How did you find your religion, Veeky Forums?

How did you find your religion, Veeky Forums?

How I wish I could believe, I love my trap doujins too much though

I was born into and to this day dismiss anything that runs contrary to it, of course.

I don't have a religion but I asked Jesus to gimme a hand and he sent a man to help me and that man gave me a Bible.

time to get saved user

I read the New Testament for the third time, but this time without presupposing any of the things I thought I knew about christianity (the first two times were from a mixed atheistic/scholarly stance). I wanted to understand it. I spent a lot of time thinking about the verses that fascinated me, cross-referencing them through different translations and looking up differring commentarries. I ended up reflecting on the nature of God a lot. The more I understood the christian worldview, the more I was able to see the world through it. It became something intensely beautiful for me. I am not sure whether I truly believe, but I have grown to cherish it, though I have until now been at best indifferent toward it. I live as a christian now, and it blends nicely with the way I view the world. As for what I consciously know I believe - that is the value of State, Society and the spirit of communality and fraternity among citizens (not really fascism, as it lacks the exaltation of the struggle for dominance and of violence that is characteristic of it). It's not really religion, but it has a distinctly mythological characteristic.

Rob Bell pls go

First from my parents, then I learn it more and get more indoctrinized about it, which is uncontradictive because the doctrine is actually true I really know that all the statements of the religion are happening, if not all then some will happen.

The Watchtower is satanic

kek

I discovered a forgotten fire temple while lost in the deserts of Iran

Though long abandoned, the fire still burned and it became clear to me that we must follow the Wise Lord's will and combat evil.

>live next to super Christian kid
>be best friends
>one day he places his hand on my shoulder and looks at me gravely
>"Don't worry, just because you celebrate Hallowe'en you're not going to hell"
>nigga wut
>punch him in the face for insinuating I'd go to hell

And then I became a Christian

Anyone who isn't born into a religion is just larping. Nothing I despise more than these 'born agains'. As for me I never found my religion i was born and raised into it so there was no 'discovery', it just was and is a part of my identity.

Born into it, researched it as a young adult to see past the facade of rituals and tradition. It's a lifelong journey but it gives me meaning

>what is getting saved

Just excuses. They are just pretenders who are souless and devoid of spiritual fulfillment in their lives.

IMO that only applies to people that follow/revive deed beliefs or attach a nationalistic value to faith ("I'm only Christian because it's a white religion")

>christianity
>white religion

blasphemy, you sound like a fedora.

Yeah, fuck the Gentiles who converted to christianity, they weren't real believers, they were just larping true christians.

so what is this religion you were born into, did it originate 100% in your family?

The path to hell is paved with trap-porn

Pretty standard.
I'd like to know the percentage of religious people who found it late in life (outside of prison)

>tfw baptised as 26

Underrated.

I started out as an atheist because all religions have contradictions and a God wouldn't make those types of logicals errors. I had strong hope in technological singularity to save me from death.

But after awhile I began to notice the order and harmony of the universe. It all fits together so perfectly to produce self-aware beings. It's like miracle upon miracle that defies inductive reasoning.

So after coming to that conclusion I started looking into religion again. I realized that mysticism was very appealing to me, and took a second look at christianity. If you take the Gospel without the old testament it actually doesn't have logical errors so it is entirely plausible and actually makes a lot of sense.

So in the end I am like a Gnostic Christian.

It was passed down to me by my progenitors.

Studied the Qur'an with lectures to explain the arabic.
Became muslim after about a month, once I'd sifted through the most common misconceptions about Islam like "hurr durr warlord pedophile womenbeating durrrrr DURRRR"

Mohammed wasn't a war mongering pedophile? Siince when?

Mate, just in case you're seriously asking, I'm sorry but I've given up on trying to talk to this board on any serious level about Islam. No other historical subject would be discussed by using only the sources and interpretations of the enemies of said subject matter. Yet, this is the norm for Islam.

We don't study Evolution by reading creationist books. We don't study medicine by reading anti-vaxxer books. Still, it's the norm to study Islam by reading Christian-Evangelical books and websites.

If you want to read up, genuinely, pick up Martin Lings' biography of the prophet Muhammad, Pbuh. Otherwise, I can't help you.

Read the sutras. Thought it seemed silly, but decided on Pascal's Wager and thought "fuck it".

no but seriously though, Muhammad did marry and fug a child, right? and wage war to spread Islam, and establish the caliphate so his successors could wage war to spread Islam beyond his life, right?

these did happen, or is it made up?

>mysticism was very appealing to me
>doesn't have logical errors so it is entirely plausible
Are you confused?

Mysticism as in the perennial philosophy.
What logical errors exist if you seperate the religions and only listen to accounts of seers?

First post, best post

Mysticism is inherenetly illogical because it's about the personal experience of an undying eternal God, about bridging the gap between fell creation and divinity. Have you ever actually read any of the Christian mystics? They don't write logical arguments, they write about ineffable experiences.

He married a girl of the age of marriage, as was appropriate to that time, and to most of the world until fairly recently.
The wars he waged in his lifetime were exclusively, and I say that knowing very well what that means, exclusively defensive in nature. If you want to learn the Islamic laws of war, you can often read deuteronomy. In almost all cases where the prophet deviated from deuteronomic laws, he did so tending towards more mercy and kindness.

I said I am similar to one.
I don't believe all accounts of mysticism, nor do I think they make sense. I just believe people can have an experience of the Divine(perceive the Godhead), and then they made up a bunch of theology to support their truth.

If you cut out all the bunk it's not that incredible to believe in. Check out the Upanishads. It descirbes God as the Ground of All existence, so that God is everything. When people have experiences of God, they are merely self-aware of their own pure existence or essence.

Yeah thanks, I'm familiar with the Upanishads. My point is, no, you're not a mystic. You're not even "similar to one." Plus, why do you care about logical consistency if you believe in mysticism? Why does logical consistency matter if people can experience God directly?

I know I'm not a mystic but I think the experience is possible.
Logic is important because illogical things are difficult to believe in. You have to believe to get started on the path to experience God directly (which at that point would no longer be metaphysical nonsense according to hume, but would be a sensed object)

>When people have experiences of God, they are merely self-aware of their own pure existence or essence.
This is totally wrong, at least as far as Christian mysticism goes. Human beings don't have a "pure existence," because creation is inherently flawed and humans are forever marred by original sin. You should sit down and actually read Hildegard or St. John of the Cross or something because there's no reason why you should be trying to fit Hume into mysticism.

How has it turned out for you? Do you regret it or was it a positive thing in your life?

So, what you're saying is he did marry and have sex with a child, and did wage war to spread Islam.

You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just saying "Yes, Muhammed did exactly what you said, I just see no problem with him doing it".

>were exclusively, and I say that knowing very well what that means, exclusively defensive in nature

muslim apologists

The revelation of the true identity of the Hebrew people.

T. Known Boss

Like I said, I think that some(only some) had experiences of the divine, and then tried to rationalize what happened with their flawed ideologies.
The hindus explain it most concisely.

What made it more appealing then other monotheistic religions?
Often it seems people only convert to Islam because it is powerful, also even if you put that misconception aside the number of times the quoran beats hell and paradise into your skull at a much more frequent rate then jesus did makes it seems like a depressingly primitive carrot and stick theology.

You said you were like a Gnostic Christian in your first post. So what does Christianity have to do with it if you think the Hindu's did the best job of describing God or whatever? I think you've read too many books halfway through without finishing them.

I believe Christ was a mystical human and Hindu's did do the best job of describing what they discovered.
For Christian mysticism, I was reading more along the lines of "The Cloud of Unknowing"

How do you even define LARPing in the sense you fags use it? It's just such a buzzword devoid of meaning.

For me, a large part of the appeal came from the essential simplicity of pure monotheism. The testimony of faith says "I testify that there is nothing worthy of worship but Allah, and Muhammad is his slave and messenger." No intercessors, no priestly class, simple.
Aside from that, there are many concepts which are to be taken with various degrees of understanding, from highly mystical to highly mundane understandings are all possible and even beneficial.
My understanding of Heaven and Hell, as studied in the context of the ahadeeth on the night journey of the prophet, pbuh, is not that we are simply punished for bad and rewarded for good. Our afterlife follows the lines and patterns of our current life. If we live consumerist lives, naturally our souls will gravitate towards the consuming fire. If we live lives in control of our material desires, rather than controlled by them, focused on God and his light, our souls will gravitate naturally towards Gods light.
I also tend towards the two famous statements of Rabia of Basra. The first was a prayer: "If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in it. If I worship you in hope of paradise, steal me from it. But if I worship you for your own being, don't withhold from me your everlasting beauty."
And the second was when she was seen running through the city with a jug of water and a burning lamp. When people asked her where she was going, she replied: "I am off to quench the fires of hell and burn down the gardens of paradise, for both are obstacles in the way to Allah."

Caravans of his enemies, carrying the stolen property of the muslims, off to trade in Syria to make a war fund, passing through the territory of the muslim city of Madinah.

1. He married and had sex with a young woman. I do not agree that people of her age in that day and age were children. The fact that westerners today stay children until their 30s has no bearing on the past.
2. He never waged war to spread Islam. He waged wars for the sake of political safety, to be allowed to practice and preach safely. That is not the same as wagin war to spread Islam.