It's crazy how the current American domination of media has lead to a violent overrating of England/Britain through history
A very noticable effect of that is the retarded belief that English has always been the international language through history (when it has really only been the case since WW2) In movies that features different languages set in the 16th, 18th century or WW1, you see Spaniards, French or German address Brits or each others in English like it would occur nowdays instead of Spanish or French like it was really the case until WW2
The worst case of all being the movie pic related This piece of shit prides itself in the use of different languages to add realism, yet it makes English the language of international communication between crusaders English was irrelevant as fuck during the Crusades, even "English" nobles barely spoke it since their native language was French 90% of the time The language of international communication was Latin btw (or French when between French and "English" knights), not fucking English Even German was more relevant than English
Jonathan Clark
Weird thing it is, that an English speaking country might film their cinema in English.
Leo Barnes
What the fuck.
Zachary Bennett
Why don't you go to film school and make your own shitty movie, Frenchie?
Easton Johnson
Are you retarded? That's why I specified >In movies that features different languages
If the movie is fully in English to appeal to the audience like in Gladiator of Troy, I don't give a shit What bothers me is when they try to make the shit "realistic" by adding different languages and then anachronistically make English the language of international communication
Jonathan Campbell
Sorry, I couldn't be fucked to read your wall of text. So you're saying you're just autistic, then?
Nolan Harris
If they did that there would be no English in these movies.
Hudson Lee
You're either autistic or French, because this is something that shouldn't bother any reasonable person.
Jaxon Martinez
I'm not French though The French are guilty of this too I once watched a French film about WW1 that featured different languages (called "Joyex Noel") and the French, Germans and Brits talked to each others in fucking English, although French was still the european lingua franca in this era (remember the "chiffin de papier") and literally no one but Brits could speak English in Europe before WW2
That's how poisoning US cultural hegemony is, even non-Anglos are fooled into overrating Brits (and the movie I mentioned in the OP is Swedish btw)
Easton Powell
>A very noticable effect of that is the retarded belief that English has always been the international language through history I've literally never encountered a single person who believes this. >This piece of shit prides itself in the use of different languages to add realism, yet it makes English the language of international communication between crusaders It's a fucking movie made for English-speaking audiences, no shit most of the characters speak English in it. Do you also rage that everybody speaks English in Star Wars? Are you literally autistic and do not understand conceits in fiction?
Samuel Butler
It makes people believe that Brits rather than Americans made English relevant Anything that gives false beliefs about history to the mass is annoying to me
Nathaniel Martinez
>Europoors
Aaron Hughes
You type like you're French.
Connor Sullivan
>The French are guilty of this too You mean they made movies where characters speak French so their French audiences can understand them? Yeah how dare they. They should have everybody speaking period-appropriate languages even if only maybe 20 living people would understand them without subtitles so that it doesn't trigger your autism.
Nathan Price
Honestly the only thing I dislike about Americans and their media is the brainless Britbooism. They even take this to a retarded level when all of the upper class / aristocracy / kangz in a movie speak with a posh British accent even if they're first century Romans or the French during the revolution.
Grayson Clark
Not sure what it means to "type like a French" I'm not a native English speaker (although I doubt it's noticable in my post), but I'm not French, nor do I speak their language Latin alphabet isnt my native alphabet but I think I master it pretty well
Jaxon Price
Proof that too much /int/ atrophies the brain.
Austin Perry
you do relize that they dident have the time nor money to learn every actor to speak latin, i think that is preatty easy to understand
Brandon Martin
Then simply make the english knights speak french, cause you know, that's what they actually did speak.
Asher Cruz
It's as if they want to make the movie more appealing to the wider audience. Why would people who want to make money trying to make their product more appealing? it's ridiculous.
>You're a moron.
Mason Hernandez
lol, i dont think two guys from england would speak french to eatch other
Joshua Morgan
>i dont think two guys from england would speak french to eatch other
Richard lionheart, the most famous """english""" crusader didn't even fucking live in england, nor was he able to speak english. Now I do not know what was the linguistical situation among lower nobility i.e, knights but I'd wager they were probably able to speak french as well.
Xavier Gutierrez
>They even take this to a retarded level when all of the upper class / aristocracy / kangz in a movie speak with a posh British accent even if they're first century Romans or the French during the revolution. How should they talk? The US doesn't really have class based accents, while the British ones are easily recognizeable to most Americans. Their use aids in characterization, which is more important than historical accuracy unless it's a documentary.
Angel Bell
i dont think lower nobility would speak french to etchother when both are nativ english
Angel Perez
Except "English" nobles (the ones that crusaded) were mostly Frenchmen
The Germans were bootyblasted by the fact French and English knights always conversed in French, that's why they created the German speaking Teutonic Order
Adrian Hernandez
>Wow this was a shit film for many reasons let me read what OP has to say. WAAAH THEY USED ENGLISH! ITS AS IF THE FILM WANTED TO PANDER TO A WIDER AUDIENCE. >Gets out of an obviously French Salt thread. But hey, here's a (you), lyl, >H>R>E Eternal Anglo Amirite? honhonhon.
Jace Bennett
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Colton Price
When exactly does Arn take place? By the mid-late 12th century the Anglo-Normans would have mostly been English speaking.
Camden Long
Story of the last Samurai was largely based on Jules brunet a French officer who was supposed to westernize the jap army.
I get that producers need to get a broad audience. But they could at least make a little tribute to the original characters at the end or the biggining of the movie. Or maybe give the mobie character a similar name as the real one
Jordan Rivera
I understand what you are saying but the sad fact is that very few people care about historical accuracy. Hell I would much rather watch a great movie that butchers history than a good one that is super accurate. So since so few people care about history then other factors are more important like making the main consumers of the media feel comfortable
Thomas White
That's bullshit though English didnt became the official language at the English court until the 14th century Lionheart himself couldnt speak a single word of English
Doing some research on the Crusades will learn you that the languages among crusaders were Latin, French, German and Italian No mention of English language is made anywhere
Josiah Richardson
>all these people meme ing without even trying to understand what OP is saying
Parker James
Most people don't watch movies to be educated, just entertained.
Michael Ramirez
Because the Anglos inherited the earth and their target audience is themselves and they are suppose to find the good guys relatable. That's why the protagonists speak English while the durkas speak whatever durka language they speak. French sounds gay as fuck when it's spoken by men too.
Adrian Powell
>French sounds gay as fuck when it's spoken by men too.
As a German, I find French much less feminine sounding than English Except when it's French spoken by a Brit of course (which is often the case in Anglo movies with French characters) The fact they have a strong gutteral R like us (instead of the weak ass W sounding English one) is one of the reasons
Parker Martin
Weird, it's almost universally accepted here that French sounds very gay
Mason Ross
I've only ever heard that on the English speaking internet Must be related to your rivalry with them Here in Germany we don't have this stereotype
Luis Hill
No rivalry with them I'm not British, I'm Mi'kmaq Canadian. Some of us speak French too. It's just known to be very effeminate.