>/pol/ copying the gays What happened to ideology?
Matthew Campbell
gee what a bold claim as they sit top of the group
Ryan Morris
And then lose to /lgbt/ 5-0
Zachary Nelson
>win >group
Mason Harris
Heavy implications that /n/ tops the group and /lgbt/ comes second there.
Wyatt Smith
Why is the thread so dead on the first day of the cup?
Hudson Nelson
>/pol/ >Coherent
Nolan Hernandez
Tell me there isn't a problem with the cup when Veeky Forums's star player is only referred to as Asian Boris and wonder why new people don't buy in to the cup
Brayden Rogers
Tell me you don't look at his model and think "Asian Boris"
Oliver Price
cup is one big circlejerk didn't you know?
Asher Smith
Who the fuck cares about your regressing a team in to a circlejerk for the host.
Ryder Green
>expecting americans to pronounce Shinichi Mochizuki
Gabriel Jenkins
That's way down the list of things holding back the cup.
James Carter
>Boris circlejerking growing bigger and bigger Thanks for fucking nothing /mlp/
Dylan Morris
No one was talking about boris til someone decided to start bitching about him.
Jaxson Lopez
why is this our fault
Lucas Flores
OBSESSED
Tyler Smith
Boris was talking about Boris.
Easton Turner
They started with their Dark Boris ref, inspiring every retard to make Boris-themed refs at every opportunity
Isaac Baker
OBSESSED
Carter Williams
There was a time when we could've put an end to the shift toward endless circlejerking. That time is past us. You're all living with exactly the cup you deserve because you did nothing to fix it when the time came to fix it and mocked the people who said it needed fixing.
Eli Moore
/sp/ can realistically win winter.
Owen Nelson
>you did nothing to fix it >we can't do shit because /merit/ ignores literally every single cup entity except their friends who parrot their opinions There is literally nothing we could have done.
Matthew Parker
trips of truth
Jacob Taylor
IT'S FUCKING TWO
Dominic Clark
We could have unbanned DF.
Jeremiah Peterson
Yeah so he could rig even more cups. What a nice idea.
Luis King
Exactly. /lgbt/ would be forced to choke on final day and let a big market team win instead.
Carson Evans
This shit is so boring, what happened?
Chase Gutierrez
>he thinks unbanning DF would lead to rigging It'd happen whether he is or isn't banned. It probably still is happening right now. Just look at /lgbt/. Retarded and super offensive goalfest tactics that just keep winning. Textbook Dragonfag.
William Carter
Here's a free tip: If you try to be cute against Veeky Forums you'll lose
Jordan Nguyen
Because fuck any team that isn't /pol/ddit bootlickers winning amirite
Hunter Parker
It's almost like the call to sack Lear was reaching a fever pitch post-Cull, but /4ccg/ decided it didn't like the mouthpieces for that who showed up to say it on Discord and the movement died.
Same for when the DF stuff went down.
Same for when comfy was on the chopping block.
All this shit is connected and created the circlejerk as it exists today. The cup is built around certain personalities who make everything about themselves in both overt and subtle ways, and these things attract more personalities who want to do the same thing. And at every step of the way, people criticized each individual step toward oblivion to try and stop the coming catastrophe, but you all chose to meme and play tribe instead of giving them your support so they were easily dismissed. The blood is on your hands, /4ccg/. Enjoy another season of circlejerking and PES17. You earned it.
Ryder Clark
Commentators stopped caring. Every game is a game. It's all treated totally inconsequentially. Your excitement is directly tied to commentary.
Jaxson Thomas
>Every game is a game damn...
Jonathan Jones
>/pol/ is the only big market Also it's not like anybody worth anything is winning the cup without DF rigging either
Thomas Ward
Oh fuck off, we shit posted our asses off. All decisions are taken on Discord nowadays. We literally have zero influence.
Henry Cook
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Brody Nelson
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Chase Foster
tell me about /a/'s chances is their group tough?
Brody Collins
This thread used to be full of team meming and shit talk before and during matches. Now it's absolutely nothing but meta talk. You guys are just making yourselves miserable. Look at . They're having fun. That's what this thread should look like minus the horses.
Jackson Lee
>/mlp/ thread more active than /4ccg/ where did it go so wrong
Jaxon King
The first game was a good example of what not to do. You had shit commentators diagnosing the new rules meta after less than 20 minutes of play and they picked a winner. No diagnosis of the actual play, mind you, which could've been interesting. Instead it was "what what? How is this happening? Guess this is a thing." Zero insight into the match. When the game started to change and the gap closed to 3-2 with 20' left, they should've been going nuts over the potential upset. They could've talked about the narrative: the back to back cup champions and group favorite up against a fledgling team that stormed the previous babby and picked up a reputation as giant slayers along the way. That's hype shit. Instead, they just commented on how uneventful the game was, how impossible a comeback was, and talked about off topic shit (thanks Craig).
They could've treated the first match like it was the final match. All the elements were there. They chose not to. That's why commentary sucks these days. People don't understand that commentating is a job and that you're in the booth to provide a service to listeners: weaving drama into the events on screen. COLOR commentary. This isn't rocket science. Craig used to understand that but it's clear he doesn't care anymore.
We don't have a discord full of circlejerking comfy fags.
Thomas Wright
Reminder
Hudson Rivera
100% agree with everything here
Isaac Davis
Maybe if you weren't such cowards and were willing to attach your names to your arguments en masse, we wouldn't have had to rely on people like BGP and Colliebro as our spokespeople, since they were among the few willing to take that risk. You don't think that made it easy to dismiss the arguments being made?
Jayden Young
This is a good post.
Jose Bailey
tell me about /u/'s chances is their group tough?
Tyler Morris
/an/ are garbage, /cm/ are an autopilot, and /int/ are mediocre bar serious >PES they'll easily make it
Michael Mitchell
meido is FLAT
Hunter Lewis
Maybe if people weren't banned or shitlisted for attaching their names to arguments people actually would.
Nathaniel Adams
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Robert Perez
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Austin Morris
>eurobeat bowl Fucking neat
Christopher Brown
Honestly this is the most striking difference between then and now to me. Comfy I can simply not watch, circlejerking I can simply not read about, but I turn on the cup and there is almost no hype in the booth. If I had to blame low viewer turnout on anything, it would be this. The eyecandy is better than ever, but there is no excitement.
Anthony Thompson
Let's be honest here: nobody knows the game, nobody knows the rules to the game, nobody cares about the games, nobody cares about these teams.
Game one was inevitability vs. a team that can't even really be considered a scrappy underdog.
This isn't a job, this is a memegrass competition. Nobody is professional enough to make this a job and the people who did got run out by shitposting.
Ayden Jones
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Kayden Sanders
Why bother. Its obvious the majority of the Managers, merit like it this way. The cup hasn't had much to do with Veeky Forums or the fans in years.
Nicholas Carter
That's an excuse for your own bad behavior and you know it.
Lear stopped listening to us because when we had the ball, we shat on it.
Julian Mitchell
Pretty good post. I was on the second game and did pretty shit too, a lot of that applies to most of the games and myself today. One example would be that I probably should have brought up that the win was revenge for /n/ after Winter 16 to fit the narrative better rather than talk about meta shit which most fans don't care about.
Gabriel Sullivan
Don't feel like being banned for having a different opinion than the majority or completely disregarded for being a literal nobody; if I really wanted to make a username and discuss the politics of a meme competition I'd just go to reddit and kill myself. Besides I didn't join the cup to become someone important or to hold debates on a memecup, I joined to help my team and make fans happy which can be difficult sometimes.
Ryder Nelson
>/jpooo/
Gabriel Nelson
>have spent 90% of the current cup day doing my own thing while i leave the stream in the background with audio on >when the commentators get excited i go back to the stream and all i feel is "well I guess that just happened" I don't know, maybe the magic is gone. I'm just not feeling it anymore, even when teams I really like are on.
Gavin Bell
>tenko tenko arigatou
Dylan Ramirez
At least you're trying to improve buddy. Work on it. You weren't shitty and that's a good start.
Jace Taylor
Dude why step up to get back stabbed by one or other clique. I barely care about the cup anymore. Its not something you should put a lot off emotion into anymore.if you are smart. Just here to kill time.
Parker Peterson
>run ancient awful longball >lose justice has been served
Nathan Robinson
>if this match was a goalfest we'd get non-stop eurobeat >and thus PES decided to give us a slurpfest
Gavin Sanchez
thanks faggot
Nicholas Hill
Have a (You) on me.
Jose Reed
SAGE
Luke Bailey
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Evan Cruz
Yay
Logan Diaz
On an unrelated note, does anyone know the source for /f/'s anthem against Veeky Forums? The "Western Winds" one. I can't seem to find anything about it.
Adam Perry
>4 years later and /4ccg/ still does nothing but whine just fucking leave if you're not entertained it's THAT simple
Juan Adams
i can't leav i'm a manager
Gavin Brooks
THE STRONGEST
Alexander Brown
Autopilot my man
Logan Jackson
I cant leave, they have my cat.
Ryder Mitchell
Happening?
Cooper Ward
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Christian Williams
This year for sure.
Ryan Howard
Gee, it's almost like cliques are the problem and maybe we could improve the cup by not acting like gossiping middle school mean girls and actually building bridges with people instead of wishing X person would kill themselves because we don't like their opinion on some issue. Might be more productive, ya know?
Alexander Fisher
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Jacob Allen
BAP
Lucas Jones
Not arguing the point man. Its just that a lot of the new people think that the cup is just a social exercise. It would change if people actually wanted it too.