Question about parrying with one-handed curved swords in both hands, what parrying data used, same as curved swords off-hand or hilt parry frames? (Animation same as off-hand, but wiki data tells that thrusting swords and daggers, when in both hands have their exclusive parry animation, but hilt parry frames) Duplicate from previous thread.
Mason Green
>can't win any invasions >effortlessly go 20-0 in undead match Proof that (successful) invaders are objectively better at PVP than honoraburu duel fags?
Nolan White
what?
Caleb Morales
>You picked a name so lore friendly it confuses people into thinking you're another npc phantom
it doesn't matter because it still does slash on it lmao
Gabriel Lewis
Bastard Sword and it's stupid curved guard makes it not fashionable, just an effective, underrated killing instrument.
Henry Scott
Anyone wana do fightclubs tonight on PS4? I'm thinking about going about it in a few hours. I'm so fucking tired of pontiff clubs, so let's choose a different location
>PVE Claymore is good, but it actually need stats to get better.
Ayden Jones
Is having 15 faith for blessed weapon worth it on a 66 strength character (Dark Souls 3 obviously)? Is the increase significant or could I just put the extra points into vitality/dex/whatever?
>bastard/claymore have higher AR raw than flamberge wew
Sebastian Perez
Just a thought I had: I never had a problem with Iudex Gundyr because I had already mastered DS1, he's only killed me maybe twice. But as a tutorial boss, he seems far more advanced than Asylum Demon (or Vanguard or Lost Giant, definitely not Gascoigne). I feel if I was playing for the first time, I'd have a far tougher time with him than I ever did with booty demon. Can soulslets here confirm whether he's tough or not?
Having moderate success in either, I'd say it's just a different skillset/mindset. However, invaders generally have many more scenarios to account for
Michael Baker
I want to rub Firekeeper's Dark Soles
Gabriel James
Maybe go 34 VIG and 35 END, hit the soft caps with Prisoner Chain, so you have the points to spare for STR and FTH?
Christopher Myers
Flamberge has bleed tho, which is supposed to equalize things. Whether it does I dunno, I've never used bleed on anything that wasn't the Demon Princes
Brayden Ramirez
Depends on the weapon and if you can afford it, but it's not a horrible idea, especially if you started knight
>implying you're gonna proc bleed before killing anything >implying you're gonna proc bleed on bosses with slow GS swing >it's still gimped bleed proc with 50 base damage wew
Jose Jenkins
Dark Souls 3 was my first souls game. I started as a pyromancer. You can just spam him with fireballs and he dies pretty easy, I beat it first try. Not sure about new players using different classes, though.
Xavier Clark
Successful invaders are by far better players than duelists, since they usually deal with more than one person at a time in severely unfair conditions (unless lucky) on top of the other stuff duelists deal with. That, and they're not afraid to use tactics that others would consider underhanded because they know what they're doing and how people will react.
Meanwhile, the average duelist will up and stop fighting if one of their arbitrary unspoken PvP rules are broken by their opponent. They'll BC out, they'll spam Applause while rolling away from you, they'll even straight up Alt+F4 if they don't like what you're doing.
Charles Ortiz
The good times in dark souls 2 as benhart and gravewarden
True enough. I remember seeing invaders like Prod randomly jumping in the arena with weapons they never used before and just tearing shit up with a build that wasn't even optimized.
Charles Foster
ds3 was my first souls game ever took me roughly 5 tries, after I got the hang of the gameplay he is pretty easy, strafe and you'll be fine it felt like a huge victory though
Dominic Foster
AOTA > Ivory > Iron > Sunken > Ringed > Ariandel
Tyler Hill
Why do people say armor doesn't matter in DS3?
Kevin Reyes
Because some people are actually good at the game and don't need crutches like armor because >getting hit
Asher Carter
>ivory above anything lmao 2cats
Yes, I'm still mad.
Tyler Wilson
>implying you're gonna proc bleed before killing anything At +2? Yeah, plenty of time. Make Irithyl slaves cakewalk. Also proc in on champion without rouge. Let's leave our ebin "wew" and stop at matter of preference. I don't think 3 AR is better, that it.
Colton Sanchez
Because it really doesn't. As long as you can get above 15 or 20% in the absorption categories, the only other thing worth building for are fashion and poise. The differences in the amounts of damage you take between a regular set of armor, and some shit like Full Havel's, isn't worth the investment since you're literally bargaining for something like 40 or 50 less damage taken per swing of an ultra, at most.
Lucas Allen
t. naked 7 vig 0 deaths dried finger solo runner
I believe it.
Christian Stewart
I played ds1 2 and 3 and facing Gundyr as caster is harder than melee for me, overall in 3 casting in front of an enemy that has no one other target but you seems like a good way to get hit to the face. Because the enemies are always so aggressive and in your face.
Austin Ross
>see a solo host easily kill two Aldrichts >duel him after and get a draw >add him on Steam to tell him he's pretty gud >doesn't respond Please respond I'm no going to throw salt I swear. This was literally the only person I fought all day who wasn't a ganker or a hacker.
A blue showed up during our fight but the host let me kill him before we resumed.
Aaron Bennett
>Successful invaders are by far better players than duelists, since they usually deal with more than one person at a time in severely unfair conditions (unless lucky) on top of the other stuff duelists deal with. That, and they're not afraid to use tactics that others would consider underhanded because they know what they're doing and how people will react. Someone who's pretty good at bonfire duels but pretty bad at invasions here. Part 2 really fucks with me, because I keep seeing the people I invade pretend to want a duel; I don't like being an asshole, so I oblige, and then get ganked by their 2 pals right after it starts.
Also, I think this really depends on what weapon you're using. Non-meta weapons can work well in duels, but usually fucking suck for invasions. If you can't chase someone down because you want to use a fun but not-so-good weapon, it's a real fucking pain.
Adam Morales
Cleric Beast is more reasonable ''first boss'' equivalent than Gascan.
Anyway, I definitely think a lot of newbies have trouble with Iudex if they haven't internalized the concept of iframes.
Jaxon Stewart
I think Gundyr is vulnerable to fire damage though, especially in second phase. Pretty sure he was getting stunned pretty regularly.
Adrian Jackson
I introduced my gf to Souls and she almost dropped the game at Iudex, she felt like she would literally never be able to beat him. A week later she was killing Lothric and Soul of Cinder and complaining that they were too easy. Spiked Mace build.
Iudex is a terrible first boss for a new player, it only works for Souls veterans.
Angel Gutierrez
Well I'm hitting the vig/end softcaps pretty comfortably so I guess I may as well just roll with it.
I was thinking about doing this but in the heat of getting invading/invading others/duels I'll probably forget to swap or something dumb. But then I could go to 16 dex and be splitmeme cancer if I decided to ring swap.
hodrick is such a bully he reads your inputs i hate this cunt
Cameron Jackson
Why do invaders think they're the best at pvp?
Robert Stewart
I played DaS3 after DaS1 and I struggled on him for a bit, choose the assassin class though and didn't know he could be parried. I spent most of DaS1 turtling behind a medium shield however so learning to evade rather than turtle was a learning experience.
You can easily hit 66/16 + 15fth on 120 if you don't care about poise that much. Otherwise 60/16 is good enough, you lose like ~20AR which doesn't even matter, because the number of hits to kill someone will be the same.
Jeremiah Ross
>the whip weapon art >sometimes it hits players from another timezone >sometimes the thing passes through players 3 times, dealing no damage, even when they don't roll Why the fuck is this thing so goddamn inconsistent. What is wrong with this game's netcode?
Jack Jones
Why would you do this?
Juan Nelson
how to pyro?
Cameron Taylor
What kind of weapons are whips? Long range or short range?
Thomas Roberts
Because they are desu senpai
Jaxson Clark
Anyone up for Soul of Cinder on PC? Password is dsg
William Reyes
anything which takes as much time to farm as the flamberge is really not a great pve anything
Xavier Nelson
tap fire surge
Zachary Ortiz
40/40 Int/Fai 24 Att with Black Flame, Vestiges/GCFO and Fire Surge Standard allotment into Vigor and Endurance Everything left into Str/Dex Witch's, Great Swamp, PChain/FaP+3, Sage's or off-hand Bellvine
Ryder Morales
be there in a second senpai
Eli Parker
Fair point. But it's not story teller stuff or thrall axe tier farm, or legendary falchion which i get as drop only one time in 1k hours.
John Sullivan
Alright, I'll be waiting next to the fog gate
Josiah Allen
>leave sign in front of a boss fog >get summoned >the host goes back to explore the area and you have to quietly follow him
I never have luck with the whip. The whip's gimmick is range but literally everything gets absurd amount of range online so you're stuck with this slow noodle that can't riposte/backstab/plunge attack. >b-but at least it can't be parried.
Joshua Sullivan
Depends on the move, and if it's being one handed or two handed. Some are long range snaps, some are short range but with a wide arc, some bypass shields, etc.
The weapon art involves flailing the thing around violently, almost entirely to your left hand side for some reason, and can hit something right in front of you or to your left up to 3 times (at least, in PvE). Things to your right only tend to get hit once, but it tends to bypass shields on that side. The very end of the weapon art is a long range snap that can hit just about fucking anything in PvE. In PvP, the speed of the whole thing and the weirdness of the attack pattern makes it really goddamn inconsistent, plus latency will likely let someone interrupt you even if you would otherwise have staggered them first.
Asher Rodriguez
>what is black separation crystal
Carson Young
Looks like the Crow Quills guy is wearing just cloth armor, so at best he isn't even hitting the 15% mark for physical absorption. Plus you're using Gael's, which deals Strike damage.
Adrian Cruz
Damn seem like epic weapons, why did I never try them? Damm
Zachary Perez
Thanks for the help
Brayden Perez
>Urge to make Whip build rising I want to make a pathetic joke character
Aiden Phillips
Having played DS1 and 2 prior, my first impression of Iudex was he didn't feel like a tutorial boss at all. Also, I hate his wibbly-wobbly second form, it's a pain to look at.
Tyler Wood
>why did I never try them? Because the only one that actually deals damage is the Witch's Locks, so you need to use a pyro build for it. And because it's terrible for invasions, or if there's any lag whatsoever.
You'll make it, play it once, then quit. It's a joke you only want to hear once.
Gabriel Edwards
>doing footsies against my opponent >my right stick has become super loose over time so whenever I even lightly press on it, it jumps >accidentally jump away from his attack three times, avoid all hits >wonder if he sees me as a shitter or a next level duelist Maybe I just made jump dodges the new meta.
Colton Campbell
He's also wearing fallen knight pants, which will get him to 15-16% abs with black leather chest and whatever helmet/glove. Strike is also the lowest physical defense on havel's set. Your point being??
Kayden Miller
That downscaling almost made me wet myself, I didn't notice it until we got in - had to spend first part of the second phase swapping my stuff around haha. It was fun tho.
You would only lose about 11 SL worth of AR if you used the sunlight straightsword instead, and that's not even taking its buff into account
Nolan Martin
You say that, but after 3 games I've never made a Whip build maybe this is the challenge I've been waiting for
Kevin Brown
because they're retards or they're playing pve
What really doesn't matter, poise aside, is armor minmaxing. If you've filled in every slot and are using up most of your equipload, your armor is probably fine. And, poise aside, it's almost never worth leveling vitality over health assuming your heals are hitting the top of your hp bar either way (which admittedly may not be the case, but still); even the 41st point of vigor adds a whole 1% more HP if you're wearing the ring of favor. With the same ring, one level of vitality adds 1.08 units of weight, of which you can use 70% if you plan to midroll, giving you 0.756 units of useable equipload. If you want to match the benefits vigor would give you, you need to be gaining 1% more absorption per 0.756 units of weight, or in other words, have a 1.322% absorption to weight ratio, and this is assuming you've already pretty much maxed out vig. Most armors have a ratio of less than 1% even in their best stat unless you're looking at really light stuff.
Jason Russell
stance is far better than oath in pvp
Robert Johnson
But notched whip has bleed which can be good.
Aiden Morales
Whip isn't a challenge, it's torture
Chase Ortiz
I'd imagine. We were SL25, and it was NG+ as well
Wyatt Miller
I don't disagree but I don't get a lot of stances in either way when using shield related, which is a great faith weapon
