/totalitarian utopia/

Every one is micro chipped at birth and all currency is cashless and published to a public ledger and everyone is tracked constantly with cameras and gps. Everyone's DNA is stored in a database for forensic purposes. In exchange everyone is guaranteed food and housing rations and the right to freely express their concerns at a local citizen's council.

Prove me wrong protip you literally can't.

user, you're posting on Veeky Forums, a place where people value being anonymous.

You're perfectly anonymous.

Until you're caught committing a crime.

Just like Veeky Forums.

We are almost already there.

If you have ever read a history book, you will know that such things have been tried before since the days of Plato, resulting in the mass starvation and political purging of millions upon millions of people. Since you posted this on a board dedicated to HISTORY AND THE HUMANITIES; I assume this is bait and that you are a sane person who has at least been schooled in some manner, so there is no reason anyone should think this.

If you genuinely believe this, you are either a sociopath who enjoys watching people suffer, or you are even more mentally retarded to the point that you need someone else to help you type this one short paragraph after about a month of hard thinking and planning by the standard of your utterly subhuman intelligence. If this is the case, I genuinely feel sorry for you, and I hope someone can free you from the pain of living in the near future.

>Literally can't
Is the description of your societal model (Collectivist Authoritarianism), not the nature of any rebuttal aimed against it. We don't have to prove you wrong, history already has.

The USSR was socialist, not communist.

So many words so little arguments.

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Real Platonism has never been tried.

I'm not even joking desu.

>Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics

who is this compu-cutie

Are you literally retarded? People have, before, in history, tried to run a societ with technology that is decades old?

Oh, nice pic, you aren't able to distinguish anything beyond superficial labels, got it.

> Democratic People's Republic of Korea

if corn is so easy to grow that farmers are paid NOT to grow to keep it profitable...


...and housing is so cheap to build people lobby for insane zoning laws to maintain their property prices...

...why must we pay for food and rent?

>the USSR wasn't socialist
>>>/leftypol/

I too, do wonder.

>the communist party wasn't communist

when did Veeky Forums realize people are like dogs, happiest when there is a heavy hand that feeds them with strong boundaries while having a job to do?

when did Veeky Forums realize that attempts at chaining humans, much like dogs, generally (but not always), leads to a biting of the hand that feeds?

Humans are trash and should never be in charge of themselves, we absolutely need a non-gangster computer god to rule over us. Ideally we would all then be hooked into a simulation where we all live as eternal anime, our memories erased so we might forget this awful existence.

>United States of America

I was using the picture to point out his general stupidity in proposing something that has literally been tried over and over again with no success, but with more idiots and altruistic dummies trying it over again all the same. It is not a critique of that particular system but of centralized power and government controlled redistribution of resources. pardon me if that was your impression, I should have explained the goal of the picture.

He did actually did (I know that this is not what you probably meant, but it might interest you)

"Throughout his later life, Plato became entangled with the politics of the city of Syracuse. According to Diogenes Laertius, Plato initially visited Syracuse while it was under the rule of Dionysius.[48] During this first trip Dionysius's brother-in-law, Dion of Syracuse, became one of Plato's disciples, but the tyrant himself turned against Plato. Plato almost faced death, but he was sold into slavery. Then Anniceris[49] bought Plato's freedom for twenty minas,[50] and sent him home. After Dionysius's death, according to Plato's Seventh Letter, Dion requested Plato return to Syracuse to tutor Dionysius II and guide him to become a philosopher king. Dionysius II seemed to accept Plato's teachings, but he became suspicious of Dion, his uncle. Dionysius expelled Dion and kept Plato against his will. Eventually Plato left Syracuse. Dion would return to overthrow Dionysius and ruled Syracuse for a short time before being usurped by Calippus, a fellow disciple of Plato."

>In exchange everyone is guaranteed food and housing rations and the right to freely express their concerns at a local citizen's council.

You don't seem to realize that once the people in power have complete control over the population's lives there is nothing keeping them obligated to up hold the citizens rights (food, shelter, and representation in the case of your scenario). Since no organized opposition could manifest if civilians are under complete surveillance and control the government would simply enslave the populace in which ever way most benefits them.

Also food, shelter, representation, and wealth in general are more easily obtained under free conditions were the individual is unrestrained by a hierarchy anyway, the whole idea is basically redundant.

>let's get enslaved by corporations who only exist to enrich a cadre of shareholders don't even guarantee you a job instead

>strawmaning because you can't come up with an argument