/civ4xg/ - Endless, Stellaris, Civilization, and 4X

Evilember
Evilember

/rtsg/ /cbg/

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ENDLESS SPACE 2
Official and Unofficial Wiki
wiki.endless-space.com
endless-space-2.wikia.com
Community Hub
www.games2gether.com
Planets Stats
imgur.com/w5RO8TH.jpg
Ships Stats
pastebin.com/aabCNGau
Horatio splicing guide
pastebin.com/1cH8sqEH
Manual
cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/392110/manuals/User%27s_Manual_-_Endless_Space_2.pdf
ES2 politics guide.
pastebin.com/pDUQDpwA
Comics
wiki.endless-space.com/comics
Soundtrack
soundcloud.com/flybyno/sets/endless-space-2-soundtrack
ES2 prequel
www.games2gether.com/endless-legend/forum/6-game-design/thread/3572-the-last-flight-of-the-gray-owl

STALEARIS
Dev Diary #108: 2.0 Post-Release Support (part 2)
forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/1082789/
2.0 tech tree
imgur.com/lEybGx7.jpg
Pastebin(mostly outdated):
pastebin.com/YHdisqem
Wiki:
www.stellariswiki.com

ENDLESS LEGEND
Manual:
cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf
Wiki:
endlesslegendwiki.com
endless-legend.wikia.com

CIVILIZATION
Browser Civ Game, plays like civ2 (shut down)
play.freeciv.org
Civ IV XML fix
www.dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE):
well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot:
www.multiplayerrobot.com
Civ 5 Mods
forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
Civ 5 More Mods
pastebin.com/5ANRmRur
Civ 5 Drafter
georgeskleres.com/civ5/
District Cheat Sheet:
civ6.gamepedia.com/District

ALPHA CENTAURI
Essential improvements:
pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements

MICROPROSE
MoM
www.myabandonware.com/game/master-of-magic-21t
Wiki
masterofmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Mod
MoO 2
gamesnostalgia.com/en/game/master-of-orion-ii-battle-at-antares

DISTANT WORLDS : UNIVERSE
pastebin.com/hubsc3ZS

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5mileys
5mileys

Spiritualist > Materialist

Follow Space God or robots will steal your garbage.

Methshot
Methshot

Horatio is my garbage.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Endless RTS one day. Hopefully.

Well, either a RTS or a RPG. A RPG would be nice too.

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StonedTime
StonedTime

I want an endless xcom like game.

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WebTool
WebTool

Well, an old XCOM then. One where you can level the entire map with explosive, and attack gangs and that Sirius cult, and where you can torture ayys for informations.

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Horatio is my friend.

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I just cant play with pacifist. Pacifist and spiritualist are ethoses that dont exist in my factions.

Inmate
Inmate

Mining guilds civic is pretty much mandatory. For all effects and purposes a player only has one choice of civic apart from it. To not pick it is a handicap.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I find influence far more of a restriction than minerals.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Yeah, my only issue with it is when you want to use an army to take a planet from a preftl, with pacifist you have to wait for that genetics tech and take it with an observation tower, and even then, you need to remove inward perfection. Last game I got the gene tech right about when I was going to start switching out of pacifist anyway, about the 2060s, so it worked out okay taking planets from them. The agrarian idyll + inward has such a big advantage over the others it's easily worth it.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

True, but both are always needed. Although minerals are more important in a war.

Inmate
Inmate

Well yeah but you're never missing it. And missing 10% of it is not very significant. Compared to claiming that one system that serves as a chokepoint and gives you 20 unowned systems to privately claim and colonize at your leisure at a moment of crisis is far more substantial. There are also tools to turn energy into minerals.

farquit
farquit

There are also tools to turn energy into minerals

Its the enclave only.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I don't choose mining guilds as an opener, agrarian+inner easily beat it, but you should always be missing minerals early on upgrading/building stuff. You did however mention claiming 20 systems, so that means wide and I play tall, so that might work out differently.

w8t4u
w8t4u

That is still a good tool to do so. Additionally trading with other cunts when you aren't a meme civic. Not many take the sale but enough do.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Yes, you grow with minerals more than anything else. But your rate of mineral growth is only a limiter for a short period of time, Influence is more.

I play tall too, I just secure a large area to transition into "wide" later. Though it isn't really a transition, it's after I've won the game playing tall and I feel like doing the boss battles.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

oh man, we really need to standardise meanings of wide/tall
I'm talking 10-15 systems total tall, with maximum planets within those. Influence is never an issue playing like that, except when trying to switch ethics, and even then, it's only because you can afford to run drone optimisation and cap overload constantly, and can mistime use of the edict with needing to switch. Capturing lots of systems wide, yeah, I can see influence being an issue then - you definitely want to be fanatic xenophobe, and hope for the -15% inf cost for outposts on leader.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

user from faction post.
I want to go for mines early on, not farms. Speaking of which, I might be missing either egalitarian or authoritarian for extra influence (not sure which).

RavySnake
RavySnake

Everyone goes mines early on, but the handful of farms you need anyway giving unity is a huge boost.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

What the fuck is that Unity you talk about? You mean the game engine?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Does the corporate dominion civic still require egalitarian?

TreeEater
TreeEater

The currency you use to buy the traditions with.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

amusing
ES2 runs on unity

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Must be recent, that wasn't in the game when I played it.

whereismyname
whereismyname

You haven't played for quite some time

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Wait, it does?
Am I retarded for not noticing?

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Last time I played was before they nerfed embassies, if it helps you.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Fanatic militarist, authoritarian, oligarchy
Mining guilds, corporate dominion
Thrifty, Industrious, conservationist, nonadaptive, sedentary

Best overall faction for playing wide (assuming wiz wont fuck 2.0.2). More energy, more minerals, slaves, some extra influence early game with authoritarian as well, extra firepower.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I always use them in the civ way of thinking, one city at 20 pop rather than five cities at five pop etc.
Which doesn't translate the best to Stellaris.

Most of my games usually go like I'm partially roleplaying Foundation. Small efficient science boy becoming a very very tall power, while dealing friendly with and manipulating neighbors.
And then enter into the fuck the plan stage of thinking where you can easily beat your neighbors. Which you think do and suddenly widen out really far as fuck the negatives for expanding after fifty-eighty years or pumping science and minerals super efficiently and then fight the late game shit and federations and then get bored.

I also kinda consider tall in Stellaris being "only core worlds". Three and then five being my first spheres of expansion, depending on if I can find big planets or not. Going tall with three planets is ludicrously better than going tall with just one etc.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Do not play 2.0.1!! Wait for the next.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

No, it's just that the game never tells you and Amplitude's competent enough not to show it. Unity has a bad fame because retards don't know how to use it.
Wew lad, embassies aren't a thing since 2 months after the release.

Evilember
Evilember

I thought embassies were federation's association status

cum2soon
cum2soon

Frankly, I gave up on Stellaris when they nerfed embassies.

Yeah, I remember the nerf was very quick. And I was very upset.

DeathDog
DeathDog

No. At first they were a special agreement made with empires that gave a passive increase in opinion over time. It was done on a 1 to 1 with each empire. Federation status works the same way to a group of factions.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

best faction
is neither FP or Machine

SniperGod
SniperGod

The only thing that destroyed the game was war exhaustion. Cancer of the highest order. I hope it gives wiz aids.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Both have less resource production and cant add conquered pops as slaves. The exception is perhaps influence on FP's because of minus 40% cost on outposts.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

If you're so concerned about resources why not go full Fanatic Authoritarian?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Because fanatic militarist will give -20% war exhaustion on 2.0.2. and oligarchy cant have fanatic versions of authoritarian/egalitarian for the corporate dominion civic.

likme
likme

Will wiz stop being a faggot and fix the barbaric despoiler civic to generate actual loot from wars?

Emberburn
Emberburn

BALANCED

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/dev-team-2-0-2-beta-patch-updated-26-03-2018-checksum-d07e.1084024/
The Plunder wargoal now reduces enemy Mineral/Energy production instead of being identical to humiliate
Plunder victory now gives minerals and energy relative to the number of enemy planets (between 500 and 2500)
between 500 and 2500

takes2long
takes2long

The Plunder wargoal now reduces enemy Mineral/Energy production instead of being identical to humiliate
Plunder victory now gives minerals and energy relative to the number of enemy planets (between 500 and 2500)
Pop abduction now prioritizes abducting pops to core worlds before sector worlds

There shall be loots naow!!

Fanatic militarist, authoritarian, dictatorship
Industrious, Thrifty, Conservationist, non adaptive, sedentary
Mining guilds, barbaric despoilers

Now you can make your plunders and fuck conquest (steal from here, steal from there), bounce between targets and get rich lel.

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

2500
It's jackshit

eGremlin
eGremlin

It counts in the beginning and its an added bonus for wars. Also stolen pops.

farquit
farquit

There shall be loots naow!!
Sweet fucking christ it's 2008

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

tips for playing Cultists in EL?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Its about time you can actually roleplay a warmongering thief without looking like some edgy tard from /pol/-/leftypol/.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

inb4 a derail about how /pol/ is bad

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Any discussion of ideas or political leanings is harmless. But a forum is only as good as its population.
And holy fuck do they have a problem there.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why roleplay a warmongering thief when you can roleplay the cockmongling cuckold that you are?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

low effort my man

You gotta either be more elaborate and reference "facts" or else just post a single rude word and be done with it. In-between reeks of falseflagging

Snarelure
Snarelure

white men

MPmaster
MPmaster

and white women should be the only ones allowed to reproduce

Bidwell
Bidwell

good post my 'pede

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It still has 23% less firepower in comparison to FP's but at least the given minerals makes it recover faster for another war and it gets to keep the pops if authoritarian.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I am above it all

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Do destroyed ships in stellaris not leave wrecks behind anymore?

Firespawn
Firespawn

No way, I am too.

There is an ascension perk that makes it so you don't leave wrecks.

FastChef
FastChef

I've seen several battleship wrecks during my recent battles, but they don't stay after the battle.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Not mine but I feel the need to share these qt3.14s.

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takes2long
takes2long

What the fuck, did they remove presentient traits?

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

balanced

cum2soon
cum2soon

Well shit for the others I get "file too big" and "image contains an embedded file" even though I grabbed both from here. Sucks.

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

check this thead
90% of the posts are whining about stellaris
Grow up instead of shitting on a game none of you actually play.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

take your pitiful (you) and fuck off to plaza

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

LE BALANCED FOR MULTIPLAYER XDDXD

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

How is he pre-sentient? he has clothes.

girlDog
girlDog

Let's just like play Submarine Titans together or something

Methshot
Methshot

Nigga you dumb?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Pre-sapients have no clothes. They have no clothes because they have no sapience and therefore they cant make them.

The absolute state of ES fags!

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

That's a bio trophy though.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

What does Quarrelsome mean exactly? The icon and description don't quite light anything to me

w8t4u
w8t4u

webmshare.com/Bj8xM
webmshare.com/8dRQX
The two other webums, so they don't go to waste.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Unruly, prone to dissent and mutiny.

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Man Stellaris really went all out to revamp the invasion system.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Am I fucked or can I hold them off? I've a 20k fleet + star bases at entry points

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Supergrass
Supergrass

just switch to skyhammer

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Sounds like it should increase unrest

Evilember
Evilember

implying
Nah, they'd ban me for using the name "Hitler".

Yaay!

Playboyize
Playboyize

The ai near where they spawn might be a little fucked, but your 20k + a good starbase can probably kill their main fleet, if you're unlucky, or lucky enough if you want the fight to see them in your borders.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

It depends on what difficulty you are on my man

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

The one after Captain, I can't remember the new difficulty names

SniperWish
SniperWish

Goodnight, Riftborn. Nobody will miss you.

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TechHater
TechHater

bullying Riftborn
PERFECT
New soccer match when?

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Does destroying all the homeworlds except yours give victory, or just capture?

SniperWish
SniperWish

can't reverse engineer FE buildings

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Enigmatic Engineering

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

balanced for multiplayer

but memes aside the FEs themselves forgot how to make these buildings
guess why...

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

2500
2500 is just enough to buy one battleship.
Why can't stellaris be allowed to have meaningful asymmetry between different empires?
At this point I'll start enough ES2 run before I do Stellaris, at least choosing between two radically different civs makes them play differently.

Inmate
Inmate

Why can't stellaris...
________
___
___________

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Why can't stellaris be allowed to have meaningful asymmetry between different empires?
user...

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Does anyone here actually enjoy Stellaris?

likme
likme

Aaah! La creatura! Dios mio...
Also anyone got that Reptilian Empire with La Creatura Syncretic Species?

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Then who does the maintenance/repairs? How do they even pilot the buildings without knowing how they work

massdebater
massdebater

not me, though i just started lurking again yesterday

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I enjoy conversations in multiplayer

MPmaster
MPmaster

sure

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

To be honest, I did enjoy Stellaris. Once the mystery and curiosity wore off the game became more of an empire creator. I’ve probably spent more time in the empire creation menu than playing 2.0. A lot of the issues I have are never getting fixed because Wiz is a faggot so there’s no point in playing.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

10/10

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Yep, I like it

Emberburn
Emberburn

I remember seeing the text about them forgetting, but don't remember the why? What was it?

Booteefool
Booteefool

How do they even pilot the buildings without knowing how they work
Do you think every person with a smartphone knows how it works?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

'they just like forgot it lmao they're so decadent'

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Dios mio...

Booteefool
Booteefool

using a smartphone is as easy as manning a power plant

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Fallen Empires are a meme anyway. I want the option to play as one though. That’d be bretty comfy.

idontknow
idontknow

That'd make me prematurely end my campaign
Fixed that for you.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

using a smartphone is as easy as manning a power plant
In futuristic automated power planet it probably is easier.

Other question is why we need pops working in plants that needs no or near zero maintenance

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Stellaris is shit
ES2 is getting boring
decide to play some homeworld remastered
game is too hard

I'm shit at video games lads

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

decide to play Homeworld
Fighting in real time is too stressful
Why did i become so autistic in the last years.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

multiplayer must be balanced

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You don't. Build robots :^)

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Let's have a comfy game of Submarine Titans anons, it's not very fast

MPmaster
MPmaster

I really need to get around to playing that damn game.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Same. I bet it's full of cute sharks.

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cum2soon
cum2soon

my favourite real time strategy game is sid meier's gettysburg

Spamalot
Spamalot

*Tips Materialist Fedora*

5mileys
5mileys

it's occupying home systems, not worlds, that triggers supremacy victory
if you destroy all planets in a home system, however, it will reduce the amount required for victory, as the system essentially no longer exists

viagrandad
viagrandad

2500 is around 2k fleet or more in corvettes with early tech (dont remember the exact unit price but it should be close). Its meaningful early game. It is also stated that you receive as much in energy which means even more minerals with access to the trade hub.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

youtube.com/watch?v=UHgu_fBlSjk

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

It has sharks suiciding into muslim dolphins

hairygrape
hairygrape

But 2500 is the maximum amount, what if you get 1000 or just 500?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Yeah. Only by testing.

TreeEater
TreeEater

what if you get 1000 or just 500?
Then it is true multiplayer balance

massdebater
massdebater

Poorfag who torrents here. Whats the multi meta on 2.0?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Looking pretty damn fine there, Your Majesty. I love the little touches that doing faction shit opens up. Even getting new types of population is just plain old cute.

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Emberfire
Emberfire

If only those pops weren't inferior versions of Hissho and Sophons. Having influence on all pops is just superior to all of them.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Like this if you cry every time.

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

The later population bonuses are none too shabby, I can see motivation for converting, especially to Mezari, since I've found that United Empire is pretty damn stellar at advancing in science.
I was mostly just about any new populations or heroes as a result of faction quests. Unique Heroes, new populations like the Foundlings, that sort of thing.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Why Sol system is always a end-point?
Is this wiz being lazy?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Yeah, that's cool. I wish the game had more heroes availible though, it sucks how you get maybe 2, 3 at best natural hero spawns from the academy before it goes on a lockdown and maybe 3 more from the market. EL had better hero availability.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Iirc it spawns after galaxy generation and it's script is to create one lane to the nearest star.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Is the game "meant" to be played with the Academy Quest off? Because I tend to prefer doing that, since the AI can be downright retarded about how it behaves so it's rarely fun to actually play with the Quest online unless I'm with human players.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I don't bother turning it off since it starts so late. My complaint is more about academy hero spawns being so slow, even when the academy is discovered right away. It's hard to imagine how few heroes there'd be if we actually had to build the academy embassy to start getting them.

Firespawn
Firespawn

people in paradox plaza are saying that habitats are good
Do they even play Stellaris?

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Booteefool
Booteefool

they're just bad players, user

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

You don't have to build the Academy Embassy to start getting Heroes?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Either that or discovering the academy. Unless you are playing on a Twin Elliptical galaxy that's likely to happen right away.

Techpill
Techpill

mezari certainly have their uses at times, but sheredyn are disappointingly bad - especially because you already start with hissho pops to fill their niche
at the very least, sheredyn should get a more useful collection bonus, as the 50 hissho law (reinforce manpower anywhere in the galaxy) blows them out of the water. ideally, they should also get their own pop yields as well - something like % reduction on ship industry cost or +XP on constructed ships would be both unique, useful, and very flavorful for the sheredyn as an elite naval guild

Nojokur
Nojokur

only /civ4xg/ shitters think habitats are bad

5mileys
5mileys

about to start my first game of Endless Legend, which faction should I pick?
also, what are some differences between this game and ES2 that I should be aware of?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

If you don't play AoW3 with city founding off you're playing it wrong

B R O K E N L O R D S

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

that one guy in the general who hasn't done the maths on habitats
What's your story?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

what are some differences between this game and ES2 that I should be aware of?
Luxuries are different. In EL they serve as empire-wide boosters that you can activate when you have enough of them.

girlDog
girlDog

wild walkers are a very straightforward industrial wide faction that are new player friendly, and vaulters are a very straightforward turtling science faction that are new player friendly
while they are the most basic and boring of the factions, they are still the most approachable. probably the most important things to know right out of the gate are that winter is brutal and that cities only exploit the hexes directly around their districts, and that districts level up when they have 4 other districts next to them.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

an ascension perk that removes ship wrecks
Why? Why would anyone take this? Why would they add this in the first place?

cum2soon
cum2soon

that seems unironically B4M

takes2long
takes2long

quite literally balanced for multiplayer for once

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

if filled to the brim with minerals, takes a little over two decades to pay itself back at the cost of increased unity and science
if filled to the brim with science, stops being a net gain and becomes a net cost past 480 science of a given type
only legitimate use is putting resource replicators in them, but even then, it requires a massive portion of the habitat be dedicated to energy and food to break even, leaving space for only a single replicator. Takes even longer to pay off than just cramming the thing full of astro mines

Habitats are useless

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

shut up baddie

Flameblow
Flameblow

so no one can reverse engineer your shit, literally useless I know, the +2 sensor range or whatever is alright though

King_Martha
King_Martha

And the best part is that the ascension perk only works again other players, the AI empires get the tech from wrecks even if you take the perk. Might be fixed in 2.0.2 but I haven't been following the progress.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

If you liberate a vassal, do they start with 0 ascension perks?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I cant play a tall empire for the life of me
I always suffer a lack of minerals and my development gets slow

happy_sad
happy_sad

You are suffering from a bad case of balanced for multiplayer.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

what is this balanced 4 multiplayer meme ?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Can you change your primary species?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

It's a meme balanced for multiplayer

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

A big issue with Stellaris is that the developers focus more on making things fair and balanced in multiplayer than actually making things interesting. Ever wonder why megastructures were so underwhelming?

Nojokur
Nojokur

upgraded to 2.0 again to see if it got any better
still a chokepoint and line meme
I hate this meme

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

What exactly does "Scaling" difficulty do?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

dear god whhhyyyyy do empires get angry at the overlord over vassal claims, its not my fault my xenophobic tributary decided to claim literally fucking anything in sight.
why are feudal empires the way they are?

Soft_member
Soft_member

the AI gets bonuses gradually as the game goes on
its fairly easy

girlDog
girlDog

still a chokepoint and line meme
that was the point of 2.0 user

Flameblow
Flameblow

2.0 breaks the entire game because they removed most of the way to traverse space and added a gay casus belli and static border system while copy pasting every other system from before these shitty systems were implemented
still not fixed over a month later

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Stellaris is released
still not fixed over two years later

SniperGod
SniperGod

just checked this. it seems when you release a vassal they get all your techs and traditions

Spamalot
Spamalot

wahh the ftl choice is actually balanced now

MPmaster
MPmaster

we know what Stellaris balance mean, it's not a good thing

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

choice

idontknow
idontknow

you're choosing to be a whiny little cunt now that you can't exploit wormholes

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Holy shit the hormany race is cool, was about to quit on es1 when I gave these guys a try and not having to think of dust makes everything so much easier.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

you get bonus for having ships in orbit
I hope that you at least played Sowers

whereismyname
whereismyname

Warp was OP. Exhaustion however...

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

if filled to the brim with science, stops being a net gain and becomes a net cost past 480 science of a given type
Can you link to the math you back that up with?

Inmate
Inmate

Aye, read that but forgot about it. Just park a ship in each system and get a FIS bonus?
Played the sowers when I first got the game, the colonize anything perk seemed cool but kept spreading too far too fast.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Just park a ship in each system and get a FIS bonus?
Yes. It's balanced by every ship halving your food income while in production, while colony ship outright stops it (like for other factions).
spreading too far too fast.
git gud
it's not about spreading, it's about getting all the excellent systems while taking only 50% of unhappiness from planets (planet type and anomalies)

Inmate
Inmate

stellaris became fun again
people hate fun
not even suprised

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

again
When was it fun?

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DeathDog
DeathDog

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I'm playing a small game as Pilgrims right now and man do they expand like the plague.
By the way does anyone know if expansion happiness penalty decays over time or if it's permanent? I can't access the wiki right now for some reason.

viagrandad
viagrandad

There is 34 of this, right? There has to be

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

check out bottom quadrant techs, iirc some of ship techs overlap with expansion disapproval reduction techs
rush infinite markets or whatever's the first happiness improvement

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

the beta going now seems to be addressing the forced peace when both parties reach 100% Exhaustion, but from what I hear it isnt gonna be pretty and that we should expect "Heavy Income Loss", to be honest I dont know why they dont just start taxing peoples influence to continue wars (I guess that wouldnt make much sense since one side will typically get 100% rather quickly.)

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Thanks. Currently building infinite super markets, but I don't think the game is gonna go on for that much longer anyway unless the Amobae backstab me.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Amoeba is a peaceful race, user.

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Methshot
Methshot

Are the changes to Barbaric Despoilers active in the current beta?

Lunatick
Lunatick

We're not here for your pleasure, cumbrain.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Why dictatorship?

Why not oligarchy, to go Corporate Dominion?

Snarelure
Snarelure

for those bitching about war exhaustion, as an aggressor its vastly more efficient to not be STALIN.
gee its like the empire is worried that they have a psycho leader that is just sending people to die.

cum2soon
cum2soon

What about machine empires?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Its simple algebra, user, but fine; here comes the plane.

If C is the cost of a tech, R is the research per month, and T is the time in months it takes to research that tech, then:
C/R = T

If you colonize a new planet, C becomes C' = C*1.05
Thus in order to maintain the same research time T, R must become R' = R*1.05

So he R is generally increased by addition, not multiplication, R' = R*1.05 = R + r
Where r is the increase in research per month.

Thus, at an r of 24 (research per science type for a full habitat):
R*1.05 = R + 24
R*.05 = 24
R = 24/.05
R = 480

At any R greater than 480, an r of 24 will result in less than a 5% increase in R, resulting in an overall increase of T.

Q.E.D., you're a fag

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

What about warrior empires?
What about devotedly fanatic empires?

Techpill
Techpill

What about hiveminds, especially devouring swarms?

MPmaster
MPmaster

I wonder if we'll ever get a research system that doesn't have those ridiculous equilibrium spots

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

idiots wont look at the good sides if any sides, if you hadn't caught on they jump to conclusions hard.

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

are the winter guys any good in endless legend ?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Its be nice if they formulated it where more systems/colonies just gave diminishing returns that approached some "maximum research rate" asymptotically instead of having stupid inflection points; but that'd require Paradox be good at math.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Can you be more specific

happy_sad
happy_sad

Which minor factions get the quests in Lost Tales?

likme
likme

No, only the spring guys are good.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

it really is a shame that they got relegated to a minor faction in ES2, as they were the most unique faction out of all the endless games (dust is not only unusable, but actively detrimental, approval doesn't exist, and you're actively encouraged to maintain a very large standing navy)
at least they're on the more useful side for minor factions in ES2, with great synergy with vaulters specifically

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

This, exactly.

happy_sad
happy_sad

because they are adopting your ethics right?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

if you're talking about allayi, they have amazing mobility and top-tier units, but you absolutely need to leverage it or you'll crash and burn. they are also the only faction that can effectively wage war aggressively in winter, so they've got that going for them.
they only ever reach their true potential in multiplayer, as you don't need nuanced play to win vs ai

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

nvm. they get the traditions, but not the ascension perks. seems like theyd be locked out of it forever

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Allayi's pretty much the only guys that can work with winter, so I'm guessing you're talking about them. Yeah, they're good. Make sure you murder the Necrophages as they're extra weak during winter.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

But if nobody returns to tell the tale, how are the people of my empire supposed to know everyone died? It makes no sense

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Bleh, so much for mid-game crisis

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RavySnake
RavySnake

The slot just popped up. So what happens is, they get the traditions and also get to repick the ascension perks

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Its simple algebra, user, but fine; here comes the plane.
It's not about spoonfeeding. It's about people making claims without supplying the evidence to back it up.

If you colonize a new planet, C becomes C' = C*1.05
This is not how the penalty system works, is it? I've heard people talking about how this is only for the very FIRST planet you colonise. Every planet after the first will be a smaller increase than actual *1.05 multiplication. But I don't actually know myself how the actual penalty is calculated.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Idle games are not strategy games. Post your screenshots in a more appropriate general.

Spamalot
Spamalot

calls someone a fag for asking how you calculated something
take your finger out of your ass

girlDog
girlDog

This is not how the penalty system works, is it? I've heard people talking about how this is only for the very FIRST planet you colonise. Every planet after the first will be a smaller increase than actual *1.05 multiplication. But I don't actually know myself how the actual penalty is calculated.
It's additive. Ignoring system penalty for now, the cost of a tech is increased by 5% for every planet after the first according to the following:

Final Cost = Base Cost(1 + (x-1)(.05))
Where x is the number of colonies you have, including homeworld.

Thus, at just homeworld, tech cost is 100%
At homeworld plus one colony, tech cost is 105%
homeworld plus two colonies, 110%
etc

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

playing as cravers
system right next to capitol is sowers with world architects
the next system is haroshem with agriculture experts
IT BEGINS

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Khan is always just a temporary joke at best. If you're next to him you're better off just temporarily kissing his ass until he dies in a couple years. Otherwise he can be ignored since he won't have nearly enough time to finish enriching his neighbors before coming to you.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

asks for a calculation on something that's easily found on the actual wiki, not to mention something that's been discussed nearly every thread
Excuse me for getting tired of repeating basic arithmetic that's easily verifiable with half a highschool degree.

Evilember
Evilember

Bump.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

veekyforums.com/thread/209734652/video-games
By turn 300/600 on Normal/Endless. It's also the game over if you play with Score victory.

Anyone else triggered by climate zones being region specific and not according to longitude or latitude? Pic related.

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hairygrape
hairygrape

Please do not bully the sowers.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Does Endless Winter come earlier on Normal or did you accidentally put the difficulties the wrong way round

DeathDog
DeathDog

I'm more triggered by regions like that one in the middle where there is only 1 tile between the other two regions in some spots.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

immediately eat all my haroshem slaves to make room for sowers
every craver produces 250% of the FIDS of a normal pop
every sower produces 150% of the FIDS of a normal pop plus 2 food
all of the planets that i care about have 0 depletion points ad infinitum
all of the shitty planets are depleted to get the % damage buffs
world architects halves the cost of terraforming, making fertile planets easy to reach
sowers law gives me +5% FIDS per fertile pop
agriculture experts makes starvation literally impossible, meaning i can run 0 approval the entire game with no downsides
literally unstoppable

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Are cravers the good guys if they're not actually destroying any planets anymore?

Soft_member
Soft_member

Barbaric Despoilers doesn't suck anymore.

Time to change the empire I based on the Sea Peoples!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

they're still enslaving and eating everyone else on an omnicidal rampage across the galaxy - hardly qualifies as "good guys"
also, according to deepest lore, cravers would never take the option to prevent planetary depletion even if it were possible simply because rendering planets barren husks is their only reason for existing

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

But user, the weather is determined by dust

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

No, it's just that the game never tells you
Literally every Amplitude game wins all the Unity awards for whichever years it is released. It is literally the poster child Unity showcases of what the engine is capable of doing if devs put in at least some damned effort into it!

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Kinda sad how even a basic "+2% lab output per every technology researched" would make research better and nobody thought about it, even if it merely staves off the inefficiency.
btw due to tech bonuses to specific research types for calculation purposes mean that habitats become shit almost always some time after 480 mark, but probably not by much unless you have like +50% or something
I've heard that Harmony was quite dull to play in ES1, but that doesn't mean they have to be relegated to minor faction status... Especially that I'd prefer Endless universe to keep this sugarbowl cthulhu style and some kind of ancientest, borderline force of nature faction fits that. We already have extradimensional invaders.
Instead of infinite winters it should be random.
Are Virtuals the good guys if they've created robots to fix mess left by their other (almost) robots?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Instead of infinite winters it should be random.
Why, the entire point of the game is that Auriga is dying and the winters are gradually becoming endless.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

What is your argument for Stellaris being fun?

TechHater
TechHater

If they are smart enough to do super advanced science and tell Endless to fuck off why can't they see that it's unsustainable and meaningless to pursue the "destroying planets" goal? They should have had a questline about that in my opinion, one that maybe changes their pops.

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It's their most basic function. It's like trying to will yourself to stop breathing.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Harmony was basically riftborn with dust allergy. They both sort of filled that "reverse-terraformer" niche

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Not having heroes to manage really killed the Harmony for me. ES1 feels so boring without them.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Did they really? Only other faction with terraforming focus were the Sowers, but now they're more neutral and about unshitting the existing ecosystem. Harmony didn't really care about life of how nice the worlds are, they worked with food too, they just really fucking hate dust.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Humans are built by millenia of evolution to be hunters, that doesn't stop some of us from becoming vegetarian. Additionally depleting planets is a sequence of actions that's a lot more complicated than just "feeding the hive". And obeying the Endless is one of their basic functions too, yet they can reject it. Even necrophage quest in EL has a bit of existential crisis their leader has when he realises that they are doomed to be mindless animals, Cravers have tools and science to actually change their ways to something more sustainable. Something they chose on their own instead of being forced into the role by the Virtual bastards.

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Booteefool
Booteefool

All of them.

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Wish there were minor-major faction specific quests, like Cravers-Sowers (about what you're talking about), Riftborn-Harmony (let's hate organics TOGETHER), UE-Pilgrims, etc

idontknow
idontknow

It was a while ago, but i remember turning all my worlds into gas giants as a harmony for some reason

Evilember
Evilember

also, according to deepest lore, cravers would never take the option to prevent planetary depletion even if it were possible simply because rendering planets barren husks is their only reason for existing
Man, the Virtuals were such pieces of shit to create the Cravers.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The virtuals in general were massive pieces of shit tbqh

Flameblow
Flameblow

Concretes were right.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

t. concrete scum

StonedTime
StonedTime

t. concrete

Emberburn
Emberburn

Harmony didn't really care about life of how nice the worlds are, they worked with food too, they just really fucking hate dust.
Harmony existed to fuck up everything for every other faction. Riftborn are the same plague upon the galaxy.

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Snarelure
Snarelure

Life is a disease. We are the cure.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Do NOT bully the riftborn

RavySnake
RavySnake

Virtuals killed Auriga. Twice.

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Evilember
Evilember

I wish endless legend had nukes so you could kill Auriga faster.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Say that to my face, not online cultist-scum!

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SniperWish
SniperWish

they both were, but ES1 Sowers rly made u thunk if all Virtuals were bad

TechHater
TechHater

ES1 Sowers
xenociding every diverse biosphere and replacing it with a cookie-cutter themepark McPlanet for Virtuals to feel at home during the 1% of time they go for a stroll through meatspace
good
Concretes should have killed them harder!

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

the cravers never had "serve the virtuals" hardcoded into their genetics, funnily enough; in endless space 1 it was true that they were actually dropped onto planets as larvae to prevent them turning on their masters out of sheer aggression and bloodlust, and even in ES2 they rarely if ever interacted with their virtual masters, only getting the orders "destroy everything where we drop you" before being dropped onto planets and picked up a few years later to be dropped again - orders that they followed simply because it appealed to their only two base instincts (murder things and destroy ecosystems) and because the virtuals were their only way of getting from point A to point B.
fast forwards to ES2, the reason why you have an option to refuse the virtuals' commands is because you don't need them to be able to destroy planets - you made your own fleets, and they now have the audacity to demand that you completely and utterly submit to their will for little in return.
for the cravers, it was never a question of "do we want to follow our programming" - it was a question of "what is the most efficient way of doing what we enjoy - murdering people and strip-mining planets"

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Flameblow
Flameblow

Virtuals do not go to meatspace, that's the thing

King_Martha
King_Martha

it was a question of "what is the most efficient way of doing what we enjoy - murdering people and strip-mining planets"
Cravers=ork atlastItrulysee.png

see pic related. Virtuals visit meatspace.

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

bodiless
That aside, Jesus fucking Christ why they're terraforming shit if it's supposed to be for research? Are Virtuals some OCD turboautists that they need to make sure now and again worlds are being terraformed?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Theres no need for corporate dominion because mining guilds>corporate dominion at early game while the second is barbaric despoilers (assuming war ofc). It could be changed later though for the third, but if war will be manageable in 2.0.2 maybe things like slaver guilds or nationalistic zeal might become more important. Depends....
As far as dictatorship vs imperial, imperial should only be picked either for that feudal civic (not sure if anyone uses it) or if fanatic authoritarian because of the pull it gives to said ethos.

Firespawn
Firespawn

bodiless
You can be a bodiless dust-wraith and still go spelunking in meatspace. Just because you're Virtual doesn't mean you got to live in a motherboard forever.

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FastChef
FastChef

Terraforming planets is like a mowing the garden for the Endless

Techpill
Techpill

who knows, it may have been some religious group
remember that the endless weren't just two big factions - they were a huge amalgamation of subcultures, political groups, and religious sects from three different species native to tor that fit into two large groups - concrete (genetic/bionic enhancement) and virtual (computer uplifting)

Illusionz
Illusionz

Are they OCD turboautist that inspect each blade of grass to see if it's within acceptable boundaries?
this reminded me, what's the result of the vote for alien type?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How is Dictatorship better than Imperial? With Imperial, you get half of the heir's benefits.

Flameblow
Flameblow

What is the best war philosophy?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Are they OCD turboautist that inspect each blade of grass to see if it's within acceptable boundaries?
Yeah and if it's not good they nuke the planet and take another one

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Because you pick the next leader once the current dies. Therefore you chose the agenda. Also imperial will pull pops to authoritarian by itself.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

this reminded me, what's the result of the vote for alien type?
Wraith is winning. At least this time democracy, that whore, has not failed us.

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5mileys
5mileys

this reminded me, what's the result of the vote for alien type?
Wraith is ahead by like 2 million votes.

RIP prarasite ;_;

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

wraithfags denying that parasite is the superior option

Snarelure
Snarelure

2 million votes
It's GoodGoy points, not votes. I'm serious.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

This. Worst thing is I'm sure that all the people who voted Arachnid did it by accident like me

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The good goy points and the actual votes are never really far off.

SniperWish
SniperWish

denying the superiority of the ethereal over the insect

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

wraiths
not a failure

Methnerd
Methnerd

still can't get g2g emails to fire off to let me vote

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idontknow
idontknow

DUDE SPACE GHOSTS LMAO vs parasites with potential infection mechanics

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girlDog
girlDog

he's not part of the inner circle of top 200 most ascended whose points count for 60% of all points
I bet you're in the bottom 90% percentile.

You using gmail or some weird shit?

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TechHater
TechHater

gmail

happy_sad
happy_sad

Weird, I had no problems with it. You do check your spam folder, right?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Yup.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

ever sacrificing a settler for this

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

tfw there will never be a Shadow of the Colossus Aurigan Guardian slayer game
not sacrificing settlers for some sweet Drider milfs

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Spamalot
Spamalot

There might be, who knows what amplitude will do

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I don't think the event worked right, all those 20k fleets are stuck in their main system. 2.0.2 sucks

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happy_sad
happy_sad

It's an item that can be equipped by your regular units, not only heroes.

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Bidwell
Bidwell

The tooltip says exactly the opposite of that though.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Well-spotted. I had a brain-crash. Some other quest reward shield was also equipable by units.

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Soft_member
Soft_member

If you hire admirals of theirs do you get good relation with them?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Same way the factory workers at the Illinois Toyota manufacturing plant build cars and maintain the building, rote memorization and pictographs showing the steps on how to perform their tasks. Many of them don't know how to read and almost none of them understand what they're actually doing but they can repeat tasks.

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Send them to war with someone and then kill them.

Spamalot
Spamalot

No idea but I guess you won't. Not that they ever become a problem if you stockpile food

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Don't you want that, if you're playing Authoritarian?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Fleet management in 2.0 is such a mess. No rally points and chaotic organized clusters.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Since Auriga used to be a Lost, are these guys like her white blood cells?

takes2long
takes2long

nah, that's the morgawr

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is More Ship Classes a total meme? Trying it out for the first time and all it seems to do is clog up my engineering alternatives and add some pointless extra ships.

Doesn't even seem to buff carriers to at least make them viable.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

fleet manager is alright, I just wish it wasn't as nonimplemented

5mileys
5mileys

Can I torrent ES2 and just copy and paste all the DLC into my normal Steam distribution like with that crock of shit Stellaris, or is it more involved?
I'm a poor fuck and don't want to shill out more cashbucks on DLC right now.

Flameblow
Flameblow

If it's in the top 20, it's trash: golden rule of Stellaris modding scene.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How the fuck do I cultists in EL?
It seems impossible to defend all the shit you have to grab.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Snowball

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

With Imperial, you get half of the heir's benefits
wait, really?

5mileys
5mileys

How do they not suck still?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

you can steal up to 2500 minerals and credits each war, woo

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

It seems impossible to defend all the shit you have to grab.
Expand only in directions you can actually defend. And forget about ever surviving past early game in multiplayer.

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idontknow
idontknow

And also damage your enemy's resource income, weakening them for a follow-up attack.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

send a fleet worth 40,000 minerals to steal """up to 2500""" minerals
I don't think you've thought your warmongering through.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

BALANCED
FOR
MULTIPLAYER

Skullbone
Skullbone

Is the change to the Plunder wargoal effective in the current patch?

iluvmen
iluvmen

So it's like venice?

massdebater
massdebater

It's more fun. Venice doesn't get endless armies of the faithful to trample the infidels.

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Don't forget that in the time it took you to inflate that warscore, your fleet costed you 5000 minerals and 2000 energy in maintenance.

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Plus any losses. Losing two battleships sinks the profit from the entire war even if you ignore maintenance costs entirely.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It gives you the Adaptive tree and gives you some additional profit from waging war, in addition to letting you colonize new worlds with conquered pops -- what else do you want?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

plus Venice doesn't get a fucktons of resources anyways
it's not a real city till there are no free tiles

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I would just wait until ES2 is done with development. They are still patching it and stuff.

FastChef
FastChef

what else do you want?
It to be good

cum2soon
cum2soon

it is good idiot

Snarelure
Snarelure

A six-fingered man?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

praise the endless

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

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happy_sad
happy_sad

How did they design this and not know it looks like a giant penis?

Was that the point?

SniperWish
SniperWish

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Bro if your dick looks like that get it checked out.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Maybe he's a horse. You never know.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

All mushrooms look like penises. That's exactly the joke. God's joke.

farquit
farquit

But then how does he post? Only humans can solve captchas and horses have no concept of monetary transactions to buy a Veeky Forums pass.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

That's what we want you to think.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Maybe a human pays for his Veeky Forums pass

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

All the finest racing studs have Veeky Forums passes.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Horatio.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

page 10

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

How would you build Horatio's empire in Stellaris? What traits, ethics, and government? What building and ship set? What name list?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Intelligent, Rapid Breeders, Charismatic, Sedentary, Wasteful
Fanatic Authoritarian, Materialist
Imperial
Aristocratic Elite, Cutthroat Politics
Humanoid city, Avian ship

Soft_member
Soft_member

But Avian ships are ugly.

Evilember
Evilember

Plantoid ships, arthropoid buildings.

Replace Imperial with Dictatorship.

Wasteful fits, but it's a bummer.

Methshot
Methshot

Materialist
Horatio pops in ES2 actually have Anti-Scientific trait that halves Scientist party popularity gains. The out of date official wiki also lists Horatio as Religious, which is probably leftover from early access or something. Wouldn't God Emperor Horatio be more fitting, and if you get Chosen One you'll have an immortal leader as well?

Techpill
Techpill

Horatio was made ecologist, but he now has special ecologist laws and shit that encourage Horatio purification instead of race diversity.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Here we run into the problem inherent in stellaris ethics, they're really shit at representing what they're actually supposed to represent.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What's the name of Horatio's homeworld? His home system?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Horatio Prime is the home planet, and systems have random names unless it's something like Traitor's Reach or Incandescence.

Snarelure
Snarelure

The Riftborn just want to go home though.

TechHater
TechHater

Their home is completely fucked. In the one quest line they have trying to enter it all of the riftborn sent over either go braindead or kill themselves.

happy_sad
happy_sad

What I miss the most is being able to assign ships as rally points for newly built ships

why did they had to take that away It had nothing to do with old FTL or old empire borders

TreeEater
TreeEater

Isn't Horatio Prime also the name of the ruler?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

The carrier is fine , but the light version shouldn't exist , same with the battlecruiser and arguably the strike cruiser

Bigger ships are ok , it really shines if you use extra ship components mods for more deadly strike craft

takes2long
takes2long

Uh no, you fucking disgrace. That's Real Horatio.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

The different Horatio AI players are all named some form of 'The Legit Horatio'
All the others are fakes.
They're probably ALL fakes but nobody knows that.
Best faction.

girlDog
girlDog

Oh, sorry. No disrespect meant.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

The Horatio are actually one of the more fascinating science-fiction 'species' I've ever read about. They're like a hive-mind of individuals determined to remake the entire galaxy in their own image, and to take the best aspects of that galaxy into themselves.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

their home is permanently ruined
the Endless universe drives them mad with sensation to the point that they have to sterilize planets to have even an iota of peace
people still want to bully them

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Booteefool
Booteefool

They don't just build huge space stations or Dyson Spheres

Evilember
Evilember

Is it just me or races in ES2 are really underwhelming compared to other endless games?
Both in EL and es1 the variety seemed to be wider, in both of these games I found one race that fit me the most and I would never grow bored of them, meanwhile in es2 I'm just jumping between most of them and can't really stick to any of them

takes2long
takes2long

They still have to cope with their robotic bodies. They were floating geometrical shapes before they crossed over.

Methshot
Methshot

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Syncretic Evolution Fanatic Authoritarian is the strongest build in the game, yeah?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Perfection.

Methshot
Methshot

Gosh, how am I supposed to defeat that?

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Emberburn
Emberburn

Horatio really let himself go.

Emberfire
Emberfire

over four fucking centuries in the game and your research looks like that

TreeEater
TreeEater

In the grim darkness of the 26th Century...

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It's just you

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

so is stellaris an unmanageable clusterfuck or does it just look that way?

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'd fight Chaos to cuddle that Commissar.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

It just needs more content. It needs some sort of interesting peace time gameplay that keeps the game from being a 100% war game.

Playboyize
Playboyize

no i mean like managing 17 fleets and 45 star systems how the fuck is that possible

Methshot
Methshot

I have 354.5 fleet power about to jump into Aslund to destroy Sterilization Hub 004. I hope it's enough to not take horrendous losses. This is only the first Sterilization Hub I will have destroyed and to build up this fleet I've had to let a full half of the galaxy burn.

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

By the Empress, that was painful.

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Methnerd
Methnerd

Stellaris question: How do I make my custom portraits look right? I've managed to put them in but the top tends to get cut off and I'd like to have them further to the right. Pic unrelated, probably.

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Most of those star systems would be sectors governed by ai governors.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Consensus on the Unfallen?

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Civilization taught me never to trust those or automate workers

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

What 4x games handle the "tall" playstyle the best? Why?

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viagrandad
viagrandad

gas the trees

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You'd be right not to, Stellaris' AI is horrendous. At this point it's only good for bypassing the core system limit (since somehow a governor can handle several times more star systems than your central government can), but you still need to go in every now and then and clean up after the AI by doing all the construction yourself, unless you're fine with getting only a quarter of the resources you should be getting.
In short, no, Stellaris is not worth even a quarter of its current price. Play something else.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Ones with a deep and complex enough politics and economy mechanics to allow for a small empire to capitalize on advantage and become a major power through their relations and deals with other empires.
That is to say, none that I know of.

farquit
farquit

Bass Clarinet/10

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Can they do maintenance/repairs?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Find primitive civilization next to home system
They have the same name as my species but are different
Immediately after surveying the rest of the system, pirates spawn on top of my science ship and destroy it

Guys, why is Stellaris so good?

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massdebater
massdebater

Did you
by any chance
use a preset species name

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Yes, I found one I liked that had a matching homeworld and star name that I took because I'm an unoriginal autist but that shouldn't mean anything. Each species type has their own random names but out of every one of those mine gets chosen because reasons.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

veekyforums.com/thread/209921719/video-games
they're INSULTING us

Skullbone
Skullbone

"robots are taking our jobs!" the questline

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

literally who?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Bonuses to tangible resource generation enhanced by a Fanatic Authoritarian Caste System.
Materialist, so you can activate Academic Privileges for decadently brilliant Horatio.
Materialist, so robotic technologies are weighed in your favor, allowing you to settle worlds you couldn't normally colonize with droids.
Charismatic, so other empires will be more willing to open Migration Treaties with you, filling in your droid-colonized worlds.
Go with Biological Ascension and you can give all of your pops, Horatio and otherwise, the same traits.
While you're at it, rename your xeno pops "Horatio."
Take Mastery of Nature and World Shaper to make larger Gaia Worlds.

Beautify the galaxy one planet at a time!

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Missing a green text.

I have made something imperfect.

Lunatick
Lunatick

you know what to do

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Can anyone recommend a city builder similar to settlers: roae?
Preferably more complex though.

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TechHater
TechHater

The ANNO series?

ANNO 140, aka Dawn of Discovery is the closest to that timeframe.

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

two
weak. true 56%s carry at least one thousand races in their DNA

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Who was in the wrong here?

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The Mezari for creating this.

TreeEater
TreeEater

THAT'S A SPICY MEAT-A-BALL

viagrandad
viagrandad

Would this strategy work?

Booteefool
Booteefool

The Italian Horatio. He probably has ties to the Four Families.

Techpill
Techpill

Horatio

likme
likme

spiders

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

multiplayer

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Robot crisis fleets have shields and armor ?
So Worms have just a shit ton of armor and hull
Inter- Aaayys have all shields no armor

but these things get both and don't even drop special weapons

why

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TreeEater
TreeEater

mezari did nothing wrong

Booteefool
Booteefool

For votes its 750 vs 970 last time i checked.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

that few actual votes

Soft_member
Soft_member

thanks but I didn't mean the timeframe, more along the lines of the same scale and the lack of hard grids.
I want to build something pretty.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Fun fact: even if all the spiderfags would have voted for parasite the wraithfags would only need 9 votes to reach majority once again.

Illusionz
Illusionz

That's the power of g2g points.

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

good2goy points?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

forgot pic

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Soft_member
Soft_member

Parasite was a worthy contender, but I want to see Amplitude work their magic with an incorporeal species. But even if Wraith dies, Parasite is a better option than Arachnid, we've already had bugs twice in Endless so far.

Spamalot
Spamalot

I think this is the only vote they've had that wasn't a total landslide

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Fuck, I wanted parasite.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

wraith
We stargate now?

Skullbone
Skullbone

No, parasite didn't win the vote.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Amplitude rigged the vote.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Mods just don't fix any of Stellaris' problems, do they

Soft_member
Soft_member

Mods can't fix a fundamental problem, they can only polish the turd.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Putting tape on a cracked window keeps it from falling apart, but it's still broken.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

A suspicious lack of garbage.

whereismyname
whereismyname

You might wanna look closer user.

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FastChef
FastChef

Took me a sec

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I wonder what Horatio society is like. How much variance in personality is there between Horatio, for example?

takes2long
takes2long

Any variation would be a deviation from perfection, you filthy subhoratio.

askme
askme

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

the horatio sauce-a
it's-a too a-spicy

takes2long
takes2long

Fucking manlets. Will they ever learn?

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whereismyname
whereismyname

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SniperWish
SniperWish

a society made out of clones from a single individual
has a parliament

Nojokur
Nojokur

has a faggot art noveau background and everything

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I'm glad you approve, user.

Snarelure
Snarelure

That's exactly why Horatio designed the clones to be somewhat imperfect - he wouldn't be able to run an empire if every single Horatio wanted to be the emperor. His ships are named after the classes of clones, the less imperfections from True Horatio the higher their class.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

will sellarisgeneral finaly die?

idontknow
idontknow

The dark yuro times are coming. As americans lay down to sleep those evil creatures emerge.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

DAILY REMINDER: JOIN THE EMPIRE TODAY!

TOGETHER WE CAN DO IT!
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY!

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Evilember
Evilember

ZELEVAS
E
L
E
V
A
S

DeathDog
DeathDog

Can you cheese a easy genocide by declaring war with a faction and have your alliance murder them for you in endless space 1?

Lunatick
Lunatick

I don't know

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Only vicky II but that is not a 4x. They all try but the all get industrialization wrong.

girlDog
girlDog

implying our glorious empire promotes ignorance
You filthy xenos spy.

Booteefool
Booteefool

How can paradox even compare? Has Stellaris won any award?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

game awards are fucking worthless in this day and age

hairygrape
hairygrape

What's the chance of getting my cute snowy bat guys in es2?
Is it even worth hoping now since vaulters are in the game?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

0%

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

;^,(

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

our powers combined

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Inmate
Inmate

stellaris won this award

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Anyone can share the 2.0.2 beta so I can update my stellaris client at work?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Why aren't you playing the latest Battlefield right now?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

because i don't like shooters you fag

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

because he's playing pubg

Illusionz
Illusionz

Obviously you do, because apparently "how many people play a game" is the highest qualifier for you.
So go back to playing [insert most currently popular game] right here. Dota and PUBG and Fortnite are top shit right now, they're real quality shit for ya.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

pubg more like casualbg

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

too much salt over stellaris being the better, more popular game

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Each year, 44,965 Americans die by suicide
So why aren't you killing yourself?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

the gardener was the murderer all along

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

More players can be a sign of popularity it usually isn't a good indication of quality.

Don't make this place as bad as gsg, be happy people play and like different games, if they didn't this place would still be dead.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

You're not answering the question. 45k Americans are playing the "be an hero" game, yet you're not playing it.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Is there a recommended list of mods for Stellaris out there?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

the face of Endless fags right now

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whereismyname
whereismyname

vanilla stellaris still doesn't have planet-wide cities, dome colonies, asteroid colonies, bioweapons, diseases, forcefields, planet-mounted weapons,

RavySnake
RavySnake

Doesn't it have diseases in the form of shitty planet modifiers?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You're already playing Stellaris, it can't get worse.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I've never seen that happen playing vanilla.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

What "be a hero" game?

TreeEater
TreeEater

No, it's an hero.

TechHater
TechHater

more like pube gee, amirite?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

More like "hurr durr twitch is playing that so i must follow".

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

go play pubg

girlDog
girlDog

Is it garbage like ES2?

Snarelure
Snarelure

it has the most players so it is objectively the best game according to you

Supergrass
Supergrass

i guess i could give it a try

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

go jump off a cliff too, it's pretty popular so you're missing out

Emberfire
Emberfire

go play pubg

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Supergrass
Supergrass

can't be a worse fate than being stuck with Amplitude's second failed attempt at making a space game

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Happiness might be a bit OP. My empire entered a golden age once I uplifted an overly happy species and doubled my shit across the board.

likme
likme

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

still responding to the anti-ES2 faggot
It's like Simcity 5 all over again.
In fact, I bet it's the exact same faggot.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Man, i miss SC5 shitposting.

StonedTime
StonedTime

i miss shitposting.

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FastChef
FastChef

17k players playing civ 5
14k player playing civ 6
7k players playing stellaris
300 galactic civ III
110 endless space 2

What went wrong bros?

Skullbone
Skullbone

exhaust faggot so much out of his arguments that he can't do anything other than reply with a shitty wojak meme

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

you never had an argument in the first place besides "it's popular so it's good"

Playboyize
Playboyize

Simple. Stellaris is babby's first 4X. They don't have the experience to see how bad it is.

cum2soon
cum2soon

meant to reply to

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

110 endless space 2
What? The lowest point is at 600 something.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

the masses going for the pleb tier choice
connaisseurs going for the patrician choice

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Imagine having this bad taste.
Fucking Virtual Endless are already wraiths. What the fuck is the point of wraiths2?
Parasites are better than wraiths even if wraiths weren't already in the setting.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Games have their niches. But some games, like ES2, are so bad only a few select people can stand to play it

Evilember
Evilember

shh

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Booteefool
Booteefool

bigger galaxies
map modes
ui overhaul
armageddon bombardment for fanatic militarist/xenophobe
multiple crises

Are the most substantial mods I use.
The rest are color and ship variations and shit and nothing that impacts the gameplay

JunkTop
JunkTop

then your taste is shit

Soft_member
Soft_member

shit taste for not liking dude bro FPS
normie pls

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Give me 3 reasons you're not voting for parasite instead of wraith.

Techpill
Techpill

Is stellaris, dare I say, the dudebro strategy game? After all it's balanced for multiplayer and entirely devoid of what makes its competitors enjoyable in a single player environment.

Nojokur
Nojokur

but it's popular

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

No, that'd be Dota. Literally the death of RTS and strategy games, just like modern shooters are the death of the shooter genre.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

dota
strategy
In the same vein that cowadoody is strategy, sure I guess.

RumChicken
RumChicken

In the same way that Stellaris is a 4x.
It fails at everything in the 4x genre, and is a shitty strategy to boot. So just like Dota is a strategy.

Emberfire
Emberfire

What does it even mean? That it's basically a background and real enjoyment is in talking with people or doing something else?

cum2soon
cum2soon

read up on endless space wiki
DUDE NANOMACHINES LMAO

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Dust has been nanomachines since day 1

iluvmen
iluvmen

The Endless and the concept of Dust are the most boring things in the setting.
Everything they enable are good though.

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