>What we may be witnessing is not just the end of the Cold War, or the passing of a particular period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: that is, the end point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government.
>Was he right? Fukuyama himself rejected this theory, so take a guess
More like American wet-dream
Carter Garcia
>Was he right. >Unironically asking this at the end of 2k16.
Of course he wasn't. This whole book reeks of the ignorance an empire displays in its prime imperial moment. Nowadays we are witnessing the slow decay of the american empire and the multipolarization of the world.
Jaxon Gomez
>the current system is perfect, there's no space for improvement, it'll always be like this
that's pure ideology
Oliver Peterson
No, and without going into current day politics, you can see a lot of reasons as of why it haven't. There's several countries that have questioned the kind of free-market capitalism fused with a constitutional democracy that he talks about.
Michael Wood
I think you mean arrogance more than ignorance.
Jaxson Thompson
A mixture of both too be precise.
Sebastian Baker
he himself stated he was wrong, he even wrote a book on how wrong he was
Jacob Cook
>he himself stated he was wrong
So?
Christopher Robinson
what the FUCK was he thinking when he wrote it?
did the collapse of the Soviet Union really cause professional historians to become this blindingly euphoric?
p.s. capitalism will not survive automation
Lucas Gomez
He was premature. There are still many places in the world that have not developed the institutions and infrastructure needed for capitalism.
Leo Cox
...
Lincoln Jones
You're dumb and your comic is dumb.
Joseph Davis
Yes he was right and this board should be deleted
Xavier Nguyen
Democracy is shit, I wouldn't be surprised if we're cursed to live with it forever
Alexander Young
No. Kojeve was right. The "end of history" is not the triumph of liberal capitalism and democracy, but of mixed-economy and bureaucracy.
Connor Howard
>capitalism will not survive automation
The belief that machines cause unemployment, when held with any logical consistency, leads to preposterous conclusions. Not only must we be causing unemployment with every technological improvement we make today, but primitive man must have started causing it with the first efforts he made to save himself from needless toil and sweat.
Also, read this paper by MIT economist David Autor which explains why automation doesn't threaten employment: economics.mit.edu/files/11563
Ryder Jackson
>(((MIT economist David Autor)))
lmao
Ayden Sanchez
Is this supposed to be an argument?
Jeremiah Sanders
Industry experts, as in people who actually help people streamline and automate factories are talking about this being a huge issue, along with China that de automates their factories as much as they can to keep people employed, even doing making people do simple shit that was automated 50 years ago like monitor a pressure gauge all day, but hey if an MIT professor says automation is no big deal it's probably true I guess.
Oh and btw it's not just factory jobs.
Jordan Diaz
Industry experts have been saying that automation may prevent the economy from creating enough new jobs for two centuries and every time their have been proven wrong. Why should I think that this time it will be any different ?
Liam Jackson
Because automation as we understand it is a radically different concept than what it was even 20 years ago.
Ryan Harris
>implying it wasn't the same way before Lmao my man
Parker Walker
But is there any empirical evidence that supports the view that human labour will be rendered superfluous by automation?
Oliver Davis
Yeah totally man completely autonomous stores and restaurants have been around since forever rofl
ai that does legal research faster than 10 lawyers combined was always just there hehehe
Gps controlled freight trains and trucks are old as time itself LMAO
Ryan Phillips
Of course not, he was a retarded globalist. Huntington was right.
No but I love how he triggered every lefty at the time and continues to trigger them to this day, much like Ayn Rand
Joshua Price
No time in history has EVER been like my totally UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT time in history, LMAO
automation closes some doors and opens others, it has been that way since antiquity and the argument against it now isn't all that different from how it's been for a while
Isaiah Young
The title is a provocation. Marx considered class struggle as the engine of history and communism, classless, as the "end of history" With the demise of the Soviet Union, Fukuyama pretty much used this premise as banter and it worked. People got mad as hell.
John James
I think, that even Fukuyama himself is no longer a Fukuyamaist. *SNIFF*
Asher Green
>economic times >he didn't even remove the evidence he just googled "PROOF AUTOMATION WILL DESTROY CAPITULISM"
leftypol insurgents ITT attempting to spread FALC cancer and doing it badly
MIT economists > monkeys on Veeky Forums and 8ch
Aaron Edwards
That's not what he's saying at all. Work on your reading comprehension.
>pure ideology Oh, a Reddit poster. Makes sense now.
Jaxson Turner
pls tell me what doors will open when the only jobs left are a tiny pool of construction jobs that pay $40 a day to build super luxury condos for the people that own the factories, long haul trucks, warehouses, and stores all which are 99% automated
is everyone going to get a job as a meme programmer or hr consultant?
lmao
Lincoln Clark
Kek
Joseph Cox
>The only jobs are factory or retail
The thought process of a communist. Go back to wanking over your dead syndicalist wet dreams.
Nolan Robinson
No answer!
Sad!
Luke Thomas
>yfw the entire economy is going to revolve around people clamoring to make a YouTube video with a 100 million views
Isaiah Wood
Why bother giving a real answer to someone who thinks economics is equivalent to theology? Your beliefs rot away any desire you have to learn.
As I said: Go back to wanking over your dead syndicalist wet dreams.
Carter Collins
>"I have the answer but I'm not gonna tell you because you're a poo poo head" No answer!
Sad!
Brayden Torres
>Not only must we be causing unemployment with every technological improvement we make today, but primitive man must have started causing it with the first efforts he made to save himself from needless toil and sweat. Stupidest sentence I've read all day, to be honest.
Hunter Perez
Mei got
Samuel Evans
Keep replying. It makes you look worse over time. :)
DAILY REMINDER that nobody sane is pro-communist in 2016.
Caleb Ortiz
No answer!
Shifting the goal posts to something something communism!
Sad!
Anthony Hall
If you think the technological and AI revolution occurring today is in any way similar to the invention of the gasoline or steam engine then you're hopeless.
Go ahead, cite some more (((experts))) to prove your claim that the people just barely smart enough to stock Walmart shelves will be the IT programmers of the future.
Ryan Ward
Keep replying. It makes you look worse over time. :)
DAILY REMINDER that nobody sane is pro-communist in 2016.
Jackson Baker
No answer!
Shifting the goal posts to something something communism!
Sad!
Nicholas Phillips
What does communism even have to do with pointing out you're an idiot and the economists you cite are on the same level as Fukuyama in terms of bullshit predictions?
Carter Fisher
I can't believe people are still *(strawman) in *(current year)
What a fuggin retard
Xavier Parker
Keep replying. It makes you look worse over time. :)
DAILY REMINDER that nobody sane is pro-communist in 2016.
Nathaniel Morris
No answer!
He's getting desperate and posting irrelevant screen caps! He is probably gonna post a "smuggie" next because he has no answer!
Sad!
Luis Hill
>everyone I don't like is /leftypol/
I don't even like those guys and I seriously doubt they would call you out on your use of (((experts))) in the same way.
Stay a useful idiot for the elites. Maybe they'll give you some scraps when you lose your job to a computer.
Leo Johnson
Keep replying. It makes you look worse over time. :)
DAILY REMINDER that nobody sane is pro-communist in 2016.
Juan Price
>useful idiot
>>>/leftypol/
Andrew Ward
No answer!
Sad!
Jeremiah Nguyen
(((Austrian (((economics))) )))
Jack Rogers
>tacitly admitting I'm right and you are in fact an insurgent
Henry Flores
You really don't want to address the issue of what happens to the barely-literate gas station clerks, Walmart workers, and unskilled and semi-skilled laborers in general when automation eliminates their jobs, do you?
Jeremiah Baker
DEY ALL GONNA GET PHDS N SHIET
DEY ALL GONNA REVIEW EACH OTHER'S DISSERTATIONS FOR A HOT LUNCH N SHIET
Alexander Campbell
>thread discussion devolves into charging other people with being a communist
Y-YOURE A COMMIE NO- you
Zachary Morris
Hi /leftypol/!
Benjamin Perez
>anyone who opposes skynet is a commie Nice try RIDF
Evan Brooks
>Huntington was right
Get back to /pol/, your notions of intractable and unchanging cultures that just so happen to fall under racial lines don't belong here.
Nathaniel Roberts
Why are Hegelians always wrong?
Evan Anderson
Because they don't follow the logical conclusion of their own premises.
>One of the oddities about Hegelian philosophies of history is that, having set up this repeating process, their proponents almost always insist that it’s about to stop forever. In the full development of the Marxist theory of history, for example, the alternation of thesis-antithesis-synthesis starts with the primordial state of primitive communism and then chugs merrily, or rather far from merrily, through a whole series of economic systems, until finally true communism appears—and then that’s it; it’s the synthesis that never becomes a thesis and never conjures up an antithesis. In exactly the same way, Fukuyama’s theory of the end of history argued that all history until 1991 or so was a competition between different systems of political economy, of which liberal democratic capitalism and totalitarian Marxism were the last two contenders; capitalism won, Marxism lost, game over.
>Now of course that’s part of the reason that Hegelianism so reliably generates false predictions, because in the real world it’s never game over; there’s always another round to play. There’s another dimension of Hegelian mistakenness, though, because the rhythm of the dialectic implies that the gains of one synthesis are never lost. Each synthesis becomes the basis for the next struggle between thesis and antithesis out of which a new synthesis emerges—and the new synthesis is always supposed to embody the best parts of the old.
>Given the track record of Hegelian thought when it comes to history, a flipped coin is a better guide—use a coin, and you have a 50% better chance of being right. Outside of mainstream macroeconomic theory, it’s hard to think of a branch of modern thought that so consistently turns out false answers once it’s applied to the real world.
>insurgents desperately attempt to spread streams of leftist thought to a board that doesn't want it
jej
Kevin Bell
Who are you quoting?
Also, not an argument. You still haven't offered an explanation for what happens to those low-skilled, low IQ minimum wage workers when they lose their jobs to automation, btw.
Evan Hughes
>insurgents desperately try to spread streams of robot propaganda to a human board that doesn't want it. wew
Nicholas Harris
>DUDE LIKE WHAT IF NO COMMUNISM MAN
Lucas Bennett
Not an argument.
Tyler Wood
Fuck off globalcuck
Brody Nelson
Huntington may seem to be onto something on the surface,but in the long run is too ignorant of culture's changability
Angel Myers
yeah both would work
Ryan Davis
it's stupid becuase it's supposed to sound stupid. read the first part of his sentence
Nicholas Robinson
>was he right
By god I hope not
how incredibly disillusioning
Brody Green
Oh god, not this faggot shit again. No, history is not linear, and every civilization falls eventually. One day, the west will be in total political disarray with various Caesars trying to gain control over the entire planet. Read Spengler sometime.
Dylan Mitchell
>history is not linear >it's actually perfectly cyclical instead!
pls go
Jason Kelly
very clever desu, makign sales off of being wrong.