/bfg/ - Battlefield General

The List to End All Lists Edition

There are no best weapons. There are weapons that are better suited for different play styles and situations, but that does not make them better than every other weapon. Frankly, with the exception of the Kolibri, every other weapon in the game is useful and viable. So it really is down to what situation you face it and how you want to play the game.

>>>LINKS

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Time for me nightly War Pigeons sesh.

He doesn't use weapons according the faction he's playing at that moment.
Remove metafags from this general

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>AaAaAAaaaAaa

>transfer into new squad
>somebody immediately activates a squad boost

BLACKED SMG SKINS TONIGHT!

Why is no one talking about the new variants? That MP12 experimental and silenced Enfield look great.

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Where were you in the last 3 threads? I'm waiting for a suppressed LMG

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>mfw scrapped enfield skin because iron sights
>now they want to add scoped, suppressed version
a mild reeeeee

>he doesn't exclusively use iron sights rifles

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i dont mind iron sights
but the iron sight guards on the enfield are not good

Why do I always have to be the fucking guy using smokes? Just let me use my fun nades, video game.

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Gods be praised.

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>"I feel stressed, I feel like I am in a war myself."

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>suppressed snipers
Pls God no. Hillniggers are the impacted kidney stones in the Battlefield ureter already.

no bipod so no benefit to laying in a field 20 miles from the action

Yeah but do they know/care about that?

Post better names for things
>Automatico
Automaticuck
Nigmatico
Shitbadico
Autismatico
Cykablyatico
Imblackandnevermetmydadico

I’m not that person, but I agree with you. It’s bulky and atrocious. Shame really.

You should include the rest of the links to stuff like the discord

>faggots that only use the smg 08 now
You don't deserve its love, faggots. It wasn't good enough for you then, and you aren't good enough for it now.

I never want to do the Russian Operations again. Pure misery.

>tier queers

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The REAL best gun ranks per class.
REAL stands for Really Excellent Amazing List
The 100% New Wave, 120% Post Punk, 200% best album endorsed list
youtube.com/watch?v=ilcD1fHcGB0
Best to worst, new TTK+apocalypse edition

Medic:
RSC 1917
Luger Rifle
General Liu
Model 8
Fedorov Avtomat
Howell
Farquhar-Hill
Cei-Rigotti
M1907
Mondragon
Selbstlader

Assault:
SMGs:
Ribeyrolles
Hellriegel defensive
SMG 08-18
Hellriegel factory
RSC SMG
C96 Trench
Maschinenpistole
Automatico
MP 18

Shotguns:
Model 1900
Sjögren
Trench Gun
Model 10-A
Auto 5

Support:
Huot
Browning M1917
Chauchat
Parabellum
BAR
Madsen
LMG08/18
Perino
Benet-Mercie
MG15 N.A.
Lewis Gun

Scout:
Gewehr
Lebel
Mannlicher
Pattern 1917
Mosin
Arisaka
Vetterli-Vitali
Ross
Martini Henry
Russian 1895
SMLE
Carcano
Springfield

Stuff that's changed since the list was posted:
Carcano raised up 1 level based on /bfg/user suggestion.
RSC SMG put down 3 levels based on /bfg/user suggestion.
Fedorov Avtomat put down 3 levels based on /bfg/user suggestion.
Maschinenpistole raised up 1 level based on /bfg/user suggestion.
Separated Hellriegel defensive and factory so the SMG08/18 could be placed in between them.
LMG08/18 raised 2 levels. Debating whether or not to raise it further.

Keep in mind that the new weapons variants coming soon have a good chance to displace things.
RSC SMG most likely going to get knocked down even lower and Ross and Carcano likely to get bumped up heaps.
>no new support or medic variants
sucks

I fuck the pic then the link
thank god no one is in these threads to notice

>fucked it up 3 times now
its a sign you need to stop

Ok whatever just forget the image.
Christ, I'm tired.
Enjoy the bumps

I just got off work and I'm a little strung out.
/bfg/ gets the bumps for it so whatever.

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>Vetterli-Vitali
What niche does this even fill?

Please respond.

The SIMPLIFIED list
VERY BEST 10/10

>Short range
>Medium range
>Long range

Assault:
Model 10-A
SMG 08/18
Ribeyrolles

Medic:
Fedorov
RSC
Mondragon

Support:
BAR
MG15
M1917

Scout:
Martini
Ross
Gewehr

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Red pill me on the Hellriegel

Why even use it when SMG 08 is a thing?

there is no reason.

Hellriegel finally got cucked.

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>when the Reich kicks in

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good taste

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Don’t worry. Brusilov will be back when they cycle to Fire and Ice again. :^)

thank the fuck

i can scrap the blacked hellriegel skin

i never used the hellriegel after i got a service star with the defensive variant

never understood the appeal of it
pre-nerf autistico outperformed it
now smg 08 outperforms it
nothingofvaluewaslost.jpg

all the mlg shitters with 100+ service stars didnt noticed that there are other weapons available in the game.

i really liked the SMG08/18 before the patch, now it feels a bit too strong, but is still better balanced and limited in range than the N00Briegel and still outperforms it.
DICE did good by changing it that way, even tho they didnt had to change it

ya pre-change smg08 had a satisfying rpm, it just jugged along accurately. all it really needed was a dmg buff.

The weapon tier meme is getting old, lets have a stupid fucking argument about something else.

OFFICIAL operations fun tier list as spoken by the Almighty Lord Jesus Christ Himself and approved by 10 out of 10 #1 charting 80s J-Pop artists.
youtube.com/watch?v=XIVGQ-B9G38

Fun:
Devil's Anvil
Gallipoli
Beyond the Marne
Conquer Hell
Red Tide
Brusilov Offensive
Kaiserschlacht
Iron Walls
Oil of Empires

Not fun:
N/A

Be advised: any personage(s) whomst take issue with the above order are SJWs that literally and unironically believe that Trayvon Martin was innocent and that there is absolutely nothing wrong with chopping off your dick and calling yourself a woman. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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What if Battlefield V is a modern Battlefield?

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Not at all unexpected, would be disappointed but buy it if it keeps BF1's gameplay.

>Please respond
Believe it or not I do actually take the time to not shitpot and play the game.

>Vetterli-Vitali
>What niche does this even fill?
20-50 1 shot kill sweet spot is pretty good.
>Why not just use the Arisaka? Seems better in every way. You just don't have to get so close.
Fair answer, but I would say that carbine variant gives it a lot of help in terms of getting on target and staying on target outside its good range.
Plus sometimes you just don't get to pick the range and it's nice to be able to get someone when they're up close where you're more vulnerable.
It's just a nice close range rifle.

>starting arguments for the sake of arguing
WEW
E
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lad

If you actually want to know which operations I like:

Devil's Anvil
Beyond the Marne
Conquer Hell
Kaiserschlacht
Iron Walls
Red Tide
Brusilov Offensive
Gallipoli
Oil of Empires

There's no real bad operations really.
Just bad teams.
Your team getting fucked up or you romping the other team isn't fun.
Both Russian maps are a bit bias though.
Even still Oil of Empires is still an accomplishment to finish as attackers.
Funny how the French operations turned out so well.
Even with the start of Devil's Anvil being a bit fucked.

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>already have 8000 scraps saved up
That BLACKED Huot is so mine.

Lads i need help
How can i make the g.liu work?
i cant stand the fucking iron sights

aim center mass and mag dump?

Which one are you using?
Factory or Storm?

>shoot someone
>observe thrrough a sniper scope as the bullet penetrates their cranium
>no damage
>shoot again
>bullet goes literally through their face
>no damage
>shoot them again even lower
>hit their torso
>it's a headshot
>go prone behind a two meters tall stone fence
>take a moment off the game to see what year it is
>I confirm these hitboxes are real in the year 2018
>get back to the game
>a horse jumps over the fence behind which I am currently proning
>horse flies through the air meters above me
>doesn't even get close to touching me
>I die
>the game says I was trampled by a horse
>call an astrologist and have them confirm that we are indeed currently observing the year 2018
>contact a psychologist to confirm that I am currently not experiencing a psychotic episode and hallucinating these hitboxes
>confirm that I have in fact experienced these hitboxes in the year 2018

WHAT THE FUCK DICE

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factory

Man i just wanted a marksman version

I was melee'd through a fucking wall, bro, shit is whack

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A marksman or optical would be amazing.

Storm is better for up close and is good for mag dumping, but once you reach a distance you might need longer between your shots for accurate fire.

Factory has more recoil so not as good up close, but you'll be able to fire faster at range.

Sorry if you know all that already, just wanted to clarify.
Just make sure you're not going full 300RPM at longer distances.
2.0x zoom on the sights is helpful too, to make them a little chunkier.
The rear part of the iron sight, make sure that doesn't include too much enemy leg in view or your shots might be off.
Plus sometimes it just takes time to warm up to the gun.
Give it a few games and you'll have a better feel for it, that's honestly the best advice.
If you can deal with the flipflappin toggle of the Luger rifle you might prefer that since it's softer shooting(to the Liu factory, not storm) and has better sights.
Sorry if that's too simple advice but it's just something you need to warm up to mostly.

I personally prefer the storm since it's easier to deal with dudes up close and you don't need to fire that fast at range anyway.

ty vm for the tips
much appreciated senpai

Dumbest thing you've seen recently?
>our attack plane trying to dogfight enemy fighter while our fighter ignores the enemy meme bomber to try and farm with shitty trench darts that got nerfed months ago

Well it is an American board and mostly and American game and right now most Americans are at work or having sex with girls or whatever the fuck it is that normalniggers do.

effortposting deserves a (you)

Best Support weapons list coming through: + VARIANTS EDITION

Browning M1917
>Low weight

Perino
>Low weight

Lewis
>Low weight
>Suppressive
>Optical

MG15
>Low Weight
>Suppressive
>Storm

Madsen
>Trench
>Storm
>Low weight

Parabellum
>Low weight

Benet-Mercie
>Telescopic
>Storm
>Optical

IMG08/18
>Low weight

Chauchat
>Low weight

BAR
>Storm
>Trench
>Telescopic

Huot
>Low weight

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The BLACKED Smellriegal skin is called The Schrecken(((stein)))
What did DICE mean by this?

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I spent a whole day trying to use optical lmgs, I wanted to throw up afterwards
Only the perino defensive was partially usable

>BAR telescopic
>that bad

Best LMG of all LMG's desu

>510 days since release
>day 1 bugs still unfixed

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>nearby medics
>xxmetalxxgearxx 1m
>TrumpIsJesus 3m
>2871235074 5m
>bleed to death waiting

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is this board fixed yet

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the French garrison has barricaded themselves inside of Fort Vaux

>only the site breaking could save /bfg/ from dying

There's a lot of things out of whack on this list.
At least you know that low weights are the best variants.

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weapon dispersion is a good mechanic

1v1 me

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>big youtuber has no clue
shocking news

>2011 counts as old school these days

You mean the high bullet spread the guns have?
It totally is.
It's all the other mechanics around it that are influencing it to be weird but people put the blame on spread.

>compare Battlefield to Pubg/Fortnite/Siege

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If I aimed for that kill and didn't get it then what's the fucking point?
If even with supression a scout can out snipe my Cei-Rigotti just because even with headshots the thing happens to be completely worthless at longer ranges just because the game decided that, despite my own individual skill, I must not get that kill because that'd make shitters feel bad, that just makes me want to go back to BF4 and run around with my QBU-88, punishing scrubs for being stationary, highly predictable targets and headshotting them from any range with no regards to their feelings, and the game actually allowing me to do so.

Like shit, I could even outplay SKS shitters with a PWD-R back in the day. Why can't I do the same with assault SMGs? Even the 08/18 spergs out without supression as some retarded medic manages to get an RNG kill on me. That's just shit game design for a multiplayer game.

As it stands it just makes me feel like not playing the game anymore.

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yeah.

>bf is a precise competitive shooter
good joke m8t

All shooters are about as competitive as you want them to be. In my case, my fun in BF always comes from staying alive as much as possible and the feeling that with the right decisions and the right timing that is always something you can do, and death isn't an inevitability until you fuck up. I don't even tryhard, I just can't have fun unless I'm being pushed to the best of my ability, and replay value is best found in the concept of self improvement.

BF1 goes against all that, though.

Reruns you're tired of seeing
>nobody shoots the planes episode
>supports don't drop ammo episode
>100 star meme bomber goes 32-0 in the first 3 minutes episode

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pure skill

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>If I aimed for that kill and didn't get it then what's the fucking point?
Battlefield has a whole bunch of exploitable stats that help diversify the weapon roster.
Some weapons weapons have better spread than others so that some weapons good at close or medium ranges don't become good out to ranges outside of their effectiveness.
And if you are using it outside of it's effective range then you have to use some skill to do so.
This is to help to stop a tiny handful of weapons truly being better than others and means that you can also diversify other weapon stats since you know that since it won't be easy to use a weapon outside of its optimal purpose, you can make it very good at that optimal purpose since you know that spread will stop it from being too effective outside of that purpose.
Vast majority of weapons (not all) in BF1 have some kind of unique purpose or ability, which is a fairly decent accomplishment.

>If even with supression a scout can out snipe my Cei-Rigotti just because even with headshots the thing happens to be completely worthless
This is a legit issue.
Not for why you're saying exactly though.
The bolt actions are in my opinion the number 1 cause of a lot of issues in BF1.
Much of the game has made to accommodate bolt actions since the mass of whiners who don't even play the games would complain if they weren't as relevant.
The spread of most weapons has been dropped to the point so that bolt action have an edge over them.
And the medic weapons which come close to their accuracy aren't as easy to use as the bolt actions.

Cont.

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>BF1 goes against all that, though.
dispersion cuts both ways
it both saves and takes
sometimes you walk away unscathed from a firefight against 10 dudes
sometimes you die running 300meters away from an autistico

it is very excite
and actually realistic
it's rare to have military standard firearms to have sub-moa accuracy
most military kills involve volume of fire and positioning than accuracy itself
in that sense the skill element in this game is less shooting and more about positioning

The other big thing causing higher spreads is capacity.
Capacity is made a big deal of in this game since it's a time period where a lot of weapons didn't have big mags.
So weapons with larger mags generally have higher spread or other detrimental elements, where weapons with much smaller mags have better spreads usually ones with smaller ones get better spread or as good spread with not crazy recoil or something.
This whole capacity thing as main pillar of balance is dumb and not very creative I feel.
This is coming from someone who likes the Liu a lot.

So it's not the spreads fault exactly, it's other elements to this game that are influencing the spread to be bad.
Also I should add that some parts of the game have changed drastically when it comes to spread, presets and damage, while others haven't so it's like this weird Frankenstein's monster of a game at the moment where some things just don't gel with each other.
All of these can be alleviated by the a non-WW1 setting and hoping DICE learnt its lessons from this game.
That's my two cents

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>280p
cant see shit chief

Is that how BF1 looks on consoles? Jesus.

Skillreigel skillspray

Just a really shit gif, it looked fine when I posted it tho

>'a conflict' dongtag speedrun takes 22 fucking minutes
youtube.com/watch?v=hFJgh1dG7mA
Fuck me, and I thought the first one was tedious as shit

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a cheap weapon for kikes

>throwing gas grenades fucking everywhere like i always do
>ding!
>killed schlomoshekelberg
>gas grenade
>mfw

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Still sad about no Serbia
You know, the cause of World War 1

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>BF1 has less viewers on twitch than For Honor.

D E A D G A M E

F U C K Y O U D I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I C E

Recommended medic loadout for simultaneous reaper+scavenger? Using Fucker-Hill and Nagant for big mags.

>conflating streamer popularity and game activity

>some poor sucker is streaming bf3
>26 poor souls are watching it

>pg 10
more scoops comon

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i hope it's going to cost me $120 to buy the full game again

You know what, on second thought, fuck this. It isn't challenging, it isn't fun, it's just fucking stupid. Play stupid fucking games win stupid fucking prizes. Hit yourself in the balls 500 times to unlock an exclusive lifetime reward of being sterile, you fucking moron.
Fuck DICE and fuck everyone darker than a Twinkie.

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you know it is

i hate levelcap so goddamn much
hes even worse than that biased piece of shit mashed8

cool pic, saved for /pol/

>blaming DICE for EAs game policy

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BF1's movement system is so good looking back to other titles

>CoD flopped hard in recent years
>BF1 drew in those disenfranchised
>now they want battle royale and CoD experience

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