I don't understand how you play Shinobi. His feint game is trash because of the massive startup on his heavy followed by the huge stamina cost of doing so, and his dodge is countered by niggers just slide guardbreaking you.
Robert Garcia
Fuck I laughed so hard at this.
John Brown
What could possibly be more productive than spending time on For Goner
Kevin Thompson
>Go for a heavy >Cancel it >By the time you've even started your light attack, the enemy is mid swing on theirs The life of Shinobi is pain.
What if revenge never built up in 1v1 scenario. The only way to actually start activation for revenge build up would be, get hit by an external attack, block an external attack. Then depending on amount of enemies surrounding you increase the amount of revenge buildup or give a bonus flat increase for first time.
These changes are mostly quality of life, and he will likely need a little more love to level the other good heroes, but here goes.
>no longer takes extra damage when hyper armor is off >if an enemy is OOS, Oni Charge will cause knockdown >Charged heavy unblockable can now be hard feinted >Recovery after succesful charged heavy unblockable slightly improved, so he can't get freely GB'd
I have a bug from time to time where my controller will jsut stop being able to lock the camera. At some point, usually at the start of a match, the fps drop slightly and I cannot focus on character, thus being able to block, parry or anything.
Is this common? does anyone else have this issue?
Leo Gutierrez
>warden >shoulder bashes to the shit since it's the only good thing the class has >kensei >epic shit all over the place by doing a few swings Why would they allow this? Why would they make any of those two free-to-play with how god tier Kensei is while Warden feels as empty as being drunk and drinking from an empty beer bottle? It feels so fucking bad how terrible Warden is and now we have to wait perhaps a whole fucking year to get some news out about this? Still a great game though.
but then defensive play wouldn't be rewarding at all
oh wait lol
Nolan Diaz
kensai was bottom tier like 3 weeks ago, he just got his rework
Asher Morales
>Playing dominion >Completely destroying this Cent shitter who probably has never scored a kill outside of ganks >Suddenly, get impaled into a wall by a LB >Die, get executed >He does the choke, but because I was on a slight elevation he actually grabs my tits, not my neck >Then he does the pony emote on my corpse
Why the fuck is LB so lewd.
Juan Jackson
because they just recently added all that cool shit to kensei. last season he was even worse then warden
Lincoln Garcia
does warden have anything to catch backrolls out of his shoulder mixup?
Austin Perez
lol no. That would make him good, can’t have that shit
Joseph Lewis
>that helmet
me dikk
Joshua Jenkins
Man why are the devs so afraid of putting real mixups in this game.
You act like the only option being rolling out of Warden's vortex isn't anything but shit for the opponent. I sure do enjoy spending 25% of my stamina to get out of an offensive.
Jason Mitchell
It's god tier fashion, I'm so bummed it hasn't dropped for me yet.
Landon White
25% stamina to go back to neutral is fucking nothing.
Jeremiah Jackson
Because 1. They don’t even know how to make a fighting game or team brawler 2. They listen to a community who never want to be punished in 1v1s and want completely reactable moves 3. Shaman already exists and she has better “mixups” then the whole fucking cast.
Owen Morgan
WHHOOOOOOOOOOO buddy 25% JUST 25% damn nigga. You must be playing shug or Wardad if your STAMINA REGEN is super fucking SLOW IN DUELS NO LESS. Oh wait.............
Hunter Allen
>Stamina wasted to go back to neutral with no advantage is nothing Eat my ass
Leo Thomas
Yes, it's literally fucking nothing.
Joseph Gray
>you get set back to neutral and try again to fight then warden without him hugging your nuts to shoulder you >this is somehow bad
Wyatt Cruz
It is a net loss, it's an action that serves no purpose but to reset the field at the cost of your own stamina with no chance to counter-attack. It's the fucking antithesis to the core gameplay.
Charles Fisher
lol you're fucking retarded, stamina isn't a limited resource
Jack Hall
Which non-Viking hero is the most likely to casually get naked? I'm going to say Femnobi.
Evan Bailey
Jesus Christ is this what I'm arguing against? No, stamina IS a limited resource within a specific timeframe, just because it regenerates doesn't mean it's infinite you fucking twat. Rolling away costs more stamina than Warden's shoulder bash, you're in a position where to reset to neutral you had to expend more stamina than the aggressor.
Lucas Kelly
>within a specific timeframe WHO FUCKING CARES
YOU FUCKING SPOG
Chase Green
I'm tired of fucking kenseis in tournaments
Ayden Garcia
Going to keep posting my OC every thread for feedback and suggestions. I intend to keep making stuff but suck at it right now so need more ideas.
Stop having your gay sex in a tournament format then.
Jayden Diaz
>Freeze at the end of the match So this shit is still a thing huh. Last had it like half a year ago.
Nathaniel Stewart
>tournaments why do this to your self?
Joshua Morris
But then you are in a position where you can incredibly easily just avoid him until your stamina is back. It's like 1 second for you to regen that much.
Nice counterargument from a typical Warden player who thinks the vortex in its current state is fine just because he's C tier. It's a good thing his movelist is the size of a handkerchief or you'd have an aneurysm.
Vortex needs to be changed, it is the one combo in the game where literally the only option is to roll away. No other character is so poorly designed that they can force this kind of response. Even Highlander's 50/50 can be countered with dodging.
I was looking at buying this game since it's only 15 dollars for the most basic package and it's mostly grind to make up the difference in characters. What are the challenges for new players coming in late to the game and how bad will I be disadvantaged?
Kayden Jones
what one?
Lincoln Moore
That makes a lot of sense. I can see it bothering the other knights though.
Play the singleplayer Use the How To Play training mode Expect to die
Jaxson Ross
you did throw the placements didn't you?
Juan Thompson
Vortex is not fine specifically because you can completely shut it down by rolling away you absolute fucking subhuman, but if you couldn't Warden would be SSS tier because nobody else in the game has this kind of pressure. Go play ANY fucking 1 v 1 fighter and tell me if being able to reset to neutral while you're getting pressured wouldn't be absolutely fucking whack. Burst mechanics in anime fighters have a fucking massive cooldown, you can do it once a round AT MOST. Alpha counters / V reversals in street fighter are vulnerable to throws so by using it you risk losing a finite resource AND still have it get blown up. AND IT'S STILL GOOD AND USED BY EVERYONE.
>HUURRR BUT TECHNICALLY I'M SPENDING A BIT MORE OF A RESOURCE THAT REFRESHES IN 2 SECONDS SO THAT'S OKAY GOOD PRESSURE AM I RIGHT It's a game of coin flips where you can just throw the coin away and play another game entirely, it's fucking stupid. I don't even play Warden but holy shit your ignorance is mind blowing.
I'm taking a shower, you go eat tide pods or whatever it is you do on the regular.
just play the how to play for free 3000 steel then do the story then die like fifty times to the same bullshit and learn to counter it
Gabriel Walker
I'm still in the fucking placements fighting diamond 3s and 4s because it's a fucking nightmare to find a tournament on PC
Gavin Davis
Nigga, get standard edition. It's on sale, it's 20$.
Just so you know Warden's Vortex works in same way as Kensei's chain finisher. Both have 200ms of reactibility to the guy on receiving end. Except if the guy rolls you can just Nature wrath him again and repeat.
>Vortex is not fine specifically because you can completely shut it down by rolling away you absolute fucking subhuman Good God it's even stupider than I thought. LITERALLY every single form of pressure in this game is shut down by rolling away, all of them. Vortex is the ONLY ONE where the ONLY OPTION is to roll away. There is no parry chances, no dodge attack potential, not a single character-specific counter move that can stop vortex once it's rolling.
Take your own advice and eat those tide pods, the gene pool would thank you.
shitter confirmed. The only thing remotely close to a 50/50 in this game is Highlander's kick into caber toss mix up. That one you have to read properly or roll away. However, I'm honestly all for reads being in this game. We need more reads and less things that can be done on reaction. Also, show me video proof of countering HL's Kick/Caber toss mix up with one dodge. I have proof here of it basically being a 50/50. youtube.com/watch?v=3jLf1uqTvl8
>inb4 Warden main I main Shinobi.
Mason Sullivan
Keep rolling away against a PK, a shaman or even a berserker and see where that takes you.
No you fucking shitter. You can literally just keep proper spacing and backdash once. Also berserker can fucking backwards zone and nullify Vortex 100% of the time. 1v1 me you shit and play Warden if his vortex is so powerful and takes no skill. Let me get some fucking underoos and pants on first.
>You can literally just keep proper spacing and backdash once >Warden hits you >He goes for SB >You dodge in any direction >He slide guardbreaks You do know what vortex is right?
Highlander 50/50 is countered by dodging at the latest possible time on the kick. CT will whiff.
Yes, I know what a Vortex is. That's why I'm able to understand why Warden doesn't have one. Quite literally Warden is the biggest shitter destroy in this game, so it really says a lot when we have babies coming here to complain on fhg
Adam Perez
>warden has no vortex Thanks for helping raise awareness for autism
Ryder Thomas
>wildcat's rage so thats what the ridiculously fast shaman dodge attack is called
Christopher Hernandez
lmao this nigger thinks wardens throw sb from neutral, retard they throw it after a confirmed hit which makes the startup literally guaranteed on vortex. you have two options, dodge it and hope to god he doesn't cancel into gb, or roll out.
