Anglo'd

This may surprise you, but Britain created the USA.

Yep. People always say

>w-we speak english because of america!!!

Ever wonder who kicked the French out of north america?

>Britain created the USA

Nop

>Ever wonder who kicked the French out of north america?

Yes. French themselves.

Oh boy it's another /int/ thread.

Their relationship is of the same. Britain the basrarf half child of France.

America the bastard half child of Britain.

Que sera sera

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I'm afraid Britain doesn't really comes close to France in historical influence. France was the most powerful country in the West for half of its history, and the most culturally influential for about 80%. Britain's period of political dominance is barely a century long blip, while it never managed to surpass France as cultural world leader.

Not to mention Britain is a French colony in the first place. English is a French creole, and we speak it not because of Britain but because of America, another country that was created by France cucking Britain.

>China
Literally irrelevant

Not really. We speak english thanks to americans. British culture isn't even prevalent besides music.

Also, Rome has influenced mankind millenia after its fall. There's no way the UK can even compare with that.

There are the founders of civilisations. These are, from greatest to shittiest:
- French
- Greeks
- Sumerians
- Egypt
- Jews
- Chinese
- Indians
- Mayans
- Quechua
- Dravidians

Then there are the conquerors of civilisations. These are:
- Romans
- Akkadians
- Persians
- Arabs
- Turks
- Aztecs

Look at the failures that are former French colonies and former British colonies in contrast. French is spoken by niggers while English is the language of the financial elite.

>We speak english thanks to americans

No you don't. You speak English because the British Empire made it the lingua franca. The British Empire exported it to Canada, India, Africa, Australia, and China.

China is a superpower today, but people in Laos and Vietnam speak Thai and Vietnamese.

Mexicans still overwhelmingly speak spanish, also, despite heavy American Influence.

>Lingua franca
>French Language

Lingua Franca was a language combination of French, Greek, Arabic and Spanish.

your language use latin characters, those of Rome
what now william?
also America is what really keeps English alive today

No it isn't.

>Jews
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

America spread the popularity of English after WWII
are you even comparing?

Great argument.

Does anyone actually believe this?

Well a branches of judaism are the dominating religions on the globe so... yeah. Also they're really good at nepotism and handling of money.

Just respond to my other post

>Does anyone actually believe this?

Bongs.

I never heard of a single instance of Jews creating civilization, ever. Israel and Judah were backwaters aping Mesopotamia and Egypt.

British Isles (UK + Ireland) are probably the most influential peoples in the world today. Since the acts of Union (1707) & end of the war of Spanish Succession (1715) when the Britian became a world leader after a history of being pagan (celti) civ (prehistory-43AD), then it was a roman bitch (43-410), then the chaos as saxon, angles + jutes invaded and creoled with the roman-britons, and native celti til 1066, when we became a french bitchdog both in norman rule, overlordship + french european dominance. we were redpilled with magna carta and edward I. roll onto 1689 w/ english bill of rights (redpill). up to spanish succession. we became big dogs. lost USA because of french aid.

nevertheless be whipped napolean at trafalgar 1805 + waterloo in1815.

NOW Britain is the most powerful once france is broke. this period (pax britannia 1815-1914) we were woke smaking up the world making it anglo. roll onto 1914 we smak the hun by 1918 and then the nazis in 1945. we hand gauntlet to USA who carry on anglo traditions but we influenced + populated them, they had the right to rebel in 1776 they were ENGLISHMEN and they deserved their freedom + representation as manly gentlemen

Delusional bong. Kind of sad actually.

Uhm, ok.

typical British colony: Zimbabwe
typical French colony: England

I mean, I know England isn't great, but worse than Zimbabwe? I'm not sure...

Also that's not very nice calling the British royal family niggers...

>Mexicans still overwhelmingly speak spanish
and?
it's not a fucking colony.
English became important as SECOND language also because of the American economical influence.
Nobody cares about it as a first language in other Anglo countries or in the third world Commonwealth.

Why are bongs so hilariously delusional? I don't think anyone else even comes close.

No it isn't. It's spoken as a second language in Europe due to trade being conducted in English throughout the 19th century. It is learnt as a second language today in Europe since it's common off shore in many countries like India, South Africa etc. They also learn British English, not American english.

>French at the top of the list
You wanna know how I know youre a Frenchie?

>bongs are delusional
>fails to provide a counter argument at all

i could beat you up so easily hahahhahaha

kinda reminder that in Italy French was still more common than English before the war
the UK spread the English language but America keeps it really relevant
the British empire is over m8

I agree with you 100% that America is the reason English is still the Lingua Franca. If the US didn't exist it'd be German by now.

I'm just annoyed by retarded americans who think they're the reason it spread in the first place. The US wasn't really relevant until 1941.

>No you don't. You speak English because the British Empire made it the lingua franca.
Except that's fucking wrong
Here:
>French replaced Latin as the most important language of diplomacy and international relations (lingua franca) in the 17th century. It retained this role until approximately the middle of the 20th century, when it was replaced by English as the United States became the dominant global power following the Second World War.[47][48]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language#History

Even at the height of the British Empire, French was still the international language
That's why German diplomats adressed British ones in French in 1914 ("chiffon de papier")
That's why there are many accounts of how US soldiers had to use French to talk with civilians in Itlay, the Netherlands and Germany during WW2

>The British Empire exported it to Canada, India, Africa, Australia
Literally none of these places are relevant
Britain brought English to the irrelevant shitholes it ruled, America brought it to Europe, Russia and East Asia

>and China.
Lol no
To HK and that's it
The rest of China couldnt speak English for shit until US hegemony

>Mexicans still overwhelmingly speak spanish, also, despite heavy American Influence.
So do the Pakis in London
We're talking about 2nd language here, faggot

>The US wasn't really relevant until 1941

Neither was English language
Strange coincidence, isnt it?

>we speak english

Veeky Forums is in english, and since we are the culmination of human society, England is important.

>French replaced Latin as the most important language of diplomacy and international relations (lingua franca) in the 17th century. It retained this role until approximately the middle of the 20th century, when it was replaced by English as the United States became the dominant global power following the Second World War.[47][48]

Are you seriously using Wikipedia, an open source site as a source? It's a hive of nationalist editing and misinformation.

No one's disputing French was used widely across western europe, but that's because of large numbers of french residents and descendants living in neighboring countries such as the Netherlands and Italy. People prior to 1940 didn't learn a second language in schools unless they were going into business. You rarely left your country unless in the army, or were a trader.

Between 1870-1918, Germany was the most powerful nation in Europe, yet German wasn't the lingua franca of Europe, and it's because it wasn't as widely spread as French.

>Literally none of these places are relevant
This comment alone makes you look like a fucking idiot.

>Britain brought English to the irrelevant shitholes it ruled, America brought it to Europe, Russia and East Asia
You brought it to Japan. That's basically it. And that's because of business and tourism being interlinked with America. The Vast majority of Russians speak Russian and don't know much English at all. Same with the Chinese. In international business and diplomacy, English was used. In continental affairs, French was used.

>some of the most economically developed, largely populated and resource rich areas of the world are irrelevent because they aren't in his local newspaper.
amerisharts everyone.

>In international business and diplomacy, English was used. In continental affairs, French was used.

Then explain why Russian and Japanese diplomats during the Russo-Japanaese War of 1905 used French to communicate

Source?

Regardless, France held no influence outside Europe. Couldn't even beat Mexico.

>Britain created the US
The Enlightenment created the US and who created that?
The French

>Couldn't even beat Mexico.

Actually they did beat Mexico, but then our Civil War ended and we pressured them into leaving
Mexishits should be grateful that we saved them from frogs

That's what people in my country said 400y ago. You have the internet and globalism to thank for your widespread language. Let's see what happens in 400y like in my country.

>Western civilisation isn't the greatest in history

You wanna know how I know you're a Muslim?

>Lingua franca
>Frank-a
>Franks
>"a group of Germanic tribes that inhabited the land between the Lower and Middle Rhine in the 3rd century AD"

Literally cucked by your own Demonym

>kinda reminder that in Italy French was still more common than English before the war
Not just Italy, all of Europe.

>Replies
You

more importantly all of the ideals and concepts of the founding fathers and the original colonies were english in origin, the colonies didnt rebel because there was no democracy, they rebeled because they werent represented in it.

You'd be nothing without the Roman Empire. The Romans are the most historically significant in the west.

Lol

>I'm afraid Britain doesn't really comes close to France in historical influence

debatable, both because britain was a rival and superior to france for most of the last 3 centuries.

>Britain's period of political dominance is barely a century long blip
and in that period, actually more like 150 years, the british accomplished far more radical and wide ranging changes to the world than france managed in the previous 1000, revolutionising technology, industry agriculture and commerce and essentially establishing the modern world, even the super power that replaced britain owes most of its inspiration to britain supplanting britain largely due to a wealth of resources than any inherent superiority.

>while it never managed to surpass France as cultural world leader.
art aside britain was the political and cultural leader by the 19th century, french culture has been in decline since, devoted to navel gazing introspection and pretence

>Not to mention Britain is a French colony in the first place. English is a French creole, and we speak it not because of Britain but because of America
none of that is true, the british anglocized the normans the normans didnt francocize the british, English is at its heart still a germanic language with french loanwords although modern french has a heavy leavening of english loan words, and america continues and enforces a trend begun by the english

No they are learning american english outside of Europe.

>superior to france for most of the last 3 centuries.
Lmao
From 1815 to 1945 maybe
During the 18th century France was the Heart of Europe to the point even its enemies like Prussia and Russia spoke French in their own court
And don't get me started about the first decade of the 19th century that literally saw French military presence and direct cultural influence on the entire continent

>the normans didnt francocize the british
They did though
They profoundly changed the language and reformed the state to the point it was barely the same nation before and after
England owes its relative relevance in history to them and to them only

>English is at its heart still a germanic language with french loanwords although modern french has a heavy leavening of english loan words
You're deluded as fuck m8
English is literally full of French words
Half of the words that give the sense to a sentence (verbs/adjectives/nouns) are French, to the point you can hardly make a sentence in English without French words
Are you really trying to compare that to the few dozens of English loanwords that entered French language since the beginning of American hegemony (most of them, ironically enough, being English words of French origin in the first place like "parking", "e-mail" or "management")?

>>superior to france for most of the last 3 centuries.
>Lmao
>From 1815 to 1945 maybe
>During the 18th century France was the Heart of Europe to the point even its enemies like Prussia and Russia spoke French in their own court
>And don't get me started about the first decade of the 19th century that literally saw French military presence and direct cultural influence on the entire continent
from the 1750s onwards britain was able to consistently beat france in terms of global projection and ensuring the final outcome of struggles, from the seven years war, to the napoleonic wars to the pax britainia britain was able to get the results it wanted in the final settlements.

you are also completely igoring the fact that britain from 1750 onwards did far far more to shape what became the modern world than france, the modern world is a creation of the anglosphere, and americas role has been as a sustainer not a creator of that basic pattern

>from the 1750s onwards britain was able to consistently beat france in terms of global projection

Too bad until WW1, only Europe truly mattered in shaping history

from 175 onwards only britain really mattered in shaping world history, franco german squables affected only europe

>normans
>french

All these buttblasted euros