How were muslims seen throughout history ?
Were they seen as barbaric and anti-intellectuals like they are seen today ?
I know Churchill said something about how single muslims are like christians but collective-wise they are like a dog with cholera and the most retrograding force in the world.
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No now now, today muslim world (especially the traditionalist like pakis, afgan, saudi, etc) is like qing dynasty and japan before meiji era
they hate knowledge like science, physics, biology, and others because think invented by non muslim
They do something that sometime illogically because so easy to believe a fatwa
No, back in the Islamic golden age they were fucking based and made a lot of scientific and cultural advancements.
The comparison with Qing/Japan makes no sense. Neither of those two entities are anti-science/anti-physics/anti-biology. Nor are they hostile to non-jap/chinese invented stuff. Infact both Qing and Japan bought military arms like guns and ships from Europeans. They regularly sought out the knowledge in engineering and science from the west, the Europeans however feared giving them knowledge and power. So they imported opium to destroy the internal governance and the local people's morals.
Such as?
>So they imported opium to destroy the internal governance and the local people's morals.
Or to make money?
Nigga do you even read the documentary?
they hate the knowledge not the thing yurop made
do you even read the news
the taliban teach their kids how to use AK-47 but not into mathematic and reading until 2010
Arabic Numerals
Taken from India
Indians invented that
Everybody takes something from someone. At what point is it fair to say the numerals were Arabic, even if they originated in India?
The common British people very well knew what was being done in China.
It wasn't such a rosy tinted innocence. If making money was of concern, why didn't British empire legalize assassinations for hire or murder for hire? That would make some people rich..
>The common British people very well knew what was being done in China.
The common people really didn't have a say in the matter.
>If making money was of concern, why didn't British empire legalize assassinations for hire or murder for hire?
Dealing drugs ≠ legalized murder, unless your going by some abstract moral equivalency which reeks of being holier than thou. This is a time when opiates are legal in most of world anyway.
The claim was Muslims made cultural advancements as if it was original and innovative by Muslims themselves. Islam began 610 AD. The numerical system predates Islam. Muslims had no role in inventing the numerical system.
Britain did invade countries and kill kinds for profit.
So they legalized murder and assassination for hire.
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Du Huan mid 8th century ad
"They have three confessions, the Arab (Islam), Byzantine (Christianity) and Zimzim (Judaism). The Zimzim practise incest, and in this respect are worst of all the barbarians. The followers under the confession of Arab have a means to denote in law, while not entangling the defendant's families or kins. They don't eat the meat of pigs, dogs, donkeys and horses; they don't respect either the king of the country, nor their parents; they don't believe in supernatural powers, perform only sacrifice to heaven (Allah) and to no one else. According to their customs, every seventh day is a holiday (Jumu'ah), on which no trade and no currency transactions are done, whereas when they drink alcohol, and behave in a ridiculous and undisciplined way during the whole day. Within the confession of the Byzantines, there are beneficent medical doctors who know diarrhea; they could either recognize the disease before its outbreak, or could remove the worms by opening the brain."
"Arabia [Dashi] was originally part of Persia. The men have high noses, are dark, and bearded. The women are very fair [white] and when they go out they veil the face. Five times daily they worship God [Tianshen]. They wear silver girdles, with silver knives suspended. They do not drink wine, nor use music. Their place of worship will accommodate several hundreds of people. Every seventh day the king (Caliph) sits on high, and speaks to those below saying, ' Those who are killed by the enemy will be born in heaven above; those who slay the enemy will receive happiness.' Therefore they are usually valiant fighters. Their land is sandy and stony, not fit for cultivation; so they hunt and eat flesh."
almost everything we know about modern surgery came from the arab world during the islamic golden age.
surgery was done in India long before the "islamic golden age"
medical surgery was done in India long before the "islamic golden age"
>A man 1000 years ago is responsible for "modern surgery"
Yeah, nah.
" He even describes over 200 different surgical instruments. It is said that almost 90% of surgical instruments being used today were demonstrated by Abulcasis."
go to bed Ping.
>It is said
by whom...?
havent read a book on it, but the point was that someone made the claim arabs had no contribution to science and I would protest because they really did help
Prefer Averroes, possibly because he was Andaluzian.
On the Arabs [Dashi to the Chinese], compiled from the records of Du Huang, who was a POW in the Abbasid Caliphate following the Battle of Talas.
"The Dashi (Arabs) were originally under the rule of Anxi (Persia). The men have high noses, are dark, and bearded. The women are very fair [white] and when they go out they veil the face. Five times daily they worship Tianshen [lit. Heavenly God]. They wear silver girdles, with silver knives suspended. They do not drink wine, nor use music. Their place of worship will accommodate several hundreds of people. Every seventh day the King (Caliph) sits on high, and speaks to those below saying, ' Those who are killed by the enemy will be born in heaven above; those who slay the enemy will receive happiness.' Therefore they are usually valiant fighters. Their land is sandy and stony, not fit for cultivation; so they hunt and eat flesh."
"Kufa is the place of their capital. Its men and women are attractive in appearance and large in stature. Their clothing is handsome, and their carriage and demeanor leisurely and lovely. When women go outdoors, they always cover their faces, regardless of whether they are noble or base. They pray to heaven five times a day. They eat meat [ even] when practicing abstention, [for] they believe the taking of life to be meritorious."
"The followers of the religion of the Dashi have a means to denote the degrees of family relations, but it is degenerated and they don’t bother about it. They don’t eat the meat of pigs, dogs, donkeys and horses, they don’t respect neither the king of the country, neither their parents, they don’t believe in supernatural powers, they perform sacrifice to heaven and to no one else. According their customs every seventh day is a holiday, on which no trade and no cash transactions are done, whereas when they drink alcohol, they are behaving in a ridiculous and undisciplined way during the whole day.”