Was napoleon an alpha or beta male?

was napoleon an alpha or beta male?

>manlet

you tell me

>inb4 the cries of the whimpering frenchmen "b-but he was 5'6" and that was average back then!"

still 5'6" cry harder

he was 5' 8" and stooped his neck

also he defeated tons of "alpha males" (tall white guys) so that makes him alpha

I don't believe in the alpha/beta dichotomy.

"Alpha/beta" meme is bullshit. It came from a study about wolves, not humans, and even that was eventually revised.
Even so, "beta" doesn't mean complete loser, that would be "omega". Beta means second in command, a powerful member of the pack that is in line to take the alpha's place.

He was a proper big don but not an alpha

this fuck you OP

fine, was napoleon a loser

This, now pol, int, r9k pls go and stay go

>conquers most of europe
>every single other empire gangs up on him but he braves the odds
>the Coalition battle plan literally RELIED ON avoiding fights with Napoleon and getting their victories elsewhere
>lemme repeat this, the Strategy by which the Coalition won specifically stated that people should stay the fuck outta Nappy's way because otherwise they'd be crushed
>banished

>comes back
>soldiers love him so much that they abandon their previous duty and go join him
>conquers most of europe. Again. More outnumbered this time
>braves inhospitable campaigning weather in nonpermissive environments to capture the largest empire in Europe
>outnumbered many times in his biggest mistake ever, but perseveres nonetheless
>He steamrolls the Russians, forcing them backwards for many months in their home terrain
>the Russians literally give him their city

Sure, Nappy didn't win the russian cmpaign. He lost badly. But the Russians were forced to give up Moscow. jn meme terms, he cucked Russia before getting his face pushed in and being forced to retreat.

Idk, is he a loser?

He married a prostitute, so yes he's a beta.

>He lost badly.
>Idk, is he a loser?
uhhhhhhhhhh

Also just to cap it off

>LOSING in Russia scares Europe so much they form a Coalition again
>Europe fears his man's tiny 120,000 force of cripples tramping away from Russia so much they all have to gang up on him just to gain an advantage.
>defeated by the Prussians (the english were there too) and banished.
>his soldiers all volunteer to be his homour guard to the middle of fucking nowhere

Veteran soldiers who would've made a fortune in officer's commissions if they'd stayed home all volunteered to keep him company on some godforsaken rock. Grown men, hardened by dozens of campaigns and the slaughter of tens of thousands literally wept when their Leader sailed away.

Does that sound like an """alpha""'" to you?

You have a point. The retreat from Russia will always be Nappy's lowest point.

>It came from a study about wolves

it came from captive behavioral studies.

biologists studying wild wolf packs were never so decisive on the subject. David Mech's findings were criticized in the day and now nobody takes them seriously aside from dog trainers like cesar millan (read: con artists peddling pseudoscience).

the wolf 'alphas' are simply the parents of the pack. most wolf packs are just extended family bands. their role is not of strict leadership in the wolf society but of general guidance, and oftentimes non-alphas (or sons/daughters) will lead the pack. when the sons get old enough they go off to form their own packs with a lady wolf and become their own 'alphas'.

this entire idea that natural wolf society is a big struggle for dominance from the top is bullshit peddled by dog trainers who want you to donate shekels to their scam.

but then he divorced her and married his defeated enemy's daughter.

Only when he made her Empress and found out she couldn't give him kids. What a cuck.

Napoleon was the Hitler of his day. The number of parallels is remarkable.

and hitler was the elliot rodgers of his day

makes you think

t. anglo

I'm spanish actually

man had an entire beethoven opus dedicated to him, you tell me.

dedicated and then undedicated

he was an alpha like hitler and /r9k/ shitposters
really makes you think... huh...

>Napoleon-Hitler comparisons
>2016

come off it guys, they had literally nothing in common other than being male and wanting to conquer Europe.

which is a pretty fucking large category when we're talking about European history

they had a lot of the same personal mannerisms

Napoleon and Hitler were the same person just in different centuries

>man had an entire beethoven opus dedicated to him, you tell me.
From wiki:
>I was the first to tell him the news that Buonaparte had declared himself Emperor, whereupon he broke into a rage and exclaimed, "So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of Man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!" Beethoven went to the table, seized the top of the title-page, tore it in half and threw it on the floor. The page had to be recopied, and it was only now that the symphony received the title Sinfonia eroica.

How tsun

He was a beta and obsessed with Caesar like an autist. However once he understood how normies worked and how shit women ate he had no trouble becoming their leader.

>caring about height

the smell of a butthurt bong

manlet detected, when will you learn?

being a manlet is the way for self-improvement

>caring about height

Beta because he was a manlet. If you're below 6' might as well off yourself.

t. perfidious albion

Mentioning Hitler with Napoleon is a sure fire sign of someone that knows nothing about Napoleon.

challenge this "manlet" and then you'll see how will learn kek

I'll never understand anglo obsession with height.

the ultimate beta male

You niggers realize he was taller than poopington right?

He looks like anime

Was it autism ?

>born in corsica as a proud italian
>1 year later get conquered by france
>get brainwash to be french
>everyone actually believe this
>the only good french general was italian
beta as fuck

>>the only good french general was italian
That'd be dismissing the other fantastic french generals of the time, who plagued the other continental powers with defeat when Napoleon was known as nothing more than an artillery general at Toulon (Massena, Ney, Davout, Soult, etc...), and the other french generals across the ages.

>born in corsica as a proud italian
>1 year later get conquered by france
Conquest of Corsica: 1768
Birth of Napoleon: 1769
It's sketchy but it works.

do not mistake his beta-rage for being alpha. Alexander was alpha, Napoleon was a bit of an aspie.

Napoleon only went autismo during his campaign against russia
everything else was fairly reasonable

Fascinating Veeky Forumstorical discussion chaps.

Really makes you think...

...that Veeky Forums should be shut the fuck down for being totally fucking riddled with shitposting morons.

Good fucking thread OP now go kill yourself.

He's doing it purposely m8. No way he can be that ignorant.