/fog/ - Fallout General

>People who hold ridiculous beliefs don't want them dragged into the light and examined. But I wrote an autism pastebin to make it easier for you guys to read it and propose arguments based on it.
What a bunch of bullshit, people do this all the time. It's my fucking job to talk to people and write down the things they say, and bullshitters whether they know their bullshit is bullshit will take every opportunity to try and show how they're right if they think they're right.

> You say that I'm crazy and my beliefs are stupid
No I didn't say you were crazy, but your beliefs are clearly wrong and stupid, and it's all because you're in love with the character you defend day after day.

>but you never actually simply demonstrate so
You do this for me.

You are not crazy, you just have wrong beliefs.

new vegas just crashed on me :s

>STILL not just showing that I'm wrong

If Cait was in Fallout 3 or NV, her alignment would be Evil.

I just crashed in your house :3

>But I wrote an autism pastebin to make it easier for you guys to read it and propose arguments based on it.
You mean the fanfic pastebin with nothing to do with the game?

In New Vegas I took the Ceasar's Legion route with Wasteland Messiah alignment the whole way.

>Player: The teams would also beat the spectators to death. That's how the term "spectator sport" got started.
>Cait: Now that's my kind of action.
That's one example of her admitting that she would get her kicks from spectators at an event getting killed.

>people show him that he's wrong every time this happens
>he denies and scurries around all of it, blinded by his bias
>several posts go by, people simply get tired of kicking the dead horse
>"STILL not just showing that I'm wrong"
>even though people have done it many times
>repeat the cycle
Dude, you're as blind as a fucking rock and way too horny for Cait to accept whatever everyone in the room is trying to tell you over and over and over again.

He's just begging us to stop giving him attention

GILL SDRELOK LEL XD

>him

Oh please, alignment was totally jacked up in New Vegas.

>Kill millions of fiends
>Instant JEESUZ status

Fuck I accidentally gave Piper pink hair, how do I fix this mess?

shoot her in the face.

Goes door to door trying to convert people to Mormonism

I'm blind then, I missed the posts. Last thread? I'm scrolling through it right now and don't see the posts you're referring to, where they demonstrate that what I'm saying is untrue. If you could link me I would appreciate it, maybe appchan is malfunctioning and hiding posts from me or something.

If baseball games turned into brawls where everyone dies, I wouldn't attend. If baseball games turn into brawls where everyone dies, and I purchase a ticket and hop into my seat, I'm consenting to the brawl, and am spending my resources and time towards joining.
The baseball players and the stadium owners and operators are all not at fault for people dying in this case.
Cait reports that she would be happy to participate in this sport.

>Cait: I don't understand these Minutemen. Why the hell would you bother helpin' a bunch of lowlife farmers and settlers for free?

Both are wrong desu
you have to read the whole thing and a person who studied the original text on hebrew or greek to get the real context

delet this picture

>tells you not to feel bad about killing the Railroad
>says Danse should have been killed
>hates synths

>if baseball games turned into brawls where everyone dies, I wouldn't attend.
Something tells me if the first ever "baseball game spectator brawl" broke out and Cait was somehow in attendance she wouldn't have any reservations about the whole thing. She's just openly admitting to enjoying violence whether it's against participants or spectators. That's wrong, and immoral.

>nearly 666
Yeah, I'm not believing you

Go fuck yourself

That's what I'm saying. Like, I can see where Caitfag is coming from she's more amoral and chaotic neutral than flat out evil for one, but the alignments in New Vegas were so fucking jacked up that it was nonsensical anyway.

You could be a mass arsonist psychojet-addled crazy person and still have a positive alignment.

Moe describes that as how baseball was played, not an incidental like the riots/celebrations/fights we get in real life now. He read a news article about the riots/celebrations/fights we have in real life at soccer games, and he thought that was the game itself. So when he presents the game to you and cait, he describes it as a game where everyone fights each other. Cait expresses interest in this game, because she likes brawls and fighting and violence. But if that's the game, then naturally, everyone present would like brawls and violence. So she is neither out of place, nor is she doing anything outside of what baseball is about, according to Moe.

Cait wanting to punch people and box and fight and stuff is not immoral. Fighting and even killing people who sign up for a blood sport is also not really immoral, but I think the sport itself might be but that's a different conversation. The point being that if someone consents to a bloodsport, and you kill them during it, then it's not murder. The gladiators in the roman Colosseum never sinned, to use a real world example. Especially because most of them weren't there by choice (but that, too, is a different conversation).

She doesn't hate synths. She hates infiltrators. She is fine with Glory and even speaks positively to her, for example. Because Glory doesn't lie. She does hate synths who pose as other people.

She tells you to not feel bad about killing every faction, because she doesn't like joining any faction (until the specific case of joining the BoS but only specifically after the prydwen arrives). She says the same thing about every faction.

She disapproves of (most) actions where you put yourself at risk for other people. Thus, she disapproves of you risking yourself for Danse. I dislike this trait, and think it's immoral to throw others under the bus for yourself. This is a flaw in my opinion. Cait is flawed. But this was never about her being perfect, only about her being net positive.

>go to /qst/
>0(zero) Fallout active quests
What the fuck

>Fighting and even killing people who sign up for a blood sport is also not really immoral
You don't know why people sign up for these kinds of things. Could be desperation, could be slavery, could be anything. That means you can't blanket the entire thing in the "oh, it's all optional" cloud of fart. Do you even comprehend the world Bethesda is trying to portray? It's a world of desperate people doing desperate things. I don't think I even have to tell you how Cait's approval and disapproval system spells her own character out loudly.

>but I think the sport itself might be but that's a different conversation
Kek, this is the same conversation we're having right now.

>She doesn't hate synths. She hates infiltrators.

>"Synths are nothing but Institute lackies in sheep's clothin'."
>""Careful, synths are bristlin' with Institute tech. No tellin' what they might have up their sleeve."
>*after executing a synth* "God, I thought that thing would never shut up."
>"Roundin' up a bunch of escaped synths is about as much fun as catchin' radroaches. Hope you have fun with that."
Clearly if you're going to compare escaped synths in the Railroad to roaches you already give people a clear idea of how much you care. You can slaughter the Railroad and Cait gets a kick out of it.

>She tells you to not feel bad about killing every faction, because she doesn't like joining any faction
...so what? Some factions are good and you SHOULD feel bad about killing them.

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Im looking for some help right now for NV. I'm using the Beware of Girl type 3 body replace and everything works fine, except for the hands. The fingers look like long claws with even long nail. They wrap almost entirely around and kind of rifle and the joints are all thin and broken. Is there any fix for this? I'll include my load order here: pastebin.com/6TjF3iay

Is there a lore reason why energy weapons are so common in the Commonwealth? Out west and in the Capital Wasteland people are killing eachother primarily with sticks and rocks and shit while the Commonwealth is so loaded with energy weapons that even the ragtag band of rebels can manage to rig up improvised crank operated laser weapons. Did I miss out on some world building, or did Bethesda just forget to explain it?

BYZANTINES 2.0.1

Hey caitfriend
how do you rate the fallout board game?

I would enjoy delving into the reasons behind why every participant is at the combat zone, that sounds like fun to think about for us, but that's asking too much of the people in-universe. Cait wants to die, and Cait likes fighting. A bloodsport ring happens to exist. It's not much more complicated than that, for her. I don't think it's immoral to participate.

Those quotes do not conflict with her hating synths that pose as people. She hates synths for the same reason everyone hates synths. They were made by the institute to replace us and kill us all, according to wastelanders. This is the actual belief that is prevalent among wastelanders. They aren't aware of free synths, and free synths are most likely just another lie from the institute to help them infiltrate. This is all said by Des when she talks about the wastelanders being just as much a threat to escaped synths as the toot itself. So Cait is operating off of what she thinks to be true. She is just another wastelander in terms of knowledge of synths. They don't think free runaway synths exist.

Wastelanders are at war with the institute, and "escaped synths", otherwise known as the institute's newest ploy to get synths into their ranks, should squashed like bugs.

However, this changes when she meets glory, who she does approve of. She approves of Glory because she is just glory, not an infiltrator, and glory acts like she is tough and doesn't take shit from the toot, which are things Cait likes. She also approves of glory because glory doesn't ask the player to run around and do stuff, glory is another agent like you. Cait simultaneously approves of Glory and disapproves of Des, because Glory is like you and Des is an authority figure asking things of the player. And we know Cait disapproves of people asking the player to do things for them.

Even I get on with it and finally finish my art
Odd I fuck around in NV some more

I never get odd when I roll for these things

Even I play fallout 2
Odd I play fallout 3

Enjoy your ghosts

oooOOOoooooOOOooo my loockeettt OooooO

best quest ever

I have Combat Zone Restored as a permenant addition to my game, because buggy as it is, it enhances her recruitment.

Just testing what happens if she wins, I let her beat me... to death, even though Tommy said this was just to knockout. If you beat her she defiantly (with a hint of pleading) asks you to finish it. Then Tommy cuts in, and the recruitment goes on as normal.

I always wish I could kill Tommy. Whether he has a soft spot for her or not, he isn't a 'slave' of the raiders, as the restored content makes clear. He's just a fucking coward who sees money that can be made from a clean Cait.

I'm gonna finish it this afternoon. It's great so far. It has little quests you can do, and there are about 300 quest cards. Each one has 2-4 options on what to do, and will say "introduce card number 179" or whatever when you choose that option, so you put the new card out that will also say that same sort of thing. So it's kind of like playing the videogame with quest resolutions and stuff.

The materials are pretty good, but that's standard since Fantasy Flight games is a big company known for dice and cards and cardboard and books and stuff that feel good and feel like quality.

My only complaint is that all the characters function very similarly. They all have 16 max hp, and they all start with 2 ability scores to distribute, and they all have the same carry weight and all deal the same ranged/melee damage and all that. The character creation process is good, and allows for options and choice, but between each other, mechanically, they are pretty similar. Most of the differences arise in how you level them. So I guess starting at level 1, they had slightly different stats. One is a super mutant, while another one is an Ellie Perkins looking lady. But they both deal and take the same melee damage, for example. Until you add a point into the super mutants Strength special stat, so he gets reroll his Strength related checks dice, while she doesn't. But then she gets a point in Strength and then she can do it too. So eh. But then again, what I'm advocating is more rules, and it already took me like 4 hours to set up and read before I started playing, so making it more complicated might not be smart.

All in all it's great. I play a lot of boardgames and this one seems to be great quality.

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>I would enjoy delving into the reasons behind why every participant is at the combat zone, that sounds like fun to think about for us, but that's asking too much of the people in-universe.
Wow, that's a wonderful deflection there. Don't want to address that a violent blood sport might have unwilling participants? Maybe your wondering if the love of your life would even care?

She states outright that she could give a fuck if the SPECTATORS of events like these die, and does not indicate in her dialogue anywhere that she would have a problem with these people being innocent or not. You ARE really a bundle of cognitive dissonance, Jesus Christ.

It's a competition and people join it. She enters from the other side and punches them until one of them die. It's not deflection to say that people in-universe don't think about these things. It's actually the case that people in-universe don't think about these things.

In the case of Moe describing baseball, we already went over that. In the case of the Combat Zone, they're all raiders who seem to jump in the ring when they feel like it. If you propose an example of a case where there are unwilling participants, or participants are being coerced, we can examine it. But I'm not aware of such a case, in Moe's description or in the Combat Zone. If it's not in the game, then it's not deflection to dismiss it. Cait hasn't encountered a fight where there are unwilling participants, so I guess we can speculate on what she theoretically do, but that's a different conversation.

>It's a competition and people join it
Is it always willingly?

>It's actually the case that people in-universe don't think about these things.
What are you even trying to say here? Don't think about what things? The thought of an unwilling participate joining the fight? Plenty of moral characters could think about that...

> If you propose an example of a case where there are unwilling participants, or participants are being coerced, we can examine it. But I'm not aware of such a case
Fuck you, it's the possibility of that happening that's the problem. You said it yourself, fucking raiders run the joint.

> If it's not in the game, then it's not deflection to dismiss it. Cait hasn't encountered a fight where there are unwilling participants, so I guess we can speculate on what she theoretically do, but that's a different conversation.
What makes you so sure there aren't unwilling participants? Hello? We're talking about blood sports run by murderers and thieves. Let's put your thinking cap on for just a second.

According to the fallout 4 videogame, yes actually. It is. What you have moved on to is not featured in Fallout 4.

Cait kills raiders in the ring, and that is it as far as participants and spectators go. Tommy is the only non-raider in the room.

If we move outside the game itself, and assume that raiders throw some farmer in the ring because they make him do it or else they kill his family, then I don't know. A raider probably would kill him. Cait would probably kill him if she didn't know. But I could see Cait saying "this is stupid" and not fighting. The reason I believe this is because she has shown that she doesn't like stepping on the "little guy" in things, and when people play with people weaker than them, Cait doesn't like it. Probably because she was a kid when a lot of her bad stuff happened and she can relate.

If the farmer says "yeah, this is dumb" and the raiders shoot them both, they die innocent, and the crime is on the raiders.
If the farmer says "now's my chance" and stabs her, she dies innocent, the raiders are guilty, and the farmer is in between them with some blame.
If the farmer says "now's my chance", and Cait defends herself and kills him, she is innocent, and the raiders are guilty.

The questionable scenario is if the farmer doesn't fight, the raiders say they'll kill them if they don't fight, and Cait does kill him. In that scenario, the raiders are guilty, and Cait has some guilt. Telling someone that they should die if someone threatens to kill them if they don't do something is a hard thing to ask of someone. If someone threatened to kill me if I don't do [thing], then I just say ok and I die. But that's because I choose that course of action. You don't reasonably expect that out of most people.

But notice the trend. In all of these hypotheticals, the raiders are guilty, and the farmer and Cait vary throughout each scenario in being guilty or not.

Even in these hypotheticals, there are details to consider.

>probably wouldn't kill a farmer that she always stated is a lowlife and doesn't deserve any help
Probably wouldn't? Why wouldn't she probably do anything? Just going by her in-game dialogue it's clear as day she doesn't consider people to be innocent or deserving of help.

I'm going to check more info about it, but it sounds good for my rp group of 4

She does not believe in risking yourself or spending your resources to help people.

But remember that she's at the combat zone for two reasons. The first is that she likes fighting, and the second is that she wants to die. She gets neither of these things from some farmer, so she might say "nah, this is stupid" and wait around until an opponent who will provide a fight, or who will provide a chance to kill her, shows up.

She also dislikes people in positions of power taking advantage of smaller people. She seeks to be the one who is more powerful than others, and approves of the player doing the same. So beating up some farmer conflicts with this.

So there are a few reasons why she would just think it's stupid, and say something like "give me a real challenge" when faced with just smacking around some farmer.

>She gets neither of these things from some farmer, so she might say "nah, this is stupid" and wait around until an opponent who will provide a fight, or who will provide a chance to kill her, shows up.
Or she might just kill the worthless farmer who doesn't deserve anything.

>She also dislikes people in positions of power taking advantage of smaller people.
Except you can routinely do just that to people through intimidation and threats and she loves it.

>She seeks to be the one who is more powerful than others, and approves of the player doing the same. So beating up some farmer conflicts with this.
No it doesn't.

>So there are a few reasons why she would just think it's stupid, and say something like "give me a real challenge" when faced with just smacking around some farmer.

You didn't give any reasons as to why she'd say this.

>tfw you waifufag so hard you push your own headcanons onto the character

So anons, let’s hear your headcanon.
It’s 5 years after the end of the fallout 4 main quest - What does your commonwealth look like?
Things that are noteworthy
>did any major factions survive?
>are they hostile?
>who controls Boston?
>do you have a military force? What’s it geared in?
>what’s your policy on Synths?
>what about ghouls?
>what minor factions would you work with?
>what are some major settlements? (3)

>did any major factions survive?
Institute, I never started the minutemen quests.
>are they hostile?
Yes.
>who controls Boston?
Synths who dont know who's human anymore.
>do you have a military force? What’s it geared in?
toilet armor and trench coats
>what’s your policy on Synths?
They dont know
>what about ghouls?
Slave workforce
>what minor factions would you work with?
We leave the children of atom alone and we work closely with the Giddyup Buttercup factory mutants in the research and development of better Giddyup Buttercup gear.
>what are some major settlements? (3)
Non existent.

Playing new vegas. Is it viable do a 'big fully automatic ballistic weapons' only playthrough where I only use the minigun, Avenger minigun, SMMG, K9000, FIDO, LMG, Bozar and the automatic rifle?
Very early in the game I would use the 9mm/10mm smg until i get the LMG.
Also I would use power armor late game.
I always thought that there should be a 'big guns' skill category on new vegas since it's my favorite skill from the originals.
Also what mods should I use for that playthrough besides the obvious ones?

She thinks most people are shit and don't deserve anything. Because they treated her that way. But she doesn't seem to go around killing people.

We also see that she does stand up for some people. For example, she commiserates with Billy when Bullet tries to buy him. She definitely sides with Billy, and gives you shit for selling him. So it is clear that she does have a certain "type" of person that she does stand up for. It seems to be people around her age when she was sold, and who are taken advantage of by people, like she was. So if some farmer is being taken advantage of by the raiders, and he's some weak dude who she sees to be like Billy or even herself 10 years ago, she would object in some fashion.

Cait approves of the player intimidating people, or even fighting and killing them, if it shows him/her being the powerful one. She seeks to be this, and partner up with this, so that she can be the opposite of how she was when she was the one being taken advantage of. This is basic psych. But, as stated above, she has a "type" that she stands up for.

I want to be a good videogame player. Putting a controller in a parapalegic's hands and beating him at the game does not work towards this goal, nor does it make me feel good. Cait wants to be powerful, and beating up some farmer neither trains her towards this goal nor demonstrates this goal.

user.....the post you quoted is the reasons why she wouldn't want to fight some dumb farmer. Reread the post I guess?

Nah bud, you're too deluded to continue with this any further. Just know that Cait is actually a pretty awful person, and your self-righteous moral attitude really conflicts like that. You get after Kellogg for continuing the path towards violence and apathy, yet you see Cait and have the complete opposite reaction.

The two characters are quite similar in many aspects you purposely ignore to continue your weird infatuation.

On my ultra nice character
>minutemen, railroad sorta dispersed, BoS ditched back to the Capital
>boy scouts level of kindness
>largely independent but minutemen in larger settlements SS has built up also act like police
>Well kinda? Got the numbers and the artillery, normal leather or metal armor?
>if they're just sterile copies of humans with nonorganic bits inside, they deserve a chance like everyone else
>Just irradiated humans, several in the minutemen but they sleep in separate dorms in case they go feral
>anyone that needs help
>Starlight Drive-In, The Slog, Egret Tours Marina
On my a-hole character
>Institute, minutemen barely started up
>If you do anything that obstructs her and the institute, yes
>Institute
>huge army of synths and the plastic they were built in?
>property
>couldn't care less
>Nuka-world raiders
>does nuka-world count? and sanctuary

How are they similar?

Tragedy is unfairly inflicted upon Kellog, and he runs around the commonwealth doing it to other people.

Tragedy is unfairly inflicted upon Cait, and instead, she wallows in the Combat Zone wanting to die.

These are not the same, at all, and Cait's reaction is significantly more desirable from a moral perspective. Joining the minutemen and actively preventing such things from happening to others is "ideal", but that's asking a lot. Not everyone is Prestonius Garvacious.

Barbaric and most definitely Thracian. You’d make a fine general.
Reasonable and believable. Great job user.

>Tragedy is unfairly inflicted upon Cait, and instead, she wallows in the Combat Zone wanting to die.
And then she goes with you and gets kicks out of selfish actions, murder, theft, violence, intimidation, mass murder and genocide. She's literally a worthless cunt from a real moral perspective, one in which you bend to your desires.

Cait likes it when you kill Ashes and that's literally all you need to know about her character

Caitfag eternally btfo

>did any major factions survive?
Yes, the Institute
>are they hostile?
No
>who controls Boston?
No one, its all in ruins
>do you have a military force? What’s it geared in?
Not anymore. no need.
>what’s your policy on Synths?
Gen 1 and Gen 2 will be largely used for servitude and manual labor. Gen 3 are outlawed.
>what about ghouls?
Gone
>what minor factions would you work with?
They have been all vanquinshed.
>what are some major settlements? (3)
No settlements left. Life only exists in the Institute now. Plans to repopulate the overworld are underway.

Well... it's what father would've probably wanted

So she likes killing people who think they're hot shit?

Ashes is a cat

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Seems unnecessary

Cait approves of killing Ashes for the same reason she approves of telling Billy his parents are dead. These are harsh lessons that serve to yank these people out of blissful childhood and into "the real world" (as she sees it, colored by her own experiences).

She believes these lessons would serve these individuals more than coddling them.

I happen to disagree with her, and I like the good feelerinos of returning Ashes tot he vault, but it's important to note that Cait isn't giggling to herself like a crazy person while killing a little girl's cat. She sees it as a lesson that serves Erin better than just returning the cat and letting Erin go on thinking people are nice, which might lead to more trouble down the road. She wants Erin to be wary of people. So, while I disagree with Cait on this, I understand how her own past makes her think this, and I understand that it's not some psychopath thing about wanting to kill cats.

The reason I believe this is what she says when you tell Billy his parents are dead. "Get used to disappointment, kid. It's the way the world works". This is her attitude towards Erin and Billy. Her experiences lead her to believe this is a lesson these children should learn, and it's better now under controlled circumstances than later on when it could get them killed.

My point is that she has flaws, things that have been piled on her from her time with her parents and with raiders, but that she has a surprisingly good moral compass despite it all. She likes some things that are just lame, like stealing. But there are some fundamental things that she chooses to do in her life that set her apart from your typical raiders, and indicate that she has good in her. She would be off raping and pillaging if she didn't have this core good in her. That causes her to want to die instead of join the raiders around her. That causes her to not just stab you at night and take your stuff, but instead take the chance on you.

>Cait approves of killing Ashes for the same reason she approves of telling Billy his parents are dead. These are harsh lessons that serve to yank these people out of blissful childhood and into "the real world" (as she sees it, colored by her own experiences).
Yeah so she's literally a worthless immoral cunt glad we could finally establish this.

Warning a kid that there are bad people in the world by giving them a poignant lesson isn't immoral.

It's not my style, but there are lots of people who have that style even in real life.

The teacher locks the door if you're late to class. It seems mean now, but you're late less often after that. If he just let you in, you might be late again. This teacher isn't being morally evil.

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You're fucked in the head.

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I wouldn't teach that way. I wouldn't kill Ashes, I wouldn't lock the door on late people, etc. I even said that.

But people are acting like Cait wants to make a cat fur purse or something. That isn't the case.

Why does Boone gain a history point when killing Vulpes Inculta? It's obvious why killing Caesar awards a point, but why Vulpes? Why not Lucius?

>Wants to genocide the railroad and synths
>cat murderer
>enjoying pickpocketing, threats, violence, and being an overall dick
>enjoys murdering Phyllis Daily
>loves sticking with Bobbi No-Nose and killing Fahrenheit even though Bobbi manipulated you the entire time and her death would've been justified. js
>hates telling Miss Edna that children need love to learn
Weird that you defend her so much since you're on that True Good bullshit. You ought to be on Preston's dick instead, everything you've posted here clashes with Cait's personality.

? Because he's legion. All Boone wants to do is murder them all. Also maybe because Vulpes wiped out Nipton

Opposites attract.
See - nice people in toxic relationships

Vulpes has probably done more damage to the mojave, wiped out Nipton and Searchlight.

I am on Preston's dick though. He's one of my favorite characters.

Her telling Edna that goes along with the Billy and Erin thing. In fallout, giving kids the impression that people are nice and loving could do more harm than good, so why not tell them that there are mean people in the world now, in this controlled environment, so that wen they're out in the world, they're more prepared. I feel the need to reiterate that this is Cait's belief, not mine, since apparently that's confusing ().

I always have sided with Farenheit during that, and talk them both into not shooting. But if I had to guess, Cait would probably enjoy whatever option leads to the most tangible reward. Which is not a trait I admire, but apparently I have to reiterate that this isn't about her being perfect, it's about her being good enough to warrant respect.

Y'know, it kinda feels like a waifu believing someone is or isn't a person would be a huge deal breaker for *some people*, but I guess not

Is Horizon a good mod for Survival? I'm thinking of focusing on melee but with healing only coming from stimpacks I'm not sure its worth to try it out with all of the other balance gameplay changes.

New Vegas? Crashing. Is it that time of the hour already?

This is thr most incorrect picture on the internet. You are awarded one fedora.

Stimpacks are for combat. The mod adds 3 ranks of bandages (out of combat heal) depentant on perk rank. Horizon also replaced vanilla adrenaline with temporary damage reduction. Enemies also insist on being slightly higher level most of the time. Meelee is probably going to need investment into Intelligence to get a steady supply of chems and combat stimpacks. I dont think meelee is a smart choice if you havent played Horizon before. Enemies can and will shit on you as early as Corvega even with 10 End.

would you please stop arguing about ulysses in our undertale general please? two of your people have been shitting up our thread by arguing whether or not the courier was responsible for the divide or not. one guy says yes, another says that everyone lies to you. i told them to go back here.

Get out of here you damn furry

as soon as you get your irradiated dicks out of our thread.

Homestuck leave

>stopped arguing about fo4 when you asked them to
>now they're arguing about undertale cucks and you can't do anything about it because it's on topic
lol