Times when the good guys lost

The South is full of Mexicans now, seems like their dream came true.

that's every time for me

Mainly in the Southwest though

Pic unrelated, I assume.

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Don't worry we are moving east gradually.

>And why the Hell would Mexico, central american countries, Cuba, and south american countries want to be owned by a bunch of slaveowners

But could they stop them?

William Walker tried and central americans pushed his shit

OH I'M A GOOD OL' YANKEE
WELL THAT'S JUST WHO I AM
FOR FUCKING ALL MY COUSINS
I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN!
EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND REBKEKS
LAY ROTTING IN THE DUST
I GUESS THAT WHOLE "SECESSION" MEME
TURNED OUT TO BE A BUST

Seeing how it was them vs the West, any number of powers would love to intervene in their plots.

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Guerrilla warfare in tropical countries is hell, look at what happened in the Philippines now multiply exponentially, its unsustainable in the long run.

That and both world wars. Also Napoleon.

>le murder praying grandmothers flag

>look at what happened in the Philippines

You mean where an irregular fighting force was put down by American marines after a few years?

>a country completely filled with nothing but niggers and spics

What's with the south a cuckoldry

Cuban guy here.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Cuba

I think if Cuba wasn't so utterly bombarded with leftist propaganda, it would actually be like a tropical equivalent of the bible belt. Something I couldn't speculate would transpire even here in South Florida. But that's all wishful thinking atm, though many churches are rising up there currently, a lot of work to be done.

of course, slavery would be out of the question.. think we've grown a bit since then.

maybe some day... in some distant future, that sort of union may realize itself through trade deals.

>inb4 some retarded comes in here regurgitating Francoist propaganda about the republic being a communist regime or whining about a few dead priests

You are only counting the period counted as the Philippine–American War, after that it had to commit troops to put local rebellion after local rebellion. Phillipines is 300,000 km2, "only" Mexico is 1,972,550 km2; and then you have to think about the rest of Central America (Who at that time formed a military coalition to stop William Walker), Cuba (who was still part of Spain), A great chunk of the Granadine Confederation, A piece of Venezuela, Haiti (who I don't would be very pleased to be part of a slaver holding)

>implying it wasn't a Marxist regime

>Who at that time formed a military coalition to stop William Walker

I hope you're not comparing the capabilities of Walker's motley crew of hastily assembled brigands to the capabilities of Confederate States of America

It wasn't. The communists were a tiny majority in the republican government prior to the war. La Pasionaria was just really loud.

The republic was only subverted by the USSR because literally no one else would sell them any weapons so in exchange for having a snowball's chance in hell of winning the war they had to let Joe Stalin take over the government.

If the ''''western democracies'''' hadn't been run by a bunch of pussies terrified of offending Hitler or Mussolini and helped put down Franco and friends' butthurt-fueled uprising the Bolsheviks would never have gotten the foothold that they did.

Why would anyone just lie like this?

I suppose not, but if you plan to get all the territory at once your army is going to be in rags by the time you get to central america, if you don't you are just going to let outside and inside forces prepare an unified force against american imperialism, in that time frame European powers were very giddy about letting people on in their game.

Furthermore, any acquisition would most likely be done piecemeal. Buying land here or there. Annexing states as southern settlers flood in. Offering incentives to join the confederacy. The "Golden Circle" certainly was never envisioned as a full on invasion of all of South & Central America at the same time.

For instance the president Dominican Republic approached the Grant administration after the civil war about being willingly annexed by the US. The proposal had the support of Grant himself, but the scheme fell through in Congress. Had the south won the civil war the same opportunity might have been presented to them except with political support.

Wrong.

Correct, along with
>Satsuma Rebellion
>Franco-Prussian War
>Mexican-American War
>War of 1812
>Napoleon's Invasion of Egypt
>The Maori Wars
>Vietnam War

But for how long would you do this? Most of the states envisioned had long abandoned slavery for example, and while most of the states encouraged white immigration it was mostly done with the provision that they wouldn't try to incite discontent against the established order; Conservative governments in close ties to the Catholic Church and local landowners wouldn't relish losing control to a goverment far away; Remember southern politicians were against the acquisition of Cuba and Philippines because they were worried about the dilution of the white state and giving voting rights and/or citizenship to non-whites.

>Army run my communists
>Catalonia almost exclusively anarchist
>large parts of the government run my marxists
>300000 leftists fleed to France after the war and countless were put into labour camps
Wew

>southern politicians were against the acquisition of Cuba and Philippines
The political outlook of a hypothetical confederacy would be different than the political outlook of Southern Democrats in the US.

>>Army run my communists

Yes, just like I said. No one else would help, so when the Communists, who were the only ones on the scene with any sense of discipline or military tactics offered to build an army of course the offer was gladly accepted.

>>large parts of the government run my marxists

Again, this was only the case after the republic was denied help from anyone else by the """"""non""""""-intervention committee. The point is the republic wasn't run by Communists until the war pushed them into the arms of the communists.

>>large parts of the government run my marxists

The complete breakdown in authority would not have happened if not for the uprising.

leftists fleed to France after the war and countless were put into labour camps

It wasn't just 'leftists' who fled to France, there were also a ton of people who just didn't want to be gang-raped to death by Moors for the horrible crime of carrying a trade union card or shot for having once voted for a moderate liberal reformer.

I'm not sure how getting put into a labor camp is an indictment anyway.

If the Republican side had won there would most defiantly would have been a free catalonia fun by anarchists, anarchists and marxists would have been duking it out for power in the basque and Andalusia, the only place that would have been under rule would have been aragon and the nationalist controlled territories and that might not have even happened.

Wew lad you created the wrong thread in a /lefty/ shit-tier board. Literally majority of these faggots rated Regan 0/10. their baby clits cant take your banter D:

youtube.com/watch?v=VZgXH8IJGgg

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Madame President Clinton
Vice President Al Gore

Slavery was collapsing on an institutional level as early as 1862. Almost as soon as hostilities began, slaves were streaming into the North, where they kept by the US Army as "contraband" (i.e. not turned back over to their masters). Even plantations that were not picked clean/burned by foraging armies and workforce did not pack up and leave often fell into a severe state of neglect. This combined with the blockade of the South resulted in the plummeting of cotton production and the entire of Southern dominance of the market.

If the South had managed to secure it's independence in let's say late 1863/early 1864, the damage to the institution of slavery would have already been done.

>A huge portion of the slave population would have already fled
>Huge swathes of Confederate territory are in a general state of lawlessness
>Cotton industry in ruins
>A hostile neighbor to the North that no longer imports Southern cotton and the Fugitive Slave Act is almost certainly rendered void
>Confederate Army exhausted and demanding to be demobilized
>A massive potential black market of weapons and equipment taken from the retreating Union Army (meaning that any John Brown fanboy could arm an insurrection easily and the already depleted security apparatus would have been hard-pressed to stop it)
>Possibility that the United States could covertly support a slave revolt to force the Confederacy back into the Union
>Popular Southern opinion on slavery is likely to be substantially more negative than it was before the war

Slavery was already difficult enough to maintain in the Antebellum era, it would've been impossible to sustain long-term in a post-war political vacuum.

t. Modernizing a Slave Economy by John Majewski

The only thing the Clintons deserve are two bullets to the head

If you mean the original pre-1934 National-Socialists you would be correct.

>OH I'M A GOOD OL' YANKEE

>Yankees
>Good

Northerners are literally a parasite that leeches off hard workers

> FOR FUCKING ALL MY COUSINS
I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN!

This is coming from the product of Irish ghetto scum marrying their cousins generation after generation.

>EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND REBKEKS

It was 300,000 and we killed two of you for every one of ours.

> I GUESS THAT WHOLE "SECESSION" MEME
TURNED OUT TO BE A BUST

Meanwhile, the liberals in California are demanding to leave the Union because Trump

Reminder that Wirz's only mistake was not killing all of you.

Cuba is has a stronger folk religion though. I don't see it very Evangelical.

Democracy is subhumanity.

Why does Clinton get so much hate? She's hardly the worst politician the US has.

I've been wanting California to secede from the Union since the 90s, long before Trump even ran. I'm happy the idea got a good boost after the elections though.

The Confederacy would've become Brazil-tier. The institution of slavery wouldn've further postponed industrialization, as well as strengthen the Southern Aristocratic class. It wouldn't be too wild to think that the South would've eventually devolved into an Oligarch based on Agriculture. Eventually the agricultural output of industrialization would prove superior to slavery and then slavery would be replaced.

Furthermore, your "le Golden circle" plan would've failed terrible. The entire United States barely won the Spanish-American war in Cuba. You really think the under industrialized South could've easily pursued conquest without British or French intervention. That is assuming you get past Mexico anyway.

I support it. Also gonna laugh my ass off when the US shuts off their water and power.

>Brazil tier
The south is Brazil tier TODAY.

Imagine if Byzantium never fell...

>"Turkish" massage
>Mosaics
>Christian Anatolia
>more white Greeks
>no roaches
>Rome is still literally around
>Constantinople
>No Albania
>No Bosnia
>No Kosovo

Only downside would be the loss of turkish delights and doners.

>Missouri a part of your beaner shitpile
Thanks but no thanks

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>Northerners are literally a parasite that leeches off hard workers
Said the southerner who has the highest rates of welfare addiction in the nation.

We should come back and burn Atlanta. Again.

It's more Russia tier than Brazil tier

It hurts.
>mfw the former breadbasket of Africa is now another shit hole

Someone post that Sherman meme.

>Confederacy wins
>Slaves revolt due to oppression and kill off the whites
>Union builds wall along the Mason-Dixon line and shoots any rebel scum attempting to cross it
>Fast forward 100 years later, the South is a Haiti-tier shithole while the North is god tier, no Great Migration means cities like Philidelphia and Detroit are 99% white and prosperous.

>Tfw born in the wrong timeline

No, it's Brazil tier because it's literally full of niggers, mulattoes and quadroons and octaroons who unironically think they're white.

Speaking as a right winger, if there is one thing I will never be able to grasp, it's the other right wingers' glorification of the Cuckfederate south, that place was literally a multiracial shitskin cesspit and to a significant degree still is.

The French Revolution could be blamed for 200 years of European suffering everything from Communism to the creation of Germany. Fuck them.

I'm referring more towards it's level of economic development.

The worst parts of the South are still better than 99% of Brazil, sans the ultra-wealthy parts of Brazilia. It's not even comparable.

/pol/ hates the south cuz "muh niggers"

>War of 1812

You think you do, but you don't

I have personal reasons.
And i'm not nationalistic, which is why i only hate them, and not America.

>implying the water isn't coming from northern california.

napoleon

why won't someone unite europe?

this

and charlemagne can be blamed for all of that also

your point?

No, it isn't. SoCal gets most of their water from Nevada and Arizona.

A majority of Californians don't seriously consider secession an option. Don't take your news from memes.

You are an idiot. That water comes from shared rights to the Colorado River which we border. We don't take water from other states.

Napoleon wasn't trying to "unite Europe."

>American leftists lose 55 electoral votes
>America becomes ruled by the South, West and Midwest
>New York cucked so hard they revert back to New Amsterdam

It's just God's plan really. Bye bye Califags.

>what is lake Mead

>We should come back and burn Atlanta. Again.

Most White Southerners would welcome that actually.

t. it's niggertopia

>American South is rich as fuck before Civil War
>Want to be independent
>Secede and demand yankees turn over federal property in Southern lands
>Yankees refuse, war starts
>Yankees go apeshit
>Mass conscription of undesirables, Irish Catholics, freed slaves, etc.
>Actually free fucking slaves
>Something they didn't even set out to do and didn't care much for before the war
>Sherman scorches earth across Dixie
>Ruin Southern economic framework and way of life
>Doom South to 100 plus years of poverty
>Complain when South becomes more dependent on federal aid

Make up your fucking minds Yankees. For fucks' sake Mississippi was the richest state in the union pre-Civil War. Now its the poorest. Wonder whose fault that is?

>welfare addiction in the nation.

Niggers

>We should come back and burn Atlanta. Again.

Then we'll march from Chicago to New York and exterminate you vermin to the last man, woman, and faggot pronoun. And 90% of Northern men are beta nu male faggots, so it's not like you'll be able to fight back or anything.

Also, most rural Northerners hate you as much as we do and would be happy to help.

>>what is lake Mead
>That means that the water that flows through Californian lands isn't actually Californias

What if Byzantium and WRE never fell? we would be colonising other planets probably.

When the Senate offed the Gracchian brothers and Gaius Julius Caesar.

>people will defend the late republic

Imagine all other universes that we would conquer if only old kingdom survived.

Both were destined to fall, as is our civilization, lrn2Spengler.

Autism.

>no denial of spirit cooking
>supported TPP and NAFTA until began campaign
>created the clusterfuck of ISIS via sec state policies
>was a former monsanto counsel

gee golly willickers I can't imagine why anyone would not like her

>be me
>live in charlotte NC
>NC is literally rothschild.state yet still in south
>tons of major industry, banks, factories
>NC has mountains, great beaches, great lowlands, great fishing/hunting, great ameneties
>reasonable taxes and decently planned cities

Uh yea really fuckin sucks living here....
>tfw graduated with CompSci degree making 55k a year starting with barely any debt
>already on track to owning house
>pay barely anything in taxes

> no denial of spirit cooking
Why would you deny fake news? This is like next worst thing after confirming them.

>I've never been to wikileaks and I'm proud of it!

>fake news
Good b8 m8

You are american. Not Cuban.

>Northerners are literally a parasite that leeches off hard workers
sure thing, fat ass

>Also, most rural Northerners hate you as much as we do and would be happy to help.
As a rural Northerner, I disagree, and would happily fix Sherman's mistake of not burning the rest of the south. You guys are all arrogant degenerates who get upset whenever somebody does something against your autistic values

And yes, this statement could also be used for sjws, because you're both annoying and violent.

A: because she ran an extremely incompetent and arrogant campaign which relied on computer algorithms telling her what to do and completely ignored the people on the ground and her own husband screaming at her that she had a major problem with working class whites
B: Being a Clinton, she always has a way of sliming her way out of trouble while still coated in slime. Yes, she probably didn't do anything illegal while sending emails with classified information over a private server. It still speaks to an extreme carelessness on her part
C: Thought she could beat Donald by cranking up the outrage machine and make this election a referendum on his character. Donald turned the tables by making it a referendum on HER character, and the result was that she looked like a massive hypocrite, whining about mean things Donald said about women while Bill is paying off all the women who claimed he abused them, or whining about the Trump University while drawing $100 grand out of her non-profit to pay for her daughter's lavish wedding.
D: With Americans in such an anti-establishment mood she doubled down on her position as THE establishment figure, drawing a huge number of endorsements from the media, celebrities, even large numbers of Republicans. Americans wanted change, she ran as more-of-the-same
E: major trust issues. It's not that people didn't like Hillary's platform, it's that nobody actually believed that she was serious about them and would go right back to Clintonian third way neoliberalism as soon as it became politically convenient.
E: leaked emails confirmed that the DNC actively worked to marginalize every candidate but Hillary and sabotaged the Democratic candidate who had no problems filling speaking venues, and basically took the wind out of her own sails by marginalizing Sanders and publishing fake news attacking his fans while choosing an establishment dunce like Tim Kaine as her running mate, in the process flipping the finger to her own base

>no denial of spirit cooking
What is this?
>supported TPP and NAFTA until began campaign
Many politicians supported this why is she special? And before you say Bill Clinton, he wasn't running and NAFTA was already getting started with George HW Bush, and the free trade practiced today was already happening under Reagan.
>created the clusterfuck of ISIS via sec state policies
This I will grant you. Although ISIS technically began during Bush's regime so he should also share the blame for starting the mess in Iraq in the first place which created the conditions for this and began the chaos.I would blame her more for what happened in Libya which was atrocious but supported be many other neocons and neoliberals.
>was a former monsanto counsel
fair enough

>A:
I agree though this isn't much of a reason to hate her so much. She's neglectful but many politicians ignore whole portions of the electorate.
>B:
Fair point
>C:
Tbqh both of them are pretty degenerate in character and Trump was playing the same cards of attacking character. Neither candidate talked about issues. They both have done shady things too.
>D:
Not a reason to hate her, disagree with her perhaps but hate is still strong.
>E:
Ok fair point, but the majority of politicians flip flop. Including Obama and Trump.
>E:
This is a valid reason and I can definitely see why people would hate her for this.