/srg/ - Speedrunning General

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Where's the part about how people here will obsessively write fan fiction about you for 4 years and attempt to push you out of the community and dox you?

Good OP. The news section is especially nice.

Do RGB adapters/mods allow you to play lag free on LCDs? Thinking about getting it done on my N64

Just play on a computer monitor and don't sperg over tiny delay. In the end you'll regret spending all that time on shit that isn't playing the actual game. Speedrunning is not CS:GO where every ms matters.

Don't listen to this guy He's just crying that Overwatch and Fortnite are more skill based competitive games than CS:GO.

>muh hitscan

It's hard to get used to a delay when timing of tricks matters

The CRT vs LCD delay literally doesn't matter because it's a 3 frame difference at most.

Then why is there a 15 frame delay on my LCD tv? I literally recorded it and counted the frames.

It matters a lot you fucking dunce.

Get a monitor, not a tv, you retard. I'm saying it's not worth ruining your eyes playing on a CRT

Reminder that live-streaming and only doing single segment runs wile bullshitting with "muh subscribers" killed skilled speedrunning

>Get a monitor, not a tv
Yes, I'm sure the introduction of an adapter + upscaling will cause only 3 frames of lag, and you've proven this beyond a reasonable doubt.
>I'm saying it's not worth ruining your eyes playing on a CRT
CRTs don't ruin your eyes unless you're sitting like 5 inches away from it lmao. What is this old wives tale shit?

If you mod your console for RGB you may as well be playing emu you dumb fuck

No, that is nonsense. Emu looks and plays like fucking garbage, and they introduce input lag of their own.

Still makes you a bottom feeding cheater nonetheless

>shitty TV with 250ms inputlag
literally 100 times the latency of a gaming monitor and you think it's the same thing because they both use LCD, LOLOLOLOLO
Adapters are analogue and don't increase input lag dummy. Upscaling is done on ASIC and doesn't really ad any lag either

>3 frame difference
That's a pretty fucking big difference during many tricks in my game. Do you even speedrun?

no, this person obviously doesn't speedrun.

Actually, a lot of top runners are big streamers, so no, it didn't at all, you massive cunt.

How deluded are you to actually think that? What game do you run?

>gaming monitor
Why would I spend hundreds of dollars on a gaming monitor with 3 frames of delay when I can get a CRT with no frames of delay for free?
>you think it's the same thing
Hi Mr Straw Man.
>upscaling doesn't cause input lag
lmao

He is correct to think that. Go back to /v/, sweetie.

>gaming monitor

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>LOLOLOLOLO
What is this zany reddit shit?

Why did you make a new thread?

>Why would I spend hundreds of dollars
I'm not saying you should. I'm saying you're dumb if you think a gaming monitor is the same as a 10 year old TV
>3 frames of delay
50ms is not a gaming monitor retard.
>lmao
show me where the ASIC adds IL

fuck off faggot. if you don't like /srg/ anymore then move on with your life

He isn't. In speedrunning you don't compete for the quickest reaction like in CS:GO. 99% of tricks are based off of muscle memory ahead of time. Latency, especially minuscule, is of little importance.

t. has no records and probably doesn't speedrun

that was my first post dummy.

If you have to react to audio and visual cues to perform certain tricks, then latency absolutely matters

Your reaction time is consistent. This isn't a situation where whoever has the lower reaction gets to stay alive. If you're on a 3 frame delay you practice to get used to that delay and it works the same way. Explain how it fucking matters at all

Without latency:
>See cue
>Perform trick

With latency:
>See cue
>Perform trick
>OOPS you missed it, because the cue appeared to you late

If you don't understand this you are retarded.

Like fucking hell

Without latency:
>see cue
>perform trick

with latency:
>see cue
>perform trick with adjusted timing
or
>perform trick with different cue

you're literally making up some kind of black and white arbitrary bullshit that doesn't apply to most speedgames

>adjusted timing
>different cue
You literally don't understand the concept of time.

The fuck are you talking about. You can always compensate for latency in the situations you described. Fuck off

>see cue 3 seconds late
>do trick
>fail trick because you needed to do it within 3 seconds of the cue
Wow

If you have a window of time to perform the trick after a cue, then you will always fail it unless you can see the future if there's latency. The fact that you can't understand this is mind boggling.

somebody else can argue for me, you are beyond stupid, bye

Who would win?

A professional engineer with thousands of hours of OOT playtime... Or one majora's mask minigame?

Why are people who don't speedrun pretending they know the importance of a latency free display better than speedrunners?

You're the retarded one, though. You don't speedrun, yet you think you understand these things better than people who do speedrun.

user, I hate to break this to you, but you’re wrong

>the guy perpetuating the myth that CRTs damage your eyes is calling other people stupid
fucking lmao

Are we all just taking really elaborate bait?

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so what are you implying that there's a magical timer in your brain that will fail a trick because it's 3010ms instead of 3000 with latency? are you braindamaged? the latency is constant and you will have compensated for it universally

>make sure you remember to hit A before touching the ground
sounds really intuitive and not annoying/detrimental at all.

so your issue is with not being able to practice efficiently because the timing doesn't match tutorials? sorry to break it to you kid but not everything is going to be spoonfed to you in life

CRTs are practically spoonfed to me on craigslist, actually. I can go right now and get 10 of them for free.

>so your issue is with not being able to practice efficiently because the timing doesn't match tutorials?
how did you take this away from what anyone said

furiouspaul doesn't play on a CRT because it hurts his eyes, you can go ask him to confirm, there are also numerous videos explaining CRTs emit radiation and are harmful

Is TMR a grindmonkey?

>furiouspaul doesn't play on a CRT because it hurts his eyes
So he's a pussy.
>there are also numerous videos explaining CRTs emit radiation and are harmful
And? I can find numerous videos explaining the dangers of vaccines. That doesn't suddenly make it not soccer mom bullshit.

furiouspaul is more of a man than you'll ever be kiddo

dude you can google CRT radiation and find out it isn't harmful in like 3 seconds of research. i'm sorry that you fall for braindead youtube fear mongering.

dunno, kinda looks like a pussy to me.

why doesn't he just wear gunnars?

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you'd literally fucking die if you started shit with fp you little shit can you piss off already the man is telling you CRTs are no good for your eyes why ruin your eyes while you're still young?

this has to be bait.

People have been staring at CRTs for 100 years, surely there would be some kind of scientific consensus by now that they're harmful if they actually were.

>implying
the man barrowed gravel for like a decade, you'd be fucking dead kid

>waaah my eyes hurt :(

Eye pain isn't real.

it's real

frame perfect tricks performed at 20 fps that can only be performed with a crt monitor

How can eye pain be real if your eyes aren't real?

Speed Announcement!

No Pie stream today, but tomorrow is SMO Co-op + Mario Power Tennis! Should be a good one!

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Press the buttons before the cues.

you're spot on but these retards can't understand what you're saying at all.

you adapt you fuckin stupid cunt.

nah he isn't, you're a fuckin meatskulled cunt shite who completely misses the point that you adapt to your setup and if you run the game you aren't fucking waiting for cues like a fucking surprise and raw reaction time, you know it's coming and you accommodate for it with a sense of timing you learn through practice. I come from the shmups community where we have the same myth always coming from shitty western pleb fucks whilst the best players in the world just adapt to lag accordingly and that's an actual top tier hard genre not the gay tranny fodder childrens games you bunch of waster scum play.

>whilst the best players in the world just adapt to lag
The best speedrunners use CRTs and agree that lag is detrimental.

>you adapt
If you see the cue later you hit the button later, 100% of the time. The fact that you don't understand this is insane. For some tricks, that delay can make you fail it.

>So he's a pussy.
yeah because fucking your eyesight prematurely over a video game is SO ALPHA! christ what a stupid fuck you are.

jesus fucking christ, it's not annoying because it's what you have adapted to, you haven't learned anything else in life ever have you? gamers really are the most unintelligent ppl out there.

>he's still deluded enough to think CRTs cause eye damage
This is the saddest shit I've ever seen.

>you haven't learned anything else in life ever have you?
I learned how to play saxophone and guitar, both hobbies where my inputs are 1:1, like they should be.

Yeah it's called be sensible and not fucking yourself over for stupid reasons, you have the brain of a fucking infant.

>HAHA MY EYES HURT LOL I KEEP PLAYIN CUS SO TOUGH RIGHT GUISE XD

brain dead cunt.

There's practically no difference between a CRT and a 2015+ low latency LCD. CRTs don't magically have 0 inputlag, it's just practically 0, same for the modern LCDs. When running @100hz+ modern LCDs actually have less inputlag than CRTs, but this isn't relevant for console games.

I'm not the other retard bitching about CRTs btw.

>you have the brain of a fucking infant.
>CRTs damage your eyes tho

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No you fucking don't, you know the cues coming and adapt your timing to accomodate, you should be so familiar with the game nothing is a surprise for fuck sake, you can literally create your own fucking cues at any point, you fucking imbecilic cunt dumb dirty mum shite.

Im not him and i don't, im just pointing out that your approach to someone who experiences eye pain and for his own sake uses a different screen is nigh on the most child like bullshit i've seen.

>>CRTs damage your eyes tho
i never said this and im not that other guy who did you mong twatter.

>dirty mum shite
lel

>you know the cues coming
That doesn't apply to every situation you fucking retard. Enemy AI, RNG, 3D variability, etc etc

You are so stupid. Just stop!

>you know the cues coming and adapt your timing to accomodate
No, this is nonsense. You can get good with input lag, but it will still bottleneck your ability. This is almost unanimous among people who are actually good at speedrunning, as well as stuff like rhythm gaming.
>im just pointing out that your approach to someone who experiences eye pain and for his own sake uses a different screen is nigh on the most child like bullshit i've seen.
He sounds like a pussy. Why doesn't he just use some kind of filter like gunnars?

>calling me retard
furiouspaul would fuck you up

it's like he thinks every game is a hold right and jump platformer where every situation works out exactly the same every time.

>can't WR on an LCD because my made up sources say so!
>but you can WR on a hori!
SM64fags forever BTFO

>you can WR on a hori!
Hori bottlenecks your movement. There's a reason why cheese can't beat Xiah and Toasts spreadsheet times despite grinding some stars 10x as much.

You're just proving my point by naming runners that are not relevant to the most popular category

If you don't purposely sabotage yourself, you're less skilled!

t. LCD Fags

I'm naming runners with better movement than the only runner who uses hori.

Xiah ran 16 star primarily that's where his fast movement comes from not because a hori

also, irrels need not apply

No, Xiah did single star primarily. RTA was secondary for him.
>not because a hori
You're right, Xiah doesn't use a hori. He uses an N64 controller, which allows for more precise movement than a hori.

If you can be 3 minutes ahead than the runner with "fast movement" on a hori, the same can be done on an LCD. Case closed.

>xiahs fast movement across the entire game comes from grinding 16 star

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No, it's not that black and white. I know you're an autist and struggle with detailed thinking, but more factors go into your PB than "fast movement".

Time spent grinding attempts, for example.

You don't even have definitive proof that hori gimps you enough to not be able to compete in 120 star let alone that perfect movement cannot be replicated on 1 frame delay. We're done here, kid.

honestly i'm pretty sure those advocating for LCDs over CRTs in the thread are just acting like idiots on purpose since that's the sort of thing you can expect from this general (as well as the rest of Veeky Forums)

anyone who's ever tried hooking up a console via composite (or any other analog source for that matter) to an LCD monitor will easily notice the input delay since the monitor has to convert the signal to digital in real-time

SM64 has never had a top runner in 120 star who played with actual optimal movement. The category has always had this problem. It was worse when siglemic was at the top, but it persists even today. The game is nowhere near its skill ceiling. There are runners with better movement than Cheese who show the true potential of the game, but they don't do RTA.

>You don't even have definitive proof that hori gimps you enough to not be able to compete in 120 star let alone that perfect movement cannot be replicated on 1 frame delay. We're done here, kid.
I have definitive proof that noone with a hori has ever completed a complex star at anywhere near the level of optimization that players with N64 controllers have, and I have definitive proof that there are no top runners that use an LCD screen.

When you claim that either can be accomplished, that's your burden of proof. I don't need to prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist. You need to prove that he does.

Do you know about my original question ? I moved and don't have a CRT anymore