Why are leftists so good at war?

>french revolution
>leftist
In today's world, they would be considered libertarians.

So? They literally defined the left/right dichotomy. These people are leftists.

>They literally defined the left/right dichotomy.
For that time

>These people are leftists.
Not in the modern sense.

They were fighting for equality. They're leftists.

Their platform is usually popular with more people, giving them numerical superiority, and they care less about morality or human rights, specially since they have a pass by intellectuals to kill everyone if it is in their interests, a pass that rightists don't have.

Intellectuals are naturally drawn to leftism, so they have better organization skills. Besides, they reject conservatism and traditional hierarchies, making them more open to tactical innovations and to promote officers based on merit instead of birth.

>they never did
German lands experienced a massive nationalist movement within those wars. The battle at Leipzig had German forces in the French army switching sides mid-battle because they no longer wanted to shoot at other Germans

so what your saying is why are Russians so good at war?

>because they no longer wanted to shoot at other Germans

Rather because the French side was violently outnumbered and stood no chance to win
German pragmatism

>They were fighting for equality. They're leftists.
Whatever, purple-hair. I'm too tired to argue with SJWs.

france had a lot of fucking people

mixed race mongrels are good at destroying stuff

Nice meme answer
At the time OP pic was taking place, France had 26 millions of people
Meanwhile, the HRE had 24 millions, Russia 21 millions, Prussia 11 millions, Spain 10.5 millions, Britain 10 millions and the Netherlands 6.5 millions
In 1vs1 against another country, France would have been advantaged by its big population but the coalition easily nullified that

This. They're good at destroying but not sustaining or creating.

Fuck this reasoning, you cant equate the french revolution to being leftist right now.

What kind off shitty projecting is this.

Staunch belief in the ideals they were fighting for VS peasants fighting for no real cause but their landlord told them to. Men (and God spare them if they must ever take up the sword) women with reason, loyalty, and passion for their cause will always fight harder than anyone else on the Earth.

france had a lot of people AND it was willing to use them

it's no secret that france had a massive fucking army thanks to the levee en masse and the coalitions were incapable of doing the same

so i guess you can say that leftists are good at wars because they're willing to sink to depths that normal people wouldn't

/leftypol/ trying to claim classical liberalism has anything but tangential ties to socialism or Marxism.

Not him, but they were all the most radical leftist movements of their time.

Why do libertarians always engage in obscene historical revisionism?

No one said anything about Marxism or socialism. Leftism predates these concepts.

Proudhon and Fourier were the most radical leftists of their time.

Yes yes, subterfuge is so wonderful when you're doing it for your precious political feelsies.

Kys

Take out your tinfoil hat, retard, not everyone who disagrees with you is from cripplechan.

>because they're willing to sink to depths that normal people wouldn't

Except the reason why the coalition couldnt imitate the French levee en masse is because they were afraid to arm their people
Looks like oppressors can't trust their people to the same extend as a popular government

Nice regurgitated party line the /leftypol/ thread told you to spin.

Reported.

Enjoy your ban for false report.

kys leftycuck

>Except the reason why the coalition couldnt imitate the French levee en masse is because they were afraid to arm their people
exactly, they were unwilling to sink to the depths of leftist barbarity

Leftists want to ban guns though

shut up you stinky butt

It's because they know better for the proletariat than the proletariat does.

Most leftists are just manchildren who really really want to impose their vision of an 'ordered universe' via bootheel to everyone's faces, not altogether different to natsocs but more autistic and less racialist.

The term leftist literally comes from the French Revolution you piece of shit

And they were AFTER the revolution. Utopian socialists like Proudhon were directly inspired by revolutionary thinkers like Babeuf.

>Why are leftists so good at war?

Because war is inherently political. Where leftism is successful, it tends to demonstrate strong political leadership. War is an instrument of policy and thus leftist states that successfully achieve their goals domestically sometimes have this translated into success abroad through war.

Additionally, the objective of many leftist movements is generally not a nebulous preservation of a status quo, but rather a goal to change it. Because they focus on this goal, they know whom and when to fight, whereas reactionaries literally have to react. The left has the offensive initiative.

>bootlicking piece of shit calling somebody else a cuck

Liberal economic policies aren't helping you. You're just a useful idiot for the elite.

>says the faggot who whats to put white people into camps

>The left has the offensive initiative.
This is true, but works against them at least as often as it's an advantage. In Iran, for instance, leftists and commies teamed up with the Khomeini people and successfully ousted the regime, but then they all got purged by the better-organized religious faction.

>I'm wrong so I can only yell at a strawman

Lets see
>leftypol supports soros
>leftypol supports uncontrolled non white """immigration""" by """refugees"""
>leftypol worships black supremacism
>leftypol supports BLM
>leftypol members donated to BLM
>leftypol believes that white homogeneity is the supporting pillars of "traditional values" thus needs to be destroyed to bring about their "revolution"
>leftypol supports the """"migrants""""
Leftypol is SJW as they come

Leftypol doesn't give a shit about Soros or immigration. It's not a liberal board.

When Soros is every discussed, it's in negative terms due to his efforts to rig elections against socialists and communists in Eastern Europe.

You probably also think they voted for Hillary over Trump.
Have you ever been there or are you just regurgitating shit you heard on /pol/?

Except they don't?

Nobody cares about Soros except for you guys.

You just described liberals. Leftists hate liberals more than you guys do.

t. Leftist but not from leftypol

Also, the fact that you two are coming from your respective hugbox politics communities to try to "convert" people on Veeky Forums really shits on this board and I would like to politely ask you both (/pol/ and /leftypol/) to cut it out for the sake of saving one of the best boards currently on Veeky Forums from going to shit.

You SJWs are so pathetic with all this shilling

>image crying about /pol/
>the post is a fasle flag on /leftypol/
why are you SJWs such rats?

French fought against authority, leftists fight FOR authority.
And please, stateless communism...
Even marx didnt believe in it.
In todays world less gov is considered right togheter with market economy etc. While more regulations and more nannystate is considered left because as we all know all leftists are babies

A big population doesn't necessarily equate to a large military either.

same reason fascists are.
>you have to fight for us to defeat [insert current enemy here]

Fascists are SHIT at war.

Commies are good, but the greatest killing machine is liberal democracy.

IN THE END IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER.

>one thread over a year ago

Really makes you think

...Marx spent his life advocating for stateless communism

>it's a people get hyped because of a wiki screencap without actually knowing anything about the proceedings of that war edition

>Leftists
You are very confused. Every "Leftist" revolution in history has been immediately co-opted by right wing men--the only actual kind of men.

Look at Joseph Stalin and tell me that guy was a Leftist. He was not an ideologically driven beta assmad about how unfair capitalism was, he was a warlord and mobster who wanted more power. Literally the same with Mao, Castro, etc. The French Revolutionaries made a big fuss about all their progressive values--then they were immediately taken over by some Corsican guy who declared himself Emperor, dressed up like a king, put his brother in charge of Spain and basically continued acting like an Imperialists, marching of all the good little progressives to freeze to death in Russia so that he could build another arch in Paris.

Your mistake is looking at Leftism as a political movement instead of a disease that afflicts society and opens them up to takeover by primal forces. All primal forces are intrinsically right wing.

There's nothing I love more than Leftists LARPing over an imaginary future in which anyone is going to a Gulag, while they are literally a protected class that the Elite keeps around as useful idiots to beat up anyone who resists them.

You could go out into the street with a copy of The Communist Manifesto right now and just read verses off of it in a Commissar uniform and while you might get some looks, mostly you'd get virtue-signalling whites clapping as you blubber off nonsense about how accepting a wage from an employer is the same as being robbed or about taking pride in your work being impossible because you don't own the business or some other nonsense. You'd get a Huffington Post article about how brave you are. When a Ukranian man whose father lived through the Holodomr calls you a murderous faggot, CNN and MSNBC would describe you as a "peaceful demonstrator" being criticized by a racist redneck.

Now, go get a copy of Mein Kampf (a book that killed 1/10th as many people) and an SS Uniform. Go do the same thing. See what happens. Then realize that "Porky" owns all the news outlets, all the media outlets, all the cultural outlets, all the newspapers, all the websites. Anyone who believes that being a LARPy commie is scarying "Porky" out of his boots is ignoring the facts: If the big bad Capitalists wanted you gone they'd have simply applied 1/10th the pressure to you that they apply to the Right.

But they don't. Because /Leftypol/ is a dog on a leash. A stupid dog whose antics are entertaining, and whose pretensions of righteousness make it useful to sic on inconvenient pests.

Except the French victory in the Revolutionary Wars was indeed impressive, no matter how you look at it

>Implying something wrong with killing millions of people for the good of the nation

Liberation in Europe was predominately left-wing in origin

>mfw the second post's irony is still lost on /pol/
Not surprised since irony died on /pol/ a long time ago but still

What's libertarian about equality and fraternity?

Yet Stalin his life fighting for the ideals of communism. Same with Mao and Castro.

Strength and decisiveness and are not right-wing attitudes no matter how much you want them to be.

>mfw nobody will ever top the nazis as the biggest, most spectacular failures of the modern world

This is completely backward.

Right-wing militants occupied federal land for weeks. The government did nothing. White supremacist infiltration into local police departments is well known. The government does nothing.

On the contrary, leftist militancy has historically been met with the federal jackboot. Look at the efforts to suppress Black working class radicalism in East Coast cities, most egregiously in the murder of Fred Hampton and bombing of the MOVE compound in Philadelphia. Cointelpro efforts work expressly to sabotage leftist organization in America. Just this year, Native efforts against corporate seizure, supported by large numbers of American leftists, were met by state violence at Standing Rock.

>Egalité

nope

>Right-wing militants occupied federal land for weeks. The government did nothing.
Because that was the correct response. Waiting them out lead to mass surrender, assaulting right wing militants in the past has led to fucking bloodbaths. It is the job of the police to avoid those, so they did.

I agree to some extent with your analysis, but...

>right wing men--the only actual kind of men.

False. The classical liberal master race > right wing plebs. Modern wars are decided by technology more than anything else, and classical liberal republics are the best places for scientific innovation. Right-wingers do well cannibalizing the fruits of previous, more liberal periods, but then their societies stagnate and get outcompeted by freer societies. All the right-wingers you mentioned failed to create conditions of true innovation in their countries, and their countries developed better after they died.

It was somewhat libertarian at the beginning, but then it was taken over by typical authoritarian cultists (leftist, rightist, doesn't really matter... same shit).

Well, not "all", I should say... we don't yet know about Castro, but my guess is that it will follow the same sort of path

>You could go out into the street with a copy of The Communist Manifesto right now and just read verses off of it in a Commissar uniform and while you might get some looks, mostly you'd get virtue-signalling whites clapping
Try that in the 1950s and see where it gets you.

good at killing their own people

You're not wrong. I'm happy that capitalists are doing a good job squishing the rightist roaches... capitalism sucks, but it's 100000000 times better than communism or right-wing authoritarianism.

>white pride is bad
>but black pride is ok
why are leftists hate white people?

>the leftist is happy that opposing ideologies are supressed
proof that leftypol are literal SJWs

It's about ideology, not race.

>the leftist says this while defending black supremacist kids who kidnapped a mentally disabled white kid

I'm not even the guy you asked the question to, I just felt obligated to point out something blatantly obvious rather than allow for race-baiting.

>This is completely backward.

Yeah, remember that guy from mozilla who got fired from his job because he supported fag """marriage"""?
Or that university professor whose career got destroyed for saying we're all equal despite 0 evidence for ti?
Me neither

the second post supports treating "porkys" who support mass non white immigration better than those who don't, leftypol

I'm not happy that "opposing ideologies" are suppressed. I'm happy that dangerous authoritarianism is suppressed.

>leftist
>leftypol
Actually read my comments for fuck's sake. I'm not a leftist, I'm a classical liberal.

Also, I meant "squishing roaches" metaphorically - actually, I was making fun of right-wingers on /pol/ who talk about Pinochet helicopter flights and such, which disgusts me. I think that violent authoritarians should be "squished" in the sense that they should be given fair trials and then imprisoned if necessary, not tortured/raped/murdered... (unlike what leftist and rightist authoritarians would do).

>When a Ukranian man whose father lived through the Holodomr calls you a murderous faggot, CNN and MSNBC would describe you as a "peaceful demonstrator" being criticized by a racist redneck.

Jesus Christ, could you possible exaggerate any more? What kind of fever dream world do you live in where CNN defends Communism and denies the Holodomor? It seems to me that you're some rightist that cries everyday about how much of a persecuted special snowflake you are. Actually turn on the TV or go outside for once and see what the real world actually looks like.

>What kind of fever dream world do you live in where CNN defends Communism and denies the Holodomor?
election 2016

Reminder
documentcloud.org/documents/3254239-Russia-Hacking-report.html
Russian agents are among us
Suffer not the /pol/ack

trump won, you anti white SJWs lost.

>Read the report
>Literally 0 evidence
As usual, the Left got BTFO and has no evidence to support its unrealistic claims.

Feels good to watch criminals lose.

>It seems to me that you're some rightist that cries everyday about how much of a persecuted special snowflake you are.

I'm sure you're used to people acting like leftists.

White pride movements are inherently about asserting whiteness over others, either through genocide, Jim Crow, or the deportation of all non-whites. Black pride movements emerged as way to celebrate a maligned identity. In this way, it's generally about pushing back against existing oppression than reinforcing oppression.

That doesn't mean all black pride is okay. The Nation of Islam and the New Black Panthers are black supremacist groups which seek to oppress others. They're fascistic organizations and should be opposed.

>Trump wants to reduce immigration, doesn't even talk about white pride
>"HE RACIST! FUCK WHITEY"
>white pride is clearly the problem

Liberalism is bunk.

Capitalism requires constant market expansion to prosper, yet we live on a finite planet. With capitalism we will inevitably hit a Malthusian wall and fall hard.

Trump tweets blatantly false statistics of race and crime and wants to ban all immigration from Muslim countries.