/dbfzg/ - Dragon Ball FighterZ General

Booteefool
Booteefool

Bardock and Broly DLC update is now live!
Bardock breakdown youtube.com/watch?v=CCQwP4_eYeA
Broly breakdown youtube.com/watch?v=bvnpzHoFEJk

No balance changes or patch incoming yet:
twitter.com/BandaiNamcoUS/status/978687181010083843

Resources pastebin.com/Q9eDXF2j

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RavySnake
RavySnake

First for /bestboy/!

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

broly can just do his 214m after you block literally any of his normals and you can't mash out, you just gotta jump

Emberburn
Emberburn

Broly combos where?

Please help I quit the game like 8 days in and don't know how to play characters that can't do the super standard low medium launcher

Booteefool
Booteefool

tfw a lot of ranked games feel 2v3 since dumb cat feels like dead weight 99% of the time or the most efficient steamroller in the world.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

B-But my e-celeb says Broly has no damage!
No sparking, no assist TOD
twitter.com/hen6248/status/978964572290793472

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Emberburn
Emberburn

5LL > 5M > 2M > 236S > 5M > 5SSSSS > 236L > 214H+S > Dragon Rush > 214L, jab or any assist with good range will cover literally any tech and if the opponent can't guess the mixup he fucking dies

farquit
farquit

MY POWER IS RISING, IT'S OVERFLOWING

*gets 3k damage in the corner*

Auto combo glitch
Full meter

Oh wow

farquit
farquit

glitch
proof? do you even know how hit stun works in this game?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

auto combo glitch

literally every other 5LL works the same way

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

twitter.com/Bookofreeds/status/979058747061493761

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

5LL prorating damage like a Medium combo starter is not a glitch. It's a universal effect across all characters' 5LL attacks.
The only character who has a "unique" (fucked up) Light that causes Medium damage proration is Adult Gohan's crouching Light.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

this is the power of maximillian d00d dickriders, he can just say stupid shit and his fans will spread that shit around like a bunch of pigs

Evilember
Evilember

Medium combo starters don't scale that way.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

irrelevant, it's been known since before the recent patch that fixed a bunch of bugs and it's still in the game

JunkTop
JunkTop

Who are some good teammates for Broly? Doesn't matter who, I'm looking to learn new characters

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

that strange... buu thought buu would lose

DeathDog
DeathDog

For maximum damage output, characters with single hit supers

Booteefool
Booteefool

They are sickening. And the sad part is the guy just wants to talk about games and these autists spam every single syllable he utters. How do people like this exist?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

That's pretty cool but it only seems to work in the corner

That's super specific

I'm looking for something I can just throw around, something basic bnb

SniperGod
SniperGod

how the fuck do i play against broly? I have no idea how to approach because I'm under the assumption he can just armor through everything

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Tien counters Broly like tissue.
Change my mind.

cum2soon
cum2soon

wasn't it only max saying that? I was watching him last night and even he started to back track on his opinion.

Emberburn
Emberburn

what specifically about tien?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Has the game been crashing for any of you recently? It's been doing it for me since the update. Bloody annoying.

Supergrass
Supergrass

yes, he talks candidly about the things he thinks and casually, as if you were having a conversation with the buddy sitting next to you. and then his army of autists broadcast that shit like some presidential statement. its disgusting.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

You sure do know a lot about some twitch fag. If he said that, then he's right like anyone who took half a minute to punch a dummy in training. Shut up you morons.
Yes they do.
A 5L starter will reduce damage of the second hit to 80%
Any jump-in attack or a Superdash to start reduces damage of the second hit to 80%
Any generic ki blast or projectile will reduce the second attack to 80%
A 5LL starter will reduce damage of the second hit to 90%
A 5M starter will reduce damage of the second hit to 90%
A 5H starter will also reduce damage to 90% but you're usually going to follow it with a superdash which also reduces the third hit to 80%

5mileys
5mileys

Broly's spin to IAD j. H will cover literally any tech (forcing you to eat any mixup he has in place) and eats through down tech 2H as most would expect.

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I'm to lazyto find it out on myself, so post cool bardock shit.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Auto combo glitch
Are you still posting this garbage you absolute retard? I already told you a million times that 5L(whiff)>L is treated as a medium hit in terms of damage and scaling. Quit spreading misinformation you complete moron. Kill yourself.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

test against invincibles, too
Bardock has his level 1

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Playing against Vegeta assist
Getting really, really, really tired of this.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

h-heh... yes... post some please....
n-not because I can't find it myself, but because I just wanna see what o-other p-people are doing.... that's it.....

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JunkTop
JunkTop

What

cum2soon
cum2soon

interesting fact, Broly's 5M and 2M has a 80% scaling on second hit

happy_sad
happy_sad

Explain further

MPmaster
MPmaster

we marvel now?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Bardock counts as small?

He can jab between Gohan's legs

iluvmen
iluvmen

what's that crazy Bardock corner combo? I can't figure it out on my own ;_;

girlDog
girlDog

I can do a subptimal combo that leads to a meterless dragonrush!

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

he can even 2H

Supergrass
Supergrass

Got my first ragequit.
Do i get a medal now?

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idontknow
idontknow

not until you screenshot it during a level 3

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

you get a cookie

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

What's the like, average player skill and rank here?

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RavySnake
RavySnake

alright i'll fucking buy the season pass on steam, this game better not die on me before i get to play cooler

Inmate
Inmate

Living Legend, Pink Squares, 1.5 million BP

farquit
farquit

More like Green Super Saiyan lol

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

More like Baby Blue just like Vegeta.

Playboyize
Playboyize

i am freiza clan 200k bp, dark green square, 47% WR. i imagine my skill level is the most common.

Techpill
Techpill

Saved is as a video instead of a screenshot.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

I don't know the rest.
450BP Kai, Yellow square for me.
I have a few games only, 180 games with 70% winrate.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I'm guessing that yellow is the average

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

depends, the people actually looking for fights are around yellow-orange usually.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

manlets

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Implying a character if 90% super armor is bad

Reminder that a kid went to EVO with Sentinel/Hulk/Wesker and all he had to do was super armor through everything

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WebTool
WebTool

go training mode
combos crisp as fuck
go actual match
spill all my spaghetti all over the chair
can't land the most basic shit
heart beating at least 150bpm
hands shaking
end up just mashing 90% of the time
can't remember a single match I've ever played because it's just a blur of fear and adrenaline

Fuck fighting games

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Bardock & Frieza have so much fucking combo synergy together with their assists. True OTP

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Bless the people who decided the DLC together will only be 5$ more than the season pass.

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RumChicken
RumChicken

Saibaman
Red Square
0/0
0 BP

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WebTool
WebTool

Wow this is a very epic post

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Take a screenshot of the video?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Broly is actually shit

JunkTop
JunkTop

Same bro

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Practice super duper optimal combos
Never pull any of it off
Opt to do simple basic strings that barely go over 3500 damage
Opponent is a Cell Gohan Vegeta Assist who have their lame 6K damage corner loops down perfectly and use Vegeta at every opportunity
Still beat them with the most basic of fundamentals because they didn't bother to learn shit except memorizing a button sequence
Halfway up Majin Rank
Fuck yeah fighting games

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

390k SSJ2, yellow, at around 155 matches. Haven't played casual nearly as much as ranked.

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Yeah I dont like him. Which is ok since I think broly a shit.
Bardock is dope as fuck though

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

He is, but I'm gonna play him eitherways just for style.
Literally this.
Gonna reach Demon soon by doing the same.
Those niggas and their shitty loops lmao matchamking pairs me with fucking 1k+games retards and I beat them with my meme team at sub 200 games.
Just sad.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Buying a season pass always feels weird to me because you're not gonna use half these fucks anyways.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

750k bp, 73% wr

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Skullbone
Skullbone

I got some time before nightshift, any ps4 anons wanna throw up a ring match and practice DLC characters?
us west 1
meeting lobby 6
infront of the arena
pink hercule avatar
mrbadman
Im going to be playing lots of bardock but probably not touch Broly

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Emberburn
Emberburn

compared to 16, broly has

Bigger normals
Better armor
Better ground grabs outside of the hard knockdown (which he shouldn't have)
Better projectiles
A bigger anti air grab (abit with worse combo potential)
The delay version of his level 3 is insane, it's a better version of the beta hellzone grenade mixups in every way AND he can use it in combos to dump all his meter and shit out 8-10k damage combos
A better assist

Snarelure
Snarelure

My suffering is not epic fuck you

can't even do super basic strings online
melt into a puddle of stress and press light attack a lot
50 hours clocked so far

JunkTop
JunkTop

I didn't even know that was a thing. Thanks.

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

There we go.You're around my rank. Wanna play some matches. need to play some bardock.

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takes2long
takes2long

Soon

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

A better assist

you sure about that? 16's assist is extremely good

Playboyize
Playboyize

If you're on pc sure, I don't have multiple ps4 to mooch off anymore

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Billsfag here I'll fight you another time, gotta study for my promotion/exam for work. Big test tomorrow.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

how do i get better?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

body swap with A. Gohan when they're about to go through their string
they have no idea what to do with their new low tier body

No matter how many matches I lose I will never drop Ginyu

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RavySnake
RavySnake

Ah fuck, Nvm I'm on PS4.

idontknow
idontknow

all 16's assist is good for is combos or point blank pressure. broly assist is almost as good for combos (in some cases it's better because of the projectile hit) and the projectile itself can't be dashed through and is at the perfect speed for a fireball to have in a game like this (slow up close to keep pressure going, fast at a distance to shut down the other player)

for example, sonicfox loves to do random dive kicks as black and then call 16 assist to convert into combo/pressure. you can do the exact same shit with broly assist and get a combo almost as good while also having an assist that makes his beam/god slicer way better

happy_sad
happy_sad

when you lose, think about what you did that made you lose and try to think about what you could've done to avoid it

for example if you're getting owned in the corner, think about what you did that made you end up there in the first place.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Crossplay when ;_;

happy_sad
happy_sad

Come fight me. Mrbadman

Lunatick
Lunatick

we have to keep demanding it
every day
every where
we cant let sony get away with blocking this shit from the industry

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Who's the one character that has your number every single time?

For me it's Adult Gohan. He always gets me. I can handle Black and Cell just fine. Even 16 isn't that bad anymore. But I just die every time I fight a decent Adulthan player.

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Black and Gohan, mostly.
16 and cell are manageable.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Blue Goku apparently. This dude hit me with the 5LLL every single time he switched other character in and killed them. I could deal with his gohan a bit though since I just started jumping. He couldn't land back attacks after that.

cum2soon
cum2soon

So how do you activate the dramatic finish as Frieza defeating Bardock? On Space and finish with H? Finished a Bardock with H and it didn't happen but maybe it's because I tagged him with the rocks at a range instead of trapping him at close range?

Flameblow
Flameblow

If there's something you find that you don't know how to do, attempt to learn how to do that thing

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

32-0 in Ranked today alone
Everyone's running Bardock, Broly, or both
No one knows what to do with them
Literally turns the match into a 3v2 or 3v1 before intros even play
So free right now

TreeEater
TreeEater

Rank?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

FighterZ Rev II has fusion as a mechanic instead of dragon balls

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Methnerd
Methnerd

How the fuck do you continue the dragon rush on the ground with 214L

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

haha what an idiot he only learned combos and not neutral

HOW DO I LEARN NEUTRAL NO EVER ANSWERS

I TRY TO MAKE SHIT WHIFF BY CONTROLLING SPACE BUT I JUST GET RUSHED DOWN TO DEATH AFTER A SINGLE MISTAKE

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Who cares I want to fight strong guys. I'm demon pink square but stopped playing ranked after getting the trophy.

Spamalot
Spamalot

if yamcha does WFF then switches sides can't you just jump?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Just L and you'll get a free combo.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I'll add you later. And same. It's the only reason I got to higher ranks , So I could play other high ranks.
Fuck Nakkiel, Chris G Tatsunical.
They like to beat my ass if i ever play them

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

experience.
if you have no experience in other fighters, it will take you longer.
learn to identify your turn and their turn, your advantage and their advantage.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Is it just me or can you not diag jump right off the down hard air for Goku black anymore? It didn't seem to cancel the down hard air move or jump at all just drops it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

MrBadman isnt my psn name though. I wish. Its something from when I was 15 and retarded

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I getchu. A lot of people have shit they named when they were kids and sticked with it since it already had their shit and would be a pain to make all new shit

viagrandad
viagrandad

now i know you're all gonna get mad but im hoping there might be someone else like me here so im gonna ask.. do u get banned for using a macro in dbfz? i used macros to learn hard combos in tekken that i couldnt figure out how to do but when using a macro it helps you see the timing of inputs very well, was thinking of doing the same for gohan loops

Soft_member
Soft_member

Nobody can tell you. Either you can assess situations properly and anticipate and react accordingly, or you're a retard.

Soft_member
Soft_member

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TechHater
TechHater

But keep an eye on these threads. Im always in here looking for good fight.

In an unrelated note does anyone have any bardock jank yet? I found a wallbounce hkd combo using his 214M but thats it so far. This rando used a 236L or H in the air to bounce me off the floor and into his lvl 3 but I havent figured it out yet.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Gotcha.
I dont know I've found some rather normal combos with him. just average like 3 or 4 k damage

TreeEater
TreeEater

Its 2 pm and broly and bardock still arent available to play yet

Booteefool
Booteefool

They definitely are.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Have you went to the store and downloaded them or are you just expecting them to pop up?

FastChef
FastChef

Does 2H counter Vanish consistently? I keep mashing it against opponents but it doesn't work as well as it seems to work against me. Is it a distance thing or just some hard read stuff?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

mashing

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

You cant mash it. Press it as soon as you hear/see them vanish

Lunatick
Lunatick

2H takes a bit to become invincible, depending on what they canceled into vanish/how far away they are mashing will work or it won't.

Bidwell
Bidwell

why isnt rage quitting punished in this game yet?

likme
likme

Yeah it was just to check whether it's the timing or not

Lunatick
Lunatick

It is. I assume purple named players never get matches.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I have the season pass, i got them each from the store, i closed my game, i turned off the ps4, i unistalled/installed the game, and im basically out of ideas. My only conclusion is that california doesnt have access to it or someshit

King_Martha
King_Martha

It has some air invincibility, but you get a shit ton of time to react, plus in some cases you should already have a read, also it does depend on the characters 2H hitbox, search how they are for your team

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

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5mileys
5mileys

The ps store tells me they are installed, my system storage says differently

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Your stress is due to thinking ranked matters or that you're being judged by your opponents, but hey, it doesn't and they're not (and even if they were who cares)
Just keep playing, really. I still get the shakes for the first couple of ranked matches for the day, but it goes away after that.
Put some faith in matchmaking, your opponents will most of the time be at your level, so don't do them a disservice and play your best.

DeathDog
DeathDog

What if my friend comes over and wants to play them?

Skullbone
Skullbone

I feel like such an idiot! I can't combo into a super after the leg grab! I've never done it before!

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

My form varies too much day to day for matchmaking to matter really

One day I go 30-0, the next I go 0-30

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Gohan's level 3 also gives him a free follow up in the corner

lmao why not

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

All level 3's do

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Every single character's level 3 does that

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Should I be able to punish super dash on reaction if they use it in a blockstring? My reflexes are shit

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

startup is 20 frames, which is possible but tough (that's faster than the universal overhead, how well can you react against that?)

Playboyize
Playboyize

what was Arcsys actually thinking

what kind of game has you eat a 70% plus combo and then go right back into corner pressure

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Not an issue

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Reaction online, probably not consistently. But you can punish it, and it's usually easy enough to anticipate.
If their character does a 2H that lifts them off the ground, 9/10 they're probably going to Superdash or Vanish to try and salvage it (unless they have some better move like a Light divekick that can come out fast enough to stuff a 2H). Both easily punishable with a 2H.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Just hit them with a 70% plus combo into hard knockdown first.

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cum2soon
cum2soon

The real issue is that you fucks just spent $100 on a fighting game that will either be dead or have a sequel in a year.
When every other game in the genre retails for half that price and has twice the lifespan as an arcsys game, then you're getting milked.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

tfw 3 straight wins after losing 2

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Stay mad for no reason

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

16 in a nutshell.

happy_sad
happy_sad

no reason
I'm mad because I got milked too.
You can be mad, milked, and still enjoy the game.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is $100 a lot of money to you?

King_Martha
King_Martha

opponent takes out two of your characters with some lucky hits into long bullshit vegeta assist extended combos and corner pressure while you barely gave them a scratch
Wipe out their entire team using only your last guy
Thanks Lord Frieza. You and your rocks saved the day again.

Firespawn
Firespawn

So is the Broly leg grab into another super mandatory? Because I just can't get the timing down.

FastChef
FastChef

considering you have 3 characters to work with and blue health, it doesn’t matter

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Broly's walk makes me erect

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Evilember
Evilember

The screen should shake for every step

whereismyname
whereismyname

Neutral comes from understanding the ins and outs of every character, both the ones you use and those of the opponent, how each matchup fares and how to approach them with your guys. Once you know the abilities and limits of your opponent('s characters) you more or less know how to defend against them, and through that comes knowing where their openings are for you to counterattack and exploit.
It's something only gained through experience.

The best others can do is give you very specific tips about certain scenarios. That and you find a buddy willing to train with for hours. Instead of fighting each other, both of you work on a facet of the fight, like each of you take turns only defending against and breaking out of a character's block pressure. Get a Vegeta to your Goku, except without the angry manlet part.

RavySnake
RavySnake

So guys... bardock can go from his punching lvl 1 directly into his ki blast level 1.... this is awesome. Rip yamcha

Emberburn
Emberburn

post timestamp i'll try to lab it

Soft_member
Soft_member

bardock's 214 is an overhead

how long will it take people to learn this?

Emberfire
Emberfire

The real issue is that you fucks just spent $100 on a fighting game that will either be dead or have a sequel in a year

I spend $100 on a night out why the fuck is spending $100 on a fighting game that'll bring me pleasure for a year an issue?

Emberburn
Emberburn

what was Arcsys actually thinking

That there aren't many consistent HKD situations in the game and having a universal option that costs resources and also scales heavily in combos was an acceptable solution?

You bitch now, but without them comebacks would be damn near impossible.

RavySnake
RavySnake

is there a reason why I have 0 blues black or beerus colors?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

So how do I deal with someone who just constantly rushes me down? I'm pretty confident in my ability to block high and low but when there's a moment for me to go on the offensive I just crumble. Is it just practice?
Also fuck adult Gohan this shit is stupid.

Bidwell
Bidwell

The look
The sound
All it needs is a screen rumble and no amount of buckets could contain all my cum

likme
likme

I spend $100 on a night out why the fuck is spending $100 on a fighting game that'll bring me pleasure for a year an issue?

i agree with this user .

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Anyone on PC US want to play?

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Nojokur
Nojokur

Trying to break the muscle memory of using 2H in blockstrings because you're used to them connecting

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Methnerd
Methnerd

That's a really neat combo route. Broly being able to combo out of his Level 3 is really neat. I'm gonna practice a variation on this starting from the stomp as I call 16 assist to let me hitconfirm. Broly combo routes are some of the weirder ones in the game. Not Fat Buu weird but not conventional.

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whereismyname
whereismyname

Rush them down first or once your free rush them down and keep up the pressure.

SniperWish
SniperWish

It's like cell, only the last hit is so you have a ton of time to block it

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Just bought the game. What's the best way to get started?

Inmate
Inmate

i really like the game but playing against other people gives me terrible performance anxiety, what do?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Play more against other people

MPmaster
MPmaster

Is frieza as bad as i keep hearing?

iluvmen
iluvmen

In literally every instance of the stair combo is it better to do ML rather than LM???

girlDog
girlDog

Adult Gohan
You better believe I'm leaving after the first round against that shit, Win or Lose idk. Fuck this cancer

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Not really, he's solid mid tier. If his game plan suits you and if you put little work in him you can make him a solid slot. Plus the advantage of people not knowing the matchup so well gives you a little edge in most cases

Methshot
Methshot

I was actually just fucking around in training mode to try out various block strings, and I stumbled upon the same thing. You can end your block string with basically any of his armored specials, and the grab seems particularly effective.

Just gotta be careful, if the opponent reads it, you can eat an overhead.

I want to figure out how to get those hyper damage combos with his slow level 3. I know I've accidently gotten a 6.8k damage combo just doing it once, but it's difficult to consistently do because you can't see yourself at all lol.

hairygrape
hairygrape

shitter

askme
askme

how 2 fighting games without getting in a horrid fucking mood and screaming i'm so fucking bad and it hurts at the screen

Evilember
Evilember

Everybody in these threads play him.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I’m curious what /a/‘s DBS thread Gohanfags would think of A.Gohan in this game.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

How do you expect to learn how to play against him if you leave every time?

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Emberfire
Emberfire

What are you, poor?
Not an argument. $100 is half of what I tipped my garçon for today's brunch, and that's only because he spilled my drink on the way to my table. That doesn't magically make FighterZ a good deal, and it doesn't magically mean you didn't get milked.
There are dozens of other games that will last just as long or even longer as FighterZ and give you more play hours than it. Again, you can both enjoy a game and also realize you got milked; these facts aren't mutually exclusive.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I deadass just spent two hours making sure I have 16 w/ 3 assist and 3 bars 6k damage in corner and midscreen

and beerus corner 3 bars 6k

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

That's terrible damage if you use all that

5mileys
5mileys

There are dozens of other games that will last just as long or even longer as FighterZ
Please tell me which games these would be.
inb4 normienite

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I can do 5.6 with 16, two assists no meter into hard knockdown in the corner. With 3 bars I would hit much more with supers at the end.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

You can do your level 3 immediately after you let go of them, but for one bar your only option is half-circle forward assist super.

Flameblow
Flameblow

i can't stop ragequitting, i just get too angry and the alternative is to break something

at least i don't play ranked

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Frieza is excellent.
Contrary to everyone playing him wrong, Frieza is not a zoner, and he's not an anchor. He doesn't need meter to perform optimally, nor does he even need to rely on assists to get his plans in motion.
Frieza is a powerful point footsies character who has the tools to attack an opponent anywhere on the screen from anywhere on the screen, and fights ideally with the opponent just out of arm's reach. Just start with throwing rocks and raining Gotcha Balls from the sky all day.

Depends, lots of characters can only do MLL in two of the three instances due to height adjustment needed by autocombo tracking to keep them on point.
jMLL 2H Dash jMLL 2H jLLH is how I usually have to do it for those who have an air launcher like Blueku.
Others will be way off if you try even one ML, and some like Nappa only work when you do jMLL jMLL.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I dont

Supergrass
Supergrass

so you're that guy who ragequits in casual? wew

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I can only do 4.3k with assists no meter in corner.Where the fuck are you getting the extra damage from??

Bidwell
Bidwell

what's a good team with frieza and trunks?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Broly is so fucking bad. Like my God why did they think he was okay?

Methnerd
Methnerd

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Bardock

Inmate
Inmate

is iad always safe or does it have some frames where i cannot block?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Making a webm, stand by.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

i get hit when holding up back sometimes I have no idea what is wrong with this game

MPmaster
MPmaster

you jumped and got caught in the initial jump frames

hairygrape
hairygrape

He is legitimatelly Krillin tier but I'm gonna play him eitherways.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

upback is bad idea in this game because you cant block during prejump frames

iluvmen
iluvmen

Blueku, Hit or Yamcha
Each of them can make great use of both Freezypop and Trunks's assists in their attack/blockstrings.

King_Martha
King_Martha

what should I know to play frieza?

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cum2soon
cum2soon

Don't whilst Broly is still being played

TechHater
TechHater

Broly is hardly a threat to anyone

askme
askme

He can literally ignore your 2H/5H if he charges in

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

lol gohan players who expect not to get ragequit on are cute

Spamalot
Spamalot

So? What rank are you in where Freeza keeps you out with heavy spam?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

are you memeing or they actually work well together?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Angry man babies like you are not cute

likme
likme

buy season pass
game is fucking dead on eu except for tryhards

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

lol i'm not even that angry but why would they ever whine about it

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

tfw i can 1v3 with my boy trunks but i'm complete ass with my other characters

Illusionz
Illusionz

Well, Trunks works well enough for one of my corner combos with Bardock. Don't know about Freeza Or Bardock assist with Trunks

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Nobody said anything.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Bardock and Frieza unironically work well together. With Bardock as the active character, his Medium Rebellion Spear puts the opponent right in the zone of Frieza's distant Death Slash assist that you can continue to combo off of on the bounce.

Trunks works well with pretty much anybody, but given the very high speed of Bardock's Light Spear Assist, it helps jab the enemy while Trunks is doing his side crossing spinning mixup bullshit. And just like Frieza, Bardock's combos involving Rebellion Spear bouncing would benefit greatly from Change the Future Assist's big blast.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I hate the color system, I feel punished for playing casual sets against other pinks because I'll end up losing my square.

This is like if playing random skirmishes in Overwatch affected your MMR.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Are you on Steam? I could play a few before bed

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Sorry it took so long. You don't need vegeta, just any assist that can launch them up again. I've been using A. Gohan for this. You do need a beam for this to work though.

Also from around mid screen almost, you'll send them so far with that first airborne 5H that you are basically in the corner.

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Emberfire
Emberfire

I just don't like that his air throw flips your position. I keep on doing level 3's when I'm trying to learn it

Methshot
Methshot

If you're a true pink you'll get it back easy

w8t4u
w8t4u

this lmao, half the pinks in casuals are frauds who dont play ranked

RumChicken
RumChicken

holy shit me doing LL scaled the fuck out of that combo.....
I was doing the same thing except I did a second j.LM after the 2nd dunk and didn't do a superdash

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

when you dump every resource at your disposal into killing their point A.Gohan including level 1 sparking then dispatch the rest of their team without much trouble and then don't rematch because you don't want to deal with A.Gohan again

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whereismyname
whereismyname

tatsu still doesn't have it back.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

How many posts are you going to make about gohan? Consider stopping.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Literally this.
Black also applies.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

this is my first about A.Gohan specifically

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Yeah obviously that's the optimal starter which isn't always as realistic as other starters.

Also, after there is a couple of places where you can fit in another L during the air combos but I don't do it cuz it adds maybe 100-200 extra damage but I drop it a lot.

And I'm sure you know this leads into a hard knock down so you can use all of your cheeky mixups on them. Even though he's in the corner you can still cross him up which is absolutely fucking devilish.

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

we need fucking crossplay goddammit

i'm tired of always getting the short end of the stick cause i'm pc eu

eGremlin
eGremlin

Nigger tell me a lobby and p/w and I will be there within 3 minutes

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Hey 16

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Booteefool
Booteefool

Newbie here. First thing i should do in this game?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Combo challenges

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Make sure you ragequit against every single A.Gohan player.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

learn the universal bnb

2M 5M 9 j.5M 2H>H 5LML 9 5LLL

SniperGod
SniperGod

The only reason the online works the way it does in this game and that they got away it is because hardcore ASW/Doobers think they're samurai for dealing with all the issues.

Japanese companies could sadly learn a lot from Western companies like Blizzard.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

This doesn't apply to every character.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Japanese companies could sadly learn a lot from Western companies like Blizzard.
(you)

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

i don't see how he's wrong and i detest blizzard soy games.

DeathDog
DeathDog

His airthrow changing sides is just fine since his autocombo is built to swap sides too, meaning one into the other gets you the same side after all

it also helps with vanish, you no longer have to worry about teleporting behind someone in the corner and giving it up, which helps a character like broly who's 200% better in the corner

FastChef
FastChef

No company should EVER take notes from Blizzard.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

it applies to most in one way or another

iluvmen
iluvmen

Maybe this is why EU is dead :^)

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Only if they have a 2H that leaves the enemy in the air.
Broly and Frieza come to mind, neither of those have one.

FastChef
FastChef

How did they manage to launch Overwatch with a fairly little issue when ASW can't launch a game with half the playerbase while taking upwards of a month to properly fix it? I have to wait as long to get a game in this than I do in that piece of shit and you need 12 players there.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

yeah, those are exceptions, not the rule

but even in the case of broly, those jump cancels are still useful to already have built into muscle memory since they're the basis of almost all aerial combos

Methnerd
Methnerd

half the playerbase

user i think overwatch likely had 10 times the player this game did at it's peak

RavySnake
RavySnake

Oh, for sure, for sure.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

mfw pass is $30 in my country
mfw each character is $3.3

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

them launching legion almost flawlessly was some black magic shit though lol, but i guess they really invested a fuck ton of money into that after the disaster that was wod and it's launch.

SniperWish
SniperWish

overwatch had literally 5x this games budget and development schedule and is in a genre with servers where lots of people connect instead of peer 2 peer 1v1 connections

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Broly vs Fat Buu or Frieza
What the fuck do I do against this monster. Neither of my characters attack fast enough to break Broly's armor before he hits me.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I mean, they have a cult fanbase, like nintendo does.
People would it everything they release even if it's literal shit.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Because Overwatch is a piece of shit made for lowest common denominator trash while fighting games are not.

Overwatch is literally designed for people to pin the blame on anyone and anything other than themselves while fighting games are the absolute antithesis of this.

Lunatick
Lunatick

You switch to one of your other 2 characters

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

the point is they can launch something like that now with real problems, that's impressive regardless of how much you hate them.

Emberburn
Emberburn

My team is Broly, Frieza, Fat Buu
Broly vs Broly is weird, whoever attacks last gets through the armor.

whereismyname
whereismyname

they should make assist and changing two separeate keys

i fucking hate when i'm trying to call an assist while moving and it does a change instead

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

You're playing on some fucking basic level if that's the case

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I like this about fighting games but at the same time I feel the ranked / matchmaking in this one is a little too far on the other side of things, I rematch all my games but it's starting to really grind me down getting raped by a guy with 500k+ more BP and two squares above me 3 games in a row.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Oh, that is for granted, but that's more a product of marketing than being a good company.

This.
I recently discovered that aswell.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Haven't had the time to play since the DLC went live, can you DR through his armor?

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'll admit I'm pretty shit but Supreme Kai isn't *that* bad right?

SniperGod
SniperGod

don't rematch if the gap is that large, you'll get some flak for this for not trying to learn in the couple of minutes you're getting comboed but it's just going to make you hate the game.

i love this game but the matchmaking is honestly not acceptable at times.

happy_sad
happy_sad

True that, the matchmaking here sucks humongous dick.
I'm at 450kBP with 180 games and it pairs me with people over 1k games and 550kBP.
Even if my winrate is 70% and theirs 45% the skill level of somebody who has played 10 times more should always be greater no matter what.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Same. It's really annoying, especially for characters like fat buu that have to rush towards a character falling from a wall bounce and hit asisst before even pressing 2M because 4A/6A will immediately do a tag.

Nojokur
Nojokur

140k BP and counting climbing off based Broly/Bardock newbois

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Not him but as far as ranked goes, you can pretty much paddle ur way up to Demon by having a 50% WR, it's only when you hit SSJ3 is it you start losing comparable amounts of BP

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

My opponent doesn't let me land a 2M.

Screw this game. Completely broken.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

the only issue I have with tags is trying to do an assist and a qcf special at the same time, you have to slightly stagger them

everything else you can just hold 9 or 3 to avoid tagging while still moving forward

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

What do you mean?
On wakeup?
On blockstring?

Spamalot
Spamalot

They don't let me 2M on wake-up, not as a meaty, not in neutral, not in blockstrings, not when they jump in the air, not when they super dash, not when they vanish, not when they use raw supers... this game is broken. Screw ASW.

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Snarelure
Snarelure

Fuck it,

-PC EU BOYS-

Set up a lobby UK MEETING LOBBY 4

PASSWORD 9001 (XD)

Look for Policeman Krillin

SniperGod
SniperGod

What character are you using?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Forgot to add i'm sitting in the Practice Cloud, Bottom Left

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

i swear i am blocking these 6ms in time JESUS CHRIST

Techpill
Techpill

9001
damn dude you know how long it's been since I've seen that referenced? I completely forgot it was a DB thing, sheesh

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Goku/Vegeta/Trunks, doesn't matter who I use 2M as a starter never works. I'm always better off just using 5LL.

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askme
askme

Again, you can both enjoy a game and also realize you got milked; these facts aren't mutually exclusive.

Are all the DLC characters finished and on disc? If not, how exactly am I being milked?

When every other game in the genre retails for half that price and has twice the lifespan as an arcsys game, then you're getting milked.

Did SFV launch at a price lower than $60? Did SFIV not have DLC characters? Smash Wii U launched at $60 and had DLC as well. Don't know what Tekkan 7 launched at but it's $50 right now with a $25 season pass, a far cry from the "half price" you claim. Injustice 2 is a great deal at $60 for all the DLC, about the closest you can get to half of FighterZ + season pass. So why aren't you playing Injustice 2?

Flameblow
Flameblow

..use 2L.

2m as a start isn't realistic unless you're trying pad for damage in training mode

happy_sad
happy_sad

Thats because your opponent is usimg standing attacks which are faster than crouching attacks. You either need to vanish, block, or reflect their pressure

StonedTime
StonedTime

What're the frame differences between 2L and 2M?

idontknow
idontknow

Character specific.

Emberburn
Emberburn

i think i'm approaching the game with the wrong mindset

i'm not chill at all and even in casual i take everything too seriously and HATE the other playe,r constantly insulting him in my mind, instead of having fun

probably in the long run it will cause problems like burn out and rage episodes

TreeEater
TreeEater

depends. usually between 4-5 frames faster.

again starting with a 2m isnt always realistic

massdebater
massdebater

That only happens to me with Gohan and Black players.
The rest are fine and I actually say "damn, good one" out loud most of the time when I get bamboozled into a 60%hp combo.

Bidwell
Bidwell

at least you're recognizing it. just gotta remember that losing is your own fault and that you should be learning from your mistakes rather than getting mad. when you rage, it's almost like telling yourself not to improve since you're really blaming the other player typically.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Probably some underlying anger issues user.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I have ocd/anger issues and it makes playing fighting games a real struggle

tfw autism

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

May I ask what is your team and rank?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

16 and kid buu for me.
no one online can do agohan's leg loops anyway.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I get furious when someone suggests a character I dont want for dlc.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I would rather much lose to you guys than randoms. NA room when?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

tfw couldn't steal a DLC character with Ginyu

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Emperor Pilaf.

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Damn, that's sweet as fuck.
Shame I'm on EU

cum2soon
cum2soon

no one online can do agohan's leg loops anyway
This. This is why I dont hate Gohan yet. Dont hate 16 and Black either because at this point Ive fought them so much I know exactly what to do against them and if I let them do their jank than its on me as a player.

Inmate
Inmate

start one and Ill join

Emberfire
Emberfire

Platform? Thats because so far everyone whose fought has been super chill except for that one guy who sand bagged and sperged last thread over tiers.

Evilember
Evilember

see complicated combo
immediately say fuck it any keep doing my simple shit

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cum2soon
cum2soon

But still, it is SO easy for those 3 to start up a combo on you that it's ridiculous.
"Alright I'm blocking perfectly and he is far away from m- oh, that was a low I see"
"Ok, as long as I jump in ti-oh, the H got me, shit."
"Well lemme just vanis behind Black so I can start a co-oh, he hit me with 2H"

Techpill
Techpill

Play against Hit
Them: 5M
Me: Jump and punish
Them: 5M
Me: Jump and punish
Them: Dead
All Hit players are fucking retarded

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Yeah they do get stuff off really easy but I find if I respect Black and beat him in neutral without running into a 2H hes not different than fighting a good SS Goku player.
With 16 Im always watching for his armored heavies and always playing keep away in neutral. Only going in when i know I can combo off.
But whenever they hit me its like oh boy hold onto your butts. This is gonna take a while until I can get free!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

also describes yamcha

Bidwell
Bidwell

This is literally me

If I play fightan for too long I get so mad I get a headache that lasts the rest of the day

I really want to strangle the cunt of my opponent every game, I don't even get happy when I win

massdebater
massdebater

Indeed. No wonder the competitive is so defense focused considering that a single hit leads to a chain-combo for 50 to 70% hp depending on their meter.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Most are. Im alright with Hit. Not pro level good but I stuff almost every other Hit I face in mirrors. Hes got a lot of weird combos that people dont use because its not the standard bnb.
Yamcha is just awful. Thank god we have Bardock for a rush down character now.

girlDog
girlDog

I'm eating now. Sorry I didn't expect my food to be done.

PS4

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Fuck you, you stupid bitch. Fine I won't play with you.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

it's character dependent though right? cell and trunks and agohan have amazing 2ms for whiff punishment it looks to me.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Congrats, you're a scrub.

5mileys
5mileys

Is there any good resource for learning block strings?

I feel like my main issue is that when I have my opponent on the defensive I don't know how to keep up pressure, and when they have me on the defensive I have NO idea how to avoid eventually getting hit

Techpill
Techpill

sure, but cell also has a low 2l which means that's still your most likely starter, gohan's 5L is an incredible button too.

it's a pretty common mistake for players to not have offense if they can't hit 2Ms, see surprisingly often.

iluvmen
iluvmen

youtube/google guides and discords and watch top players.

Spamalot
Spamalot

?
I'm not the same user you were refering to

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

is broly bad? he doesnt feel very good, but he is fun.

Flameblow
Flameblow

i know im a scrub m8 i want to learn how not to be scrub ya feel me

StonedTime
StonedTime

He is probably the worst in this game now.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I'll give you some actual advice.
learn to spend more time looking at your opponents fighter than yours. You need to be comfterable with who your using and focused on the threat infront of yoy
get a feel for the movement in this game. From dashing, IAD, and the occasional superdash. But dont superdash too much because they will push your shit in with 2H
learn to use your assists to keep your opponent defensive and let you close in the gap
try and think while your fighting and watching your opponent "ok what would I do in his situation"
bote your opponents habits. He might have great pressure but doesnt use overheads. Or he might have really good combos but no defensive game.
most importantly learn from ever loss. Learn why you lost. Improve for the next fight.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I didn't mean to include both responses.
But Insulting people based on character choice just reeks of scrubbery. Train up.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I think that title still falls to Piccolo, Nappa, Yamcha, and Krillin. Too early to tell though, he might have some broken shit that we just need to figure out

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Did they change how Gohan's level 3 works? I keep getting him solo even though I have Goku on my team

happy_sad
happy_sad

Lol not while majin buu and nappa exist

Soft_member
Soft_member

all these anons sleeping on majin buu
Shiggy

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

S-Sorry

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

do you have gotenks on your team

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Sleeping on what? Le epic resets? He sucks
Jab that whiffs, non standard combo route that actually only works at point black range. Otherwise the 2S will miss.
Low damage
Lvl 1 that gives up any pressure and the corner.
Shit blockstrings since he is missing a conventional 5M.
Need I go on?

likme
likme

Is it me or Broly looks fat in this game?

farquit
farquit

Thanks for the games, Broly/21/Frieza

Your Broly is very obviously better than mine, it feels similar to mirror 16 fights, tiptoeing around the armor to try and get a hit in

Methshot
Methshot

That tends to happen when you're X-bawks hueg

FastChef
FastChef

weird ass hit boxes that'll trip you up if you arent careful
his airborne heavy attack
a level one that takes up the entire screen
attacks where he just grabs you and beats the shit out of you with a smile
his roll attack that no one respects until they run into it
a pretty damn good assist for stuffing overly aggressive opponents
Go on.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Yah I had a lotta fun. Not a big fan of mirror Broly fights. With how huge he is it just looks like one big clusterfuck on the screen.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Only in certain cinematics where morphing the character creates more impact, I'd imagine that looks fucking retarded from a different angle like pic related for Nappas 3 meter

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

No. I think it's because of Ginyu, I'm using him to steal Broly and Bardock in casuals

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I prefer this look for nappa

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Motherfucker looks like a pokemon, Kingler ass bald dude.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Oh also your Bardock was pretty gud. I was hoping we'd somehow trigger one of the Frieza/Bardock dramatic finishes but it wasn't meant to be.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I'll for sure host more lobbies if there's enough interest,

Apologies if the pink player trying his hardest to land Body Swap reads this, 19 Frame Delay and lag was pretty awful conditions

Here's two more, there's probably things like this for every character but I took these from a video using an unlocked camera to snoop around

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Bidwell
Bidwell

his airborne heavy attack
This is your only point. The rest is subjective and not even a factor.
attacks where he just grabs you and beats the shit out of you with a smile
That doesn't make him good.
Any assist will stuff someone running into it.
His hitboxes aren't weird, you just don't understand them it would seem.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Other I forgot

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WebTool
WebTool

In db which didn't take things as seriously, namekians could become giant the same as slug, plus piccolo can elongate arms so this wouldn't be too strange

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Except his assist is a big pink exosion right infront of him that hides your character and lets you set up shit while also pushing your opponent away. Hes a fun character. Im sorry you dont feel the same way.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

does anyone have any realistic broly combos?

JunkTop
JunkTop

LLLLLLLLLLL

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

If only Teen Gohan's limbs were always that big, he'd have some fucking reach.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

We can all agree that wake up lvl 3 is a good strategy when they're gorilla mashing on you, right?
Ok good

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

DLC just got released
"lol waifu for the general bro"
This is why only posting a pastebin was a mistake

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

trunks/cell/vegeta

should i replace the last one for bardock? I don't really like the manlet

JunkTop
JunkTop

in a Bo5 scenario you could probably get away with it TWICE until it becomes clearly obvious when you'll try

girlDog
girlDog

Unless they are sparking or have other guys at nearly full health that they cam switch out for.
Raw wakeup level 3 I find is only good of you're A.) Going to finish them off. B.) Ginyu or C.) Countering their lvl 3 with your own

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

is this loss?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

go see a doctor about your autism.
youre literally incoherent.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I got a doctor you can see. Take two of these a day and see me in the morning

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Thanks doc, this isn't posted nearly enough

Illusionz
Illusionz

Yamcha

What's wrong with the chad? He's a solid rushdown with good special, good level 1 and okay lvl 3.

takes2long
takes2long

Piccolo, Nappa, Ginyu, Krillin players

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SniperWish
SniperWish

Broly is sh-

youtube.com/watch?v=3DxDKZ_muGQ

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Piccolo is fucking GOOD

Nappa is ok paired with Tien

Ginyu is for memers and people trying that recoome shit

Krillin is used by pinks in casual to further rub sale in the wound

JunkTop
JunkTop

What tier is bardock?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Implying the pickle isn't good

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

ur mom tier

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Honestly I feel like he's Tier 1, his assist is fucking lightning fast and his neutral is strong as hell

hairygrape
hairygrape

i hope people keep thinking piccolo's awful i don't want them using him

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

His neutral is meh. His level 3 is held back by only being useable on the ground. His supers are meh. To reliant on hard knockdowns to do anything.
The only thing hes got going for him is speed and a nice crossup.
Fuck you ginyu is alpha as fuck.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Hey fuck you. PBR is a good beer.

Booteefool
Booteefool

When I win EVO with Ginyu, I'm going to make you suck my dick

StonedTime
StonedTime

6.9K and a hard knockdown starting from a single meter

God DAMN I love 21

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

implying Piccolo isn't the best DB(Z) character
Get a load o' this pleb

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

who called pleb patrol

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

only nappa and krillin are shit

piccolo and ginyu are unironically good

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I'm not super great at Fighterz, but Ginyu and Black seem to well with him.

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Krillin. Armour through everything then heal back up.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Can someone please help me with this.
I superdash someone, they block.
While in the air I hold down, Their anti air hits me.
While in the air I hold the direction away from them. Their anti air hits me
While in the air I hold down + direction away from them. Their anti air hits me.
This is seriously frustrating me. Am I just inputting the commands too slowly or do I have to air dash away from the opponent to get out of this safely?

eGremlin
eGremlin

A mod banned me for this
Why do mods hate fun ;_;

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w8t4u
w8t4u

double jump

whereismyname
whereismyname

Mods are sad individuals trying to feel some level of authority on here of all places.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Am sorry mods. I just wanted to post la doctura to bring joy to anonsm pls no bully
at least it was only a temporary 15 min ban

King_Martha
King_Martha

all he does all match is spam superdash nonstop

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Skullbone
Skullbone

be me
get matched against dark green
he never blocks
ever
go to game 2
win by just running into him with raw superdash and nothing else
no game 3

Bidwell
Bidwell

tfw shitty internet only lets me play with 19f of delay
tfw before i gave up with online i won every match by raw fullscreen superdash

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eGremlin
eGremlin

miss the tournament Hookganggod went to today and try to catch the vods
see the grandfinals with dekillsage vs Lordknight
asking myself who the hell he lost to
turns out he woke up too late and missed it

Well that was the funniest thing I've heard for the week.

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Inmate
Inmate

A character with good corner pressure/oki as a Mid for him to switch into once his tools are able to bully the opponent into the corner. Beyond that, an assist that can help him extend corner combos when he needs to, a pop-up or Vegeta will do. I'm liking 16 with him since that combined with stomp is either a safe way to start pressure or a full confirm.

Additionally, if it sounds interesting, pick a character with a fast Level 1 and learn how to extend Broly corner combos using a Z Change, as his is so slow that the character you're now controlling will have the ability to act after.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Alright lads, what are some bardock block strings and bnbs?

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

So, if Frieza is high enough in the air (definitely works for normal launchers. Might work for laser eye launches if you have better execution than me, or are calling someone with a super fast DHC animation) when you do lvl1, you can DHC early enough that you can - for some characters - SUPERDASH and continue the fucking combo.

It doesn't work with everyone but it works very, VERY well with Cell. You can get some truly disgusting extensions.

It also works in an interesting way with 21. I haven't managed any particularly long extensions, but you CAN steal a charge.

Definitely works with Bardock. His lvl 1 DHC is very fast. I'm sure there are plenty of others.

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Bidwell
Bidwell

today
what

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

krillin would be fine if his 2h hitbox wasnt so depressing

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Someone with good combos after superdash since its the easiest way to combo after his 236M lariat

viagrandad
viagrandad

I got a combo Ive been working on for Bardock. Im retarded so im gonna use ps4 buttons for some notations.

5L>2M>5M>j.c.>5L>5M>j.c>5L>5M>213-M>vanish>forward dash>2M>5M>j.c>5L>5M>236-L>236 R2>236 R1

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I should add you can also end in a level 3.
Using the lvl ones does about 5k dmg while a lvl 3 does around 5.5k but isnt really worth the extra bar of meter unless its going to ko

RumChicken
RumChicken

Broly is bad
Broly is low damage
This meme is going to end quick. His armor is insane.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Microsoft mixer tournament. Apparently he'll be at nlbc instead.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

i don't fucking understand neutral
like i do the same thing they do, i block and wait for them to stop then i attack, but they hit me anyway. And when i try the pressuring them they always hit me.
I don't get it

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Throw in some assists and beams

5mileys
5mileys

doesn't work
they block anyway and they hit me when i try to close the distance

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

The 236 R1 is just the followup super after saiyan spirit isnt it? Can't you just do that by pressing any button after that super?

3 bars also seems like a lot for only 5k damage.

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Booteefool
Booteefool

Who are the best characters to team with Broly?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Really dont think so

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Moron. Just give up then. Clearly the game is against you and is unfair.

Methshot
Methshot

I didn't day that you idiot, just that i don't understand how this works

Soft_member
Soft_member

Bardock and Vegeta. That's what everyone else is doing.

Inmate
Inmate

Nothing else outside of that box?

I was considering Black

Emberfire
Emberfire

just try it man they haven't even been out for a day everyone's still figuring things out

Emberburn
Emberburn

Why does Ranked give me the laggiest matches of all time even with the higest connection restrictions? Casual matches are just fine.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Broly can't hit his lvl 1 unless you are in the corner or a pixel away when you use it.
Also it's unsafe as fuck.
This is embarassing on ASW part how bad of a job they did with Broly.

TechHater
TechHater

any other blue square with a 0% win ratio here?

iluvmen
iluvmen

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happy_sad
happy_sad

Epic retort. Really came through with that one.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Bardock, Gohan and Broly are a solid team. Just got absolutely dominated by a pink.

farquit
farquit

Ugh

Methnerd
Methnerd

He's got insane damage in the corner, which would generally be a "well, duh" except that Broly's entire toolset is about constantly forcing the opponent into the corner. The fact that he can combo into his slow orb Level 3 and then combo afterwards without assists is crazy. PLUS he can combo from his Level 3 into a reset situation.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Broly's entire toolset is about constantly forcing the opponent into the corner.
Yep. Especially the move that throws the opponent out of the corner.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

out of the corner.
And into the far other corner.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Have you even played or seen broly footage?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Lots.

King_Martha
King_Martha

guiltygearsweden.com/blog/2016/12/29/machaboo-on-fundamentals-for-those-that-want-to-become-good-at-gg/

So this is how shit works. In english
Poke
Attack on waiting
Whiff Punishing

When you start to think of shit, think of it as rock paper scissors. So you got a poke which will stop a dash in. You got a dash in on waiting opponent that beats the whiff punish. You got a whiff punish that beats pokes. It applies to GG, and will apply here. If two dudes are standing are the start of the game, what would they most likely do? Something to keep in mind is that matchups will change how this structure works and some characters will have different aspects to their offense.

If you're standing there, you're waiting. And you're going to get the dude to rush in on you. You're asking for ate-waza. So what do you do? According to the link, oki-waza beats ate-waza. Most of the time.

they block anyway and they hit me when i try to close the distance
Then don't close the distance. If they're blocking your beam, it means your turn is over and the situation is effectively reset to neutral. You don't need to be full on gorilla mashing all of the time. Hang back, chill and pay attention to how they're approaching. People are told to vary their approaches, but they tend to stick to one. If a dude is approaching you one way, and then repeats it, then it's a dead giveaway that he's going to favor that approach.

Snarelure
Snarelure

He's not wrong tho

Snarelure
Snarelure

wow it's almost like his autocombo changes sides for a reason or something

man it sure is a shame that using vanish against someone in the corner punts them out of it because keeping them in the corner is really convenient. if only he could somehow put them back in it

TechHater
TechHater

autocombo
You can't be serious
Why are you using vanish when you have someone cornered?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You don't need to use the air throw when you've cornered them, user. Think for a second. It's for when the opponent tries to escape the corner. You punish them and then immediately combo into that, and bam they're cornered again. It's so he doesn't have to force them all the way to the other corner (or rely on Lariat Express to do that for him every time). This ALSO allows Broly do do a Vanish combo starting from the corner that re-corners them.

Think about WHEN you should use an option.

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Booteefool
Booteefool

You can't be serious
If you don't understand the advantages some characters autocombos have I'm sorry to say but you're the scrub here, not I

Why are you using vanish when you have someone cornered?
To convert off projectiles? Or his lariat solo? it makes mid combo vanishes less stupid too, especially since this characters damage scaling is already pretty lousy so vanish doesn't hurt as bad

Firespawn
Firespawn

Why are you using vanish when you have someone cornered?
Normally it's a dumb idea, BUT Broly has a move that he can easily combo into after a Vanish extension that re-corners them.

Broly has side-switch moves for when he's cornered or has a hit with a corner closer to his back than his front. He always has a way to side switch mid-combo on top of various options to push people towards the corner he's put you close to. That's his ENTIRE gameplan, and why his combo options are WAY better in the corner.

FastChef
FastChef

all these Broly theory crafters
Fuckin kek

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@209944680
nice counter argument u chode, not even giving you a (you) for this shameful post

Techpill
Techpill

Doesn't understand what the point of a move is
Explained to what it's for
"Look at all this fucking theory try it in a real match"
Being able to turn a situation where you're cornered into a situation where you're pressuring them in the corner just from punishing a hole in their pressure is really fucking good, user. Broly has TWO options that do this, one for the ground and the other for the air.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

But broly does do low damage and has very little combo potential especially if he doesnt have assists.

idontknow
idontknow

But broly does do low damage
it's more correct to say "broly has bad damage scaling on most of his normals" as his specials and his level 3 he can combo into and out from let him do a lot of damage.

has very little combo potential especially if he doesnt have assists.
is hit low tier?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

NA lobby?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Hit can combo just fine

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Here's a shitty combo I came up with. You can omit the meter burning at the end because I can't help but dump meter in training mode. You can probably just omit the entire thing and just do combos from this.
youtube.com/watch?v=YMudexWKOMM

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

People just don't know how to deal with broly's command grab

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

without assists hit can barely even get a sliding knockdown (unlike broly), he can only string together moves on block because on hit they all send them flying 200 feet away (unlike broly) and his 2L and 2M are gimmick normals that you should basically never use until you feel you've completely pacified the other person (unlike broly)

RumChicken
RumChicken

I was playing around with it earlier, if you do it after basically any of his normals you can't mash through the armor in time unless you have a reversal, and if you try and jump out broly can just instead keep hitting buttons and frametrap you

it's pretty strong

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

ah shit, I didn't know you could actually combo into his 236+S but it seems obvious now that I'm actually seeing it.

Lunatick
Lunatick

What's your record for the day boys?

Got something like 15 wins and 6 losses.

Soft_member
Soft_member

470k supreme Kai, orange, 136/183,

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

You’re using frame delay in practice right? If you already are try raising it higher than you have it

I can’t usually pull off the 6k+ combos that I’ve done in practice in actual matches
but basic 4.5-5.5k combos are way easier and more consistent

eGremlin
eGremlin

He’s probably not bottom tier because he has some shit

But Bardock seems better
In fact Bardock feels really good, it’s looking like he’ll replace 16 for me. I’m getting bored of 5H and dunking.

JunkTop
JunkTop

should i just skip people with purple names?

Techpill
Techpill

tfw you win in the neutral because you’ve played other fighting games

Methshot
Methshot

Fuck this dlc is good, only dlc i've ever bought, any of you permanently switching someone for Broly or Bardock?

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Vegeta Blue for Broly.
Also considering switching Beerus for either Goku Super Saiyan or Cell.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Moving from Hit/16/Tien to Broly/Tien/16. I always knew I wanted to play big bodies with armor, and Tien just kind of clicks with me. I honestly couldn't say I had a main team until Broly, since announcement of the game I knew he'd be the character for me even though I never had a "main" in DBZ games.

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massdebater
massdebater

Bardock took Teen Gohan's place, but he was just a placeholder. I still need Vegito to replace Tien. Bardock himself is really just another placeholder for Base Goku though.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I’m running Bardock/21/Frieza now

Lunatick
Lunatick

I've got two teams so far with Beerus as point in one and anchor in another, so I'm planning on making a third team with Bardock/Beerus/Broly next.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I do

King_Martha
King_Martha

I willl just have another team with those two.

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I'm dicking around with Broly/21/and Freezer so I can kill Bardock's, but I think I'm gonna put Broly in and take out Tien. So my main team would be Ginyu/21/Broly

massdebater
massdebater

Would bardock work as an anchor I'd really love to drop black

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I find Ginyu and Broly work together exceptionally well. They each have a tool the other wants.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

He’s more of a point character, but you can try him out as an anchor if you want

FastChef
FastChef

His level 3 isn't very good, sadly.

Psst If you got gotenks, the donut assist into 236hs is a restand

Emberburn
Emberburn

who else here has already gotten memed on by broly's super armor?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Me, but I’m sure I’ll figure a way around it. If not then someone probably will eventually

5mileys
5mileys

Thanks, I'll check them out

StonedTime
StonedTime

Between Black, Vegeta, Cell, and Freeza, who would be the best characters to use with Broly?

I imagine Broly is a mid since he's both somewhat meter and assist reliant, right?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Is Broly too big for 18's assist to protect him?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

What arcade stick layout do you fellas use?

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w8t4u
w8t4u

L M A1
S H A2 of course

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

L M A1
S H A2
the other buttons are the ones i use in training mode

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Broly is a point because his options are built for eating the opponent's neutral and forcing them into the corner. Sure he needs meter to get combo damage but not in neutral.

Generally, just think of team structure as:
Point = Good Neutral, Doesn't Need Meter in Neutral
Mid = Good Assist, Can Use Meter, Good Pressure/Oki
Anchor = Good Assist, Can Use Meter, Can Function if Left Alone, Useful for Ending Z Change Strings
You switch so freely between your characters that the opening scramble is where the team comp matters most, unless your anchor is there for the assist alone, like Vegeta teams. Even then you see top players bringing in Vegeta when their other 2 characters are weakened anyway. Switch whenever you need to and have the opportunity to.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I think I want to pick up Lord Frieza. For a while now I've been running Goku as my point simply because I couldn't find a third character and he's easy and not Goku Black.

Is there a crash course to learning Frieza? I don't wanna be that guy who just throws rocks, does a basic short string into death ball before dashing back fullscreen to toss more rocks.

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

L M H
A1 S A2
but i use keyboard

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Pick up Bardock too. They go well with each other. If you play it IRL, just keep in mind that lorespergs will freak out.

eGremlin
eGremlin

i use keyboard

How's that working out for you?

Soft_member
Soft_member

Another keyboard warrior here.

A1..M..A2
L..S..H

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

it's the easiest fighting game i've played when it comes to keyboard input mostly because of only qcf and hcb in rare cases, but in SF, KoF and Tekken some things are actually impossible for me and with this keyboard even more

nice, kind of weird but muscle memory takes care of everything

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

*qc and hc

Spamalot
Spamalot

broly can't block shin ki ko ho
Is he too sluggish?

JunkTop
JunkTop

The fuck do you mean he can't block it?

SniperGod
SniperGod

L M H
A1 A2 S

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

that doesn't make any sense

on a related note, is broly's level 1 delayed enough that you can z change into tien's level 1 then combo into tien's level 3?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Bardock was the one character I was waiting for so he's my new point character, replacing Nappa.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I have the CPU set to use tiens level 3 while I'm holding left with Broly just to test it out, and his level 3 keeps breaking my guard. normally every other character can block. is this intended?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Yes, the delay is long enough to pull this off.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Broly can't block Tiens level 3
Really? Do you have a vid of this happening? Seems like a glitch

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

You can do it, but the timing is weird. If you do it as early as possible the second hit of Broly's whiffs. You need to time it so that Tien comes out on the frame Broly's super hits so that they're locked in place. I think the timing is easier for quick projectile supers like Big Bang, Burning Attack, and Riot Javelin.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Getting that Beerus double super off consistently is tough.
I'm trying to find a reliable timing so I can pull it off in matches

TechHater
TechHater

Broly seems really fucking boring. Not to mention he is the biggest reaource hog.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I see, thanks

eGremlin
eGremlin

He only burns meter in combos. He can win neutral and corner people without meter, and what mixup game he has isn't meter reliant either. It's just that he's got a Level 3 he can combo after so it's really enticing to use when you can, especially since he can combo from it into a reset situation where you can just throw out an armored button and beat anything they got unless they block or vanish.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Anyone here hosting some ring matches?
Been looking to practice my bardock

whereismyname
whereismyname

On what platform?

JunkTop
JunkTop

PC

TechHater
TechHater

not that user but I tried this out and I can't block either with Broly. It seems to act as some sort of overhead with him for some reason

Playboyize
Playboyize

I just got off PC but if you put up I can meet you for some sets.
I'm Central US though so Idk what our connection will be like.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Works on my machine.

Techpill
Techpill

Ginyu is genuinely average or above average in most tier lists

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Illusionz
Illusionz

OST Download is back up.

sittingoncloudsost.com/ost/games/games-series/dragon-ball/dragon-ball-fighterz/dragon-ball-fighterz-original-sound-version/

Now you can listen to Android 18's Theme outside of battle too

eGremlin
eGremlin

2M>5M>jc>5L>5m>2H>chase>5L>5M>2H>jc>5L>5M>214M>236R2>236R1 does 4007 before supers, 5238 after supers, doesn't require a vanish, and is easier (imo, its basically a staircase with pauses)

I'm seeing a lot of Bardocks online ignoring the fact if you wait after using your air medium kick you get a second hit.
So after every 5M in the air in this combo you pause and wait for the second hit. This only gets you 3-400 extra damage at most but its the difference between taking 2 combos to kill and 3.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I stopped using Black because
LOL TIER WHORE LMAO
but I'm struggling to find a 3rd char, I'm using 18/Trunks/??
Should I get Black, or should I get bardock and broly and try them out?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

not using TRUNK'S NIGHTMARE team with 18/Trunks/Black

TechHater
TechHater

thanks man

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SniperGod
SniperGod

if you dont want to get called a tier whore you cant go wrong with teen gohan

happy_sad
happy_sad

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Broly is hilarious. Blockstrings? Openings? Everything is an opening and pressure begins when he says so with armour.
Just throw out a M or H and if they block it, assist and there is your free pressure.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Everyone talking about Broly while Bardock seems s-tier as fuck.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Bardock is so fucking easy to use too. He's actually really dumb.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Are there any newbies in here that want to play together? Only have about maybe 30 matches and want to get into the game with fellow shitters. I'm on PC USA West.

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I'm not new but I am shit. I'll play you

RavySnake
RavySnake

literally who gives a fuck about being called a tier fag for one character (or even a team desu)
90% of players and this general have a team with at least one top tier char. play what's fun for you you fucking loser

TechHater
TechHater

How long before you get on? I got class in the morning

Methnerd
Methnerd

I'm in the USA West lobby. Very bottom server. Next to Local Battle. Pass is 0002.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Bardock/SS Goku/Cell
This team is pretty retarded. I love it.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I am getting on now

cool

Snarelure
Snarelure

How do I get good at consistently performing IAD's?

Soft_member
Soft_member

Practice them

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Spent the last 30 fucking mins trying to perfect the combo you gave, it's a pretty cool one ti gave in the arsenal but I'm still of the opinion that if you've already 2M'd them you should go for the down heavy launcher and staircase them, you'll get marginally more damage for less bar.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I know I don't have even remotely the skill to do this, but fuck I always liked Ginyu and now I really want to play him.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

enjoy no runbacks

:^)

MPmaster
MPmaster

Lobby?

Skullbone
Skullbone

its another good person pretending they're shit episode

JunkTop
JunkTop

Bardock's charged punch 236S
HOW DO WE USE THIS

People claimed before release it would be a guardbreaker but as it is now I can't see where I can fit it into my gameplan or where is safe to use it, aside from as part of a blockstring mixup to catch them pressing buttons? Like a simple light-medium-236S? It just seems too slow, too short range etc

tap the super dash button while holding just forward and you can get consistent, easy forward IADs. I'm using a ps4 pad and this is by far the most consistent way for me to put on pressure with IAD overhead mixup.

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Does anyone else feel this game gets harder at night?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

the game gets harder when you're tired

whereismyname
whereismyname

Actually I can't maybe next time

cum2soon
cum2soon

I;m in user's lobby

Good
lol

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

yeah yeah yeah
the old lowball yourself for some more props
aint biting

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I tried using it to punish approaches such as super dash but I almost always got hit

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Alright good shit "shitty" player. Lagging really bad that last game so I'm out. Thanks for giving me some games.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

GG's I hope the connection felt good to you.
Sorry if it got a little shitty near the end. My stuff is starting to run hot.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I see. Me btw

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Good stuff. I look forward to seeing you play down the road, especially after you get some more time with your 21

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I picked broly and two gokus for a laugh but it actually seems to be a really effective team for him

Methnerd
Methnerd

Hey everyone, look what I did!
youtu.be/z-PzKeI0OXg
youtu.be/_m23YxqU25c

Please share your combos too

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

To be fair 2 Gokus is good for anyone

farquit
farquit

probably shoulda clarified that those gokus are blue and black

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

On that first one is it possible to add angled riot javelin at the end?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

You're gonna love this, trust me! youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=cbPrX6e6hy4

TechHater
TechHater

its actually plus on block so if you use a move that puts you close to your opponent like 5h and call in an assist during the startup you can continue pressure or you might be able to catch people with it as a mixup

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

its plus on block you could start a new block string after an assist with it perhaps

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The win/lose ration being displayed on your card at all times is making me unable to have any fun whatsoever. I'm constantly stressed when I play ranked because of it. If it was just BP that they displayed then it wouldn't even phase me. It's enough to make me stop playing even though I have a pretty decent win rate so far. I can't be alone in feeling this way.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

No one cares about your ratio when you beat them.

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

PSA: for PC players grind your combos and setups on delay 4 to emulate ps4 offline input delay

Firespawn
Firespawn

how do I stop caring tho

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Focus on enemy characters and who you fight first.
Depending on connection their shit may not even matter

happy_sad
happy_sad

4F offline, for real?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Bardock got dem spins

Booteefool
Booteefool

have goku on team
win with him
all he says is "WEW" 90% of the time
this is stupid

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viagrandad
viagrandad

twitter.com/noodalls/status/961933712177819648?s=19

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

how do I git gud
im completely terrible and cant combo for shit,
only way ive won so far is spamming down heavy and following up, which for some reason brazilians dont counter

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

do the enemies in story mode ever put up a fight? I wanna unlock 21, but geez is it tedious fighting training dummies that don't do anything.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

yeah starting from the last chapter they actually start playing
goku's and freeza's sagas are just mindless though

askme
askme

They start actually fighting back about halfway through 21s campaign, but only because they have like 50% more damage and turn jabs into supers

Story is boring as shit aside from a few character events.

Evilember
Evilember

Does Majin Buu / Gotenks / Nappa work?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

ded game

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

probably, but maybe do yourself a favor and use one at least high tier character

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

roll Buu/Broly/Nappa and play team Big Boys

5mileys
5mileys

Gotenks
no

Booteefool
Booteefool

tfw broly is kind of bad

I like him a lot, fuck

I don't like 16 or blacks design, and cell is disgusting

What top tier lad should I replace Broly with?

JunkTop
JunkTop

mfw they think theyre safe holding up-back against broly

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whereismyname
whereismyname

Gotenks assist consumes a smash
Fuck

askme
askme

Okay, fellas.
I love this game, but everyone is destroying me, are there any tips you can give me?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Play Gohan of fair normals

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Playboyize
Playboyize

Don't get hit.

Supergrass
Supergrass

broly has a pseudo unblockable
It's ogre guys, he's broken tier confirmed.

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Nojokur
Nojokur

My body is not ready

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TreeEater
TreeEater

can't make a full female team

eGremlin
eGremlin

Thanks.
Haven't thought of that

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

18
21
Broly
It's not that hard

Techpill
Techpill

But seriously, work on defense.
Besides obviously blocking and countering the absurd shit lots of characters can do, focus on how to make sure your characters are safe (or better, out of reach of the opponent) at the end of your own series of blocked attacks, and ways to use your Assists to help in that regard.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Okay, thank you!

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WebTool
WebTool

i hit opponent
do like 5k damage
opponent hits me
do 80% of my life with long as fuck assist combos with 1000 hours in practice mode

Why the fuck is there no mmr decay in this game

I clearly should not be in demon rank like I was week1

I don't even know how to use assists properly at all and forget they exist all the time

Techpill
Techpill

Looking to create combos for all types of situations. What's missing?

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RavySnake
RavySnake

Bardock is going to be seen as Yamcha 2.0 in a week or two.
Meanwhile Broly's actual power will be realized by the end of the week and people are going to cry their asses off about him more than they ever had about 16 or Gohan or Cell.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

twitter.com/Hi_Im_Sunfish/status/979283370822823936

next

iluvmen
iluvmen

try to do something
get stunlocked forever
What the fuck, how do I counter this

Booteefool
Booteefool

How do I punish up teching in the corner? I'll do a combo and corner them but they always flip up.

eGremlin
eGremlin

This game just moves too fast with me

My brain can't keep up so I have no idea what's happening ever

happy_sad
happy_sad

You get used to it after a while. Anime fighters are usually a lot quicker paced than others.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Yeah these combos are still extremely impractical with the majority of the cast, vast majority of the time you'll get stuffed by 2m every time you stick out this dumbass 5L whiff in order to make broly do any damage.

Fun to mess around with in training mode though

Booteefool
Booteefool

Jump up with them and LMH them back down into an assist or L combo starter
Once they get conditioned to blocking the LMH you can start jumping up with them and Dragon rush

Soft_member
Soft_member

I don't even know where to begin to learn this game, there's just too much shit
People online all seem to know several combos off several starters, do perfect blockchains and never get caught out by an overhead, incorporate assists flawlessly and have too good offense for me to not basically die as soon as they hit me once
Playing this is depressing because I just have no idea where to even begin learning and get demolished even at orange square rank

WebTool
WebTool

Heads up for this incredibly cool Hit tech.
Works only with some characters tho.
youtube.com/watch?v=aSAR7rtKWmo
This is my example with Gotenks
streamable.com/oeh8s

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w8t4u
w8t4u

Vanish
Punishes
SD punish
Block string hit confirms

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

who is this jiren hing? kinda like him, look like a good guy

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I haven't won a match in 3 days

Illusionz
Illusionz

Finally getting some Adult Gohan players to crack, the angry messages when I ragequit on them are pretty great.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I haven't lost a match in 3 days

SniperGod
SniperGod

I haven't had a match in 3 days

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I haven't had a shower in 3 days

Snarelure
Snarelure

Fix that now.

Snarelure
Snarelure

i'd be annoyed at you pulling the plug but fuck gohan players theyre the cancer killing the game

Inmate
Inmate

i only shower once a week

SniperGod
SniperGod

Same, haven't had fun either in a week.

The player base on Steam EU is so incredibly small now it's basically just extremely good pink players which you will never take a game off, this is why fighting games will always be niche.

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