As we all know, ancient Israelites and Jews despised idolatry and depicting God was strictly prohibited.
Early Christians often depicted Christ, but never God the Father.
John of Damascus, one of the most important Christian theologians from the 8th century, explicitly states that depicting Jesus is allowed since he assumed a human form, but depicting the Father is prohibited because he's unknowable, incomprehensible, invisible and without form.
Then suddenly, starting with the renaissance, the Catholics go full retard and start depicting the Father as a goofy bearded old grandpa wearing a bathrobe.
Did the Catholics go too far and completely violated earlier Christian doctrines?
Jace Scott
Images were always important to Catholic teaching as way a to teach religion to illiterate people. Thus it was much more likely for God drawing to emerge in Catholic or orthodox teachings than in strictly anti image religions.
Nicholas Wright
Yes, but the depictions are still just symbols. Most Catholics consider god an unknowable mystery.
Parker Roberts
But the Orthodox still don't depict God the father - just Jesus and the Saints. According to the 7th Ecumenical Council, depicting the father as anything, much less a bearded man, is prohibited.
I honestly think Catholics went so far with their obsession with classical Greece and Rome, they started depicting the Father the same way Greeks and Romans depicting their gods. Pic related is a statue of Zeus, for example. I see the renaissance as basically an attempt to completely paganize Christianity.
Michael Clark
I think I've seen some depictions of God the Father in orthodox churches.
Michael Perez
They came awfully close. You have to remember that the Renaissance is when the meme of questioning everything and being a secular humanist started. The artists of the Renaissance cared more about their art being beautiful and innovative than they cared about being faithful to the Church and the teachings of Christ.
Levi Lopez
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Jonathan Walker
>the Orthodox don't depict God the Father
lol
Joshua Cooper
guys guys STAHP it's against DAROOLS
Nathaniel Jones
That's a paternity icon.
Elijah Robinson
To say that it is OK to depict Christ in majesty but not god the father is absurd. They are both symbolic images, no one knows how Jesus or any divine thing looks
This is actually a common Hersey; to imply god the father as more divine than the son
Carter Johnson
>My opinion is
lol
6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”
8Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.”
9Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me?
***Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father.***
How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me, carrying out His work. 11Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me—or at least believe because of the works themselves.
Gavin Johnson
Fuck off Orthoshill, your shitty sect has depictions of the Father too.
Juan Turner
This is not a question of divinity but rather the question of us not knowing the father's form and the fact we're not even ALLOWED to know this form. This is explicitly stated in the Old Testament:
>Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see Me and live
Caleb Hughes
Stop degrading the Son, Judaizer Orthoshill. Go with your Judaism somewhere else.
Alexander Foster
Get lost LARPer.
Adam Morris
>An American "Orthodox" who LARPS as a bearded Russian on a chinese board cartoon calling anyone LARPer.
Fuck off Cletus. Some oriental "Christian" sect doesn't make you look good.
Nicholas Lewis
Where are you getting this notion that I'm an American? We had a decent theology debate and then a retard like you storms the thread and starts shitposting. Go back to /int/.
Isaac Ortiz
it's pretty obvious you're American attempting to trigger catholic shits by falseflagging
Presbyterian?
Christopher Wilson
American Trump supporters think it's edgy to be Orthodox. They feel good being Orthodox because is almost the same as being a Protestant.
Stop with your Orthoshill hipocresy. The Orthodox Sect depicts Christ as Sophia, an angel (also called the Holy Silence). That's not paganism for you, right? Fuck I can swear you "converted" to Orthodoxy thanks to pol.
Sebastian Wright
>Depicting God as an old man is bad and pagan >Now have this icon of a 4 eyed monster with horns, praise him
Orthocuck logic
Adam King
Actually I'm Slavic, not an American, but not Orthodox either. I'm just trying too highlight the discrepancy between Orthodox and renaissance Catholic depictions and I fail to comprehend how did the Catholics fuck up theological orthodoxy and tradition this hard.