I hate the reddit crossposting but I'm glad that it allowed me to see this, my week wouldn't have been complete without my witnessing something so dumb that it destroys my faith in the species.
Ryder Garcia
How important is Armor/Evasion? Thinking of getting one of these but I'm not sure how much it'll help me. I don't even use endurance charges so the endurance mechanic is just an extra.
So assuming you play shitcore and thus participate in an economy with zero unique rings sink because vaaling rings is pretty retarded and no one does it, you're upset there's now a sink thus a value to them?
Connor Jackson
once every player has picked up 60 rings (like 120 maps) the price of loreweave will be like 10c, and rings will be back to normal
Landon Morales
Daresso's Defiance is trash
Jonathan Davis
bad kintsugi
Thomas Adams
>How important is Armor/Evasion? as important as opportunity cost allows it stop asking dumb vague questions
Daniel Harris
anyone having trouble sustaining a shaped atlas? can't do it with 2 sextants chisels alchs 110 map completion
Daniel Jenkins
>played a KB QoTF wander last league and now everything is slow and boring i just want to go fast again
>why the fuck does GGG get a pass when it comes to lootboxes? Why do you care? Do you wake up in the morning with a mission to find new reasons to get offended?
why can energy shield bleed? you should be immune to bleeding when you have 1+ es, it's literally a force field protecting your skin and flesh from drawing blood
>why the fuck does GGG get a pass when it comes to lootboxes? because they dont have loot, only shitty cosmetics you have to be a special kind of retard to pay real money for this shit
Dominic Cooper
hey i just got into this game and basically tried to do a flicker strike build but with claws
i just beat act 10 and its become clear to me that this shit isnt actually going to work out, what skill works w basically a flicker strike build that doesnt actually use flicker strike?
>pass when it comes to lootboxes I have literally no problem with comsetic lootboxes and no one cares to crack down on actual gambling that is a multibillion dollar industry where people spend way more than even the most whalest of whales in one day
Grayson Parker
>selfcast in 2018 l m a o
Asher Richardson
this isn't d3 kid, decisions have consequences here you made a dumb build, now live with it
Ian Perez
ban lootboxes can some of you kiwis get your government on this
Brandon Jenkins
>Not a single post addressing the drop rate complaints >"Here have some more cosmetics lol" They're going fix everything behind the scenes and pretend it was never a real problem.
You can socket spell totem into Whispering Ice and then roll Heirophant
Don't do it unless you have a vendetta against your GPU, though
Dylan Evans
I'm not going full evasion, I just want to avoid ES because MoM. That chest just seems to give a good shitload of armor/evasion and some health to boot.
Because it is stupidly expensive?
Jayden Nguyen
>try to capture the basilisk unique mob >it gets low, and I throw my net >it turns me to stone >my RF kills it before the animation can finish
Unique rings are so incredibly common though. Ok /poeg/, its time we had a talk..
You understand what opportunity cost is? Every second you spend in the menagerie is a second wasted because while yes you are crafting a unique ring, thats ALL you're doing. Which means you aren't slaying a monster with the chance to drop a chaos, or a divine, or an exalt, or a mirror, or yes, even a unique ring. So as you can see, it is a complete wast of time to EVER zone into your menagerie. just never do it, always keep farming, even if you're farming for unique rings. you will find stuff that is more valuable, that you can trade for unique rings. ok good talk /poeg/ glad we're on the same page now
Bentley Bennett
just play frostblades or dual strike
Ian Morales
meant for
Aiden Green
I wonder if reddit ever realized that by feeding the mass hysteria that currency drop rates were halved and every shit currency is worth 1:1 chaos now, they weren't hurting their own economy for no reason
You don't think flippers have a field day with this?
Isaac Jenkins
Not everyone is playing for the max time efficiency possible, vaultist.
Eli Gray
i dropped 2 exalts yesterday and 1 today feels good man
Nicholas Gray
the only efficient way to play path of exile is to not
Ryder Hall
>Standing in front of the Basilisk >Looking in the direction of the Basilisk Nigga.
Brandon Carter
why isnt it working out?
Aaron Evans
after complaining about not finding humilities in 12 levels I found 2 within 5 minutes
Jayden Williams
so the trick to winning is to complain to my monitor?
Logan Jenkins
ok but when dumbass ninjas like you waste time in the menagerie it means less currency in the economy which means less gg gear getting crafted and less chase uniques available and less maps and everything its just a smaller game so you assholes that derp around like an idiot hurt the average player while helping ggg because the slower everyone is to reaching checkpoints the longer they have to play and the more likely they are to spend money on mtx.
Yeah but... D3... does Blizzard give you black cat pets...? thought so...
Michael Sanchez
pls some1 answer me WHY CAN'T I SUSTAIN MAPS WITH ALL THIS CRAP? it wasn't even this bad last league. the only thing im missing i suppose is rotating elder/shaper on the map but i don't even know if that is still possible this league
Jaxon Hernandez
those both seem like good ideas ty i just am not killing stuff quickly enough to sustain my frenzy charges to keep flicker strike spam going, i have pretty good gear but like the attack speed of the claws doesnt mean much when they just dont hit hard enough per frenzy charge consumed
Elijah Ramirez
I don't care. If you want to vaultist away, go ahead, but I'm not going to do the same.
Alexander Barnes
Net drops fuck with Maps and Currency. They probably reduced the overall drop rate of Maps slightly. RNG.
Henry James
>the drop rate complaints
people have been complaining about drop rates since forever
throughout the entire abyss league, the forums were constantly flooded with whining about "nerfed" map drops because people were used to having free red maps from harbinger league. now they are used to having free currency from abyss, so they are whining about "nerfed" currency drops.
all these complaints can be ignored and discarded. they come from breach babbies whose only exposure to the game were the recent loot pinata leagues, and now that ggg is taking away the free item shower they are throwing a tantrum.
Jace Hernandez
Why do you feel entitled to map sustain?
Gabriel Scott
I don't understand how it can be this bad. I'm getting on average 1 return per 4 maps.
Hudson Williams
a swimming cat is a little weird
Grayson Ramirez
>all these complaints can be ignored and discarded Know what can't be ignored or discarded? The shittier Alch:C market rate in the history of PoE leagues.
look up Terminus Est Flicker, you might still be able to salvage your character
Henry Anderson
>go to menagerie >spend 1 minute fighting beasts >duplicate my 6L astral plate
meanwhile you are busy farming white maps for that exalt drop that will surely come one day lmao
Chase Martinez
>shittier Shittiest.
Charles Myers
I don't feel entitled to it. I'm just confused as to how drop rates on map feel even worse. Abyss i was able to sustain easily on a shaped atlas. Iguess that is because all of the extra monsters from it and rotating elder/shaper on the map but this feels absurdly bad in comparison. I guess the meta is no longer to run a shaped map if I have it this bad.
Ryder Williams
I think have to kind of player crusader kings II with elder/shaper on the atlas. what im doing right now is just going around the atlas in a circle, pushing elder just up to the edge of the next tier of maps I need, tt11s right now, and then just hoping that with each tick of the atlas elder will move in and take over the t11, which i then run. and I just try not to stay around too long and do lucrative elder influence maps on the back side, like t10s and t9s, as i just continually push him around the atlas.
it absolutely sucks, i send a bunch of time in t8 maps and below, i hate it, but I have been at least making progress, I will say that.
post 2.5 and 3.0 breach babbies will NEVER understand what REAL map scarcity looks like
Parker Ortiz
>they avoid making armor look cool to sell this kind of shit
Aaron Peterson
if i were going to waste money on mtx i'd probably buy cats before i'd buy armor sets
Juan Lopez
what are you trying to sustain protip: you cant vault it up like last league. that was heavily dependent on stacking 6 great sextant mods combined with zana breach, both are gone now.
generic low red maps are sustainable just fine. im doing the same shaped 11/12/13 setup i've been running in every league for over a year now, and map drops feel pretty much the same as they always did.
Luke Powell
>REAL map scarcity looks like T. Unaware that they've constantly tweaked map drops to be relatively consistent (and shit) since the very fucking beginning It's always been about this bad. The issue is that they don't allocate loot on a per-player basis, but on an approximation of total server population.
Jack Phillips
how is it anything like communism? its just something to consider. most people only ever look at their slice of the pie relative to others, but they never really think about the size of the pie as a whole. you're wasting time in the menagerie when you could be out increasing the size of the pie. nobody is saying that you need to share your slice of the pie
I am currently trying to sustain shaped haunted mansion. I roll for at least 80 quant, chisel have 2 good sextants running when i run the map. I have not been using any zana mods. The only thing I'm missing is rotating elder shaper on the map for extra mobs. What are you doing to sustain? Is it similar to my setup?
Jackson Parker
Estuary is real good, yes.
Isaac Nelson
play minish cap diablo clones aren't good games, they are just addictive
This can easily be manipulated though. The ratios are decided by your playerbase, not set in stone. I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand that past the smaller currencies which have a set NPC conversion rate ceiling, nothing in the game tells you a chaos orb "should be" worth 2 or 2.5 or 3 alchemies. Why are blessed orbs like 2:1 chaos despite being like 10 times rarer? It's all decided by utility. Common sense would make you think than not having +500 extra mobs every map and everyone running Bisco's quintuple sextanted Vaults would have a bigger impact on the ratios than GGG nerfing every drop rate behind the scenes.
Aaron Lewis
>85 ish uber labs >100 atziris captured all beasts i ran past >100~ maps >no legendary beast encounters >4 liches
I'm serious considering shaping my atlas for burial chambers only, rush zana 8 and alternate between burial and beachheads
what do you losers think
Logan Rivera
I wish GGG would be more transparent with drop rates, because their constant undocumented manipulation behind the scenes is really scummy, and getting on my nerves. WOULD PROBABLY PREVENT CONSPIRACY THEORIES TOO
I'm starting to buy that Encroaching Darkness was nerfed because they added a unique map recipe for bestiary >One you can farm by running maps over a certain tier >The other you've gotta hope spawns a specific legendary monster, and also competes with "add suffix, remove prefix" recipe
Crafting leagues are fucking aids. never have one again.
James Morgan
elder on orchard, one guardian on mud geyser gives me perma elder/shaper influence on my shaped dunes
dont try to sustain a single map. it wont work, at least not in reds. pick three shaped tiers to sustain, maybe four if you want. for me it's t11 jungle valley, t12 dunes, t13 tropical island, t14 vault. pick them according to your atlas, so you get perma elder on as many of them as possible.
how to run your maps >chisel >alch >3 atziri fragments >zana bloodlines >elder/shaper if possible >white sextants on t11
Julian Martinez
kinda related - I bet they weigh what mods you roll on maps. So people will always roll more mods that fuck them than don't.
Jonathan Hill
>no legendary beast encounters >in 100 maps That's pretty unrealistic. Have you full-cleared your maps?
Blake Walker
Alright thanksfor the advice. I'll try that. I put way less effort into it before was able to sustain without all the extra steps.
William Williams
imagine ACTUALLY playing this trash league
John Ross
Maybe the legendary beasts have map restrictions that you wouldn't know of if you spent half your playing time in uber lab which is still a level 75 area
Adrian Morris
dont forget to max out your atlas completion >guardians >t15s >t14s if you dont want to run a shaped t14 >all uniques
you can leave out hyper expensive uniques like perandus manor, but other than that you want as much completion as possible.
Chase Peterson
Yes, I'm a windripper mf deadeye. I go fast and clear maps even faster.
Gotta get that 100/100 for end game grinds early my dude.