>low rank killer >get a couple of people with 800,1,000+ hours >they literally loop me all game and there's nothing I can do about it >surprised when I camp while their fucking teammates come ass rush the hook Is this normal for this game?
I literally feel anxious to play killer but never survivor
Venomous Touch Your attacks are laced with an otherworldly toxin that grows more debilitating over time.
Survivors struck by your attacks are affected by a series of worsening afflictions over two minutes 0-30 seconds - mangled 30-60 seconds - mangled + blind 60-90 seconds - mangled, blind, exhausted 90-120 seconds - mangled, blind, exhausted and hindered, then it wears off.
Strands of Life The hurried footfalls of survivors are prone to disrupting the delicate web of the Entity
Survivors who run for a cumulative 30/25/20 seconds have their auras revealed for 3/4/5 seconds. Each survivor has a cooldown for activating this effect of 30 seconds.
Obsolescence Your connection to the entity causes you to emanate an aura of decay and disrepair
Generators within your terror radius and 10/20/30 seconds after leaving it regress autonomously when not being worked on by survivors.
The third one is weakest in my opinion, but I tried to think of things that were a touch more usable than say....surveillance.
Blake Campbell
>that last perk on Fuck Your Gens UP/Distressing Doctor Jesus
Michael Ward
Never ever.
They refuse to do it even though they acknowledge they did him dirty
>freddy is strong against no self-care and weak against self-care >he's the second least fun killer to fight under doc due to maphacks >we fucking butchered him due to kneejerk complaints and can't be bothered to tweak him in the most minor of ways
>auto-aim for killers >Struggle button just doesn't work sometimes and automatically kills you >terror radiuses are bugged and will be at medium level when the killer is right next to someone The Xbox version is killer kino, consoles win this one
Eli Rodriguez
You forgot
>locked 23fps for killers
Evan Barnes
Completely normal. With high level SWF play all you can do is hope that they are suicidal in their commitment to either altruism or bullying the killer and get themselves fucked for it. An SWF team that wants to win is going to win every time except against the most top tier killers like Nurse.
Owen Walker
>I read that as Finger Guns Doctor
Jack Watson
>survivor plays like a complete faggot all game >surprised when i camp him Why are survivor mains so fucking entitled? They always expect the killer to play fair after they just got pallet looped for the hundredth time. They can pallet loop, use bitchboy perks (SC and DS), teabag and flashlight, but the moment the killer camps or tunnels they cry non-stop.
Because the developers have been catering to them all game and promoting this behaviour. Game mechanics and incentive systems influence how people play and which players commit to a particular game. If the systems incentivized more respectful play you'd see far more of it.
Jaxon Martinez
Struggle button giving out is also on PC. Or, used to be; hasn't happened to me in a while.
Jaxson Edwards
I feel like one of the main concerns is that games with 8-12 hooks tend to be more tense and exciting, and fun for both sides while games with 1-4 hooks are either due to camping or genrushing, both sides tend to have low scores and people have less fun.
If you chase people forever and can't get any hooks either due to d-strike or flashlights, or even just failling to down due to loops and such you feel shitty, but if you don't kill anyone but hook a lot and come out with 25-30k you still feel good.
The higher you go, the more optimally people play and survivors tend to have the edge on that front, and generators can get done really quickly, far too quickly to the point that killers feel like ruin and noed are mandatory just to try to get a decent match length.
Those are my thoughts anyway
Grayson Ramirez
You approach her, eating the spaghetti for strength and confidence. Hell, you even offer her some but she doesn't seem to want any. What is Dwight's next move?
Yeah, the game should be structured so that survivors end up on a hook pretty fast when they got spotted (unless they can lose the killer outright) but they have multiple lives due to how the hook system works. Instead survivors are incentivized to loop and waste the killers time, actively seeking him out to fuck with him. And the killer is incentivized to tunnel that person to death since the survivors start with all the momentum and the killer has to shut their speed down.
Jack Gray
Bribe her with bloodpoints to date you
Cameron Green
Its not tight enough around her head in game to make it have cat ears, & why so aggressive m8.
>Make your choice doesn't trigger How come? Is it because you chose to down the Jake?
Carter Stewart
That was to dodge Borrowed time, the video has nothing to do with MYC. MYC just functions like Devour Hope, you need a minimum safe distance from the dehook for it to trigger.
Jason Rodriguez
>underaged shitters crying about their e-celebs being banned Feels good.
Christian Jones
You offer her Bond in exchange for her Quick and Quiet. She doesn't seem to want it. What is Dwight's next move?
Offer her Bond, 2 bloody streamers and a handful of spaghetti for SB
She accepts and goes to teach you by taking a track starting position When you get up to sprint to slip on spaghetti and trip into the fire
Juan Phillips
Wait, so what was the big announcement they said they were going to do on Thursday?
Eli Rodriguez
>"Hey Meg I heard your only trait as a character is that you run fast, so I wanted to compliment you on how fast you run"
Hudson Lee
Shove the teachable down her throat
David Hughes
Dwight why did you not offer leader ffs
Daniel King
They finally got the rights to everyone's favourite Friday the 13th: The Game character: Debbers.
Ian Bell
Give her your watch
Colton Gonzalez
Why aren't perk loadouts or character level considered in the matchmaking? I understand there can be people in brown ranks that can't survive even on a full meta load-out, but it's clear as day it's an enormous disadvantage even when it's only two people with full loadouts against a killer that barely got it's first perk. As a survivor I've been matched countless times with literal R20s. And in Rank Resets, when I'm trying perkless runs or achievements for killers I don't play, pretty much every match is people with all their best perks, Odd Bulbs and BNPs.
I think they said that they found more important that people got a game faster rather than a game on their own rankings? Of course I doubt they used that wording, that'd be admitting they're fucking over low rank killers just to please survivors, but still.
Kayden Anderson
Because if they did that, you wouldn't be able to switch to a suntube at the last moment, meaning killers would be able to use Franklin's Demise only when the survivor loadout calls for it instead of having to either use it at all times or never use it ever.
Connor Lewis
Quick rundown?
Nathaniel Taylor
A person called No0b or something like it has been banned along with his friends. No exact word as to why they were all banned but many assumed it's because he did a video showing an exploit.
Justin Scott
Taking notes from the Entity, you cram the teachable right down her throat until she takes it instead of something useful. She likes David, right? What's the harm in being a little forceful?
I don't think survivors have crutches aside from maybe DS, because you should be able to escape a killer unless the killer is better than you. In that instance it is a crutch for lack of skill.
Can't think of any other perks that are. SC isn't since it can only be used if someone escapes a killer, which is skillful. As someone said last thread, the only time someone is going to fully heal during a chase is if they are being chased by an unskilled killer, so that doesn't count.
Benjamin Morgan
See how far you can fit your hand into her mouth
Cameron Lopez
ochido got banned
Ryder Gomez
Empathy is better
More range, and fits the purpose you'd want out of seeing other survivors, I.E to heal them and to also know the whereabouts of the killer. Seeing healthy survivors really doesn't help you out so much, the range increase on empathy makes the trade off 100% more worth than bond.
Owen Cox
oh boy we're taking the meme fetish answers again
Dylan Cruz
Survivor crutches are DS, BT, DH, SB and SC
Killer crutches are BBQ, NC and NOED
This is the objective truth don't even try and argue.
Zachary Watson
>Being this booty blasted your choice wasn't picked.
It helps if your purpose is using your Leader to rush gens or as a replacement for Self-Care and get heals from other people. Also helps to know where gens in proximity are, if they're being worked on and if it's safe to continue in whichever you are so you don't 3-gen yourselves. IMO both fit different purposes so there's not that much reason to compare them.
Alexander Reed
Fuck her corpse.
Charles Hill
Throw Meg into the fire to dispose of the evidence
Eli Butler
Stuff the spaghetti in her mouth looking like she choked on food.
Zachary Anderson
second
Joshua Jones
this
Michael Richardson
>used to main Myers because I love Halloween >usually averaged around 2-3 kills a match, this was early 2017 >Huntress comes out >main her for months, too much fun and love playing her >used to average 2-3 kills, now around 3-4 with speed addons >this week try to level Myers >no answer to any survivor moves; loops, infinites etc. >can't play Myers for more than two matches before switching back to Ana
It hurts, fellas. I want to main my guy but I just cant take this level of disrespect.
While self-care is a crutch, I feel that the game is balanced around it now and that not running it is basically suicide.
NOED is the only perk there that can be considered a crutch and even then it is a weak one that can be disabled at any time.
Juan Edwards
Nope, not taking the bait. Only interested in conversing with people who play this game at a high level.
Julian Anderson
SC isn't a crutch since it can only be used if someone escapes a killer, which is skillful. As someone said last thread, the only time someone is going to fully heal during a chase is if they are being chased by an unskilled killer, so that doesn't count.
Ayden Scott
The meta is to have 3 people do separate gens while one loops. The reason you don't group on gens is because if the guy looping happens to run your way the killer can lock down the progress of 4 people while simultaneously removing pallets from the map, it's a really bad scenario.
And you can see the nearby gens, they have huge lights towering above them, finding gens isn't a problem, and you can always assume they're working on gens so having that info doesn't do anything for you, but knowing where the killer is and being able to see a survivor who is needing healing is huge, and the range makes the perk superior in filling out these 2 most important of benefits you get from running perks designed to do the same thing, to gather info on your surroundings.
Leader is kind of a meme perk, I honestly wouldn't take it if I were you.
Jackson Lopez
I suppose a better term for it would be that self-care subverts core game design and makes the game be played in a way it wasn't intended to be. But at the same time it's been in since launch and the devs clearly are balancing around the idea that everyone has it, so just removing self-care wouldn't fix anything.
Joseph Miller
>SC isn't a crutch since it can only be used if someone escapes a killer >Bodyblock a killer carrying someone >Take a hit >Run off and heal as there's not threat of the killer >Get healed >do it again >Not a crutch because its enabling you to endlessly pull of what would be a dangerous play without risk or harm. Fucking short sighted niggerfaggot survivor mains I swear to christ.
Lincoln Morris
Just make it single charge only. Once per trial, be able to heal yourself without the use of a medkit.
Aiden Johnson
>DH That perk is so finnicky and subject to latency that I would never call it a crutch. MAYBE if the games had good servers with as little lag as possible. As survivor it has saved my ass few times or only bought me one more second before going down, and as killer it has only fucked me if it's someone injured running to the gates (and they time it right, which again, is subject to latency). Most of the time Dead Hard barely does anything other than irritate me because it'll take me one more swing to down the fucking David that has been on my ass every single second to farm the fucking hooks goddamn I hate you so much David
And by the logic of calling NC and BBQ&C "crutches", we might as well call every tracking perk a crutch. I understand BBQ&C to an extent but there's still a lot of wiggle room for counterplay, once you learn which killers will use it the most (Billy, Nurse, Huntress) you can know it's there before even seeing it in effect, and once you know it's there you know how to counter it. Same with Nurse's Calling, although it's hard to gauge when playing against stealth killers.
It is probably bait but I like to have a discussion if we can turn it into a calm and positive one.
Josiah Murphy
That would be fair. You could even make it somewhat increase the chances of getting a medkit, except I think they already wasted that potential rework on a shitty DLC perk.
Chase Miller
There’s nothing wrong with Pharmacy, there’s no reason to give a potential “buff” to SC to countact a major nerf when it’s enough of a crutch as is. If gutting it encouraged people to run shit like Pharmacy/Bond/Empathy/We’ll Make It it’d be even better.
Isaiah Sanders
Start talking to yourself then, elitist retard. >Servers It's P2P, and if you go into a game where you can visibly see in the pre game lobby that the ping is bad with DH then you have no one to blame but yourself. I will admit DH is at the bottom of the list but the subjective scenarios that I've experienced with it as a trapper player has definitely conditioned me to see DH as a hard counter to trapper. Maybe it's not a crutch for other killers but it is vs trapper, is the only concession I'll make.
I don't run SC and I manage, I bring a health kit to soak up a hit or 2 and if I go down then that's on me, I hit my limitation as a survivor, the problem is that it's an infinite get out of jail free card for survivors who can just keep getting hit over and over with severely lacking consequences in comparison. SC boosts otherwise rank 20 survivors to green rank.
Nolan Williams
>once you learn which killers will use it the most (Billy, Nurse, Huntress) you can know it's there before even seeing it in effect, and once you know it's there you know how to counter it Here's the dirty little secret about survivor mains. They don't want to think, they want to auto pilot loop every match.
Its like seeing a pig, wraith or freddy and not instantly putting totem cleansing at a first and foremost because if you just auto-pilot gens you're going to get noed'd in the ass.
They don't do it though. Then they complain that NOED is a perk for shitters.
Luke Long
I miss launch NOED.
Dominic Cooper
>balancing around the idea that everyone has it Explain Freddy, who becomes less shit when nobody runs SC. I don't think the devs balance around meta. A similar situation happens with Pig's Ambush Dash, which is heavily countered by Sprint Burst. The little balance they have is probably around perkless or the perks that are available to newer players, not old ones.
Lery's isn't an easy map to find gens, nor is The Game. In Swamp or Red Forest most of the time it'll be too foggy to see them from afar and auras are easier. And true, the first three gens are more efficiently made separately, but the last two might be better to have one person solo and the other two working on one, in where Leader helps. PLus a little boost on people who is healing you (and you're not running SC) helps. And really if we're gonna talk meta, then I wouldn't run either Empathy or Bond because, as you said, the meta requires people working separate. And for that it's better to run the meta perks so whatever mistake you make can be reverted easily (SC/SB/DS/BT). I don't need to know where the killer is if whenever he gets on my ass I can run away, loop him forever and have the other guys working on the gens. I get hit? SC. Unsafe unhook? BT. and so on and so on.
I know it's P2P, that's why I mentioned "good servers". I probably could have worded it better. I hear you on Trapper though, I saw a David DH'ing over a trap and I wanted to kill him even more. I did.
Josiah Walker
You drag the corpse to the fire, only to remember that fire in the Entity's realm does not burn. While in a panic, you notice that everyone important saw you. Before you can explain, the Bond teachable oozes past her buck teeth and your spaghetti does the same to your pockets. WILL DWIGHT EVER FIND LOVE? TUNE IN NEXT THREAD TO FIND OUT!
Bond is one of my favorite perks in the game and it's hard for me to play without it.
If I'm running in a group, I switch out Empathy for DS, but the value of empathy cannot be understated in solo, I also run spine chill solo as well because on the odd chance there's an invisible killer I want to know about it before I let them free hit me, in a group I don't mind so much because they can tell me who is being chased and that frees me up to tunnel a generator or two. But anyway, the small little bonuses Bond supplies are completely outweighed by the primary tool you'd use an aura reading ability for, and that is to ascertain the killers location and survivors in need of healing, I hope I don't have to go on with such tautology but I just have to hammer that statement in just one more time.
Juan Garcia
>SC isn't a crutch Survivor mains should be systematically executed
Nicholas Edwards
Great response.
Retarded ranklet who's bad at the game response.
Nathaniel Garcia
Shit tier killermains should stop playing so they stop clogging all DBD discussion with screeches of unskilled players.
Eli Bell
Anything you guys can recommend playing on PS4 instead of this shitshow? I really want to stop playing this garbage.
