>It is well-known that brutal mass rapes were committed against German women; both before and after world war II. Over 100,000 women were raped in Berlin alone.
>The phrase "from eight to 80" was used to describe potential victims of Soviet mass-rape. "Red Army soldiers don't believe in 'individual liaisons' with German women," wrote the playwright Zakhar Agranenko in his diary when serving as an officer of marine infantry in East Prussia. "Nine, ten, twelve men at a time – they rape them on a collective basis."[44] Rape was regarded by men in the Soviet army as a well-deserved form of punishment, whether the civilians had anything to do with the war or not. In total, historians estimate that over 2,000,000 German women were raped.
>ibn4 1/64 German Americans chimping out over "muh oma"
Dylan Kelly
its a shame, but this is the price of war
germany wanted one and they got one
Ayden Morgan
What is the meaning of the spook meme?
Elijah Martinez
That's a lie
The Allies were the good guys and only the Nazis raped people
My women's sociology professor, Hershelette Goldstein, said so.
Youve obviously been brainwashed by nazi propaganda.
Nathan Torres
War is terrible, and brutality introduced by one party spreads to other parties as well. Expecting everyone to behave valiantly after years of killing and getting killed is unrealistic. That's why wars should be avoided and people that spread violent ideologies and start pointless wars of aggression are universally despised by non edgy individuals.
Luke Long
I remember reading how the relatives of a german woman from east prussia approached a group of russian soldiers that were running a train on her for almost the entire night to meekly ask if they could give her a break so she could breastfeed her baby.
Not gonna lie, I kinda got a chub reading that.
Colton Campbell
>a high level of discourse is expected
Cooper Clark
Yeah, just look at all those brits that committed mass rapes in germany.
Fuck off you retard, the russians didn't rape just german women, they raped their own rear echelon female servicemen, they raped polish women, even that little stretch of yugoslavia they passed through there were hundreds of reports of lootings, rape and murder.
Hunter Moore
Theyre the descendants of the mongol rape horde. Rape is tantamount to the slavic existence.
William Jackson
t. hans smolorov
Alexander Phillips
Accurate.
Juan Baker
Epic
Camden Nelson
spook = such a thing does not exist = such a thing is a meme
Benjamin Robinson
As opposed to millions of women raped and tortured by the Wehrmacht?
>Smolensk:German command opened a brother for officers in which hundreds of women and girls were driven by force, often by arms and hair.
>Lviv: 32 women working in a garment factory were raped and murdered by German soldiers, in public park. A priest trying to stop the atrocity was murdered.
>Borissov in Belarus: 75 women and girls attempting to flee at the approach of the German troops were captured by them. The Germans first raped and then savagely murdered 36 of their number. By order of a German officer named Hummer, the soldiers marched L. I. Melchukova, a 16-year-old girl, into the forest, where they raped her. A little later some other women who had alsobeen dragged into the forest saw some boards near the trees and the dying Melchukova nailed to the boards. The Germans had cut off her breasts in the presence of other women.
>Kerch:imprisoned women were raped and tortured;breasts were cut off,stomachs ripped open, limbs cut off and eyes gouged out. A mass grave full of mutilated bodies of young women was found after Germans were driven out of town.
>Lviv-Germans soldiers raped Jewish girls, who were murdered after getting pregnant. It is estimated that over a million children were born to Russian women, fathered by German soldiers.
Pic related shows Polish women being lifted by the Germans to work in brothels for German soldiers >In World War II, the German military brothels were set up by the Third Reich throughout most of occupied Europe, for the use by their soldiers in the Wehrmacht and for the SS officers. It is estimated that at least 34,140 women were forced to serve as prostitutes during the Third Reich. uncensoredhistory.blogspotdotru/2012/08/rape-by-german-and-waffen-ss-soldiers.html
>In total, historians estimate that over 2,000,000 German women were raped.
lmao
such an arbitrary stupid figure
Lincoln Rogers
t. Rodion Raskolnikov
Colton Flores
karma is a bitch
David Murphy
And.... what? What's the point of this thread?
Mason Lopez
>arbitrary stupid figure
Dylan Russell
the joke your head
Brandon Lewis
I once read about a group of Soviets that ran a train on a little girl and forced her dad to watch
Isaiah Hernandez
>the state of source material is very poor. Discarded.
Julian Jackson
So, you discarded the OP as well, yes, since he had no sources whatsoever?
Blake Lopez
Perhaps you should reconsider your choice of literature.
t. totally not an interpol agent, specialized in hunting pedophiles online
Landon Hernandez
The massive and brutal rapes by Russian soldiers were the psychological consequence of the Nazi massive and brutal rapes (and murders) of Russian women in children on the Eastern front, as well as the brutal conditions experienced by Russian soldiers as they fought into Germany. More than one German survivor of these rapes has recounted how either soldiers or officers (one woman went to an top officer to complain about the rapes) told them that the German soldiers did the same, and even worse, to Russian women and children so they should just accept it as natural retribution and wait for it to be over.
Women living in areas where the soldiers would stay for a few days, aka the cities, were more likely to survive than women living in villages or in the countryside, where soldiers would only pass through. This is because 1) there were more women, and you were less likely to be gang-raped, 2) villages were often the targets of mass killings, which made it more likely to die, obviously, and 3) when they were stationed in the city for a few days, soldiers were able to "come down" off the psychological high from the initial rape/pillage and develop a type of relationship with the women, which usually involved exchanging food and cigarettes, or even protection from other soldiers, in exchange for "willing" rape.
A Woman in Berlin is the "quintessential" account of these rapes (and the most readable, given that the author was a writer), although memoirs from women living in Germany almost always include mentions of them. One memoir I read was written by a woman who was only 13 when the war ended, and she recounted how the older women in a building she was hiding in told the soldiers about her, so they would rape her instead of them.
Camden Martin
I remember reading a letter from a woman who witnessed the German soldiers forcing Russian children in her village to give them blowjobs, telling them to pretend it was "cream and milk" coming out
barf
Dylan Thomas
whenever the roasties get what's coming to them I'm happy desu
Evan Barnes
it was well deserved though
Joseph Bailey
you reap what you sow desu
Aaron Murphy
>tfw I lost all sympathy for women >tfw I read this and rationally understand that I'm expected to feel sorry for the rape victims on either side >tfw the only thing I can think of is that if these women were alive today they would be feminist whores welcoming refugees and being willingly raped
Adrian Perez
While it was certainly horrible you can't deny that the Germans kind of brought it on themselves through their treatment of Soviet citizens and captured soldiers. Hitler should have tried to get peace with the Russians long before they reached Germany instead of bringing the whole country down with him.
Levi Perez
That photo and the description is a blatant lie, is obvious that most of the people on that car are men, and they don't seem in distress
Nathaniel Robinson
>I remember reading how the relatives of a german woman from east prussia approached a group of russian soldiers that were running a train on her for almost the entire night to meekly ask if they could give her a break so she could breastfeed her baby.
I heard a similar story but it was in a barn
Ian Thompson
How do I upboat this?
Dominic Morales
>>Kerch:imprisoned women were raped and tortured;breasts were cut off,stomachs ripped open, limbs cut off and eyes gouged out. A mass grave full of mutilated bodies of young women was found after Germans were driven out of town. Absolute rubbish. The Germans were bad, but by no means as bad as the Japs. Rape was punishable by death in both the Soviet and German armies, but it wasn't enforced for quite a while in 1945 by the Soviets because some of them (Including Stalin) thought it was justified that men fighting from Stalingrad to Berlin and seeing what happened to their people should have some chance at revenge.
Adam Howard
>The Germans had cut off her breasts in the presence of other women. Well that sure doesn't sound like Soviet propaganda.
Adam Reed
Two words: Dirlewanger Brigade. Sorry, your German heroes were monsters.
Noah Nguyen
It also wasn't enforced by the Germans on the eastern front. But Germans usually killed those rape victims.
Evan Torres
sources of the atrocities >Grunberger, Richard. The 12-Year Reich: A Social History of Nazi Germany, 1933–1945. Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1971; p. 104. Yeah its fake.
Carter Hall
Hard to believe that you fucks still argue about who was the lesser evil.
Sebastian Thomas
>wehe mere those untermenschen raped us! it was annutter treaty of Versailles!
Aiden Wood
Nothing like this comes up between Russians and Germans ever. The only people constantly trying to hide their own wrongdoings are the western allies and Poles.
Tyler Perez
This is not /pol/. You have to explain why it's fake. And it's not the only source about Dirlewanger's cruelty.
Brody Martin
This
Michael Howard
Oh, you are a retard believing in nazi propaganda. I shouldn't be surprised. Please tell me more about these polish crimes.
Nicholas Sanders
start shit; get hit
Sebastian Myers
heh, spotted the triggered Pole. You can sit back and relax. Poles are just born with a victim complex and will point out every single wrong their heroic people have suffered by their evil neighbours. The atrocities you mention are exactly like you say, just propaganda. And no, I don't believe in it. There was shit after WW1, but nobody really cares about that. I wouldn't expect Poles to admit to any crimes either though.
Dylan Barnes
>invade country >rape women >country counter-invades you >rape your women >"what! those barbarians how dare they!"
it's the Dresden and Tokyo whining all over again. One should not complain about unethical behavior when one is themselves unethical.
Ayden Anderson
So I was right, you're a retarded /pol/fag. Please tell me more about this Danzig "massacre".
Jace Clark
I was talking about polish militias trying to conquer upper Silesia in 1921. If you want to get triggered by wehraboos and genuine nazis go to /pol/
Christian Torres
There were other Silesian uprisings. Both started because if German brutality.
Lucas Young
Of course. Poland is the victim. Brb, I'll light a candle.
Isaiah Collins
Sorry buddy, you can't change history.
Hunter Jackson
The germs deserved it.
Tyler Sullivan
Rape isn't a spook you idiot.
Jacob White
Critical self-refletion has yet to come in your country. You guys are actually bro-type. The one thing really annoying is that vicitim complex of yours. >wah wah, no Pole ever has done anything wrong, everybody shits on us.
Logan Watson
How in the hell do you not get banned for putting that on Veeky Forums, but when there's a joke about slav rape babies being half demons on Veeky Forums and I post that picture, I get fucking banned.
Nolan Morris
Spare me this nonsense. This is not a thread about Poland anyway. Why are accounts about Dirlewanger's cruelty propaganda?
Brayden Wood
I don't know, never thought they were. My propaganda comment referred to alleged polish crimes against Germans Nazis bitch about.
Caleb Carter
This so much
Ethan Hughes
there's lots of similar stories. I read one, I think it was in A Woman in Berlin, where a neighbor recounted how she asked the soldier to please rape her quietly because her toddler was sleeping in the next room, and he went and looked at the baby then gave the woman food and left.
Aaron Young
>naziboos never go full dindu mode on the nazis
Adrian Johnson
...
Luis Wood
Oh fuck off. You want me to be a part of the conversation and not answer my question, fine faggot. Personally, ever country that participated in World War 2 (I mean by actually having troops on the front lines, not just supplying allied countries) did war crimes. Women were raped, children were killed, men that surrendered were killed, many died quick and painful, and many died slow and horrible deaths. World War 2 was a fucking shit show, and sadly we all know that we're going to get a remake of said shit show eventually. Are you happy now?
Tyler Hernandez
Mods/jannies and each board has their own rules.
Anthony Adams
dude, brush up your reading comprehension. What naziboos or extremists say isn't covered by my post.
Ayden Butler
Naziboo doesn't equal being german. I never heard a german complain about this
Nicholas Price
Thank you for answering my question. I had the feeling that the mods on Veeky Forums are more fucked up then the other mods.
Owen Bell
We have travel documents and jew death tole documents so you're wrong.
We don't have russian rape documents.
Kevin Allen
All the G*rmans should have been killed, they got off lightly.
Luis Rodriguez
>We don't have russian rape documents.
We do, actually. In addition to survivor and witness accounts, we have rape report documents as well as rape statistics taken by health officials during the occupation, which include rape reports, abortion statistics, birth statistics, etc.
Justin Davis
Nah , you are just a poor and horrible psycho
Kevin Carter
Proof?
Not denying it, just wanna see.
Juan Gray
>even their rape is collective JUST
Connor Young
>recounted how the older women in a building she was hiding
Gabrielle Koepp (though she was 15, not 13)
>When the soldiers came to the building, asking for girls, the older women called out: 'Where's little Gabi?' and pulled her out from underneath the table
Ayden Sullivan
They were just collectivizing the means of reproduction to the war-weary liberators.
Jaxon Cruz
I don't know that any of the reports are digitized, unfortunately.
The abortion statistics (taken from medical requests for abortions) can be found in 'A Question of Silence: The Rape of German Women by Occupation Soldiers.' IIRC this essay also discusses birth rates, but it's been about 2 years since I read it, so I'm not sure.
I'll go looking for the other specific sources later on tonight.
Wermacht could be executed for sleeping with untermensch, they werent allowed to sleep with slavs
Thomas Roberts
This.
G*rman soldiers raped and murdered just the same. It's utterly ridiculous how /pol/lacks try to paint Russians and raping savages and G*rmans as saints.
Gavin Fisher
I've seen an interview with a former Waffen-SS guy and he said that rape was fairly common on the German side. It would have been punished but a lot of it wasn't because it wasn't reported.
Julian Barnes
Thanks.
stats seemed really convincing, but then you threw out your outsourced anecdote and I knew who was really right.