>Bartertown's initial menu was described in an MLive review as an "imaginative" array of veggie, vegan and raw dishes that came with names like Dirty Dirty Beans & Greens and Raw Trash salad.
>Bartertown was a collective, which meant there were no bosses, according to Cappelletti. The inspiration for the worker-owned restaurant was based on Cappelletti's own restaurant experience.
>"Because of our economy, people are working 12- to-15-hour shifts, servers take home $200 to $300 a night in tips, the cooks are making $10 an hour[ed.that’s unfair!] and the owner takes whatever he takes [ed. he takes whatever’s left, it’s called “profit.” Or, as the collective learned “loss” when you fail to cover your costs.] Cappelletti told MLive. "We're going to have equal pay and equal say across the board. Everyone working together."
>In keeping with the worker empowerment theme, he commissioned a mural depicting Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara, Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong and other provocative leaders tackling restaurant duties.
>“The bar’s operation as a collective no longer seemed feasible,” writes Harburg in “Consensus.” “In years past, a few dedicated employees had always emerged as informal leaders. But over the past decade, this had happened less and less frequently. Most of the employees of the ’90s lacked the idealism of earlier workers and weren’t committed to a collective.”
lol communist cant even work in a fucking restaurant
Benjamin Jackson
Lot of regular businesses go under too.
Does this mean an owner paying shit wages and taking profit is an inherently flawed business model as well?
Try to rub those two brain cells you have together sometimes.
Luke Long
>waaaa why did my meme ideology get ass raped in a purely capitalist field its not fair waaa!
stay mad LARPer
Austin Clark
>Make red restaurant >[COLLAPSE] everytime
David Gomez
I mean I have always believed this. Capitalism is the best solution for short term economical growth. It would be even better if we didn't live on a planet that unfornately limits our resources. I think the need for constant growth in our modern economy is a fundamentally unsustainable system.
Nathan Ortiz
>a restaurant goes under after three decades truly an unprecedented event worthy of a thread in a history board
Henry White
>the need for constant growth
where does this meme come from
Liam King
It comes from you not taking a business 101 class and being unfamiliar with the basic structure and purpose of a corporation that issues shares.
Brody Morgan
>Bartertown was a collective, which meant there were no bosses, according to Cappelletti. You're putting a lot of hot air into what was really just an employee owned business. While technically that is the core of socialism, lots of people work in such things without thinking of themselves as ideological socialists or caring much about politics at all. I hear co-ops are popular with fishers, for example. They're not all communists.
Jackson Fisher
60% of restaurants fail within their first year. 80% don't make it 5 years.
But yeah, a Marxist vegan restaurant closing signifies something meaningful.
You faggots are incapable of making A's in highschool. You're why there should be an iq test to log online.
Ryan Sanchez
These people were communist though. Did you miss the part about them having pictures of Mao and Che in their restaurant?
Charles Davis
>iq test Now THIS is a spook
Oliver Flores
>Marxist vegan restaurant
You can't make this shit up
Jason King
>I think the need for constant growth in our modern economy is a fundamentally unsustainable system Stagnant growth coupled with a growing population is a recipe for disaster.
Carter Smith
This is why we need to cull the population.
Andrew Perez
Co-ops are fine. Co-ops ran by Marxists are a recipe for failure though considering Marxists are borderline retarded.
Easton Morris
>when spook is your ad hominem against ontological entities you don't understand or like.
You wouldn't make it on. Sorry fella, nothing personal.
Alexander Butler
It wasn't real Marxism. It was merely lunch time capitalism.
Joshua Foster
>retard with his finger up his ass detected I just don't know why people come to Veeky Forums and write clearly totally uninformed throw-away posts.
Oliver Gray
Well to be fair if your worker pool is ideological college kids going through their communist phase you're fucked either way.
Co-ops in of themselves however appeal to a large amount of people and many people would support "socialism" in that sense as long you didn't call it socialism. People spoke about owning and self managing the factories they worked in long before Marx came along and turned the concept into weaponized autism.
Cooper Robinson
I agree there is good reason we are going for infinite growth, but I don't think it is sustainable and attempting to make it so will make getting off it harder
Xavier Stewart
Well its one thing for workers to own the company. The thing that makes it work, or not work in this case is they still have to compete with traditional firms for market share.
Which means realistically they still have to appoint a manager with real power, at they cant really pay workers that much above the market value of their labor. In other words markets force them to be rational actors
Tyler Barnes
"Growth" is really just debt repayment. If we got to a point where debt couldn't be repaid fast enough, then the wealthy (current debt-holders) would find all their fabricated wealth utterly useless. The horror.
We (as a planet) need to level off the population, including in the developing world. We also need to move away from a purely debt/loan-based reserve system.
Cooper Gomez
How big is the market for 'raw' vegan shit made by edgelords in Grand Rapids, anyway? I imagine the 'collective owners' friends got tired of being cajoled into eating there.
Landon Taylor
I don't think that's very true. A lot of things inherently hold value, and wealthy people usually possess more of those things than regular people.
Sure a rich person's equity to debt ratio would be like 1:9 but that one tenth equity still amounts to way more than a regular person's collective assets
Leo James
I assume every metropolitan area has a cliche of hipsters who would eat at such a place for the sake of virtue signalling, but its hard to tell whether it was lack of customers or mismanagement based on this.
William Cooper
>hipsters who would eat at such a place for the sake of virtue signalling, Or maybe some people actually enjoy vegan food and there is always a demand for it, regardless of the communist gimmick.
What a concept, eh?
Anthony Williams
Is an American Marxist vegan restaurant seriously your first encounter of a so-called cooperative?
Joseph Campbell
>Or maybe some people actually enjoy vegan food
And some people get off on self harm but its not the norm
Ian Sanders
Being unable to conceive of people liking things you don't like is a classic hallmark of autism, I'm sorry you're cursed with such an affliction user.
James Flores
I'm sorry I triggered you with my jokes about vegan food.
Grayson Thompson
infinite growth in a finite world doesn't add up though. Something will eventually give.
Josiah Turner
You screencapped your own post.
Jace Scott
I don't even like vegan crap I'm just tired of "virtue signalling" becoming a stand in for "people doing things I wouldn't do therefore they're not sincerely doing them".
Gabriel Jones
Wrong, asteroid mining and moon petroleum will solve any resource shortage, the internet is a virtual economy and can grow infinitely with no resources needed, by 2030 asteroid mining will be happening, by 2050 the internet will have a GDP of 300 trillion USD(2016 dollars)
Luis Perez
Any number of people do "hip" or perceived positive things so they can be seen doing them, and get the positive attention that brings.
and if you cant stand people using it to make fun of this or that group perhaps you should go elsewhere
Sebastian Ortiz
You really understand less about the economy than you think you do.
Do you understand what a gold reserve is? And what happened to it?