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farquit
farquit

I have a question!
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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Let's play Monster Hunter Online together!

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eGremlin
eGremlin

wait so how do you get the 2nd Deviljho weapon? Built the first one in the tree but the 2nd one is still grayed out and not showing the material needed.
This is for the GS.

hairygrape
hairygrape

xbox players -- heres my session ID i have t2/t3 investigations all day and willing to do arena as well
6CzrvAs6ZrHn

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

If there's one good thing I can say about Monster Hunter World is that it made me want to go back to MH4U where there's endgame content.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I've been a LS main this whole time but need to mix things up now that I've completed pretty much everything there is to do hunt-wise. Thinking of trying out either Lance or Switch Axe as my next weapon.

I figure my current build will work well enough for Switch Axe, but what do I need for Lance? Probably going to go with the Jho lance. Is Guard Up + x3 Guard enough? How much handicraft does it need?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

youtu.be/2PIdhJa-2NY
Wtf bros I thought SAED spam was dead??

Snarelure
Snarelure

So what's the verdict on Jho? Was he neutered and casualised like Diablos or is it still the same ol Jho?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Has anyone even gotten hit with deflock from jho yet

Inmate
Inmate

are loading times slower now or is it just me

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

do you have elder dragon blood yet

massdebater
massdebater

This except it made me go back to XX just for general content overall

Inmate
Inmate

Nowhere near what he is in previous games. When you're at low HR he's kinda scary but otherwise he's just farmmeat.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Deviljho more like Redditjho.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

guy still farming Jho for parts to make weapons
uses weapon he already has
does it slower than a guy with a Tobi CB
Uh...

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yes, all the time.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Room session id: 67L6xFapPeRR
Don't Ignore this please

w8t4u
w8t4u

Temper Investigations/Jho/whatever, PS4 Room ID/Session ID: 4kdRwMdK6ea3

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Ye, lots of it. Now tell me the secret of the Elder Dragon Blood.

5mileys
5mileys

but i'm playing Monster Hunter Frontier Z, user..

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Firespawn
Firespawn

It made me go to 4U for the first time.
And I kinda regret it cause it's causing my 3ds and my fingers to fall apart.

SniperWish
SniperWish

if it's not blood, then maybe you haven't gotten a gem yet? Cause it's 5 ED Blood, 2 Scalps, 5 Tallfangs, and 1 Gem for the upgraded jho weapon

DeathDog
DeathDog

removing relevant patch notes

capcom-unity.com/monster_hunter/blog/2018/03/21/

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Wow the jho armor is actually completely fucking garbage

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I have seen no noticeable difference. The first quest I took after the update let me drop in instantly but then the actual black loadscreen took about 5 times longer, haven't had a repeat of that weird shit.

Emberfire
Emberfire

He hasn't kept up with the improvements to World so he's slow and not particularly threatening, but he's a huge HP sponge compared to everything else.

TechHater
TechHater

entire team sets up bombs at the monsters head
start up my wyvern fire
LS faggot slingshots the bombs

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

12 jho gems
1 scalp

Here we fuckin go

Booteefool
Booteefool

Doesn't quite live up to the hype, but he was never going to because the expectations were set ridiculously high.

It's good content, though. I think when we get Savage Deviljho and tempered he's going to get his old challenge back.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I wish there was a way to play MH1 online again... I wish fighting Lao with people. :(

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Should I ignore the crit element set bonus if I'm doing element CB, since phial explosions don't crit?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Post you're proofs

hairygrape
hairygrape

Actually hard this time, and it demonstrates the full potential of the reworked brute wyvern skeleton to account for the slopes and ledges.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

so is jho actually BIS in ANY weapon class? or is it all just overhyped garbage?

takes2long
takes2long

Nevermind, I was in the wrong menu. I'm retarded. I have everything I need save for another scalp. Thanks for the help anyway, man.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Lobotomized like every other monster in World. He's a jhoke.

Firespawn
Firespawn

go to wildspire because it's my favorite area
no jho tracks. start fight with chicken, jho doesn't show up
go to ancient forest
no jho tracks, start fight with toby, jho doesn't show up
go to elder's, no jho tracks, hate elder's so back to wildspire
pick up quest to kill pinkian in wildspire
kill pinkian, no jho
alright, this has already taken much, much more time than i care to have used. how do i fight deviljho?
also what's the deal with 'special assignments'?

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

He did the right thing then because your WF is actually 3 separate hits (2 for HBG) and only one hit will get the wakeup bonus.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Post your Gildenkarten!

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Lance and Hunting Horn.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Wyvern fire isn't a good wakeup, only one hit will get the sleep bonus.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Na, he's neutered, except for the dragonbreath which is slower, but impossible to dodge through now.

idontknow
idontknow

I don't know anything but I'm too stupid to think for myself so I'll ask an inflammatory question on Veeky Forums to bait people into spoonfeeding me

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

The hunting horn's array of songs are pretty fantastic for tempered elders and has a ton of white at 3 handi. The GS is comparable to Laviathan's Fury, has more white, raw and dragon but has to have the negative affinity compensated for. Nothing that really breaks the mold or balance.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Yes, as opposed to slingshoting the bombs, where exactly 0 hit will get the wakeup bonus

cum2soon
cum2soon

Lance

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

After

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Emberburn
Emberburn

veekyforums.com/thread/209244525/video-games
No, they mean the ??? classification got applied to those other Elder Dragons because they didn't fully understand them yet.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Jho Beta
Good taste

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Bombs got the bonus.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

just tried SA for the first time with jho's fully upgraded one. ofc i do bad damage cuz im a noob with the weapon, but i got the feeling that SA is very low damage in general in MHW.. can a SA user chime in to confirm or deny this before i put in more time into the weapon?

TechHater
TechHater

If the slingshot only hits the bomb and not the monster then one bomb will get the bonus, which is much higher than WF damage.
Now you know how to sleepbomb, yw, worldbab.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

impossible to dodge through now
I've dodged through it with DB Demon Mode dodge and no evasion improvement skills.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm just saying, it's probably better to charged shelling for wakeup. LS was still a dick though.

Inmate
Inmate

Check the world map for expeditions with a ??? monster listed. He'll show up there.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Odo lance is better with a specialised crit damage build.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Mr. Quickdraw

Make good use of the sex change coupon?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Too bad the headband thing looks kinda silly. I was hoping for the gunner eyepatch

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

mucho apreciación

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Deviljho... the Monster Hunter: World™ eater...
Really, Capcom?

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Flameblow
Flameblow

this is what odoshitters ACTUALLY believe
lmao

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

mhw on pc limited to microsoft store
Capcom is retarded.

King_Martha
King_Martha

no World info
BING

cum2soon
cum2soon

nobody gives a fuck about the other games in the series

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Lance and HH are both top tier.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Potentially BIS HBG, I think.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Why does foresight slash go into the opposite direction of where my stick is facing?

Spamalot
Spamalot

It's not as bad as veekyforums.com/thread/209233963/video-games though

Bidwell
Bidwell

Amped state gives you some extra damage which adds up over time. For example with just my Teo Swaxe, I do about 70+20 every sword hit, which adds up quickly.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

new patch
buffs pretty much all the weapons
make Jho a bitch
makes easy game even easier
Why? They already got he casual crowd, they got the 7.5million, stop.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Switch Axe and Charge Blade are for weirdo's more concerned with being special snowflakes than dealing damage.

Everything SA and CB do is done better by GS and SnS.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Why Elders specifically? The Wind Pressure Negation on Jho's horn is not the one that affects Kushala. Only the Manasheena has that song iirc.

viagrandad
viagrandad

It's pretty fun to go ham on a monster in sword mode then do the mounted finisher.

Overall it's lower damage but I think it's one of the better weapons for breaks/tails due to reach and minds eye

Illusionz
Illusionz

Horn.
Lance.
And Gunlance if you just wanna smash shit.

Inmate
Inmate

this is it, the peak retard face

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Is it just me or does Elderseal affect Jho? I fought him with Blast, with Raw, with Thunder, and with Dragon and it seemed like he got staggered and even knocked out of rage mode with Decimation Claws.

Bidwell
Bidwell

he doesn't get the meme

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Do you think in the future:
a. G-Rank will be introduced, and it will be just as difficult as in the previous games
b. G-Rank will be introduced, but it will be just slightly above current HR in terms of difficulty
c. G-Rank will never be introduced

RavySnake
RavySnake

SnS
Bait.

Nojokur
Nojokur

tell me about this gunlance, so it's good for full burst builds?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Okay, i was beating the damage numbers alone to check the Jho weapons.
I did consider phials and ammo. I didn't test them in-game or with specific builds.
I don't play all weapons and some may be vastly wrong, so please correct it constructively if you see fit.

Objectively great/best:
HH, Lance

Best in a specific playstyle:
Gunlance, HBG, LBG

Best in the dragon element:
CB, LS, GS, SA, DB

Outclassed:
Hammer, SnS, IG

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

At what point in the game can I download the DLC quests? I just killed Kulu-Ya-Ku and I have to go kill Pukei-Pukei now.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

why does jho have such a low mount threshold

i just mounted him like twice in under a minute between mounts and a further 4/5 times in that hunt. What gives?

Skullbone
Skullbone

NOW THAT'S A MUSHROOM!

RumChicken
RumChicken

for cluster builds yeah but not for anything else

Emberburn
Emberburn

Blos Axe with NE Boost is great damage but then again all Blos weapons are. Otherwise I don't really notice any lower damage or anything.

Booteefool
Booteefool

he prefers to be on top

cum2soon
cum2soon

You can knock him out of it regardless. When he's enraged and you stagger him and he goes into his lunge animation and you slap him again before he attempts it, then he will pull an Anjanath and fall backwards and stay toppled for a bit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Anybody else just really fucking hate the handler

This jho quest was the final straw

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

totally not kosher
THAT BITCH IS JEWISH??? WTF

Evilember
Evilember

No.
It's good for a build where you forget about the gun part and just do the smashing infinite combo. I think someone said it had high damage Wyrmstake too, but I'm still making it so idk about that.

SniperWish
SniperWish

No, it's the best for slamming and sweeping. Pinkian and Zorah GLs are still best for full bursting.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

who knows but my palico paralyzed him 3x during our fight so he probably has a low paralysis threshold too. Usually don't see more than one paralysis in most of my fights.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Monster Hunter: World
[3/21] Deviljho and weapon rebalancing in update 2.00 - capcom-unity.com/monster_hunter/blog/2018/03/21/

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I think mounting is tied to stamina or rage mode in World, but I haven't seen confirmation of that.

farquit
farquit

LBG

May I have your thoughts on it? Everyone says its mediocre and I don't see what's good about it myself.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Capcom releases High Rank Deviljho (non-Tempered)
I'm in my end-game armor with over 450 defense
Jho barely does damage

WTF I DONT UNDERSTAND!?!?!?!!

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I'm not hearing anything to prove me wrong

Emberfire
Emberfire

No

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Why even bother talking about this failure of a game anymore

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

72def per piece is the highest defense I'll go in World.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Does Jho hh dethrone bone HH?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Look forward to Monster Hunter World Ultimate!

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Never saw it.
He drops dragon pods, which negates EDs abilities very consistently
Even after using all pods he never dropped from red mode

Inmate
Inmate

@209263419
failure of a game
capcom's best selling game, ever
not even worth my You

likme
likme

hold back the release of a monster until everyone is at endgame with endgame armour, weapons and decorations
don't release an endgame version of that monster.
Capcom fucked up.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

So since World is aimed more at the Western audience, we'll never get weebshit collabs will we?

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likme
likme

Same my Palico slept him 3 times, I think his stuff is 2 star for ailments which doesn't make sense.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why don't you start off by explaing how GS and SnS are even remotely similer to SA.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

In my opinion, yes, if only because Jho's horn actually has more than one useful song.

Methshot
Methshot

I personally hate LBG.
People were commenting that it and the HBG were amazing at cluster and shit. Maybe normal or other shots that raw damage counts a lot?
HBG i agree. Must be pretty cool, i'll build it in the future.
Now LBG might be an outclassed in disguise. I'm very not sure.

Did you make that LBG? I also would like to see your thoughts.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Phantom Birds are just an inside joke right? They don’t really exist to they?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

SA was fine in 3U
Ditto for CB in 4U

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

DMC
Western
Kys

5mileys
5mileys

he thinks the birds are hard to find

Just wait until you start the Great fish grind, you haven't seen shit.

likme
likme

LBG was only good when slicing spam was a thing
It's a garbage weapon now.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I'm starting to think Earplugs 5 isn't worth trying to fit into a Handicraft build.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

sales=/=good game
Why can't you retards understand this, people bought into the hype, we all fucking did.

massdebater
massdebater

Capcom should learn from jho' s release that they shouldn't bring back anymore old monsters, you faggots will never be pleased, they need to make new monsters not just catering to all you faggs who want old shit with a new paint job. But that won't happen, people will keep begging for more old shit, get it and complain. Leave the past in the past, just like Nintendo

hairygrape
hairygrape

BING

Firespawn
Firespawn

What does BIS mean?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Just gem for Tool Use Up and bring Rocksteady mantle.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Deviljho is legitimately well done, the only thing lacking is a Tempered version for people who are in endgame Augmented armor.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

DMC
weebshit
learn the difference between good Japanese content and literal garbage like fate

whereismyname
whereismyname

Balance Is Stupid

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Fuck, Jho's Armor's stats are fucking lame.

Can't get Handicraft without wearing lots of Alpha Pieces
Beta has good slots but only Latent Power and Speed Eating
No Set Bonus

Fuck this. I was excited to get into Vangis again. They couldn't even do that right.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Any mhg rooms up?

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I completely agree, but i'm very partial and hate it to bits.
In fact, not even with Slicing i liked it.
That's why i'm trying to be impartial and pretend it's as good as any other weapon.
Don't wanna be a partial rankfag and list LBG as "Kill yourself" or something.

girlDog
girlDog

How long can I make Roacksteady last?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Imagine if Capcom made Latent Power not absolute fucking dogshit.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

If there was a tempered Jho (why the fuck is there not?), would it even be as dangerous and nerve-wrecking to fight as a tempered Bazel?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Bone horn was picked because non ele boost, 3 augment slots and t+ox3 being a song

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How do u post it from ps4?

farquit
farquit

World is aimed more at the Western audience
Hardly. If it was truly "western" they wouldnt go through the trouble carrying over the impractical weaponry like SA, CB, HH and GL.
Also, Female Nerg and Jho beta exists.

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Swaxe has the best 'dps' in mhw, the moveset is simply serviceable.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Oh, I meant the Jho LBG specifically, not the class as a whole. HBG is the king of Cluster spam, while LBG is more suited to rapid-firing Normal ammo. Personally, I like both bowgun types, but they need some big overhauls. Recoil needs to be reduced across the board and ammunition, especially elemental, needs to be buffed hard.

At the very least, the armor/coil (I forget which one.) has a level 2 slot along with Handicraft on its alpha version.

I always forget about the scoutfly combo.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Didn't realise all this fun I was having, I was actually having with a bad game. Guess I have to stop having fun now.

Thanks for enlightening me user.

eGremlin
eGremlin

You can't make it last longer but you can decrease the cooldown to just a couple of minutes. After rocksteady goes away I put on the vitality mantle and just facetank. With tool use up you get rocksteady again a few seconds after vitality mantle goes away. Best underrated skill.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

If Tempered Bazel and Uragaan are things to go off of, Tempered Jho would legitimately be one of the most tense fights in the game. Especially since you can't just abuse meats anymore.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

no G rank
not just enjoying Fashion Hunter

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Illusionz
Illusionz

You're pretending to have fun user, wake up. You're 200+ hours in this trash games means nothing.

Soft_member
Soft_member

So what do you gear for Jho lance? Handicraft, protective polish, attack up, weakness exploit, I assume. Do you pump up dragon element or use element crit or do you ignore it? Do you try to gem out the crit rate down?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Shiiiiit, fake fun?

I've been deceived. I suppose I wasn't actually enjoying myself at all. Fuck Capcom, right?

massdebater
massdebater

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Emberfire
Emberfire

What are the meta IG skills? What Kinsect do I make?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

at last i truly see. the scales have fallen from my eyes.

TechHater
TechHater

crit eye after the handicraft/polish/AU4/WE3

MPmaster
MPmaster

Yes

This fucking tailspin keeps nailing me. If it was hitting for 75% of my health rather than 10% I would cart in like 20 seconds.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

has a level 2 slot along with Handicraft on its alpha version.
Yeah but that's the only piece that doesn't feel unfairly gimped. What the FUCK is Capcom thinking? Jhos shit needed to be one of the best fullsets in the game. All DLC armor needs to be high tier. I'm already done with the Jho patch because I don't want to make a Jho Wep + Jho Set combo anymore. It's not worth it. Especially since the only elusive item is the fucking scalp.

No point in wearing fashion that doesn't even have a real effect on my performance.

True Fashion is balancing both. .

Methnerd
Methnerd

unga bunga set
the white kinsect with max speed, blast.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

What bowgun mods and augs do I slap on

Nerg LBG
Nerg HBG
Jho HBG

askme
askme

After learning GS(positioning, timing) i just can't like LBG anymore.
I used to do mixed LBG in Tri, but now they just feel weaker to me.
And no amount of movement is gonna convince me otherwise, as HBG also has the option to stay still and block.

But well, it's still a bowgun. I'm guessing Jho's LBG must have SOMETHING it's at least decent at. Right?...
But welp, i'll move it to outclassed in the meantime then. Not that many would care, it's just my shitty opinion/data gathering.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Not quite sure myself. Been running with "Best in Show," and it doesn't seem to be entirely wrong when put into context, though I'd rather just now what it means.

RavySnake
RavySnake

True Fashion is balancing both.
I see you're also a gentleman of culture. 200+ hours of minmaxing armour and fashion in Dark Souls has prepared me for this.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Oh so overpowered?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Butter in Soup

viagrandad
viagrandad

I can’t get on for a few hours but I’ll hop on later if you’re still about, could do with grinding for the arena achievement but I’ll hunt some temps too.

happy_sad
happy_sad

best in slot, it's a WoW term

Inmate
Inmate

Best in slot aka the best/strongest thing you can equip to an equipment slot in any game

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

3W3MJ7c7AQfa
Putting up a room for anyone who wants to kill some T3 vaal n kush

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RumChicken
RumChicken

Here's the build I use with Affinity Booster and Dragonmantle

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StonedTime
StonedTime

How would Capcom be able to make Latent Power not terrible

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Best in Slot.

You managed to come up with a wrong answer that would still function correctly in context, which is pretty impressive.

FastChef
FastChef

Best bow.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Don't use the dragon mantle

girlDog
girlDog

lol

massdebater
massdebater

Probably more so because Jho can reasonably threaten Bow/LBG users. Bazel can't touch them whatsoever.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Lance
HH
GS
LS
HBG (spread, cluster, sticky, wyvern ammo)
CB (against dragon weakness)
GL (for limited-to-no shelling style)

TreeEater
TreeEater

Remove it

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Can also do not Wyvernshots just as well as Diablos, and has decent Spread 3, Pierce 3, and Normal 3. Also can load Slicing which Zorah and Diablos can't. Very great gun all around. The biggest draw though is being able to do Cluster AND Wyvern without having to switch armor at all, since both use the same setup

Methnerd
Methnerd

Probably not.
Bazel is dangerous because bombs are unpredictable and make him cancerous to approach as melee. Jho is a very standard kind of fight and doesn't particularly have anything that will catch you by surprise, so even if his damage is much higher he'll still be managable.

Jho is probably more dangerous to gunners, though.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Is it okay to take my precious baby to multiplayer now? I want to knock the fuck out of monsters. More than once per hunt, if possible.

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Flameblow
Flameblow

Why do people use focus on CB?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Jho GS and LS are the best
jho gs only does more damage vs things that are 2* dragon weak or more

ls is flat out worst than arena one

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

In what universe?

girlDog
girlDog

It already isn't.
triggers off 100 damage taken
has no internal cooldown
stacks duration
It's objectively good on health-augment builds because you can keep it up 24/7.

askme
askme

If the tailspin can do more then even 40% it might be one the hardest in the game

JunkTop
JunkTop

Hammerbros always welcome

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

The jho quest was fun, but jho is meant to tear people apart at the end of Low Rank like Tri did.

with max low rank armor he one-shot with the leg stomp
after getting drooled on everything was a one-shot
could aim at you in the water with a boulder and one shot you
you can try rolling through the breath but you'll probably die

idontknow
idontknow

speeds up the circle charge and also gives you more phial charge per attack

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Incorrect. The massive raw advantage combined with the now-known sharpness multiplier on charge attacks makes the Jho GS orders of magnitude better than Jag.

Illusionz
Illusionz

It causes you to get red Phials in a single charged double slash, which means you're back in charged shield/Axe mode/AED/SAED significantly faster.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Because SAED isn't the only thing that deals damage.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

It's not. If you like, you can share your math and I'll show you where you went wrong. You DID do the math, right?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Prove me wrong bucko

JunkTop
JunkTop

jho's armor has latent power
not agitator

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iluvmen
iluvmen

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Blos bow is miles better for DP spam
Tobi bow is better for general bow play

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

want to know more about Jho's armor and weapons but can't access my PS4 currently
decided to watch gaijinhunter's video
halfway in and it's already bothering me with all his stupid quips and that forced laughter
it's like this for every video that he released
God no wonder people around here hate this dude.

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Lacking brain cells.

CB is blos with elementless, affinity Aug.

Then wear dober chest, nerg belt, Skelton spooky leggings, xeno hands, Dragonmonocle.

handicraft charm.

Then put in protective polish, tenderiser, expert gems, attack.

This is sadly the best build in the game.

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

blos pants
Rng fucking you over with the normal shot jewel?

5mileys
5mileys

I want to FUCK the Field Team Leader.

cum2soon
cum2soon

This is really the inherent problem with Deviljho's release. He's meant to terrorize end LR/early HR players when they have shit equipment. His status as a threat drops off once you get better gear. And unfortunately everyone is rolling around in endgame sets with Augment armor.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Wrong

Snarelure
Snarelure

Who, the Matt Mercer guy? Why?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Element weapon with high element and low raw
good for general purpose
Go back to the subreddit.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Come play MHO with us!

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Don't forget to walk your Dodos.

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SniperGod
SniperGod

Prove it, with the math to back it up.
Not the dated Reddit math that doesn't account for the sharpness mult either. Correct math.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Someone make a fucking room with Tempered Elder Dragon investigations because the SOS ain't finding me jack shit. I'm HR 61 and I've yet to get a single fucking tempered dragon because investigations are the most horribly designed trash system ever made. Fucking christ I hate this garbage so much.

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Protective polish
No agitator
No artillery
CB
Stop posting anytime

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

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Firespawn
Firespawn

How do people become this retarded? How long did it take these people to learn how to post here?

SniperWish
SniperWish

explain yourself. It looks neat for sure but in terms of raw it's outclassed by cera and in terms of dragon element it's outclassed by hazak

idontknow
idontknow

youtu.be/cvVtwAWEKI4

Snarelure
Snarelure

How hard they will neuter the blazing black dragon?

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Emberfire
Emberfire

hunk
shows off a bit his chest
sexy haircut

Didn't know Matt voiced him since I play with the MH language, but his Japanese VA sounds cool too.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

agitator
artillery (even if the decoration drops)
I spit on you, pleb.

At least we all agree on the set, unless you supplement to get the artillery.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Well it already got massively cheapened in XX

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Does anyone have the leakfag copypasta please

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

forced laughter
I see he's still doing that shit.
He didn't do it in his early 4U vids, even ones where he would say something ridiculous like Baibai Kaiser or Ukaukau with a straight face.
But at some point he started to add the cringy as fuck fake laughs in and I couldn't stand to watch his videos anymore.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

My jagras hits for 1070 TSC. Show me your Jho gs

whereismyname
whereismyname

This game is just too damn boring.
Want to fight Deviljho
Have to eat
Have to go to the item box and change my equipment
Have to change my item loadout
Oop, Devil's not on the map, guess you need to do an Investigation real quick to reroll those monster distributions!
No thanks, MonHun. I'm going to go play something else.

I'd steal this if I didn't just come here to wish this game good-bye.

hairygrape
hairygrape

1228

Emberfire
Emberfire

Not even that guy but
Gets inquire for the math
Posts one number
user

WebTool
WebTool

I bet if he got a number response he'd demand a screenshot even though he didn't post one himself.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Fucking this. If you want old monsters in HD, Tencent has that covered.

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Nice blog

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Is there actual PROOFS that Tempered Jho doesn't exist, or is it just that nobody wants to farm tracks for hours to find out if he does?
I can't imagine why capcom wouldn't add him to the tempered rotation considering how halfassed tempered monsters really are.

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Methshot
Methshot

Possibly. I'm just baffled, really.
Even if it was simplistic, wrong or a shitton of math i wouldn't have posted.
Guess i got baited.

TreeEater
TreeEater

its literally not. ive tried it.

eGremlin
eGremlin

yeah, all i want is HiDef huntress thighs and dakka

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FastChef
FastChef

Someone fucking answer me you niggers. How the fuck do I find tempered dragons without SOS because this game is trash.

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Techpill
Techpill

But is MHO actually good at all?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Sniff their shit stains.

Lunatick
Lunatick

git gud

takes2long
takes2long

strawpoll.me/15339709

Very important poll

strawpoll.me/15339709

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

lacking braincells
putting Affinity Augments are Charge Blade

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

my weapons are the only ones Jho is good for
I'm not sure how to feel.

whereismyname
whereismyname

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Inmate
Inmate

Play with /mhg/.

likme
likme

what should i augment on a hbg? specifically nerg or lagia hbg.

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TechHater
TechHater

many prominent figures in the mh community constantly preaching about tobi bow being so good
but user from Veeky Forums thinks otherwise
fuck my bad

eGremlin
eGremlin

I mean, he's good for other weapons, those are just the only two that are BIS.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It's shit because you need to get hit to activate it and getting hit means you're not attacking and that's lost dps which latent won't make up for. If you're getting chip damage but not getting knocked down then it's okay but then you'll have to waste slots to build for it or abuse memesteady.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

For those ones? Defense.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

dumb ebinposter

Skullbone
Skullbone

Just finished fighting Jho for the first time.

Is it just me or is he actually kind of spongey?

Like, it took me forever to just get one break of his mouth (I'm sure there's another mouth break that I missed). I also wasn't able to cut his tail, even though the number of cuts I gave it would have long severed all other Elder Dragon tails.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Flinch Free + Health Augment.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

To be fair we have one math post showing jagras ahead. But no math posts for jho GS, especially not any fair ones ( seriously I've seen you guys compare Jho gs with optional augments but then slap on healing on jagras, like wtf) Just some anons talking about muh secret hidden modifiers

cum2soon
cum2soon

youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Um41WIi2A
Decide it yourself

Methshot
Methshot

agitator or peak performance?

Methnerd
Methnerd

seems like jho's LS does a sliver more damage than divine slasher against 2* targets but has 20 affinity less if you augment for affinity twice
doesn't seem worth it. the damage is probably roughly equal against 3* targets (accounting for affinity) with jho's having a tiny edge and dragonseal

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

be autistic shit baby
have to load game
turn off console
shit up a thread on Veeky Forums
piss myself

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Make it proc based on damage dealt instead of damage taken.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

prominent figures in the mh community
Not even him, but shut up. Nobody cares about them whoever they are.

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5mileys
5mileys

secret hidden
They're in the goddamn official companion guides and also Kiranico.
Do
Your
Fucking
Research

Techpill
Techpill

tfw MH has been dead since 2015
4U was the last good game desu

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Exactly, you have to build for flinch free wasting skill slots that you could use for damage skills.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

ian full burst or jho slam spam? did anyone compare the damage yet?

hairygrape
hairygrape

50% universal affinity
not damage
Okay.

DeathDog
DeathDog

what site is this?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Its terrible. So bad even Frontier players won't touch it.

Soft_member
Soft_member

those damage numbers
Is this Monster Hunter Explore?

TreeEater
TreeEater

that player running animation

Every fucking time. It still looks as retarded today as when I first saw MHO videos years ago.

It's been years yet the run still looks so stiff and retarded. Can't they even copy animations right?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Post evidence of your math.
What sets are you comparing them with.

You're like those autistic Vaal GS fags

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

OR, check this out this is good, they could not completely fucking butcher old monsters by making them braindead easy and fucking with their themes.

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

do temp investigate
ear plug jewel
repeat

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Well, shit.

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Frontier at least looks like it has its own merits even if it strays from MH. MHO just looks like... well, like a chink MMO knockoff of MH.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Still a more compelling HD experience than fucking World.

MPmaster
MPmaster

You'll get it one day user. It took me three weeks to finally get it. In fact I got 3 attack decos before it.
Affinity.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Do i need to hug teo to avoid getting tossed around by explosions?
Uragaan and bazelgeuse are a joke compared to teo.
The first time i beat him with a close range weapon and had no troubles but now I'm using gs and I've failed twice already.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Have you seen a single one? Posted by anyone? Or a screenshot? Anywhere?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

7.5 million isn't dead.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Frontier and MHO are both equally shit for different reasons.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I don't really care about shitposting, really.
What i meant is that i wouldn't bother replying to their discussion if it wasn't for that.
Only thing i would really, REALLY like to see is actual in-game numbers. Like training room testing.
But that takes time. I myself just crunch some numbers and end up going with whatever is prettier and decent enough.

cum2soon
cum2soon

can't tell if you're just ironically baiting at this point but if you really think the Tobi bow isn't all that please explain why. i am open to having my mind changed if you can provide some reasonable argument instead of g-go back to the subreddit.

massdebater
massdebater

lol kys. the only good thing to ever come out of MHO is this single theme
youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMl2tvuOLU

Flameblow
Flameblow

caring about the D

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It's not because it's a high element weapon with low raw. You'd have to be significantly retarded to use a weapon like that as general purpose.

5mileys
5mileys

Baibai Kaiser or Ukaukau
Thanks for reminding of that shit. But yeah I liked it better when it was just text only since it made it so much easier to skip to the part that you need to see. Even disregarding his forced laughter I think the worst aspect about his videos now is how he always feels the need to sneak in a comment that implies how NIPPONESE he is. Just take that Jho one for an example:
and next up its the sla- I keep coming to call it slashaxe because that's the japanese name, the switchaxe terror tyrannos ehuhuhuhu I hope I'm saying that right

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

wooow jho's so EZ
has end-game builds that can kill elders in minutes
Well what the fuck did you expect? also, jho was never hard besides savage jho, fuck off pretending to be old MH fans

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

not even close, MHO is way worse.
frontier has tight controls and is fun to play, MHO cant say the same. it also has like 10% of the content frontier has.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

7.5 million SHIPPED, not players

world probably has closer to 2 million active players, I've noticed a big decline since launch. guess the lack of content is a big problem after all.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I don't benefit from sales in the slightest, and neither do you, stupid consumerdrone brainlet. If you want to play this dumbed down, casualized trash MH or the equally garbage animu trash casualized XX, be my guest. I, however, fear for the future of this franchise.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

turning normie is a fate worse than death

Techpill
Techpill

I finished the game forever ago. Where are the tempered quests? I swear I got one Nerg investigation and have found some blue tracks here and there but nothing else.
Am I just supposed to go out on random expeditions hoping some tempered monster is there?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

reading comprehension
You have to build extra skills just to get latent to trigger consistently or you can just dodge shit and build normal damage skills.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

This is fucking Capcom we're talking about.

Hell, they didn't even bother to add FUCKING SCREEN DISTORTION to Jho's "Fuck you, I'm leaving to another area" roar.

Playboyize
Playboyize

How do I stop being a scrub and dropping every MH game when shit like Tigrex and Kushala show up?

Skullbone
Skullbone

The Anguish's maximum damage output falls just slightly under Jagras Hacker III's, only pushing past the Hacker due to its 240 Dragon Element and only if the target Monster Hitzone has even a slight weakness to said element.

Math: reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/865q3x/great_sword_minmaxing_ft_anguish_deviljho_gs/

Emberburn
Emberburn

MHO is trash chinese mmo shit. Frontier starts off ok then takes a turn into deviant art AoE "This is my Rathian OC!" territory.

Evilember
Evilember

Vanilla Tri's low rank gives it the edge. Your hunter had no natural defense so everything hit like a truck, including a barroth that only did charges and never went out of rage mode. Monsters were easier to bounce off of too, like uragaan's chin and qurupeco's wings.

You also had to fight monsters in a dark cave while scrambling to light sconces, shit was terrifying.

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Sales/shipped copies =/= Quality

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

But none of the weak roars have it. Odo's parting screech doesn't.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Patience. Blocking. Dodging. Learning their move set.

Shit get so predictable. It becomes muscles reaction after awhile. Stop being stupid.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

His tail isn't a weak point so he takes less damage from it compared to other monsters.

Methnerd
Methnerd

what do you get out of being salty, /mhg/?

legit question, what's the purpose of all this shitposts on MHW? why do you hate having fun?

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TreeEater
TreeEater

world probably has closer to 2 million active players
Gonna need YOUR PROOVS on that one.

Firespawn
Firespawn

haven't seen a single Bing Bing Wahoo yet in this thread

did v finally leave?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I've noticed a big decline since launch
Please user, share your sourced data about console players affirming this, and not an anecdote about your friends.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

MHW is popular now, but was it worth it to Capcom to turn their back on loyal fans? Only time will tell

hairygrape
hairygrape

i want to experience all the old MH content
is XX the best game for that? or MH4U?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Which is worse?

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MPmaster
MPmaster

It's not easy. He's got a lot of HP, his head is small and flails a lot and it doesn't have a big weakness modifier.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Freedom Unite

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

XX has the most content out of all monhun games so go figure
it however lacks a proper story mode unlike 4u

Evilember
Evilember

The one that has more spikes in it's fucking logo.

TechHater
TechHater

delete this and don't provoke them

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I'm having fun by shitposting. This is why I play MP with strangers.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

you tell me. i've been playing MH since FU and im still having a blast

You guys really need to drop the elitism hivemind

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

This happens EVERY GAME, newfag.
4u release
woah this game is shit wtf capcom i miss 3u
mhgen release
woah this game is shit wtf capcom i miss 4u
MHXX release
whoa this game is shit, i miss 4u
MHW release
whoa this game is shit i miss 4u

Get with the program

mods cracked down on that shit and were banning people for it

Evilember
Evilember

from reddit

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SniperWish
SniperWish

the absolute state of this post
Isn't it still topping charts on both ps4 and xbone? Lol keep crying bitch nigga
I feaaaar for my franchiiise

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I will fucking corpse rape your families. I am so fucking sick of this retarded system. Is there really no other way to do the end game I fucking worked for other than to sniff RNG placed tracks hoping to get RNG based quests?

Fuck this stupid piece of shit chink faggot game. I'd rather play gen 1 than this trash.

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

It was literally explained to you in the post that told you to go back that you're complaining about. How mentally defunct are you? How does anyone change your mind when you can't read?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Well yes, it was
They literally made all the money they need without your approval

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

lacks a proper story mode
This is MonHan we're talking about here. That's a GOOD thing.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Went for a TA setting. Using the affinity booster for both:

Jagras Hacker III
Health x1 Attack x2
Attack boost 6
Agitator 5
Crit boost 3
Weakness exploit 3
Non-elemental boost

Effective attack = 526

Anguish
Health x1 Affinity x1
Attack boost 4
Agitator 2
Crit boost 3
Weakness exploit 3
Handicraft 2
Protective polish

Effective attack = 558

That's not counting sharpness modifiers which may or may not exist, I'm gonna dig around in the training room later to find out the actual damage math.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

XX is basically like the remastered version of FU so play that

iluvmen
iluvmen

how do i nerg tail

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

MHW is like Resident Evil 4, it's a great game but I'm not looking forward for the future of this series.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

You literally take the same equation and add a 1.5 multiplier to the final sharpness mult. Can you not figure this out yourself?
Jho TTC final hit:
attack 7
peak performance 3
handicraft 1
weakness exploit 3
(230+20+21)*2.21*(1.32*1.5)*(1.25)=1778.7627
Jag TTC final hit:
same skills
(190+20+21)*2.21*(1.20*1.5)*(1.25)=

This is with no augments and no weakpoint multiplier

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I've been doing some testing with both fully augmented and I think as far as straight-up clear times goes Jho is a little faster against anything that doesn't straight up nullify dragon.

It has 2 aug slots in addition to the higher damage and given that the cookie-cutter WE + MM build for LS actually over-caps affinity when Affinity Booster is active Jho's deficit really doesn't matter.

Jho gets to augment twice but the real kicker here is that Jho only takes 1 point in Handicraft to hit white sharpness - making either Handicraft investment more efficient or possibly removing the need to waste a slot on polish gem depending on your preferences. The fact that NEB can't be used seems like a down-side but given that that's another slot to do things like take that 3rd point in Critical Boost I'm not sure it's much of a downside at all really.

Not having to use Handicraft Charm has allowed my old build to hit Attack Up 7 without sacrificing anything and with it Jho's been hitting harder than my DS build against everything I've tested on.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Frontier starts off ok then takes a turn into deviant art AoE "This is my Rathian OC!" territory.
stop using cherrypicked shit to judge the game, what you describe is an incredibly small portion of the roster that is optional and not even able to be defeated by most of the playerbase

SniperWish
SniperWish

But why? Also guard and ice attack with water insect glaive

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Whoops: pressed enter early: 1263.5122 for Jag.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Mate, it's just a handful of sour grape bings trying to create the impression that the game is universally hated.

Just ignore them. Or if you feel the urge to respond to their posts, just type in "BING" as a response and move on.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Ctrl+F BING
4 Results

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

mods cracked down on that shit and were banning people for it
About fucking time. Thanks mods.

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

You do quests that have tempered monsters in them to get tempered tracks and you have a chance of getting a tempered monster investigation from each track. If you don't have any you either have to play multiplayer or spend an hour in expeditions hoping to get one quest. This system is actually fucked up.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Hey guys I'm such a huge monster hunter fan that I don't like the newest one.
Have I mentioned how many hours I've spent on the series yet? I need to do it so you know my opinion matters.
It actually makes you guys seem like complete autists to me to be honest. I mean how can you spend so much time playing something so uncomfortable? Holy shit.

Illusionz
Illusionz

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Lunatick
Lunatick

heatlh augments
no focus
agitator 5
Cringe

farquit
farquit

Cherry picking

No, a lot of late game Frontier is plagued with: "lol i stomp the ground and cause an earthquake which shootes out crystal spikes that explodes and one shots you"

Bidwell
Bidwell

it's the end of monster hunter!
tops your sales shipped
it's just casual trash!
is extremely well recieved and continues to pump out shipments
all is lost, dead game!
The world belongs to worldsperm while you cry into your 1upbox

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

use my last lucky voucher for Jho
lose power mid hunt

JUST

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

How can I go back and play 4U without the QoL changes and improved controls?

w8t4u
w8t4u

a series of games that encourages you to grind the same monsters for hundreds or thousands of hours attracts many autists
gee go fucking figure

Skullbone
Skullbone

stop falseflagging and play video games

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DeathDog
DeathDog

deviant art AoE "This is my Rathian OC!"
Meanwhile in World...

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Can you?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It exists:
mhworld.kiranico.com/guide/damage
Scroll down a bit until you hit sharpness modifiers.
That's taken directly from the official companion guides.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

The point here is that in a fair comparison Anguish will do more damage.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Nope.

Techpill
Techpill

Health augment in TA
Health augment ever

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Methshot
Methshot

If you calm down and stop raging you might notice there are some fixed tracks.
Just go into expeditions, sniff them and move to another expedition.
Yeah, it's rng to get them but do that until you get temp nerg invetigations.
Once you get temp nerg, enter solo/with friends and wait around. Really.
After 15-40min there will be TONS of tempered tracks, as he only wanders through one area until bothered.

Otherwise, good luck sniping japs for tempered elders.
It's doable, but you gotta be very quick.
Now let's stop raging shall we? No point in that.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Frontier starts off ok then takes a turn into deviant art AoE "This is my Rathian OC!" territory.
you sound like you haven't played it and are simply passing judgement based on some webms you saw somewhere
there's only a few monsters that would fit this description and despite that they're fun to fight due to unique and new movesets unlike generic rath recolors

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

So tempered Nerg?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Well 4U is a way better game so it should be ea-
BING BING BING WAHOOOOOOOOO

w8t4u
w8t4u

is a unique monster that isn't a fucking recolor

askme
askme

I like how not really digging the game must make you a nintendo child according to this general.
I go wherever this series goes, I have no console loyalty. But I will say the last three games (XX/X/World) have all been lackluster to me. I'm okay that people enjoy it, but it's not giving me the same fun that the past games have. And I'm okay with that. Games change to mold for newer audiences and I've accepted that. I've seen many games get molded and changed in my years, it's like this is any different.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Are you trying to prove something? If you wanted to pick fights you should've went to Altreon's first game. You know, the original DA monster before shedding Magala appeared in 4u

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

WAHOO

Emberfire
Emberfire

I sure couldn't

Booteefool
Booteefool

Yes I've seen it, it's pretty much useless information in that format.

5mileys
5mileys

Yes, it was obvious you don't give a fuck about MH, seeing as you didn't play it before they dumbed it down enough for your casual low iq ass to grasp.

idontknow
idontknow

You did back up your savegame data to a USB and/or PS+ online, right?

If so, just restore the data. If not, you're a retard

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I can understand endless even aimless grinding if it's done in a way that doesn't cause physical discomfort.
The only pro of the portable games is that you can just drop them instantly the moment you get tired of the shitty controls/camera.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

musou variants and zeniths are "a lot of lategame"
so you haven't played the game. got it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

youtube.com/watch?v=wO3ZveTHlWQ
Compare Vaal to this piece of shit and tell me they're on the same level as one another

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It's a L is a 1.5 multiplier according to the legend in the guide (not sure why Kiranico didn't include it).

likme
likme

You can't have a "fair" comparison when Jagras offers a Lv3 and a Lv2 socket. You need to make BiS builds for both weapons and compare them, comparing them at face value for "fair comparison" is silly, and what Vaal GS fags did so they can shitpost over and over about how Vaal is the best.

takes2long
takes2long

Do not touch XX with a 10 feet pole. Play FU or 4U.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Got any source for this lack of activity?

w8t4u
w8t4u

The fact that you have to do this shit in the first place is inconceivable though. What the literal fuck were they thinking.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Ignore bingposters

Do not acknowledge bingposters

If you are enjoying the game then keep on enjoying the game

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

That's very interesting. No joke.
How would Vaal and the new event GS compare?
Also, thanks for taking the time to explain your point.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Whelp, I finally moved back home guys.
I lost my job recently due to getting incredibly ill after getting motion sick from trying SnS for the first time. My dad is a little sour with me, but now I'm a neet and ready to hunt some Jho. Any rooms?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Why does MHF have to be so...extra?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

unironic kush reskin
unique

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cum2soon
cum2soon

Retard can't even calculate
Same armor, same attack jewels, but the Jho GS has 1 less Attack Boost?

w8t4u
w8t4u

it doesn't count because it's not average
Man Jagras fags don't know when to quit

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Your tears sustain me, tell me about how much more you hate world

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

You don't. You suffer and don't bother until World 2/G comes out.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

There's faggots that BING then there's some who use it correctly like

Illusionz
Illusionz

I'm not saying the grind is bad, I love MH too. It just shouldn't come as a surprise that a lot of bona fide autists are attracted to the games that reward autistic playstyles.
Also if you have a CPP the 3ds controls and camera aren't even that bad (and definitely a massive step up from PSP controls). Playing with just a 3ds is RSI: the Game though, and I hear the New 3ds isn't much better in that regard.

happy_sad
happy_sad

For GS I'd take it over 5 raw every time. GS is the only weapon where you're supposed to be taking damage (tackle), this mitigates the need to heal completely. Go ahead and swap it though, my point still stands.

It's actually two level 3 slots, and yes I took that into account.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Has anyone tested if the Dragonblight Mantle's dragon attack boost ignores the element cap?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Why would you take a weapon at face value when you forget that people hunt using sets that best suit that weapon? Are you dense?

Firespawn
Firespawn

XX if you want to see all the old MH content, but if you really want to "experience" it then FU.
Honestly just play all the old MH games (at least the Grank ones).

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Unironically this.
People coming in here with this high end gear talking about how unchallenging he is are fucked in the head.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It's fun.

girlDog
girlDog

it literally wasn't

Evilember
Evilember

Yes. It's a universal 10% mult.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Make a Jho set that is better than my Jagras set
Jagras Hacker III
Affinity, Attack Attack
Skills
Attack 7
Weakness Exploit 3
Crit Boost 3
Max Might 3
Focus 3
Non Elemental Boost 1
Quick Sheathe 1

If you add Peak Performance, I'm just going to ignore you.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Oh, you're baiting. Got it.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

some of the best monsters in the series are kush reskins.

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

It's not unreasonable for people to have expected him to be balanced based off the fact the game has been out for months already

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why?
Peak Performance is objectively great.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

not an argument

idontknow
idontknow

Absolutely must forge:
Jho HH
Jho Gunlance (Sweep and Smack Stick)
Jho Lance
Jho HBG (Cluster)
Jho LBG (Spread 3 with slow reload, hard to use)

Then there is also the Jho GS, which is only slightly weaker than Great Jagras in an optimized build. Both of them will be outclassed by the Boost GS though.

Jho weapons that aren't worth forging:
Jho Switch Axe
Jho Hammer
Jho Insect Glaive
Jho CB (Still worth crafting because it looks so fantastic)
Jho LS (Only slightly below Divine Slasher though)
Jho Bow (Outclassed by Dragonbone)

Not sure about these
Jho Sword & Shield
Jho Dual Blades

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

according to this general.
It's not. That's just a few dumbass shitposters who probably didn't even know the series existed before World came out.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Can you get Jho gem as a reward? Or is it carve-only?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Care to post some?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Because at that point let's just use heroics then.

RumChicken
RumChicken

as long as they shit on MHW, logic never matters

there was even a time when 90% of this general said that MHW is shit because it didn't have G-rank, while actual MH fans are going apeshit over how retarded this general got

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Did that drawfag ever deliver that Tzi-Tzi?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

So the Jho Gunlance is the best one now, right?

Skullbone
Skullbone

youtube.com/watch?v=mXET_MFRp6I

When you fight deviljho that does aoe earth shattering stomps and slams with rocks with your dmc tier weapon
"F-frontier isn't that bad!"

Literally any monster ported over to that trainwreck gets turned into this. The OC donut steels they have exclusively are even worse.

Emberburn
Emberburn

it's strong so don't use it
Are you broken?

Flameblow
Flameblow

a CPP
Yeah If I could get one without importing I'd buy one in a heartbeat but these things are kinda rare where I'm from apparently.

JunkTop
JunkTop

We're not having one. But while we're having fun why don't you link me to the videos where your superiors are touting a low raw weapon as the best general purpose bow in the game.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

no

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Both of them will be outclassed by the Boost GS though.
outclassed
no weapons slots
need handicraft lv2
will have to sacrifice Crit boost

It will be a sidegrade at best

Methshot
Methshot

You can. Got one as a reward yesterday

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Jho weapons that aren't worth forging:
Jho Hammer
Jho CB

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Evilember
Evilember

duremudira (best on the skeleton)
alatreon
guanzorumu
rukodiora
rebidiora
harudomerugu (direct upgrade to kush, also its closest relative)
lunastra
vaal

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Jho LBG (Spread 3 with slow reload, hard to use)
No. Not worth shit. Vaal and Jyura are better.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

playing bow
save a rando from carting by switching to paralysis shot and stunning jho

Is there anything more satisfying?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

implying the others don't need handicraft

And why wold you have to sacrifice crit boost

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

It's bad for GS, you'll take damage from tackles and the heal you get from TSC is applied after the TSC so you won't be getting PP on the TSC hit.
If you want damage, go Heroics.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

all these lancefags using horse cocks

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Same as every other gem. Saliva is the only non-carve item he has. You get those from shinies or rewards. Not sure if capping gives a chance as well.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Why aren't you using Heroics though?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

What they should've done was give us G-rank Jho to really fuck us up until G-rank comes out and we can get gear to keep up with him.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Okay so insect glaive, is it still shit?
What about the bug? I know pseudocath is meta but what do people think about whispervesp's faster stamina regen so you can have the bug auto more often?
I know you can just spam send and recall to refill the bug's stamina but then you have to stop attacking for that, so maybe it might be better to run whispervesp and let it regen stamina on it's own?

Spamalot
Spamalot

if you don't think it is, then what is?

w8t4u
w8t4u

so all of what you're arguing comes down to "i don't like the art design sometimes"?
because people don't play frontier for the art design, they play it for the fun and challenging gameplay
i'm sure there's a game for people who like very safe and simple weapon and monster designs, it just came out on ps4/xbone too

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I like the horsecock though.

5mileys
5mileys

Jho LBG does better DPS with optimized set than Vaal. Jyura is more consistent than both

The Jho hammer is completely outclassed by Diablos and the Jho CB is just shit because of elemental phial, no elementless boost and worse raw. Doesn't matter what you "think"

takes2long
takes2long

whats it like to get anything other than two box vaal and kushala investigations

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Snarelure
Snarelure

You just KNOW.

Nojokur
Nojokur

augment Jho lance with affinity and attack
those fucking numbers
It's almost on par with CB jesus christ

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Booteefool
Booteefool

Because heroics puts you in oneshot territory while peak performance doesn't. What a ridiculous point.

girlDog
girlDog

Meanwhile in Frontier

This is Disufiroa. He has his own arena, called World's End. He also has his own special snowflake element, called 'Frozen Seraphim', which is fire, ice and dragon elements all in one, an element only he can use.

This is the OC Donut Steel Monster to end all OC Donut Steel Monsters.

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5mileys
5mileys

don't bash on my erp character

massdebater
massdebater

Reddit know more about world than /mhg/

HOW CAN THIS BE BROS???

I THOUGHT REDDIT WAS BAD??? WTF

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iluvmen
iluvmen

jho but actually threatening
looks great to me, casual.
also this gameplay doesn't exist anymore, aerial tonfa got nerfed into the ground.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Link me your sources to these high and mighty people.

Evilember
Evilember

Optimal Jagras build doesn't use Handicraft.
This build has the edge over Jho, Boost, and Vaal because it can grab other skills on top of having two additional Level 3 slots.

Your average Jagras Build will look like: this guy's

Jho and Boost need Handicraft. Boost can get away with 2 levels since it already has decent sharpness. Jho can get away with 4 levels. To get crit boost you'd have to sacrifice other skills like attack or focus. I know Vaal builds just got rid of Focus all together; however with the new changes to CS and SCS you really don't want to just skip them anymore if you can help it.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Jho does better DPS than Vaal and has the same clip size and recoil
Not worth shit

???

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Some of those "that aren't worth forging" are actually decent as elemental focused weapons.

Also, LBG is questionable. Might i bother you for a better explanation?

SnS seemed like a worse option to Xeno's in a crit element build. I might be wrong though.

Supergrass
Supergrass

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

BIOENERGY
that actually sounds stupid but hey people want weird things to hunt in their sub mmo

Lunatick
Lunatick

no specific source really, just what people seem to have said.

which bow do you think is better? i am open to discussion on this.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

aerial tonfa got nerfed into the ground.
I get it

askme
askme

Don't have the decos.
Can't reliably activate heroics for TAs

PP is a meme that doesn't work well with GS given the nature of the play style.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

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JunkTop
JunkTop

You were tragically misinformed.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Did anyone notice an increase in difficulty from tempered monsters? Some people are reporting that they're much harder now.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

But none of the ones that aren't worth forging other than Dragonbone even favor elemental damage, except maybe IG but the Health Boost ruins it.

Firespawn
Firespawn

crossover when

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

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w8t4u
w8t4u

Jho has stock lion roar instead of default roar
They literally could have just put a 3ds speaker to a microphone and recorded his old roar. Why did they do this?

askme
askme

As it turns out, the fag is simply wrong
Sasuga reddit

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Does any kind of shorthand exist for figuring out the actual attack of elemental weapons?

Say something has 600 raw and 300 fire. How do I ROUGHLY work out how much that translates to in actual damage to the average monster?

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Lunatick
Lunatick

not The Elder Chad
So close

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Just slept through the 9* Rocksteady mantle quest in just under 9 minutes and it was a breeze so i don't think so m8

Spamalot
Spamalot

Jho IG is absolutely worth crafting

farquit
farquit

Is it me or does he shit WAY more than other monsters? did Brapcom buff his shitting so there's a reliable source of dung to make him go away?

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

western audience meme

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

there's only a few monsters that would fit this description
I went ahead and counted the deviantart tier idiotic designs. I'm not including mainline monsters that got their design fucked with for no reason and have gotten glowing spikes added everywhere:

Diorekkusu
Dyuragaua
Gasurabazura
2 Gougarf
Gureadomosu
Gurenzeburu
Hyujikiki + zenith
Kuarusepusu
Meraginasu
Mi Ru
Midogaron + zenith
Poborubarumu
Zenith Rathalos
Zenith Tigrex
Toridokuresu
Unknown
Varusaburosu
Voljang
Zenaserisu
Zerureusu
Howling Zinogre
Disufiroa
Duremudira
Eruzerion
Garuba Daora
Guanzorumu
Harudomerugu
Keoaruboru
Rukodiora + zenith
Rebidiora
Shantien
Toa Tesukatora

That's 36 monsters. Again, I've been lenient in general with shit design and didn't even include the mainline monsters that got disfigured with glowing spikes up the ass.

farquit
farquit

7 attack jewels
lmao, guess Jho is better if you have PS4 Save Wizard

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I kek'd

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This is Vaal Hazak. He has his own arena, called Rotten Vale and it's made of dead elder dragons. He also has his own special snowflake status, called 'Effluvial Miasma', which is poison, max hp reduction and vampiric aoe lifesteal all in one, a status only he can use.

This is the OC Donut Steel Monster to end all OC Donut Steel Monsters.

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Health Boost
It really isn't, my dude

takes2long
takes2long

Are gems rare? I got a few but they are mostly shit.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Too bad that story mission is the only time I ever fought him on that pile of bones.

RumChicken
RumChicken

how does jho sns compare to master bang?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

BUT DUDE
that totally terrible monster that completely fits your criteria is okay because - I - like it!
- Him

iluvmen
iluvmen

Diorekkusu
Diorekksu is a unique monster and not just tigrex recolored. Try again

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

It's not a Kirin of elementals, but it's decent and has elderseal high.
SA for example, might be decent.

IG i completely agree. That Health Boost hurts.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

its deviantart because i say it is
includes shit like pobo
fuck off retard

JunkTop
JunkTop

What is the Longsword-Divine Slasher meta set?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Why of all things would you compare the Jho SnS to Master Bang, a weapon only used for Free Element Thunder?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Wait, does he actually regen health using effluvium?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

This is Vaal Hazak, a nice Elder that could have been infinitely better if it inflicted Stench instead of that garbage magic life drain that doesn't even pose a threat
Thanks neo MH

Bidwell
Bidwell

XX is the better game.

eGremlin
eGremlin

You don't use a general purpose bow. It's a weapon you match elements with. If you needed to use a general weapon you go for the highest raw possible. Bow is not good with this. Some are better than others between elements and your set up, and some elements are better than others because of how much you'll be fighting them. Late game Tobi is so great because the most common weakness for endgame monsters is thunder. You will need the other elements, though.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

regular hyujikiki
deviantart

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Ive been using master bang with NEB because barroth ones are ugly

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

But it has no Story!

5mileys
5mileys

literally almost all the ones you listed do not fit at all what you said earlier
stop moving goalposts this hard

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

tigrex
Tigrex is not in MH3U, only Nargacuga. Try again

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

anyone else have more fun with silly qol skills than fully optimal sets?

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

A Astera Motion Picture

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farquit
farquit

Good.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Does artillary still affect elemental phials?

massdebater
massdebater

Tempered Elders are dying faster than ever. I assume it's all the weapon buffs.

iluvmen
iluvmen

The only reason people are more forgiving toward Vaal is because she cannot fight back ever.

Likewise, Alatreon is forgiven despite also being an unironic kush reskin is because it was hard but fair back before 3U inflicted the DaS2 effect on its gameplay design

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

this is a good argument, thank you for taking the time to write it out. i just use tobi for everything because I'm lazy but I can see why other ones would be useful.

how does jho bow compare to Vaal bow?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

No, it's always better, even when Jagras fags try to cheat.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Called it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Jho is better than it, but only against things weak to dragon. I don't know how the Jho SnS compares to the Xeno SnS though but i'm assuming it's worse since it has a way harder time critting and that's what makes elemental viable; crit element.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Effective elemental damage = display element / 10 * sharpness * (1 + affinity * crit element damage)

idontknow
idontknow

the whole game is deviantart rathian oc recolors
no it isnt
WELL HERES A LIST OF 50 MONSTERS I DONT LIKE SO YOURE WRONG
no
CALLED IT

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I don't know which autist you are referring to. That was my first post regarding this. I literally opened monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Frontier:_Monsters and listed all the eyesores.

It looks like shit.

Yes, look at this exercise in restraint and clear visual design language. Idiot.

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Bidwell
Bidwell

holy shit it's ridiculous how much better than the other lances the jho lance is

Flameblow
Flameblow

*gunlance

RumChicken
RumChicken

I caught a jho.

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happy_sad
happy_sad

[things I want to read in your post that you don't mean at all]
[developing that stupid point I made up]
[calling you names]

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Not him but jho bow is a better elder seal bow, but has pitiful dragon damage. It's probably a better bow for shit like Kush for that reason, but if you want raw dragon damage, you're better off with Vaal or Dragonbone.

Basically replaces your nerg bow.

SniperGod
SniperGod

this abomination
not deviantart
Your brain on frontier.

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Done

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

jho gunlance is outclassed by pink rath for regular play and zorah for shell spam

not getting wide 4, instead being the 50th gl to get long 3
missed opportunity desu

happy_sad
happy_sad

We all did.

TechHater
TechHater

Thanks

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

legitimately thinks pobo is deviantart
thanks for confirming you are retarded and not worth a reply

askme
askme

How do you get Attack Boost 7 and Max Might 3 with the Jho set? You're one slot short.

massdebater
massdebater

you realize that nergigante looks like the deviantart version of this monster
what are you even arguing here, all monster hunter games suck because it's not 100% pure animals? even great jagras has spikes, whoops where did that deviantart shitmon come from

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Still better than Barioth.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Jho gunlance is the highest DPS gunlance of ALL, you simply don't shell with it.

whereismyname
whereismyname

augment jho weapon twice with slot up to get an additional lv2 slot

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

4 damage difference
requires 7 attack jewels
wew, i'll stick with jagras.

Lunatick
Lunatick

mfw I unironically thought the jho GL would be long 4 and I would use it until g rank

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

You realize Nergigante is trash?

MPmaster
MPmaster

So what's the best augment setup for LS?

farquit
farquit

same

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Flameblow
Flameblow

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Illusionz
Illusionz

This is a compelling monster design

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Can someone redpill me on what G-rank is, should it be solo, etc.

happy_sad
happy_sad

the fuck is your definition of "deviantart"?
if this is it, 90% of the mainline roster is deviantart too.

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5mileys
5mileys

What's the highest damage build you can make with Jho's lance?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Neph, your trip.

DeathDog
DeathDog

no wings/10

Supergrass
Supergrass

b-b-but Frontier is DUMB!!!!!

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Booteefool
Booteefool

I almost always catch jho to save time. Of the dozen or so times I've fought him in sos, we've only killed him twice.

Methshot
Methshot

It has nothing to do with the art, what I'm talking about is how the monster's movesets devolve into retarded mmo aoe 1shot nonsense. Did you even read my post?

Yeah, what jho really needs is to be able to jump into the air, slam himself, and damage anyone within the area.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

The Jho Gunlance is the best Gunlance in the game you dumbos

cum2soon
cum2soon

Still on? I'll inv you to the Xbone /mhg/ squad

TreeEater
TreeEater

and now we get to the root of it.
BING

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RumChicken
RumChicken

This isn't deviantart
This is a good monster design

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StonedTime
StonedTime

But it IS an mmo.
Explain what would make endgame superboss movesets acceptable in your eyes?
Just make them move so fast that you have no time to do anything? You'd cry about that too.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

"Deviantart" is any design I don't like or think looks stupid.

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Booteefool
Booteefool

tfw first deviljho investigation is 2 silver 2 gold

15 minute 2 player

Spongey motherfucker

Spamalot
Spamalot

i helped catch a Jho

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Nerg's spikes serve a purpose for gameplay reasons and also make sense thematically. Frontier monsters don't look like shit because they have spikes. It's because they have neon colorschemes, with neon glowing spikes on top that serve no function other than to look stupid. Much more subtle and classy design, if you cannot see the difference between nerg and half the frontier roster I don't know what to tell you.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Isn't outclassed by them for smash spam though

Emberburn
Emberburn

This is, too, a monster design

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

jho is limping away
goes off the map to jump across rocks
flash his green ass mid jump
he falls out of the map
laugh
>50 minutes later fail the quest due to time out

RumChicken
RumChicken

A well designed moveset that's challenging without being retarded bullshit?

Just make them move so fast that you have no time to do anything? You'd cry about that too.

When you have to make up "hypotheticals" about someone's views of things that says a lot about the stance of your position.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

But duuuuude huihuiuijioiuijlkuuyuiki's spikes serve a purpose!!!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

retarded mmo aoe 1shot nonsense
this is incorrect and shows you haven't played the game
in fact have you even played any g rank monster hunter?
getting oneshot by strong monster attacks is literally normal in late g rank in any monster hunter iteration
if your "mmo aoe" is supposed to imply you cannot evade or avoid it, that's also wrong

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

who is keeping the other thread up?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Smash spam is still king so yeah. But some people like to play with burst fire or charged shelling.

TechHater
TechHater

If you're min-maxing and looking for max damage and fastest clear times then Attack in every slot. Even on Reaver which has negative Affinity- when you have Max Might + Weakness Exploit + Affinity Booster you're over-capping your affinity so the deficit doesn't matter. There's some argument to be had to maybe using 1 Affinity augment on Reaver to reduce the penalty when AB is down but 55% (60% if you run Attack Boost 4+) is perfectly healthy with just MM + WE so you should be fine.

Beyond that some people like Regen gimmick builds but given that you're probably using Nergigante set bonus anyway I don't think it's necessary. It's nice QoL sure but if your aim is to get good at fights and min-max then attack is always the way to go.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

They WANT it to be retarded bullshit. It's something only the most autistic of players are even supposed to be able to defeat.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Was titty physics on the female Jho armor ever confirmed?

If so, I require video proof.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Deviljho
Spongy

Oh fuck off.
You can literally kill him in 5 minutes.
I'm fucking glad we finally have a monster that doesn't die in sub 2 (Except with Cluster HBG)

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Nerg's spikes serve a purpose for gameplay reasons
hyujikiki's spikes don't exist for gameplay reasons even though his entire fight is based around them
spikes don't exist for gameplay reasons unless i know the reason, and since i haven't played it, i don't know shit

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

we all knew jagras gs was stronger
he can finally shut up
Based /r/monsterhunter

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

next time look at the picture before you post

girlDog
girlDog

Holy shit they buffed the longswords foresight slash too much, it's ridiculously easy to pull off now. Did the other weapons also get buffed this much?

idontknow
idontknow

this is incorrect and shows you haven't played the game

Oh, so the gameplay I've seen where people get hit by those attacks and have their health bar drop to 85% of what it was didn't exist then?

And what does that change? It's still retarded bullshit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Or if you simply didn't miss out the duplication glitch.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

So you haven't played any G-rank games then. Gotcha.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

virtually identical

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MPmaster
MPmaster

If you unironically think G rank OHK are the same thing as frontier OHK I seriously doubt you played any of them.

SniperGod
SniperGod

What do you main and why do you like it?

GS because I don't have to worry about status ailments, elemental damage or any of that shit. I like the simplicity and power of a big hunk of metal/bone and the only worry being keeping it sharpened.

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happy_sad
happy_sad

drop to 85% of what it was
Oh boy attacks that take out 15% of your health sure are utter BS.

w8t4u
w8t4u

The Foresight Slash buff is the most unneeded and overpowered buff shit they have ever pulled.

I mean it wasn't even super hard to pull of beforehand but now it's literally:

Monster looks at you
That's a foresight slash, thanks!
Monster walks in your direction
That's a foresight slash, thanks!
Monster roars
That's a foresight slash, thanks!
Monster does literally anything next to you
That's a foresight slash, thanks!

Bidwell
Bidwell

There are enemies that are resistant to thunder or outright immune to it, causing you to do pitiful damage. This is why you don't use elemental bows with low raw on everything. You will only get the raw value on attacks that have low motion values. Your sources at wherever are retarded and led your astray. Give them up and embrace your new God.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I miss slutposting compared ton console war babble

Booteefool
Booteefool

. I like the simplicity and power of a big hunk of metal/bone and the only worry being keeping it sharpened.
That will change my friend. I won't rest until all Raw weapons are nerfed. CB was first, you're next.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Your set has Max Might 2 but you're calculating with 3.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Absolutely not uninspired
The result of eating cacti

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whereismyname
whereismyname

In G rank monhun games the 1hko attacks were already strong to begin with. It's just a byproduct of g rank monsters getting their attack increased. In frontier their moveset becomes nothing but that retarded shit. Do you seriously not see the difference?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

they are comparing hyujikiki to nergi, which is a fair comparison because both of them have very similar mechanics

the only major difference is nergi is an elder dragon, and does not leave his spikes on the ground, where hyujikiki sheds his spikes on contact in addition to shooting them.

the main attack they both use is virtually identical, a spike shotgun.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

main
you need to go back

WebTool
WebTool

Holy shit they buffed the longswords foresight slash too much, it's ridiculously easy to pull off now.
It was already pretty easy if you were good with it, so this buff only really helped the scrubby LS players which I'm not too fussed about. The real buff I'm loving is the Helm Breaker knock-back immunity. Way more openings are viable for Helm Breaker now and it's super fun.

Did the other weapons also get buffed this much?
Sort of. Crit Draw is now somewhat viable again for GS so that's cool if you're and old-school GS user. IG got a bunch of cool QoL changes and the buffs are slightly better + last longer so if you were already an IG god this patch has been nice. People are shitting themselves over the CB "nerf" but really it's just that phial damage on Impact phials have gone down on SAED - normal AED is very phial efficient damage now so that's cool. Also elemental CBs builds are low-key quite good now, but don't tell the grugs in /mhg/ you heard it from me.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

you're all retarded dumb fucks, jho GS is much better because the white sharp gives is a 1.22 damage multiplier over jag on your charges.
b-b-but muh reddit math

iluvmen
iluvmen

MH is prime for /v/ trash right now, it can't be helped and it'll get even worse if another switch MH comes out and it doesn't do as well as World

Firespawn
Firespawn

Wow you said something I disagree with, you must own a console I don't like, go away Atari 7800 drone

Nojokur
Nojokur

G-Rank is to High Rank what High Rank is to Low Rank.

In the past it was locked for multiplayer quests, so people took it as a badge of honor to solo those quests. They had no choice either way given that they had no one to play with in the west anyway.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

how did they improve so many hitboxes and then manage to make jho's hitboxes worse than before

Flameblow
Flameblow

why do you insist on making up arguments to argue against a game you never played?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Speed eating 3
Whoops, gotta take a quick sippy

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What do you think the 1.20 with jagras and the 1.32 with Jho are, you fucking mong?

massdebater
massdebater

I still am getting knocked back during helm breaker, so that buff is some bullshit. I still can't just slam on buttons to do combos.

IG is way stronger though, yeah, the buffs last so god damned long now with PP3.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

That can actually happen? No way.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The apex of creature design

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iluvmen
iluvmen

not him, but frontier monsters typically can only oneshot with one or two attacks, unless you are fighting a musou or GR800 zenith, then everything is a oneshot

likme
likme

Oh gee, it's a "Your argument is wrong but I won't prove it wrong and instead will say you're 'wrong'" 'argument'.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

HH.

I like the concept and the feeling of simultaneously beating heads in and buffing my allies.

Methnerd
Methnerd

amazing
i have 3 4 box 1 faint temp kushs
shits scary

Firespawn
Firespawn

You're missing one slot to be able to pull of Attack 7 and Mighty 3.
You added an additional Maximum Might in your calculation

Your math is wrong, you can only go up to Maximum Might 2.

((((1104/4.8)+5)x1)+21)x(1+(0.30x(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.20+.05)))x1.32 393.6768

You tried.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

World is my first MH game and I'm having a lot of fun but I also have a few questions. No bait or anything and I'd really appreciate a reply.

1. What are motion values? How does this affect attacks?

2. Is it better to carve or capture if I specifically want gems?

3. What is the best felyne skill to get from meals?

Thank you in advance.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

webm pls

Techpill
Techpill

What is aibou

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Nergigante becomes a mary sue whenever Kush and Teo go near him.
But the moment he goes near Zorah he goes full retard trying to attack the shell while getting smothered by Zorah's fireballs.
It feels like they want to sell Nergigante as the second coming of Zinogre, only to realize they went full retard and dialed back on it.

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idontknow
idontknow

i want to fullsuit jho

A or B? the skills aren't that bad desu.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Are any of the Jho weapons worth making? The Bow seems like it could possibly replace the Diablos bow, and the Lance seems good. Is anything else worth bothering to grind gems out for?

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

And you're surprised?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

the apex of cherrypicking.

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I'll bring it back when the PC port is out

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Yep, it's Jho
The armor sucks
Most of the weapons are whatever
No tempered Jho (lol?)
Oh well, I got my Plat, wake me up when World Ultimate comes out.

Inmate
Inmate

Does Jho Horn beat out Bone Horn or nah

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

HH
GS
Lance

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Literally the same.

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I still am getting knocked back during helm breaker, so that buff is some bullshit.
The changes mostly help those situations where you would get "nudged" out of the helm breaker falling animation by monsters turning etc. but I've had it seemingly give protection against some bigger hits too so it's possibly slightly buggy? Also it only protects during the falling stage of SHB if you weren't already aware.

IG is way stronger though, yeah, the buffs last so god damned long now with PP3.
I low-key think that IG is quite good now. It won't be breaking any DB / Bow speedrun records but /mhg/ shits on it way to much compared to how actually functional it is as a weapon choice.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

lance and hh are new best in slot

jho gs is top tier, MARGINALLY worse than jagras but it looks a lot better. not much difference in it

hammer is great, still outdone by blos but great

the glaive is pretty good too.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

but that is an argument, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. a normal g rank monster in frontier only has a few moves that will one shot you, just like any given monster in a mainline game.
you watch a few videos of white nargacuga and think the entire game is nothing but that. thats like the equivalent of watching a video of super crimson fatalis and thinking every single nudge a monster makes will oneshot you like he does.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Pard

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TreeEater
TreeEater

Jho is stronger not even counting the sharpness mult on GS
Oh boy.
Jagfags BTFO.
Reddit BTFO.

Flameblow
Flameblow

If they nerf TCS I swear on me mum there'll be reprecussions

RumChicken
RumChicken

Motion value is a modifier/multiplier on an attack that dictates how much damage/what portion of the weapons actual damage each attack will deal. Hence why you get different numbers from different attacks

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

1
motion value is a fancy term for the strength of an attack, a little stab might have 5MV (doing 5% of your attack as damage) while a powerful swing might have 45MV (doing 45% of your attack as damage)
2
in world there is no droprate difference for slaying vs. capping
capping ends the hunt faster so it's technically better to cap for that reason
3
you cannot really control your food skills in world as well as in previous games, so there's not much point in taking it too seriously
felyne insurance is probably the best one for multiplayer

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

That's an alright design, until it starts fighting.
Here's another abomination
Wow what a great colourscheme, I wish I had neon yellow veins

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Most, if not almost all of them, are better than what we had before for dragon elemental stuff like bows, DB, etc. I think it even tops previous raw builds if the monster has any sort of weakness to dragon.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

blos bow ever
muh raw

massdebater
massdebater

His math is wrong see:

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

tfw Close Range Up doesn't affect cluster ammo
Well that sucks

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I thought it was MARGINALLY better than Jagras with higher requirements?

Methshot
Methshot

a fucking joke, just like everything in this game

SniperWish
SniperWish

Join a 4 reward T Kush
1 faint
2 nips started the quest
Hear a female voice
Oh fuck
It's a nip and his nip girlfriend
We aggro Kush
It generates tornado
Flash it down and paralyze it
FemNip just waltzes over to the tornado and gets one shot

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farquit
farquit

hating on water gravios
the apex of shit taste.

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I want to breed a Kirin bitch

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

fuggg

King_Martha
King_Martha

yama but redder
The apex of recycling assets

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

They both forgot the sharpness mult:
((((1104/4.8)+5)*1)+21)*(1+(0.30*(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.20+.05)))*(1.32*1.5) = 590.5152

Skullbone
Skullbone

FUCK I WANTED JAGRAS TO DIE

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StonedTime
StonedTime

its yama but an actual fight, which you'd know if you had played the game.
it gets a lot more red halfway through the fight and all the foliage turns orange.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Are you retarded

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

you will have to go through me first

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Wow what a great colourscheme, I wish I had neon green veins

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Booteefool
Booteefool

What's the safest weapon and style choice against super Azurebolt? I've been trying to solo this guy and feel like pulling my hair out.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Tfw basic math is too hard for /mhg/
I would expect no less

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

used all my Warrior Streamstone: Sword on Barroth GS because I thought for sure Jho's GS would be rarity 8

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DeathDog
DeathDog

I know about the fight, we're not discussing fights, we're discussing designs, the other guy is talking about fights.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

there's already deviljho/handler vore
Wew lad that was quick

Lunatick
Lunatick

It's super easy to control. If you use a voucher, you get 100% skill acvitation.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Are you?
The official companion guides put GS TTC at a 1.5x multiplier on sharpness.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Too bad faggot

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Barroth GS

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massdebater
massdebater

Where are you getting this information, Kiranico doesn't say this shit.

Inmate
Inmate

assets include more than just the model, which is significantly different if you directly compare them.

besides basic idles, all of its animations are new (which is needed, since it is a real monster and not a scripted HP sponge)

idontknow
idontknow

Boost Sword will save us from Jagras, surely.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Alchemy Glaive, no contest

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Are you saying you want to be bred user

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I can assure you that's NOT how it works.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

plunder blade can grab gems? holy fuck

massdebater
massdebater

Are you memeing me? Alchemy glaive??

Evilember
Evilember

Pard in Japanese.

RavySnake
RavySnake

You're actually stupid.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Nice, you posted one of my most hated mainline design, want me to help you? Post everything from XX.
None of that affects the design.

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Reddit is wrong, they forgot the charge multiplier for white sharpness.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Thank you, and I accept being wrong. Frontier is still shit.

Booteefool
Booteefool

It says a lot about Brachy's design that it went unchanged into frontier.

Inmate
Inmate

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Who fucking cares if Jagras is better by an insignificant margin. Use what you want it's a fucking HR game.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

With Attack 6 and MM 3 you get
((((1104/4.8)+5)x1)+18)x(1+(0.30x(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.30+.05)))x1.32 = 399.0822
which is about the same as Jagras GS (399.096) not taking into account the dragon element. Jho also has white sharpness and Elderseal.

Spamalot
Spamalot

one of my most hated mainline design
do all frontier haters have taste this bad?

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Yes it does. Look in the damage calculation section.

That's wrong. It's (1+(0.32*1.5)) on the sharpness.
((((1104/4.8)+5)*1)+21)*(1+(0.30*(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.20+.05)))*(1+(0.32*1.5))
441.3952

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

not disliking Dios' design
do all frontier loves have taste this bad?

massdebater
massdebater

Jho is better then Jagras

Methnerd
Methnerd

Is meowtolve cocktail a meme?

TreeEater
TreeEater

tfw you'll never mating press her during a fierce monster battle as both your ghille mantles wear off

Skullbone
Skullbone

What people unironically call gay people in Japan.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Adept GS, Brave LS, Striker SnS
He has moves specifically designed to punish bad adept and brave positioning to be mindful to those.
Look up some TA runs.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

The Frontier shit taste is well known.
It's why they complain about XX designs so much.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

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Methshot
Methshot

WHAT IS THIS SHIT DESIGN
I BET THOSE SPIKES DONT EVEN HAVE A GAMEPLAY REASON LOL

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why couldn't Jho armor have Maximum Might. I want to stop wearing this shitty looking Nerg armor already.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

April 6th

TreeEater
TreeEater

Don't need to, they're where they should be.

RumChicken
RumChicken

This isn't quite right, either. I'm doing the testing now, trying to figure out what Kiranico actually means.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Charged Sharpness Modifiers
Lv1: 1.0
Lv2: 1.2
Lv3: 1.3
TSC Lv3: 1.5
Jho
((((1104/4.8)+5)*1)+21)*(1+(0.30*(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.20+.05)))*((1.32)*(1.5)) = 590.5152

Jagras
((((912/4.8)+10)*1.1)+21)*(1+(.40*(0+.10+.50+.30+0.05)))*((1.20)*1.5)) = 598.644

cum2soon
cum2soon

Is nobody going to point out that with AB active both builds cap Affinity even when you take away 1 MM from the Jho calc so for speed-kills it is likely straight-up better given it has dragon and elderseal as a bonus?

Techpill
Techpill

set swaps Latent Power 3 for Agitator 3 on the same pieces
set bonus: Insatiable Hunger
significantly raises attack the more your stamina bar shrinks
does this fix jho armor?

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

15% affinity = more damage then 210 dragon or am I missing something?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Probably adept GS.
I solo'd mine with A. GS and then with B. LS.

GS is the easier of the two since you can smack the charge out of the crest easier which stops the crest discharge.

SniperGod
SniperGod

That would actually be really nice, and something fucking unique.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

This discussion isn't about affinity boost your dong. It's about weapon vs weapon.

Jagras is better overal, AB is better on any monster that has a slightest weakness to dragon

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Sharpness modifier doesn't work as a 1.5 factor to the whole thing like that.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Thanks guys. How about the other super deviants? I've only done shredclaw and he was pretty easy desu

girlDog
girlDog

Can Capcom bring over Frontier already to put the "lol frontier is just giant explosions and red and blue dragons with a million spikes lol" to rest?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I went according to this nigger: Even though I suspect he's spreading misinfo.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

How do you all like the new lighting for the Guildcards?

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

You should treat that denial.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Math Hunter General

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

So it would be Hammer and DB armor?

hairygrape
hairygrape

bing bong wahoo becomes a bannable offence
mhg quality noticeably improves
based mods

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

GEE! Speed eating is such a great skill to have! I want to be full Deviljoe armor!

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

muh 0.01
If only numbers weren't rounded off, huh?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yeah it's not like that either. Does anyone actually have the guide?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

We might as well calculate the full hits:

Jho TTC 2nd hit
((((1104/4.8)+5)*1)+21)*(1+(0.30*(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.20+.05)))*(1+(0.32*1.5))*2.21=975.483392

Jag TTC 2nd hit
((((912/4.8)+10)*1.1)+21)*(1+(.40*(0+.10+.50+.30+0.05)))*(1+(0.2*1.5))*2.21=955.50234

mhworld.kiranico.com/guide/damage#sharpness-adjustment
The L is a 1.5 according to the companion

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

kobolds?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

It's not bannable, though.

Supergrass
Supergrass

fighting Jho with SnS
Good fucking god I do not remember it being like this

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

This design isn't terrible!
Why?
I like the fight!

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farquit
farquit

Mhg and jagfuckers btfo

Can we stop this argument now

Emberfire
Emberfire

Hardest is Hellbalde imo thanks to the cheeto dust combined with being a jumpy fucker. Have fun with that.
Or crystalbeard if you don't pick up a gun.
I think Azurebolt is fine, but not the hardest super. It's an enjoyable fight tho.

The easiest would have to be the crabs, Narga, malfestio, and tetsu.

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WebTool
WebTool

Do you own the companion? It doesn't work like you've posted. I'm curious about the actual wording.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Must be your first day, that's the whole fun of the game.

Flameblow
Flameblow

youtube.com/watch?v=x3ND0PEEWHQ
Tell me more about those great frontier fights.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Post the companion because I feel like everyhing you posted is wrong and none of it adds up.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Oh I know, but I think we need to give some credence to the fact that all the calculations we're arguing about are using base Affinity and just multiplying it out for sustained DPS.

While this is true for long term DPS without buffs in a practical sense when actually fighting Jho is dealing higher DPS not just against monsters with a slighter weakness to Dragon - but also in any situation where Affinity booster is active AND it gets more value out of attack buffs like Demon Drug?

Jagras Base Damage = ((((912 / 4.8) + 10) x 1.1) + 21) = 241
Jho Base Damage = ((((1104 / 4.8) + 5) x 1.0) + 21) = 256

Jho has a higher base damage calc to benefit from attack buffs + once you cap affinity in a fight it has higher DPS for that duration. We get into a habit here of looking at stuff in a shoebox but there is actually a decent amount of time in most fights where Jhos weapon is just straight up stronger.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Bow, maybe
HBG
Lance
Gunlance
Hunting Horn
Greatsword
Insect Glaive (Health Boost is garbage though)
Dual Blades

Absolutely not:

Charge Blade (shame, because it looks great)
Switch Axe

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

There's a better Jho set actually, trading 1 attack for 1 max might
Also add 15 attack for both from the charms

w8t4u
w8t4u

Just curious, but have you solo'd all of them (or most)? If so, how was your experience with that? I feel like a fucking shitter for triple carting to azurebolt, multiple time. It's gotten to the point where I'm starting to question my skills and self-worth, and whether or not I can solo the remaining 17 supers.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Savage Tempred Deviljho
when's Perfected Ultra Tempered Savage Instinct Deviljho?

Flameblow
Flameblow

jho armor is dogshit

why

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

This legitimately looks like an Aragami

FastChef
FastChef

I hate it.
My favorite pose looks like shit now so I had to change it.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So best Jho set is
6 Attack
3 Weakness Exploit
3 Focus
2 Max Might
1 Crit Boost

Correct?

girlDog
girlDog

Join tempered Odo/Vaal SOS
3 nips: bow, lbg, hbg
3 carts in under 5 minutes to fucking Odo
Holy shit I thought you guys were exagerating

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Snarelure
Snarelure

I can't believe you have to explain something as basic as that, it almost filled the whole thread.
What a bunch of retards...

JunkTop
JunkTop

because wants you to keep wearing Nergigante armor

askme
askme

Jho brought the Destiny fags and Nintoddlers back
Thread is too fast again
FUCK
OFF

Playboyize
Playboyize

Deviljho scalp

CAPCOOOOOM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Would rather the set be great for a few weapons rather than alright for everything

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Wait, what? What weapon uses nergi armor? I've been stuck in 2-3 dober pieces + eye patch FOREVER.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

No one is denying that Jho is better for some fights. We are just seeing how they fair on their own, that's it my dude.

I honestly don't think you should plan sets around affinity booster, but that's just me.

Inmate
Inmate

((((1104/4.8)+5)*1)+18+15)*(1+(0.30*(-0.30+0.10+0.50+0.30+.05)))*(1+(0.32*1.5))*2.21=1047.506408
He's not wrong.
Jho keeps getting better.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Oh god what did they do?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

So is there a tempered jho? if yes, what tier?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I run bow. Do not use the Jho bow.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

3 max might
mhw.wiki-db.com/sim/show/eJxtkU9PwzAMxb-KlfMObHDiVtbDOsYuQ9oBcfBSk0bLn5K4mkq1706yMVokbn7v_ezIziBsv_ESzY64qsUjCDEDUZP0MYm3QUjfOU7lQ7IdWspIwYzyCGs6kYG5OM9g5OYTbhk06zT7h1z8JRcT8kWrhvv_uenEV3I1Bf1FYWTfU34ibL3LxNY7gp3xDPurl1L67HRryfFlJ1EGVN7Bs3YKVoQ1FKZtMIMlWoyyi7BsKDI8EV9tjQfjI2wpeCiCjb9JcpRW6Jhgj3rSMgk2pMaGFbpay4AfnN7AYKGqKpE3OPi6L29nz4bMcRKDiEdtTLyUY3uS9-lMIqZVc3aXhe1v3-g6Y87fqgqVew==?hl=en

Illusionz
Illusionz

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Where's the Handicraft for white sharpness

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Destiny fags and Nintoddlers back

What the FUCK are you talking about?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

These things don;t seem to exist

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

For the umpteenth time that's NOT how the sharpness modifier works. I don't know how it works, but I can tell you for certain it's not like that.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Why is the CB bad? It looks so damn good

MPmaster
MPmaster

Also dogshit, and the fight is even worse.

askme
askme

haven't fought jho since 3U
when he reared back I instinctively ran in to avoid breath

such a good feel

likme
likme

No.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

youtube.com/watch?v=fgZqgiiMbDg

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Tier 2

Flameblow
Flameblow

Should I bother with Crit Element on the Jho HH? I loathe using Rathalos pieces.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Then get us some numbers, user.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Is this a rhetorical question or have you really, literally not seen how Guild Cards look now?
If you haven't, go check it out.
I think it looks like shit but it might work out better for your character, I don't know.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What skill sshould I be going for with HBG? Specifically the nerg HBG

5mileys
5mileys

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hairygrape
hairygrape

PROOFS

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Frontier SA has the worst weapon animations I've ever seen.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I've solo'd 11 of them, but have fought all of them super at least once. My laziness is why I haven't gone for the full 18 solos.

In general the super deviants are fine and fair fights with the exception of a few stinkers like dreadking, crystalbeard, or snowbaron. You can use whatever weapon or style that you want to fight them and do fine. You just need the endurance.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

some
Try most

viagrandad
viagrandad

Any of you guys fought Odogaron since the patch? I feel like his movements have gotten slower and chance of afflicting bleed on you have been much lowered.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Tierfag is fucking with you. There is no tempered Jho.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I miss prowler mode

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

kill my first ever Odogaron
3 plates
wtf, did I get lucky or does this quest give higher odds?

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Why? i don't get it

King_Martha
King_Martha

I honestly don't think you should plan sets around affinity booster, but that's just me.
If you're min-maxing or speed running why wouldn't you? If you guys aren't guys aren't doing these calcs for practical min-max fights then what is all of the conflict for?

Once buffed with Drug + Powder + Pill Jhos damage is higher since it has a better raw damage number to work from and when Affinity Booster is active there's no competition.

Every fastest kill time for GS, even on the nip side uses Affinity booster.

No one is denying that Jho is better for some fights.
The point is it's better for ALL fights once you're buffed and gets even better when Affinity Booster is active for that portion of the fight. None of these calcs even take into account dragon or elderseal which is just gravy on the top.

Spamalot
Spamalot

April

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

XX ruined prowler
Never forgiven

5mileys
5mileys

Jho GS without augments shits on Jagras GS WITH augments, why are we even having this debate?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

No one does.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

literally
literally
literally
literally
literally
Literally
literally
literally
literally
literally
literally
literally
literally
Literally
literally
Expand your vocabularies guys. Is this literally the only word you can use for emphasis?

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cum2soon
cum2soon

Autism.

Techpill
Techpill

Did they nerf a bunch of shit? My friend says they change the bazel horn and My zorah HBG can only shoot two clusters now with maxe ele up. But maybe thats how it was before and I just forgot.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Probably the same people pushing blos CB is still far and away the best. Gotta push that NBE meme

Techpill
Techpill

its the same guy

DeathDog
DeathDog

Also ignore the Aprilfag. There's no news of tempered Jho whatsoever.
Literal autism

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Neon Benesis Evangelion?

girlDog
girlDog

literally autism

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

what CB is best now? I don't have one and want one

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

What's a good set for Jho GS?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

/mhg/

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

post monster from frontier
everyone agrees it looks dumb
post monster from mainline
everyone pretends to not like it so they can pretend frontier doesnt have any good designs
its like harry potter, it rhymes.

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I'll answer your questions forever
What weapon is best
Max sharpness+Max raw
What CB is best
Max raw

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Spread Power Up, Evade Extender, Attack Boost, Maximum Might, Weakness Exploit, Critical Boost, Special Ammo Up, Free Elem/Ammo Up, and Focus are all useful for the Nerg HBG.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I want to get into SA. Apparently diablos and teo are the best ones, but why no bazel over teo?

girlDog
girlDog

Did you literally use Ctrl + F to find uses of the word "literally" and quote literally all the people who used it?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Benesis

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Jho for dragon.
Tobi for electric.
Rath for fire.
Jyura for water.
Legi for ice.
Blos if you're an autist who can't adjust.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

d. G-Rank will be piss easy.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Nah fuck this I'm not making a third set of elemental weapons.

happy_sad
happy_sad

So is Striker Lance gonna start being shit now that I'm in G-rank? Should I just bite the bullet and start playing Brave GS/LS or something? Even by late HR fights started to take longer and it was getting to be a slog.

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Methshot
Methshot

I don't pretend shit, If you paid attention you'd know I ALWAYS shit on Dios, Zin, Alatreon and everything from X and XX.

StonedTime
StonedTime

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eGremlin
eGremlin

literally vg's meme word

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How long are fights taking you, user?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Hey it's narga. I can fight it without having to pay a monthly sub. Face it, frontier i all about the over the top garbage, because it's the only thing differentiating it from other games.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Sorry friend: you're 22 hours too late.

5mileys
5mileys

Leviathan's Fury hits the training pole for 461 damage with a full TCS, which has a supposed +L modifier according to Kiranico. I know 10 points worth of damage are from the dragon element, so that's 451 physical damage. If there were no sharpness modifier, the attack would do 445 physical damage. So there IS some modifier here, but I can tell you for sure there's no 1.5 to be found.

hairygrape
hairygrape

How could they buff the Jho Armor to make it actually usable? Add a Set Bonus?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

What do you think would be more useful for a diablos CB set? 2 points of attack taking me from 4 to 6 or 2 points of handicraft?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

you can't fight a difficult narga without paying a monthly sub.

DeathDog
DeathDog

It's1.05

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Set bonus: consecutive hits within X seconds do increased damage

Set bonus: "final" hits of combos do boosted damage

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Bonus?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Is that white and literally nothing else?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

It's not.

No augments, no attack boosts. Just handicraft for white sharpness.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

looool jho is so easy!

I dunno I struggled a lot against him as a hammer/bow user. Admittedly I haven’t augmented my weps/armor but I have all the decos I need to melt elders so I thought I would be okay. He wombo’d me by spamming the dragon breath attack 3 times in a row. The third time I tried doing the delayed wakeup and he just delayed his breath attack

Honestly kinda spooked to fight him again

viagrandad
viagrandad

They started to drag out to 20-25 minutes by the end of HR.

iluvmen
iluvmen

veekyforums.com/thread/209278954/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/209278954/video-games

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Now that I think about it, chain crit isn't in world, is it?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

The meme set bonus someone shit-posted sounded fun and would make max-might viable on more weapons.

"Carnivore" - allows eating raw meat and eating steaks temporarily prevents stamina loss.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

What?

SniperWish
SniperWish

"no"

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

20-25 is too long even considering Hyper's bloated HP.
You're doing something wrong.

Emberburn
Emberburn

No

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

don't forget starving.

idontknow
idontknow

I didn't watch the video the whole way. Just noticed now that it turned blue SSJ and started spamming AoE's. Frontier garbage as usual then. Also, you frontierbabs are sure quick to point out difficulty without having provided any proofs from real MH games. Should be easy enough for you if frontier is as hard as you claim.

Skullbone
Skullbone

All fashionable armors are shit, its the curse.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

normal HR Jho damage is absolutely nothing
fight a Tempered Azure Los in a SOS
1 shotted jumping fireball
Can't wait for Tempered Jho

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

it happens in the middle of the fight, you can't damage it at all and the only thing you must do for 10 minutes is to avoid getting caught and eaten for your full health (even if it catches someone it won't stop until the time has passed), also Jho ignores any other source of food that isn't currently alive

askme
askme

e. G-Rank will be very slightly easier than in some of the previous games and everyone will pretend it's now braindead

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Whats wrong with Joebow?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Thank you for saying literally, otherwise I might have thought you meant figuratively the only word you can use for emphasis?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The crazy thing is, if he was tempered he would actually be a little difficult. Those tail swipes doing sizeable chunks would really make that fight hard as hell.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

How could they buff the Jho Armor to make it actually usable? Add a Set Bonus?
Set gives Attack Up +7 total rather than Handicraft, spread throughout all of it's pieces.
Speed Eating at max is the first set bonus, second set bonus is 1 level of Crit damage.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

do a Black Diablos investigation for ridges
get all the ridges I need and F O U R GEMS

I'm never getting another damn thing in this game and I don't cacare.

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

So he's like a super alatreon?

Skullbone
Skullbone

+20 Raw for 1 minute each time you eat a Well Done Steak

5mileys
5mileys

Yeah, I'm a LS main and even I think it's too much.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

NO SET BONUS

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

This is the gayest shit I've ever read

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