>3 gig update for bug fixes >In a game who's total file size is 5 gigs
$5 dollars says they patched in Broly and Bardock
Oliver Morales
Seriously why IS IAD from p1 so fucking difficult on a stick, it seriously hurts my hand almost.
Ian Gutierrez
>Who do you main? >Who do you want to main and why?
I go with A. Gohan on point, Vegeta mid, and 16 anchor. I want to pick up Piccolo because of Hell Zone Grenade mixup shenanigans, which look fun and cheap as hell to do. I want to unlock 21 and SSB Vegeta and try them out because they look fun as fuck to play as.
Its so frustrating to play this game, Playing defense isnt fun and I feel like im playing nothing but defense even when I'm winning. It's just not fun to be on the receiving end when I feel like I have so few options. Theres no worse feeling than sitting at neutral, and playing some kind of twisted guessing game of who is going to press a button, and if you guess wrong once you lose 30-80% of a bar with not a single safe option, you are literally just hoping with every button press they arent pressing the one normal they have that beats it. I feel like I cant get good at this game like I can at Melty blood or SF, Nothing feels safe on defense, there is never a proper response, I am never safe, I can only make huge assumptions, I dont like this game. it sucks to suck
Juan Gray
because most human beings use their thumb to do motions like that, which you can't do from the p1 position.
you're seriously not alone with this problem lol.
Jonathan Moore
Instant airdashing being too difficult for me might be the straw that's gonna cause me to stop practicing, it's such a fucking idiotic motion from the P1 side (and backdashing on P2), I'd rather do fucking Geese supers than this shit.
It's so important in this game too.
Colton Garcia
He only wears the shell
Luis Flores
I can't stop dropping combos. I'm thinking of switching from pad to keyboard.
Dominic Green
isn't there a WASD box now?
Gabriel Green
As much as I really do enjoy this game, it really does feel like it favors offense way too much. This game really needed another defensive option. As it stands, it really does suck having to block for a good 20 seconds, when you just KNOW you're going to fuck up and get opened up eventually. Even the best players can't block everything and there's some super cheap bullshit in this game. And when you do get opened up, you know you're most likely going to eat a 40-60% combo into a hard knockdown so you'll have to guess on wakeup again because it's not like this game's combos are that hard to execute. I really think the game could've used a combo breaker tag mechanic like MvCI.
I don't think IAD is THAT hard. I need to practice it a bunch but it's literally just holding up-back/up-forward, then back/forward, right?
Ethan Evans
easiest 5 bucks you ever made
Sebastian Reyes
you just suck at doing it on the p1 side. do intensive practice to force your brain and hands to do it right. it is what I do everytime I have trouble dashing in a certain direction Chris G and momochi spend hours doing the same advanced move/combo until it becomes natural and they stop dropping it
I need to practice it a bit but it's not really super uncommon that I get it.
Josiah Harris
iad is legitimately more difficult on p1 btw im sure i can find examples of pro players fucking it up on that side more than on p2.
that said it's not impossible.
Gabriel Jenkins
>Chris G and momochi spend hours doing the same advanced move/combo until it becomes natural and they stop dropping it
Is this actually true? How much time do pros spend grinding shit out? I can't spend more than a half hour grinding out a combo or tech before I get bored
Nolan Mitchell
>>Who do you main? Hit, because he's unique, ground-based, and a TON of fun to lab out. 16, because I play big bodies/grapplers in every fighter and DBFZ being a game where that character is Top 3 won't stop me. Tien, because I like him as a character, he has a lot of options that I can wrap my head around, and he shits out damage and oki with bars. >>Who do you want to main and why? Broly. The 12 seconds of gameplay we have are all I need to know. Armor, traditional grappler playstyle, armor, shits damage, armor, huge hitboxes, etc. Plus that stomp that's basically A. Gohan's j.2S with a hitbox on it seems REALLY scary considering how wide Broly is.
I'd like to keep 16 & Tien. I'll drop Hit for Broly since he's much more my speed. Maybe I'll end up picking up Cooler too, but he'd need to cover what 16 or Tien bring to the table.
I mean I can do it SOMETIMES, but it's frustrating because I can do it a billion times in a row on p2 without ever failing.
Ryder Howard
oh and this issue is exclusive to arcade sticks.
hitbox/keyboard/pad don't really have an excuse and it's basically the same thing on both sides for those players, so don't whine if you use any of those.
Wyatt Kelly
you can find it in many interviews on the net. one time jwong said that he hates looking at momochi training because momochi will keep doing the same execution have combo for 3 hours while he prefers to to go straight into the throw down
Luis Hernandez
A hitbox is just a $200 keyboard with lots of missing buttons. Unless you go to locals stick with a keyboard.
Owen Clark
Why is this a stick problem exactly?
Aaron Butler
I practice IAD by dashing forward (or backward) then IADing back immediately. Then dash forward again and IAD forward. Repeat until you want to cry. You can't really IAD unless you can do it from another position other than neutral.
James Reyes
it's harder from neutral to me.
Luke Allen
>>Who do you main? Vegeta Blue: the description of fuck defense and go all power Yamcha for assist extending after dunk AGohan for assist extending after dunk and he's dumb and i can just mash Light
>>Who do you want to main and why? Broly cause I like big nigs and possibly Bardock cause youtu.be/1KqvQj1Efeo?t=231
>characters are clearly finished >refuse to release them so you can artificially drum up HYPE >to top it all off its two characters who should have been in the base roster I'm so sick of video games.
I can iad on the right side with just my thumb, no other fingers need to be on the stick,you need to use your entire hand almost to do it on the left side.
It's super difficult to me and I hate being so used to an arcade stick because of it, I can't really go back to a pad after 1000s of hour on stick.
Aaron Gonzalez
>try to active swap >it just brings out the assist and I eat shit I dont even know how I'm fucking this up ever.
How many characters can do two or more supers in one combo, solo? I know yellow Goku can combo two kamehameha supers into each other, and Cell can do stuff like webm related.
pretty much all characters can characters with assist or sparking like in the webm. cell and nappa, black any many others can do two level 1s in the same combo as well, even without sparking.
Carson Lopez
how do you hold your stick?
Noah Gomez
I think Videl has real potential as a character built around not being hit. Give her a counter, a ducking-like technique that can cross up depending on the strength pushed, maybe a Demon Flip-esque move with multiple followups.
Cameron Lee
>solo >assist I mean yeah I can imagine a lot of characters can do it with assists or DHCs, Vegeta can do an EX DP after a DHC combo to extend it for example. I was just curious how many can do it if they're your last living character. >cell and nappa, black any many others can do two level 1s in the same combo as well, even without sparking. How?
Jason Hall
my bad i didnt see you put solo
Levi Scott
Thumb and index finger normally. But I push the stick when I dash and IAD though. Either with my thumb or my hand.
Camden Reyes
See it's the pushing the stick with your hand thing that gets me when I try IAD on p1.
Matthew Jenkins
How in the fuck do I cancel Gohan's df+H into a super jump so that I can continue his Lvl. 0 corner loops?
The hard knockdown on M God Slicer must be tied to Smash, since you didn't get a zoom in on the final hit. You likely used it up with your j.2H.
Try it without the j.2H and then again starting from grounded 2H which has different properties in regards to Smash (it lets you get the down smash knockdowns.
If you really want to do a 1-bar knockdown from that combo, just burn a bar on EX God Slicer instead of Vanish.
Camden Reed
Couple questions for you autists in here:
1. Is Adulthan broken? 2. Is 16 broken? 3. Is Vegeta good? 4. Is Hit bad? 5. Will GO1 ever be stopped? 6. Are you ready for SonicFoxBlanco?
>mfw dumb americans realizing JUST NOW how broken AG is
Henry Jones
why does no one play fat buu when he has the best mixup potential in the entire game? just because he's hard to play?
Jonathan Scott
just not short hair though please, we need pig tails
Daniel Hughes
1. yes 2. yes 3. yes 4. yes 5. maybe 6. no
Easton Hernandez
>1. Is Adulthan broken? Yes. >2. Is 16 broken? A little. >3. Is Vegeta good? Mid tier as a motherfucker, but so simple and solid that anybody can learn him and do decently with him. Combine that with the best assist in the game and he's worth playing. >4. Is Hit bad? I'm gonna say Upper-Mid. He's got disgusting blockstrings, strong neutral, is full of mindgames, and so on. He simply lacks a good low, but if he had that he might be TOO good you know? Sonic was generally going into muscle memory with him in this tournament, which fell apart against GO1. >5. Will GO1 ever be stopped? Eventually, once people start leveling up their defense, figuring out how to fight Gohan (or Gohan gets nerfed), and finding out new tech. >6. Are you ready for SonicFoxBlanco? Is anybody? I can only imagine the tech he'll find with Gohan & Hit since he won't drop Hit.
Liam Gonzalez
He breaks every single universal combo route in the game, he covers weird angles, his 5M is completely unlike all the others, he needs resources and assists to keep things going. Right now, like Piccolo, you'll only get character specialists. In the future, maybe 2-3 people will main him.
Joshua Flores
>just because he's hard to play? Yes
Jace Nelson
Never mind, I figured it out, the last autocombo L (the j.5H version) was the culprit. It works if I vanish after j.S into 236L.
The combo itself isn't even relevant, I was just testing if M God Slicer works for Vanish conversions period. More likely I'd try it after hitting a random Kamehameha or something.
Evan Turner
Last post before I stop spamming my awful webms. Would this setup ever work on a real person, assuming they hold down the button to air tech ASAP and don't press buttons right after? I really wish this had killed, oh well
It could probably work yes, I uptech all day long so it'd likely work against me once, twice if I'm playing dumb that day.
But once the opponent see's it once you probably shouldn't do it again that often or they'll be able to predict when it's coming.
Also you might be able to kill if you use 236H godslicer, it does slightly more damage iirc.
Brayden King
>Also you might be able to kill if you use 236H godslicer, it does slightly more damage iirc. I actually just tried and it kills if I use Light Grenade level 1 instead of GSD level 1 with Black, then combo into Veggie level 1 and Cell level 3. Don't need the EX God Slicer.
Mason Collins
I think the EX Godslicer actually does the same damage anyway, could be wrong though.
Lincoln Richardson
You know ive played a lot of tekken and other competitive online games and i dont think ive ever wanted to see more characters nerfed in a single game than i have seen in dragon ball fighterz
Android 16 is just fucking retarded a complete fucking mess
Goku blacks down heavy has such a huge range and always seems to connect its a wonder why people use anything else
And adult gohan is almost as gay as android 16
Will these ever be fixed? Its like as soon as i see someone play these characters i instantly assume they have not played any other character in the game.
Is Arc system works worried that if they nerf baby characters shitters will go back to playing fortnite?
Name one traditional fighting game that releases a balance patch after just one month from release.
Jaxon Cox
It's missing some characters
Julian Campbell
ArcSys isn't Netherrealm; they don't patch shit every single month. I'd expect 2 balance patches a year, which is good. Unless some truly gamebreaking bug is found the game won't die just because Gohan & 16 are kinda busted and Black has too good of a 2H.
Thomas Murphy
Marvel 3 got a patch like Week 2 because people complained about fucking Sentinel. In the grand scheme of things he ended up being on the lower part of Mid-Tier and mostly good for Drones, but Month 1 Marvel 3 was people thinking that Level 3 Sentinel anchors were actually gonna be the meta. I still wonder how things would've been different if Sent kept 1.3 Million life, but then I usually realize that it'd change jack shit outside of certain matches changing a bit because of him not dying from a combo he would at 790k.
I think you're right, EX just speeds it up iirc. And here's the kill version. Now to test this against a real person. Note that this only works because Black's M/H divekick refreshes his air mobility (airdash, double jump) for some reason. I wonder if there's any other cool tech you could do with this.
>just because he's hard to play? Pretty much, why learn a rewarding character when you can play Black instead.
Also his 5L whiffs crouching opponents all the fucking time, its really annoying.
Dylan Nelson
I've been away from the game for a few days, but Final Round has made me want to play again. I'll open up a Ring Match on PS4 if there's enough interest.
Hey dummies, there are two arenas so 4 people can fight at once.
Liam Sanders
You'll be fine
Nathaniel Butler
t-the lag hurts
Bentley Hall
holy shit that gohan
Ethan Thompson
This seems pretty close to optimal to me without bringing in my Beerus assist which has ridiculous timing restraints. Any advice on how I could get more out of this?
