/fhg/ - For Honor General

RumChicken
RumChicken

REEE GANKING edition

CASTLE GANK REEE
veekyforums.com/thread/209831571/video-games

Season 5 Info
forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-ca/news-community/164-318091-16/season-five-announced-dedicated-servers-and-hero-updates-coming

S5 March-April Roadmap
i.imgur.com/wMEUPWu.jpg

For Honor v1.19 Patch Notes
forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-ca/news-community/164-318557-16/patch-notes-v119

New players:
If you plan on using a controller, it is highly recommended you go into your settings and shrink the dead zone
pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

Things that were changed since launch:
pastebin.com/JVAxhAPY

Multiple hero video guides (outdated, ask your fellow sheep)
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

Wikis: Gamepedia wiki removed since it hasn't been updated since February of last year
forhonor.wikia.com

Character values
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

Gear modifier values
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

Gear Stat Help
i.imgur.com/7HPdL9B.jpg

Gear appearances
forfashion.draghmar.pl

Max Punish Guide
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wK-38XMvSakPMEk2rx8KjAzQFF5MJt_c7XMxNidYVfc/htmlview
youtu.be/k-lA7mffqBo
youtu.be/WVKfInyJsI4

Friends list sign up Doc:
docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

For those that have signed up:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

War of Factions:
forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

PVP Stat Tracker:
fhtracker.com/

Story mode collectables:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=864166443

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Flameblow
Flameblow

veekyforums.com/thread/209831571/video-games
when you manage to parry it was their first attack
no better feeling outside of ledging an LB or killing a Conq using Aramusha's all-block
tfw realize that this is over a year old and they still haven't done anything about her zone

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Deploy more war assets against the vikings

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

*deploys was assets against the knights*
oopes lol

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

t. weeb

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Finally getting burnt out on for honor.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Give me a drawing to animate. Keep it simple, im shit

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

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Playboyize
Playboyize

the eyeballs

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TechHater
TechHater

Alternative

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Post and rate mains

pls no bully, I tried to make him look cool

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Spamalot
Spamalot

What the fuck is that?

DeathDog
DeathDog

a bullied warden :(

Playboyize
Playboyize

Too much detail

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Good taste in sword guard

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Are you that rep 7 warden? I swear I literally just dueled you

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I'm rep 5, almost 6 at the moment. I do play duel a lot though, so you might have faced me at some point.

Snarelure
Snarelure

nani?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Law bringer is absolutely awful in 1v1s aside from turtling for shoves
Retards want him nerfed because of this and that he is decent at ganking, not the best though
He needs a rework, and I'm afraid that ubisoft is gonna listen to the crybabies and just fucking gut him into being shitty in every mode

eGremlin
eGremlin

How bad is the grind if I get the starter edition? Interested but I missed the sale.

FastChef
FastChef

how do I get gud at gladiator

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

zone

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

What are the best feats for winning with warden, vs feats that you use purely to have fun?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Shoulders and helmet paint look stupid, fix it

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Why isn't Cent's zone cancelable?

hairygrape
hairygrape

mains
in 2018

King_Martha
King_Martha

Each non-dlc hero would cost 8000 steel. You can get two thousand steel from doing both tutorials I think.
That plus the story mode might get you enough for two heroes or 1 dlc hero, maybe. Been a while so I don't remember the exact numbers.

From doing your daily orders you should get about 1000 steel.
Contract orders are a seperate set of six orders that resets every two days, aside from Friday I think where it refreshes after 24 hours.
Each contract order will get you about 100 steel each as well as a sizable chunk of experience.

So by playing for a couple hours each day you should be getting able to get at least one of the basic heroes a week.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Zones should not be fucking cancelable. It's complete cancer that some characters have god tier zones with essentially no punishes
PK zone is lightning fast and can cancel the slow as shit part for literally no risk
Glad zone is unpunishable if he cancels the punch as you dodge
We don't need more bullshit

Firespawn
Firespawn

53 and a half thousand steel and nothing to do with it

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

A'ight, so not too screwed, considering. I take it I do the champion status renewal thing in the pastebin guide even as I'm saving up?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Fighting against someone as Warden who can consistently parry your top light

Is my only option to get in trying to get a dodge shoulder/shoulder cancel in? Because that is punishable as fuck.

StonedTime
StonedTime

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Methshot
Methshot

what a handsome man

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Almost dropped my cup.

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happy_sad
happy_sad

Champ status only gives extra exp, loot drops and some emblem designs I believe.
It's not too expensive but it means that you have to use the steel from one of your dailies to keep it going every three days instead of saving it up for a hero.

So if you take a shining to one of the heroes you are able to play and want to level them up slightly faster at the cost of recruiting the other heroes more slowly, go for it.

But extra gear probably won't be useful to you early on. Meaning the champ status would probably solely be used to help you level up faster.

Methshot
Methshot

Posting a couple webms from tonight

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Disregard this shit, Uplay is having a sale on it for like 60% off. Guess I'll just get the Gold Edition and save myself a bunch of grinding.

MPmaster
MPmaster

just do a heavy overhead and cancel it, then you can use your top light parry to punish their parry. It's another option for you to use to get enemies to open up and try not to forget faints in general.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

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Booteefool
Booteefool

feint to GB actually working for you
Witchcraft. It's been so inconsistent since season 5 dropped I assumed they stealth nerfed it.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Sorry
Sorry
Sorry
As he KEEPS RUNNING

girlDog
girlDog

Carry goes a small distance no matter what, and I thought he'd hit the wall

likme
likme

Did they do something to that? I feel like I can never get the guard break because I just bounce off of their heavies. I used to do it all the time.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Whats Swifthawks problem with you and your team

FastChef
FastChef

I do that, but no one half decent falls for warden feints because his heavies are not threatening at all.

happy_sad
happy_sad

LOWTIER GOD
Gifs are weird. Does anyone know how to make one in 30fps?
I've just been using an online converter since im a pleb

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I hope you get into the game user.

If I can give some advice, you might want to cut your teeth in duel. Most people seem to enjoy 4v4s more, myself included, but duels are a more controlled environment where it's easier to get a grasp of the combat system, what each character is capable of and the timings of their moveset.
After that you'll have an easier time learning how to defend against ganks, how to contribute to ganks effectively and the other things that 4v4 requires.

Do you have a specific character in mind that want to try out? I can try and give a quick rundown of them if I play them and if I don't I'm sure someone else will be able too.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Just a little mad conqueror.

Inmate
Inmate

Is that you Kirk?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

telling a new player to start in duel
Criminey, give the poor guy a chance. I'm not one of those anti-duel autists but its definitely not the environment for new players

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I started with duel. I feel like getting gangbanged in Dominion is a much more soul crushing experience than losing in a duel is to a new player.

RumChicken
RumChicken

plays a viking
is ashamed of ledges

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Flameblow
Flameblow

Yeh

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Nah, I think new players legitimately should.
The smaller lobby size should allow for better matchmaking. Maybe.

Anyway, I'd say a lot of the veterans who have been playing since day one started with mostly playing duels. Back before we realized the inherit flaws it has.
It should still be easier to build up muscle memory for punishes and things like that in a controlled environment like duel.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

That's so bad it's good.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

It's too early to say who I'll actually get into significantly, I like the look of a lot of them, if I had to choose though? Nobushi, Lawbringer, Berserker, Aramusha

Methshot
Methshot

We played a few games yesterday I think.
Either that or the day before.

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Oh my god. FUCK YOU DUDE! You're too good.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Remember me eddie

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Lunatick
Lunatick

I know its not what you asked for but it was the first thing that came to my mind
I'll try this but it would take alot of redrawing and if I can't do a passable take at it I'll abandon it
Now this is the affirmation I crave baby

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viagrandad
viagrandad

Play them all user.

takes2long
takes2long

a lawbringer whips my ass in duel
try him out myself
he's shit
huh

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

LB is an auto lose against a competent player piloting a hero with any form of deflect
If they're playing someone that cant punish shove though then you have a decent chance

w8t4u
w8t4u

I would avoid Aramusha at the very least. He's in a really bad spot, and teaches you a bunch of bad habits that you won't get away with on other characters.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Average Knight Redditor.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Nah, I still get games where I get absolutely destroyed.
And there were a few games where we were on the same team. We coordinated pretty decently if I remember right.
You're at least one of the names that I recognize enough to know that, if we're on the same team, you'll probably watch my back in a teamfight.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

false-flagging as a weeb
Typical knigger.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

fucking disgusting

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Whoever coined 'knigger' deserves a medal.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Same. I remember getting fucked by you initially, and then we got paired up on the same team as two Lawbringers. Shit was so fun. Lawbringers gotta stick together in those teamfights.

FastChef
FastChef

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viagrandad
viagrandad

I disagree. I feel like duel now more than ever is literally no fun allowed with people abusing anything they can for a win. Earlier I played against a Warlord who did nothing but spend every round trying to 50/50 me by running over and switching between a guard break and his charge bash. After that a Conq who did nothing but confirmed hits. Duels are simply not fun, even if you know how the game works

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Oh an anecdote fight is it?
I feel like duel now more than ever is literally all fun with people only playing low tier heroes. Earlier I played against a Valk who did nothing but clever mix ups, using sweeps her charge bash. After that an Orochi who did nothing but side lights. Duels are simply fun, especially if you know how the game works

Emberfire
Emberfire

making a spinning webm instead of a front and back picture
Holy fuck why hasn't this been the norm it looks so much better

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TechHater
TechHater

Yup.
Hit me up if you ever want to group up.
I'm done playing for tonight but I'm not opposed to playing with people from around here if they want in the future.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Can't have autistic poses taken at perfect moment I guess.
I remember when I tried playing valk or doing side lights as Orochi.
Ended up eating alot of guardbreaks and heavies after getting parried.

TreeEater
TreeEater

It's really not anecdotal though. Duel is and has been almost entirely people abusing whatever they can for a win. Unless you play duel against a brand new player, they're going to be someone who will do nothing but 100% safe moves

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Definitely noted. I'm done for today as well, but I'll send you a friend request.

farquit
farquit

You say that but people acting like cunts isn't exclusive to duels. Everyones been 4stacked in dominion atleast once
I play almost exclusively duels and I still have fun with it. Theres so few enough people who are absolute tryhards that I can recognize them on sight
That one LB with the nazi emblem, that rep 50 warlord, pokeball guy goes from fun to disgusting depending on the day
Being a good sport and playing semi competitively is not mutually exclusive

Ranked is another story though. Fuck ranked

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Methshot
Methshot

Duels are simply not fun, even if you know how the game works
But that's the thing, he would hopefully be matched against people who for the most part don't know how the game works yet and are learning just like him.
You're not wrong that some people just sap the fun out of duels though. Keep-away players and other cheese has ruined the mode for a lot of players.

SniperWish
SniperWish

everyone finally loads in
good times are about to be had
server shits itself
fourth time in a row
Fix your fucking garbage, Ubisoft.

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Holy fuck why hasn't this been the norm it looks so much better
Because most people don't know how to record and make webms, even on Veeky Forums. I don't blame them, it's way more effort than just pressing a button and then dragging said picture to the window.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Make that 5 times in a row now. Apparently the servers are shitting themselves completely.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Weeee

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Supergrass
Supergrass

why does everyone have server issues except me

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Maybe you're just having better luck matchmaking than I am, but I find that duels are almost the complete opposite for me. The vast majority of the people I play against are just trying to cheese for a win and are obsessed with their win/loss ratio, usually quitting if you manage to beat them while they turtle every round.
Every now and then I find an actual good fight with someone who doesn't just stare at me and wait to parry something, but more often than not it's just going to be a Warlord camping a ledge and desperately trying to land a GB, or a PK/Glad spamming the ever loving shit out of their zone, not even taking a risk with light attacks because why would they?

Inmate
Inmate

Because that's too much work for my lazy ass

Soft_member
Soft_member

This is where the anecdote comes in. I'm only rep 66 after 800 hours because I almost only play duels
I'd say tryhards are 1 in about 20 games. Maybe your bad luck is just the hours you play at? Dead o' clock would probably have more autists than normal hours

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

PK player on my team spamming zone cancel every fucking fight they get in
Constantly staggering and interrupting me when I had a guaranteed kill because they spam their wide hitting zone over and over
Because they got in every fight they have the most kills
They're nonstop trash talking the enemy team
Everyone rematches
Enemy is doing better this round, they're holding two of the three points
As soon as it looks like we might lose the PK quits
Nothing is more embarrassing than some faggot talking shit and then quitting to avoid taking a loss

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Highlander
Has great mixup
Can crushing counter in every direction with his lights
His lights confirm the kick, which in turn confirms a heavy, making you eat about 50 guaranteed damage from getting hit with a light
Hyper armor that ensures he lands his attack even if you try to stuff it with a light

Do these baguette niggers even test the shit they implement?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

They tried to protect us user. They nerfed his stamina, his damage and his tracking
But no. Your hubris did this. You wanted to see his true potential but you weren't ready

SniperGod
SniperGod

It's anecdotal both ways. You have your experience, and I have mine. I've played at peak hours on duel plenty of times for the duel orders, and most of the time it's been an unpleasant grind of people playing crutch characters insisting that they're actually low tier

Booteefool
Booteefool

The swamp beckons.

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

That weapon
Ouch!

Bidwell
Bidwell

I can't believe this game doesn't have the archetypal knight with the sword and shield combo. Instead, that weapon combination was given to some snownigger.

Really boggles the mind.

MPmaster
MPmaster

I still can't believe BOTH dlc knights were made into roman gladiators.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Fuck you. Romans are way cooler than generic armor man

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Except both Cent and Glad basically have the same design. They were both made to look like roman gladiators, just with different outfits. It's pretty gay that each faction got warriors that made sense, and then knights just got romans because fuck you, why not?

Emberfire
Emberfire

That's the real kicker. Samurai get heroes that fit the aesthetic and time period of the faction.

Highlander works for Vikings because of Gaelo-Norse and real Viking activities. Shaman is shit and out of place though.

But knights? Knights get characters from an entirely different time period and civilization. And on top of this but characters are the same fucking thing, gladiators.

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Flameblow
Flameblow

His lights confirm the kick
What?

RumChicken
RumChicken

drag video to window
drag new video to window
post video

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Except they are not fucking knights. Every other season pass character, with the exception of the celtic beefcake, is consistent with their faction theme.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Viking
Highlander
Makes Sense
?????

Skullbone
Skullbone

what is dublin
what is the kingdom of the isles
what is gallo-norse

Emberburn
Emberburn

Forget how to parry entirely overnight
Sleep does weaken you.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Hitstun from the light makes it impossible (or very near to impossible) to dodge the kick in time.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Somebody post that warlord pic please. You know the one.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Surely he won't top light again
Go to make a move
He top lights

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

You need to get the right file-size, most likely get the right cropping on it as well. Most people are too lazy to do those things, which I don't blame them for.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Makes sense, guard switch delay does makes 600ms stuff guaranteed to 700ms kick could be hard to dodge I guess.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Highlander
Dublin
????

5mileys
5mileys

That satisfying metallic clang when you crushing counter a top attack as Warden

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Haven't played since Shinobi and whoever the fuck were released, how are Nobushi and Berserker in this meta?

And why is the Shaman such cancer?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Point out that someone is only winning because their crutch character is carrying them
LMAO YOU MAD, YOU'RE JUST BAD
No matter what though they won't switch from Conq, Zerk, PK, Shaman, or Highlander
I really hope the devs come to their fucking senses. Making every character OP is not good for this game

SniperGod
SniperGod

I don't feel like a nordaboo when I play warlord because I'm a blonde Irish man from Dublin. I surely have some Viking blood. I'm just honoring my heritage.

Highlanders were from Scotland tho. Dunno what kind of connection this guy is trying to make between Dublin, Vikings and Highlanders. Though to be fair, they really should have called Highlander "Gallowglass" which would make more sense, and also help that user look like he has a valid point

hairygrape
hairygrape

But user! If everyone is broken then no one is broken! I mean the meta is completely broken and nonsensical, but at least everything is as shit and unfun as the next thing :D

eGremlin
eGremlin

BROserker is absolutely bonkers right now. If not sharing the throne of cancer with Shaman, then at the very least a very close second.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I'd rather have every character be broken than only a select few.

idontknow
idontknow

I can imagine as anyone else besides conq I can imagine that zerker is the absolute fucking worst

Thankfully, conq's zone takes a curly shit on every aspect of zerk's kit

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I'm just honoring my heritage.
As someone with aspergers do inform me.
Why? Why do you feel like honoring something that is entirely out of your control and was simply happened out of coincidence. It's the same thing as patriotism, I truly do not understand the concept of being patriotic towards something that was just happenstance and out of your control.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

How is beserker so good at feinting?

Evilember
Evilember

Is Valkyrie okay?

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SniperWish
SniperWish

Conq and Berserker are both fucking terrible. Absolutely no punishes for any of the shit they do.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Dodge bash.
Get free gb.

Snarelure
Snarelure

400ms lights and HA

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Can't Conq light attack almost immediately after whiffing the bash? I know that I've eaten a light from a conq when trying to GB punish a missed bash.

Techpill
Techpill

They know!

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

dodge attack bash
get more damage than the conq would have
also makes you GB immune and avoids the mix up

conq has more losing and roughly even match ups than winning ones. his winning match ups are so incredibly lopsided and frustrating for the loser that he gets a higher tier placement than he deserves imo

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Tis merely a flesh wound.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Autism. Still appreciated nonetheless.

Evilember
Evilember

Can conq cancel the bash? If so, couldn't he set up similar parry traps for dodge attackers that warden can with his shoulder?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Doesn't cancels his recovery.
You need to have good dodges though, so heroes like Law or Goki can't do it. I've grabbed Conq's after their failed bashes ass WL though.

If it's any thing conq's bash works exactly like WL, except it can be done from any direction and he also has superior block on his dashes.
Also don't input the bash by just pressing Dash-Bash. You can delay your bash all the way to 400ms. So if done properly other guy only has 300ms at best to react, and thanks to no lag comp it's hard to do.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

not him but he can't as far as i know
he can only cancel heavies into bashes or all block.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

to be honest with you user. i usually like to play characters in games that i can relate to somehow. thats really all it is

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

can he cancel the bash the way shaman or warden can? no. once you've inputted the GB button during your dash animation, the bash has been committed to

Illusionz
Illusionz

it depends on what you believe about life. native europeans and pagans did believe that to some extent you ancestors lived through you when they died and so being loyal to tradition and tribes were very important to them. it's where a lot of sayings like honoring your ancestors originate from and things like that. I don't think many people feel this way in modern europe however as these beliefs were pushed in to a very small minority under christian influence in europe over the past 1000 years. patriotism is not too dissimilar from this ancient form of tribalism if you simplify it. instead of belonging to a small tribe and honoring the elders who have passed away, the entire nation is your tribe and you should want the best for them etc.
again, this is another simple way of looking at what I said above.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

again, this is another simple way of looking at what I said above

so youre asking me why i like to play characters i relate to?

askme
askme

Tfw the Conq buff was the greatest thing to happen to me as a cuck Orochi main

my.mixtape.moe/vsbayr.webm

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

no, I'm saying that playing characters you can relate to is a very simple way of putting that giant wall of text I wrote

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

ledging someone with a roach throw
Impossible. This can't be real.

Emberburn
Emberburn

It's fun

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Most people forget storm rush cancel is a thing.

Nothing beats the feeling of faceing off against a warlord or raider on some tiny ass little bridge and baiting them like that.

FastChef
FastChef

Is that a real emote? I might start playing PK.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

it has nothing to do with patriotism or anything. its more simple and personal than that really. it helps me to internalise my successes and failures in the game.

i've thought about recently, specifically when kingdom come deliverance released, and i've realised that my favourite games have always been RPGs. i started PC gaming in 1997 and fallout and baldurs gate were the games that started me off. at the time they were difficult of course, but as ive gotten older and learned more about gaming, ive come to find RPGs and all other single player games fairly easy.

so, the problem with playing non competitive, single player games, which arent challenging, is this: how do you take pride in what youre doing? why should you care about your accomplishments when they werent hard to accomplish and dont have any effect on you? its simple. you create a character through which YOU can experience the events of the game vicariously.

that mindset for me has translated into other types of games i play, as much as makes sense. i mean im not going to pick a white blonde european in tekken or street fighter because the characters in those games are extensions of your hands and your mind and you express yourself through skill pure skill and competition. but in a game like FH where the characters are pretty much blank slates besides their class name, then why not try get yourself more invested by picking and customising a character you feel some affinity with?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

yea

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Ledge baiting is the best thing

my.mixtape.moe/wyessf.webm

viagrandad
viagrandad

this was for you

5mileys
5mileys

as a conq main i actually feel like high level roaches fuck conq's shit up. since they nerfed out conq's ability to dodge guard on reaction it means i have to bring the fight to the roach, and the only way conq can do that is with bashing. and your riptide slash and anime rush cancels shit all over that

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

absolutely, it's one of the reasons I love playing table top rpgs so much. being able to create a relatable character through culture or personality makes the experience of playing the game more engaging. it doesn't always have to be reality pouring itself in to fantasy either. I remember back when I played wow people would get really invested in particular factions or races because they felt some sort of connection to them beyond game mechanics

takes2long
takes2long

As long as I have space I can reliably beat a Conq, but if you get stuck on a shit map or locked into a corner you are fucked.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

felt some sort of connection to them beyond game mechanics

i really feel like a lot of devs dont appreciate the effect this has on a game. i have nearly a thousand hours in for honour to this point and i really feel like if my main didnt exist, i'd have played one tenth that much.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

S H U G G E D

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

EU hours

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5mileys
5mileys

getting hit by a 600ms light
lmao

WebTool
WebTool

I've never seen so many samurai faction members at one time. I feel like 90% of my games are predominately filled with knights.

StonedTime
StonedTime

i feel like they need to give conq back his dodge guarding and fast shield feinting and shield feinting options back to make his defending more active and his offense less braindead

but they absolutely have to nerf his corner pressure. as a conq player i feel like its ridiculous. i also feel like conq is so shitty and one dimensional that i just have to take those wins now. but yeah its literally impossible to escape conq's corner pressure in the current state of the game. if he gets you OOS in the corner youre dead. no ifs or buts. youre absolutely fucked.

getting bashed into the corner by a conq should squeeze you out. it still ought to guarantee a light, but it should also move you enough that youre not still stuck in the corner would your asshole spread

Spamalot
Spamalot

he thinks european medieval knights were the only people to ever use sword+board
typical knigger

Illusionz
Illusionz

you fuck we fought before
you whopped my bum

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Soft_member
Soft_member

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SniperGod
SniperGod

I beleive there was a stat floating around showing that Amerifats all pick Knights, Western Europoors pick Samurai and Eastern Europoors pick Vikings.

So I guess it depends where you live

SniperWish
SniperWish

i know your pain. they should have developed this guy into a character and deleted PK. knights having an "assassin" is trash and PK especially is hyper trash

knights on release should have been

Conq but with a hammer - vanguard
Law - heavy
Pic related - hybrid
Warden - hybrid

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WebTool
WebTool

Well I'm American and from what earlier post said, he's probably playing with Europeans so I guess that fits then.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

She's had worse.

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Nojokur
Nojokur

I think you need to look up what the term "archetypal" means. Of course other people used them as well, but if you ask someone on the street to imagine a warrior with a sword and a shield, easily 90+% will tell you they imagine a knight.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

What's the point of this

Inmate
Inmate

previously existing cancer envelops newer cancer

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Methnerd
Methnerd

Ree, delete this. Shaman is OP bullshit, the bottom right one is wrong! You absolutely cannot dodge her bashes when bleeding! Even if she misses her second one is guaranteed!

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What's the point of anything

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

The season pass characters for knights should have been Templar (sword+shield) and Friar (quarterstaff)

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

quarterstaff
not lances and sidearm

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Using a weapon that is designed to be used on horseback on foot

Supergrass
Supergrass

fuck off jeanu fag

Emberburn
Emberburn

Pikes then.
But I'm not him tho

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Using a metre and a half long weapon designed for use in formation as a mobile weapon on your own

you really are retarded.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

using a pike outside of formation and vs infantry instead of cavalry

you fucking weapon. also you might not be the jeannu fag, but youre definitely one of them

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I wonder if they will ever make an archer type character with similar mechanics to shinobi, his long range heavies are essentialy projectiles.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Using a weapon this long outside of formations

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

no u

It's better than a 1 meter fuckstick that aren't remotely related to knights.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why is there no solo queue, I am sick and tired of suffering god awful team mates as i'm forced to go up against try hard clans of faggots

Snarelure
Snarelure

Unrealistically. I'd actually like a Knight with Minature crossbow/hand crossbow as part of his default moveset.
Would require manual reloads, deals more melee damage if all the bolts are in in crossbow, can also fire all 3 bolts at once.

Soft_member
Soft_member

you fucking weapon
not be the jeannu fag, but youre definitely one of them
You might wanna repost that when you catch your breath.

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FastChef
FastChef

If we got ranged weapons, I genuinely think it's gonna be more difficult to balance because it changes the game too much when we have to deal with finding cover or balancing damage/speed. It's most likely never coming to fruition, pirates and aztec warriors are more likely than ranged fighters.

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Friars are at least period appropriate, and a quarterstaff could potentially offer something else than just being another stabby stick.

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StonedTime
StonedTime

I can't wait to play a fat, bald old man with a beer belly wielding a child beating stick
I'm certain they will have a difficult time convincing the populace that they fit in the knights faction. Let alone convince their bosses that it's a dlc character that sells.

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

You do realize that the character would not have to look like that, right? They could take creative liberties, like they have with literally everything else in the game.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

The one thing more OP than shaman kills shaman
Daaamn

JunkTop
JunkTop

You just described Shugoki with that greentext

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Shug is not bald

Techpill
Techpill

He has a topknot that isn't that big, meaning he doesn't have a rich mane either.

happy_sad
happy_sad

pk
op
She's annoying to fight but she's not even close to as powerful as a not retarded shaman is

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takes2long
takes2long

Nigger PK has zero trouble with Shaman

TreeEater
TreeEater

still the fastest zone in the game
not op
I bet youre one of those kensei apologist

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Inmate
Inmate

How would you redesign it to make it appealing to players and not lose your job when you get shut down by unpopularity?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Reminder that PK has a higher win-rate than shaman and even edged out a win against her personally in PK/Sham matchups

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eGremlin
eGremlin

Something like this. Leprosy optional, of course.

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I want to violently fuck a Nobushi in the ass

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Vikings actually had control of the north of Scotland for round 800 years. Granted the lands they held stopped short of the actual highlands but it isnt completely baseless.

Illusionz
Illusionz

how are shinobi and law up there? I thought theyre horrible in duels

Emberfire
Emberfire

Leprosy option
tfw no Leper hero

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Playing style? Hero specifics? The first thing they think of when making a hero is how they fight and how it can all mingle well in the game.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Law had the HP advantage & shove-on-block to be an alpha-turtle and out-patience people.

Shinobi does poorly against the top three but gets bolstered by the rest. That 70% winrate against autistic warden mains in particular probably gives him a sizeable boost.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

a bad shaman*
muh zone
Kensei is kinda fun but he feels scummy to play
winrates determine which character is better
People actually fucking believe this holy shit

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Evilember
Evilember

Valk, Cent and Orochi are next for reworks, calling it.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

he has trouble with kensei

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eGremlin
eGremlin

muh feelies are more important than the only objective data we've got
I hope I'm being rused.

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TechHater
TechHater

It's a lot more credible than some random user attempting self-validation of Veeky Forums

Evilember
Evilember

Most if not all people do

Nojokur
Nojokur

But the Vikings were not even remotely associated with that kind of "highlander"

WebTool
WebTool

There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little kensei is honest post and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a Veeky Forums pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" centurio, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on Veeky Forums posting about a fantasy samurai. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic shitposting NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "KENSEI IS HONEST" You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Parries and connecting heavies can be followed with sweeps. Side sweeps knock down (due to sweeping the opponents legs from under them) and top sweep dazes (due to bonking the opponent in the head with a length of hardwood). Increased guardbreak distance but slower startup due to the character using the staff to tap the opponent in the gut, and throws from guardbreak cause knockdown.

So the basic gist would be controlling your opponent through knocking them about.

Emberfire
Emberfire

What is wrong with shaman other than she has a bloated kit and her bite is too strong?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

glowing in the dark
it's 8am on the east coast
the sun is shining through the windows

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5mileys
5mileys

Is that not enough?

TreeEater
TreeEater

hownew.ru

TechHater
TechHater

using inappropriate pasta
You think you're hot shit for having a meme textfile?
You didn't cross your ts boy.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Shes pretty balanced now actually. All her attacks are fairly weak 15-20 damage and her unblockable mixup is negated by a simple back dash

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Her ledging ability is stronger than warlards'

idontknow
idontknow

I think she's ok other than the reward for landing her dash while bleeding and her animations not matching the speed of her attacks properly.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Not really. Bloated kit doesn't really equates to a good one. Look at Shinobi and so many of his dumb moves are useless.

Valid complain. They should simply reduce her throw distance and the bash should be used as a way to increase it to it's current level. It wallsplats anyway.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Her unblockable feint(s).

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Bloated kit doesn't really equates to a good one.
Well in her case it does

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Granted that is true. Her kit is bloated with decent moves, but does she actually has some "Bullshit" win move like Peacekeeper's zone, Gladiator Zone, Conqueror Zone?
I am not 100% defending Shaman, she does needs number tweaks, but is she really a unbeatable bullshit that most people make her out to be?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

how about a free bite after every guard break?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Situational. She needs to grab you while you are bleeding, and you can't simply parry someone and grab them anymore.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Just don't get guardbroken, brah! Even though she can feint into guardbreak mid-jump, just don't get guardbroken!

iluvmen
iluvmen

mid weird teleporting jump

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

She can literally feint her leap. That makes no sense. She can softfeint every heavy into a omnidirectional bleed stab.Her Jump heavies are crazy fast and can be feinted into something else as well. The only thing Shaman has to commit to are her lights that feel like they are 200ms fast. It's just stupid.

FastChef
FastChef

oh yeah just dont bleed nice tip
its not like she can soft feint EVERY attack into a bleed from a different direction or dont attack since she can also deflect into bleed

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I take it you guys never actually tried playing Shaman, and learn her moveset?
She can only soft feint her starter heavy into bleed, and end chains with bleed. The top one is 400, side one is 500ms. I guess Aramusha is overpowered to because of his deadly feint follow same rules.
Her jump attacks are only fast from a single direction, that is left or her right. Top, Right are slower. We have proper frame data on heroes, them feeling too fast could simply be attributed to lack of lag comp, lack of experience fighting against her.
As for feinting, she can only do it on her forward/backward dashes. There was another user who said she actually puts down her weapon if she's gonna bash or holds them in hand if she does attack, I looked and he was right. Granted those feint are strong, but not really unbeatable since these are hard feints.

Anyways, You anons actually managed to change my thinking a bit . Her bash feint can be strong offense simply because she can soft feint her bash into heavy which she can again hard feint and could catch people off guard.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You’re arguing with /fhg/, aka warden and lawbringer power hour(low tier heroes in duel fries your sense of looking at things), don’t expect any clear headed responses after what you just said.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Aramusha does not follow the same rules, he can only feint a heavy from the same direction as his last attack, always has to follow side with top, top with side, and can't feint the openers. the problem with the dashes isn't because of the speed, it's because the animation and the speed don't match, it's completely counter intuitive which makes it 10x harder to deal with.

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