Let's talk about Crime and Punishment. Do you think the majority of criminals choose to commit crimes or are put into tough situations that force them to commit crimes?
I myself am a convicted felon, though you wouldn't know it if you had met me. My mother and father were illiterate and by the time I was 13 I was homeless and living on the streets of Miami and spending time in and out of jail, fending for myself. I didn't learn how to read or write until I was 17. My mother was (is) a crack head and my father was murdered when I was 10 in front of our apartment complex over a $20 dice game. That said, I still hold myself accountable for my own actions and once I started doing that I was able to get my life turned around.
Because of all this, I'm curious as to what Veeky Forums thinks about crime and punishment.
Austin Wright
Can't we just kill all of the criminals? That would end all the crimes.
Sebastian Barnes
Most criminals choose to commit crimes because it gives them status in their sociteties, and therefore, more access to women.
The best way to fight crime is by restricting female sexuality.
Xavier Bell
When I was living on my friends couch and robbing taxi cabs I was not thinking about pussy or status.
But I do see what you are saying. However I don't think that's the case at all.
Nolan Watson
OP you have lived a curious life. What did you do?
John Gomez
Its both. Ultimately the responsibility is on the criminal because your circumstances are no excuse for breaking the law. However, your circumstances often make it easier for you to become misguided and can make crime look more attractive. That being said in a country like the USA you cant be "forced into a life of crime" unless you are literally a hostage or being black mailed. There are both private and federal programs that will give you shelter and food, so "I was starving" is not an excuse here like it is in India or some shit. And public school is free so everyone is taught the basics of right and wrong. That right there is why I have no sympathy for individual criminals, you were given the resources to improve your life, unfortunate as it is, and you didnt. However, I do encourage community and federal programs to increase education and programs that help the poor and generally try to prevent people from being in a situation where they rely on crime.
tl;dr ok w/ harsh punishment on crime as long as there are a ton of programs available so the individual clearly had alternate routes.
Gabriel Ross
nice try ISIS
Nicholas Davis
Mature courts and clearly defined laws should allow for a nuanced (or not) judgement of a crime, taking into consideration a persons history and other factors that would have play a factor.
I think the court system here in the Netherlands is okay, albeit a bit soft sometimes. Also locking people up for drugs is fucking retarded
Ryan Wilson
>homeless convicted felon with illiterate crackhead parents >Miami
Why am I not even shocked? That city should be nuked to hell and back.
Jaxon Collins
>Do you think the majority of criminals choose to commit crimes or are put into tough situations that force them to commit crimes?
Definitely the latter. But "force" is a poor choice of word. They're not forced into it, but it's usually one of the few options available. When you say "criminals," you're talking about people that get arrested for simple drug possession and the like, way too many people are in jail for drugs. Most violent crime certainly seems to be a product of your environment.
tl;dr crime and punishment is fucked in this country.
