuck do I deal with goku black? He stuffs every approach with his giant fucking uppercut and has some of the best ranged options in the game
Ryan Collins
How do I get good ive been labing and playing ranked all day and I feel like I just suck so much
James Campbell
Is Hit top tier or do people just don't know how to fight him?
Nathaniel Ward
Dash up, block, punish. Throw a beam assist or something to cover your approach. Both work.
Jaxon Lopez
A lot of people just don't know. I do think he's quite good though.
Gabriel Mitchell
Upload one of your matches so we can tell you what to work on.
Justin Stewart
A fair assumption but i know when I'm doing something wrong and how to diagnose a way to beat something but fuck me this button's just silly
Most 2h's don't (and shouldn't) stuff 2m's Frieza's does also, but frieza's is super punishable and goku black just gets away with it
Jaxon Young
freiza = someone tough he can fight again
18 = jobber, and not someone he already knows for a long time for him to care about anyway
Lincoln Perez
I labbed him a bit and he's less complicated than you think.
If he does the triple teleport dashes that ALWAYS winds up behind you. His non blue flashing stance can only attack in front. His blue flashing stance can hit infront with projectiles or behind you.
So unless it's one of two things he can't get behind you. So he's very blockable.
Christopher Nelson
Hit is... strange. He doesnt control like others so he cant staircase combo into anything spectacular. Hes best on the ground and mid screen. You have to have a really strong mid game to play Hit at his best and I keep trying but Im pretty sure Im too low IQ still.
Nathaniel Ortiz
Freeza's 5H is much better in any situtatuon than his 2H
Wyatt Sanders
You think? I suppose he doesn't really need to go high up.
Christian Turner
Hit's midscreen combos are nonexistent without assists.
Nathan Mitchell
How's Beerus? Who does he work well with?
David Phillips
Hell fucking no
2H has better range, does more damage, combos into better air buttons and can be canceled into 1S? (The eye laser that shoots Infront of him) to make it safe
Jace Young
People sleepin on the Venom function.
Zachary Lopez
you can't fucking block and move forward though because the control for block is fucking back and even if you do move up he's got fast as fuck normals with longer range
Daniel Garcia
Not really. He has good air combos but with Freeza you either want to get them in the corner or zone them out from far away.
I cant think of any situation the 2S eye beams are more useful than throwing your opponent to the other side of the map. Freeza isnt an air combo machine. Hes a zoner with great corner pressure.
Jaxson Rogers
2H has more area of effect in one spot and damage but also leaves a small gap between the explosion and Freeza that can leave you vulnerable. It also has longer start up frames that you can leave you wide open. As for range the 5H has 2H beat since 5H travels across the screen and can stop super dashers in their tracks without the need for a perfectly timed 2H
>In-game chat has character options the put the BT3 roster to shame >has every movie villain including bio broly and Cooler's squadron with Neizu and Dore >has tapion, fucking android 14/15, jewel, pintar(the fat guy krillin beats at EoZ), Tights, 9 forms of Goku, the pilaf gang, every Super character before the ToP, all of the saiyan forms, etc >but not a single GT related character or form I actually thought us GT bros had a chance with 1 dlc slot.
Nolan Gutierrez
how are you switching during your special?
Julian Kelly
Could you DHC piccolo BACK in?
Jace Edwards
I miss the closed beta bros, now the damage is way too high and the entire gameplan of both teams is based around not letting your opponent tag or snapping