Battle of Ayacucho, 1824

>Battle of Ayacucho, 1824
>The last 5,800 Peruvian Patriots vs 9,000 Spanish Royalists
>Spanish held high ground, all of their best officers on the field, viceroy of Peru as general
>Patriots diminished after weeks of being chased through mountains, no artillery, led by a young lieutenant
>Spanish began by pressing hard on Peruvians with cavalry, rushing down exposed slopes in disorganised battle formations
>Seeing this, cavalry general jumps off his horse, shoots it in the head, and tells his fellow officers to do the same: "there should be no opportunity to escape"
>He then ordered his men to pick up their lances, and stand firm against the next cavalry charge
>Not only did the patriot centre hold, they CHARGED UPHILL, decimating Spanish horses and rushing their artillery positions
>Uphill retreat of royalist troops lead to even more fatal confusion and dissaray
>Masses of Spanish infantrymen couldn't recapture the artillery, which were now being turned on them
>Royalist generals are being wounded and captured, Viceroy himself gets injured and surrenders
>Results: 1,900 Spanish dead and 2,500 POW vs 310 dead Peruvians
>End of Spanish presence in South America
>Spanish defeat so profound that returning officers are labelled "ayacuchos" by the public, who believe they lost deliberately.

The initial armies were 8500 rebels and 9300 royalists. I'm not going to continue reading after that biased second line.

> 5800 peruvian patriots
Erm....most of them were colombians, then there were peruvians, chileans and argentinians. Probably a few brit officers too.

That's bredddy awesum. Wish I knew more details of the South American wars of independence desu. All I really know is that they happened, and then Gran Colombia was a dream too beautiful to last. (And that Brasil then started shitting on everyone.)

>someone who doesn't check the wikipedia source
and nothing of value was lost.

If you must trust wiki, the page gives 2 numbers, the 8500 patriot number is the initial army, before attrition from marching through the mountains. 5800 was the number of those who fought in Ayacucho, its says so in the source.

>things that never happened.jpg

t. someone who doesn't study south american history

t.someone that believes post Bolivarian propaganda
You guys have no national identity and tried to create it with these meme myths.

the Veeky Forums pastebin file has an entry on the wars of independence with all the important and most useful books on the subject

any national identity is myth

gee i wonder who's behind this post

You forgot to mention.

>led by an Argentinian general.

Now fuck off, South America is a disgrace.

> post-bolivarian
get a load of this faggot
as if Chavez wrote history books

>Spanish held high ground
>¡No lo hagas peruano, tengo la tierra alta!

All you need to know is that while the US made Washington president and basically turn him into a national god our revolutionary leaders all ended up dead poor in foreign lands.

Some with more miseries than others in between.

This is the story of parts of central america too.

For US citizens: Imagine if George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were all put to a firing squad in 1777. Imagine that Benedict Arnold achieved American independence, pronouncing himself Emperor Benedict I, banning all religions except the Church of England, and concentrating land ownership in the hands of a few elite families—and you have some idea of the revolutionary outcomes in the rest of America.

When countries in South American celebrate independence day, they're usually trying to celebrate independence from the mistakes of the past.

>Existe un debate en torno a las cifras de combatientes ya que la cifra de realistas del parte de batalla de Sucre se tomó en realidad del listado militar español capturado con el número de hombres al salir del Cuzco. Pero hay que tener presente que unos y otros comenzaron la campaña con un estado inicial de fuerza de ejércitos (8500 independientes vs. 9310 realistas) que disminuyeron su número en las semanas siguientes de campaña, hasta mismo el día de la batalla (5780 independientes vs. 6906 leales) por las razones expuestas anteriormente.
The royalist side also fought with less numbers.

The only way that Peruvians could hold a chavalry charge downhill would be if the horse jumped over them.

>Imagine if George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were all put to a firing squad in 1777

boner achieved

(t. redcoat)

Are you counting Mexico as central america? Because Mexico's case is particularly barbaric in nature and thank fuck not exactly representative of the rest of the latin american region.

Yes, Mexico is definitely one of the worst cases.

This is why battle formations are extremely fucking important.

desu the spanish were more ragtag than the rebels at this point.

Imagine being a royalist, fighting for a country that (at the time) no longer exists in a foreign land where nobody likes you.

Pretty much a Star Wars post ep6 situation from the imperial perspective.

>9,000 Spanish Royalists
Most of them were conscripted natives from the highlands, the spaniards or the white peruvians were often the high officers
This, in the peruvian war of independence the royalist were mostly peruvians and the rebels were people from all over South America. This is because the independence of Peru was largely carried out by their neighbors since unlike Argentina or Colombia, around half of the peruvian population didn't wanted independence, the peruvian independence war was more like a civil war with the help of the newly formed South American countries who saw as a danger the presence of a Spanish bastion in South America.

>tfw San Martin wasn't crowned emperor of Argentina, Chile, Bolivia and Peru

>tfw the united Latin America empire dream died before it was born.

if that would've happened, they would have crowned a cuzco, that is, a descendant from the inca royal line since they were "restoring" the greater inca empire

>greater Incan Empire
>Argentina

>peruvian patriots
that's not how you spell neogranadine soldiers, young Quispe