Nubian dynasty

WE WUZ ROMANS N SHIT

...because the notable rulers of the Kushite Kingdom were also the rulers of the Nubian Dynasty back when Kashta united the two kingdoms?

All the famous rulers of Kush were also Egyptian Pharaohs.
>Kashta
>Shabaka
>Taharqa.

Pic related Taharqa left the qtest Sphinx.

that's a fair point, but you got to admit most people who are going full we wuzian with the nubian dynasty don't even know Kush existed

Wewuzism in general tend to stem from fabricated history aimed at a certain agenda.

They are the most notable rulers that we know of mainly because no-one really looks into Kush that much, it's mainly placed on maps as the origin of the Nubian dynasty of Egypt.
To be fair a constant vassal state with a few periods of independance might not sound that intersting.

Why deny Egyptians were black? Look at pic related. It's obvious they were black.

>most people
All five of them?

das rite

Well there's nobody on Veeky Forums who believes "egyptians were black"

There are people who wewuz about greece and rome though.

Why are you so desperate to paint Egyptians as caucasians. Is it because deep down you are the one who thinks you were kangz n shit?

>latinos aren't white but Egyptians are in Africa weren't black

well that's mostly because every single state after rome claimed to be a roman sucescors state. And rome claimed to be a greek succesor state

never said anything about Egyptians being caucasian, that's just as retareded as saying they are black. caucasian litteraly means near the caucasus.
They clearly aren't black either is all I'm saying so stop trying to force that we wuzian shit on this board.

>Caucasians
You mean like Armenians?

>africa discussion turns into kangz discussion
never change Veeky Forums

I'm not black but I see the hypocrisy of people who make the we wuz king meme because they say black people are from west africa but at the same time claim roman and greek achievements. Explain to me how is it not the same.

>latinos aren't white
Why are Americans retarded?

Not him, but I'm going to try to explain it to you: we can talk about European civilization, European culture. A notion that something like that exists is present ever since the Roman times.

Meanwhile, one African civilization or African culture is non-existent. Even the very concept of "Africa" was in fact created by Europeans and forced upon Africans.

tldr those two words aren't really equal

Not him either, but "we can talk about European civilization, European culture." is a very unsure statement. In some ways we can, in others we can't.

Also, I think he was referring to Romans and Greeks not being nords.

I don't think anyone is claiming that Greeks were Nords, other than baiters and complete retards.

Either way, both Greeks and Nords would claim they're white, but Egyptians sure as fuck don't claim to be black.

>I think he was referring to Romans and Greeks not being nords.
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

there is a big difference between living on former roman lands and trying to assimilate that culture in your own so you can claim to be a succesor state for prestige. Then it is claiming an ancient nation was something it clearly wasn't just so you can feel better about it.
Why claim Egypt was black when it wasn't and there are actual black kingdoms of the time you could look into instead.

Noone in real life is, I meant on Veeky Forums.
You are right and that's why we can talk about a Euro monolith in this way.

Imo you can split africa in a similar way Europe and Asia are separated

claiming Egyptians where black is as stupid as claiming the Appache where Russian

>you can split Africa
It should be. Originally the word "Africa" referred only to the coastal areas north of the Sahara, not shit like Ghana and Nigeria.

Not to mention than in the ancient days Egypt wasn't even considered African but Asian.

They were middle eastern brown skinned people. MENA people btw are really underrepresented in American media and even then they are usually portrayed as terrorist. It's strange that no one finds replacing MENA people with blacks (who have a much better representation) offensive.

but I thought Americans followed the one drop rule.

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>and there are actual black kingdoms of the time you could look into instead.
True, but these threads still get bombarded with "we wuz kangs." Not your fault, but anything having to do with the Negro is vehemently attacked, be it fact or a flight of fancy.

Got to love we can't have a single thread about Egypte with it devolving to WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET

>And rome claimed to be a greek succesor state
I thought they claimed to be Troy's successor state as part of the anti-Greek propaganda piece known as the Aeneid.

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And before you start, the Sphinx is carved from living rock, so the strata have different hardnesses and decay at different rates.

Rome made many claims in their early days, from we wuz Etruscan, to we wuz greeks, to we wuz Troy etc. You name it and they prob claimed it at one time (expect maybe Persia)

It kinda is the fault of whoever was dumb enough to force this Egypte was black agenda. Now you can't say anything about a northern african black kingdom with it devolving into Egypte was black, WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET.

Like always it was the Americans. To Americans Asian = yellow and African = black. Some Americans are literally unable to comprehend someone can be African while not being black, it's like an alien concept to them.

It's no different than people going "we wuz greeks/romans"

Already been explained here:

I blew a lot of people's minds with Freddy Mercury being Tanzanian.

the only ppl who keep bringing it up here are you know

Not true. Go to any black Facebook page and mention Egypt.

the thing is the people who claim to be we wuz romans live on former roman ground. The people who claim we wuz kangz don't even live on Egyptian ground

>If you go to this specific place and talk about this specific topic people will respond in this specific way
That doesn't excuse bringing up WEWUZ in every thread on Veeky Forums though just because people elsewhere, who LITERALLY never come here, will say it.
You don't go out of your way to shitpost 2chan memes here, why go out of your way to post afrocentrist memes when they are just as irrelevant?

Then why are latino people mocked when they claim to be westerners when latinos even descend from the people who colonized the land.

The Grio is one of the largest online news sources for blacks

thegrio.com/2014/12/12/exodus-gods-and-kings-continues-hollywoods-lineage-of-prejudice/

>Scott’s choice of predominantly white, European actors to play the title roles of ancient Egyptian kings and queens (Ancient African royalty)
>Detractors may argue, “Aren’t most modern day Egyptians Arab or white-looking anyway?”
>To them, my response would be, “What does the race of modern people have to do with the ancient, native inhabitants of these lands?”
>Modern scientists, anthropologists and scholars have by and large all dismissed the theories of “Dynastic Race,” which asserts the Ancient Egyptian rulers were people from the Mediterranean or Mesopotamia, and have agreed the Ancient Egyptians were an indigenous black African people

The entirety of black America tends to get its collective jimmies rustled everytime an Egyptian is portrayed as a non-black.

Because Spaniards are all just bleached Moors.

>Spaniards are moors but Egyptians aren't black

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm done here.

No, no, you don't get it.
Spaniards are Black because we hate them for harrying our supply lines, privateering our ships, and funding Catholic terrorists, so they can't be white, and the Moors were there, so they're Moors.
Egyptians aren't Black because we don't need them to be Black to colonize them, just dark, and they are.

>The Grio is one of the largest online news sources for blacks
Yeah man tell me what news sources that black people read ( LMAO, implying niggers read news. You'd be hard pressed to get them to watch it. They listen to that shit, mostly from word of mouth from people who do watch it)

Why does it seem like /pol/ racism is just projecting the actions of a minority onto the majority?
>Some athiests are fedora wearing turboautsists that means most of them are
>A few blacks are afrocentrists that means most of them are

Fuck you just listed off a news article like niggers read that shit when they can barely pay attention in school.

Fuck all that though, post a damn source showing that the majority of blacks even read that website. I've literally never heard of it before and I live around blacks.

>calling people illiterate niggers
>in the same post have the gall to call me /pol/

>Calling someone /pol/
>Makes a post that could just as easily been copied of /pol/
Wew lad

Point is most blacks aren't obnoxious wewuzers, and only bring it up if you bring the topic up.
I've literally see /pol/ spout WEWUZ more than the people they are trying to make fun of.
It's like a an autistic kid thinking he's funny making retard noises all the time. The only thing you're doing is making everyone think you're the retarded one because you're doing it far more than the actual tards you're trying to make fun of.

they smoked some pot and did some things whilst the whiteys were off doing other stuffs

>rome claimed to be a greek succesor state

top kek, well meme'd desu desu

Here, the king is in the Osiris pose. Osiris the god of the afterlife and dead who was often depicted black. Pic is the same king on a wall painting

big lips, bulbous nose but whatever this got boring already.

I can tell you that

THEY

Some egyptians were black though, it was a multicultural hub and mixed raced society.

I feel that Nubia itself is more interesting than the short lived, yet influential, Nubian dynasty in Egypt.

Also I'm assuming you mean the 25th dynasty?

Because Nubians intermarried with Egyptians frequently which lead to some mixed race dynasties

t. guy who doesn't know what he's talking about

why are you pitting races aqainst each other?

>A notion that something like that exists is present ever since the Roman times.

There was no such thing as "european" in roman times you stupid stormfag.

People like yyou are the literal opposite side cancer to the deshawn jamal's we wuz egyptians an shieet

Mali is pretty cool too. Or was until some guy bankrupted the country on a roadtrip and somehow managed to crash the price of fucking gold. Actually, that's still kind of cool.

Yes there was. Read Augustine sometimes you cock gobbler.

I don't get this.. Rome and ancient Greece actually waz kangz 'n quaiiins, weren't they?

Yeah. It's a civilization which emerged independently of Egypt at Kerma (Egyptianisation came later), even earlier than Europe's first civilization in Crete. Later in Meroe it continued an independent Pharaonic civilization well after the conquest of Egypt until the 4th century AD. You'd think stuff like that would get some attention, but instead everyone just focuses on the one brief period when they wuz kangs n shit.

It baffles me how people in such threads can whine and moan over artistic depictions to "prove" the race of ancient peoples.
Artistic liberties are always taken and especially colours tend to be symbolic and function more as sex colour coding than anything else.
There was another thread about such shit and I posted a link to an actual, scientific, forensic reconstruction of an ancient person's face.
Guess what happened.
It was buried under 100 posts about WEWUZ NORDICS BECAUSE THIS STATUE HAZ BLOND HAIR

HAVE

SO YOU BE SAYIN

They were kings.

Ramses III was a redhead.

To be honest, I am more interested in Kingdoms of Makuria and Alodia than about Pharaonic Nubians.

Add Nobatia in that.
In general, Christian history of that region is to me more interesting than pre-Christian one.

it's just stormfags WE WUZing don't let it get to you

muh /pol/
muh stormfags

>implyin this board isn't full of meme spouting /pol/acks derailing every serious discussion with their ((()))s and their circlejerk glossary at hand

>muh muh

What if I just hate blacks and don't browse /pol/

>W-what if I'm not an infilitrator attempting to crusade/proselytize le innocent masses on le 4chen board like the rest of my kin

Fascists belong in the guillotine.

Then you are just shitposting.

to discuss your feelings on race.
>Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

I don''t browse /mlp/, but if I started posting horse porn that's where I'd be told to go.

Stop posting horse porn.

Fuck off

I'm a neo-nazi but there's a time and a place for everything

back to your anti whiter safe space, leftypol

Westerners are shit and you people will never understand Northeast African history because you think Black means Nilotic and everyone else was Arab.

People only want to call us "brown" when it's useful. The basis of Nile River civilizations is founded in the great dedication and formation of the Sahara after the Neolithic Subpluvial. It is part of a larger history of the "Saharan Pump"
Nubia and Egypt are both rooted in Nabta Playa and Nubia/Upper Egypt is foundational in many cultural, pharonic and developmental institutions that are seen as hallmarks of Egyptian society.

It was from lime paste. My grandmother used it back in Western Ethiopia/Eastern Sudan. It makes hair red or blonde and loosens the texture of hair.

Pacific Islanders also used it.