Hey maybe the council should fix this road >REEEEEEE Maybe the government should help poor people who fall on hard times >REEEEEEE I heard the council is going to put up that crossing over the motorway we've been asking for >REEEEEEE
All the fags that want AnCap now would be the first ones to beg to get rid of it should it get implemented.
Tyler Fisher
Statism has to be the most retarded one. Leftism is a disease what we need to get rid off.
Grayson Torres
>be NEET >walking down the public sidewalk to return books to library >white van screeches to a halt beside me >ancap throws me inside >drives me to secret DRO sharia court >the honorable Murray "babymarket" Rothbard sentences me to liberty™-brand debt slavery for aggravating against my circumcised overlords >forced to provide unprotected anal sex in a Somalian gay brothel until I can pay off the debt owed in privately minted tender over which my creditor has monopolistic control of supply >thank god for the NAP
Dominic Cook
>this thread
Anarchism in general is fucking retarded
Daniel Campbell
It's just another irelevant iteration of liberalism, new worlders developed.
Robert Diaz
>the majority of capital is owned by a small amount of people >they use this as leverage to extract even more money from renters and employees >the only options most have are to either make more money for capitalists or to starve on the streets This is fine
>government redistributes some of your money to poor people REEE DON'T TREAD ON ME
Juan Smith
Not even an ancap but if you want to help the poor, do so on your own dime.
Oliver Davis
Yes, yes it is
Agreed,
Anarcho-Primitives want to literally go back to the Cro-Magnon Caveman Big Dick days and live in their own shit
Anarcho-Communists are wide-eyed SJW morons who believe in literal mob rule
Anarcho-Capitalists hate roads, love heroin, and are generally fucking retarded
Look into your heart, you know I'm right.
Dylan Martinez
>in ancap nobody is stopping you from giving your money away, in socialism government literally takes your money away by force
hmmm... really cooks my neurons
Easton Lopez
Can't tell if trolling or just alt-right dickhead
Jack Baker
>cannot distinguish socialism from communism >Ireland is socialist, North Korea is communist >Thinks Anarcho-Capitalism or Anarcho-anything can actually work on a societal level >Is probably a NEET who would die in any Anarchist society >doesn't realize that anarchism sucks and socialist democracy is the way to go
You sir, are a considerable faggot.
Brayden Jenkins
taxation is theft you animeshitter
Chase Long
If only non-assholes spend money on the the clinically retarded, the chronically ill and the crippled (all those guys that will never pay you back), soon assholes will have all the money. So it's better for the non-assholes and the runts of society that the cost of caring for the runts is split by both assholes and non-assholes, but non-assholes won't have it unless forced.
Isaac Diaz
>it's better
for you
Anthony Kelly
>I learn politics from memes
Good post
Jaxon Thompson
Taxation is necessary for a society to function, you fucking tard.
"The only constants in life are death and taxes." -Benjamin Franklin
Don't fuck with me. I'm a proud Bernie Bro and I'll kick your ass which is something your father should've done a long time ago.
Cameron Perry
if you like death like you do taxes, then go kill urself you gooklover
Brandon Fisher
The upper classes receive far more benefit from subsidies, public education, policing, infrastructure, protectionism and other government services than the poor take in welfare. A poorly treated workforce makes for an unmotivated and unproductive nation in the end.
>inb4 hurry police and public education benefit everyone
Yes, but most of all, they massively cut costs for private security and training respectively.
Samuel Gonzalez
The closest negative archetype I can come up with for Anarcho-Capitalists is Cleetus the Redneck. But even then, Cleetus would never want Anarchy, he serves 'Murica through his sister and rifle. There's hardly any Anarcho-Capitalists in actual real life, it's a meme, but it's way more reasonable than Anarcho-Communism/Primitivism, as Anarcho-Capitalists realise they would create a Neo-Feudal shithole but they're atleast honest about it.
Sebastian Reed
Dude, I don't like death, I just accept it as a necessity of life. Just like I do with taxation, you moron.
I used to do recon for the Almighty Gaylords street gang on the North Side of Chicago. Don't fuck with me.
Sayre Park Gaylords are badass and will kick your NEET AnCap ass down the street.
I'm a rock, I'm a stone, I'm a Gaylord to the bone.
Stone Greasers! 712 for life!
The Cross is Boss
Bentley Parker
>people will be more generous in a society that's even more focused on accumulation of capital >capitalists exploiting their control of land and money (and in ancapistan they'll own the courts, police and hospitals too) to make them do what they want and extract wealth from them isn't force
Connor Martin
Theft as a concept depends on property rights that are only enforced in a state framework with rule of law. Nobody is going to legally or militarily represent some fuckwit like you against bandits and power mad pseudo-aristocrats that would arise to replace the state.
Ayden Rodriguez
To be fair that was the feeling of most people before massive government welfare programs, that the ultra rich would give alms to the poor out of goodness and civic duty or that religious groups would provide for the poor while trying to convert them.
Charles Barnes
This
AnCaps are meth-smoking losers, and AnComs are edgy SJW hipsters who want Springfield-esque mob rule.
Social Democracy/Democratic Socialism is the way to go! You know I'm right.
Keep calm, vote for socialism, and support your local Almighty Gaylords!
712
Oliver Evans
And yet these breadcrumbs and working conditions were shirty enough that people felt communism was a good idea by the 19th century. The modern welfare state was literally invented as a necessity to stop violent revolution, and as a poor person myself I have no doubt similar chaos would ensue if my crackhead neighbours were suddenly denied any welfare at all.
Jace Price
Agreed, fuck AnCaps.
Spoken as a proud Bernie Bro and former Gaylord.
Stone Grease! 712 for life!
Ryder Long
Some "SJWs" are over the top, but the reaction to the movement has become so hysterically obsessed with online identity wars, meme politics and extreme emotions to the point that mere suggestion of social democratic ideas is conflated with a bogeyman caricature of reptilio-Sarkeesian-Marxism somehow. The alt right is not just some mirror flip of entry-level leftist media critics, but far worse, and fundamentally revolve around humor that normalizes genocidal ideologies and conspiracy theories. More analogous to radical Islam than anything.
Ethan Powell
Agreed, fuck the Alt-Right. Though SJW's also suck ass.
Milo Yiannopolous and Anita Sarkeesian are two sides of the same coin and both need to get their asses kicked.
Whether it's the left one or the right one, a boot on your neck is still a boot on your neck. Fuck tyranny, fuck the Alt Right and fuck Identity Politics.
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Samuel Clark
Damn right, at least Milo is entertaining though. Anita is a shrill harpy.
Adam Roberts
Is the alt-right even a big thing though? All I see is people shitposting on Twitter and the chans, it doesn't seem to be a 'thing' outside of that. As much as they like to claim they made Trump and Brexit happen they had minimal impact (and that's being generous).
You're close to turning the alt-right in the SJW boogeyman you mentioned.
Chase Baker
There's a lot of coverage in the media attempting to make it a thing, giving a lot of interviews to Richard Spencer in particular. As well, some people consider Steve Bannon, one of Trump's closer advisors, to be a member of the alt-right due to his time as Breitbart CEO.
Samuel Allen
Anti-SJW is a thing for a reason, they do have too much influence over media and education that does need to be called out. Though I have to admit, the more extreme elements of the anti-SJW crowd do conflate anything mildly 'left' with SJWism.
Kayden Morgan
Yes they are getting more exposure in the media but it doesn't mean it's a growing movement, Richard Spencer is widely (and rightly) considered a racist crank and outside of alt-right circles isn't even that well known. Stephen Bannon is an enigma, as far as I can tell he isn't alt-right himself but is willing to let them speak. After all many on the alt-right don't like his pro-Zionist views.
Jaxon Garcia
Yes it is.
So?...
Levi Ward
Of course it is, because it bases itself on universal respect of others' boundaries/feelings/financial status etc. All of it either enforced through mob rule or "pacts" or whatever. No form of anarchism would survive a day, it's literally nuking society to zero to allow a new ruling class to emerge. >muh statists >muh fascist state Bullshit, all of it, you can't expect people to not want to fuck you over.
Kevin Phillips
>taxation is theft you animeshitter Why is it that I only ever hear this from middle class-rich people whose grasp on politics and societary functions in general is "muh stuffs, don't touch 'em, this is, like, fascism oh my gaah"?
Ayden Perez
Woah
Nicholas Stewart
I agree with you. I was giving the only examples of the media "making it a thing" that I could think of. Really the alt-right is contained to internet and news organizations.
Wyatt Mitchell
Libertarian Nationalism is the best ideology
Camden Rivera
>Still believing in the taxation is theft meme
All I want is a mixed economy with strong borders.
Ryder Brown
This, so much this
Jack Wilson
You can believe ancap as your own personal moral code. The problem with ancap is that most people are to silly to handle such things. Half the population will eventually just decide as a collective to create a council to fix roads then theyll decide on a few figures the trust to run things they cant be bothered by. Ancap, anarchy and libertarianism to a degree will just revert back to inteventionism because people are just to silly.
Carson Edwards
>Local warlord is collecting debts >Spent all my Bitcoin on meth and hookers >ohshit.jpeg >Bound to be sent to the salt mines now >Look out the window and start to cry >The neighbours trash has blown on to my property which breaks the NAP >idea.png >Fire a TOW missile at my neighbours property >Steal his valuables and everything in his meth lab >Sell any surviors to the local slavers >Mfw
Christopher Cook
It's autistic but it sure is fun to talk about, AnCap theory provides good discussion and debates. Lots of right-libertarians and ancap are clearly on the spectrum, they have asperger voices.
Most autistic on a pure cringe political LARP level are first world """"communists"""" and antifa """""""anarchists"""""""", like holy shit the level cognitive dissonance and low IQ / mental disorder you have to have to operate within those circles is simply stunning
Logan Perry
>712 What do the numbers that street gangs throw out represent?
Levi Foster
How do we deal with the autism epidemic plauging our societies?
Evan Anderson
>it bases itself on universal respect of others' boundaries/feelings/financial status etc
I'm not an anarchist, but so does statism
Cooper Garcia
I'm a statist, but how exactly is taxation not theft? Admitting that taxation is theft doesn't make you an anarchist, or even a libertarian. I, for example, just accept it as a necessary evil, but it is still evil.
Wyatt Cox
Do people really always need to manufacture a nonsense reason people have a different views
Asher Rivera
Ancap is literally just tyranny of aristocrats
Brandon Foster
do something about the chans and reddit, they are obviously spreading the disease
Henry Lopez
And? Is that supposed to be a criticism of anarcho-capitalism?
John Evans
It's basically feudalism which has been re-branded.
Hudson Hall
No, statism, and indeed all kinds of government, bases itself on the monopolyo f force.
Jackson Sullivan
Tyranny is inherently bad
Wyatt Miller
Excuse my phone
Colton Reyes
It's only theft if you consider the state to be illegitimate, taxation is more like like a social contract.
Dominic Lee
This is what happen when right wingers misappropriates anarchism for their neo-fedualism tendencies
So is private property
Isaiah Barnes
But it's not
Sebastian Brooks
Ancap has to be the most retarded ideology since the "cap" part is completely fucking redundant. Any "Anarchy-something" is just so fucking stupid.
Andrew Roberts
Why?
But I didn't sign any social contract
Camden Rodriguez
This
Jayden Howard
Tyranny is bad because it's unsustainable, people don't like feeling stepped on, and there's more peasants than there are lords, you'll have to sleep sometime
Joshua Reyes
>people don't like feeling stepped on
But that's wrong
Leo Cruz
Then abandon its privileges and stay off public roads. You'll have to make money to pay for your healthcare yourself. Oh, and don't count on the police for help either.
Cooper Price
Eventually the peasants get pissed and rise up, this is how you get communism.
John Turner
Most people want to feel at least some control over their lives unless they're mentally damaged S&M bottoms, that's a pretty fringe minority
Luke Wood
>abandon its privileges but he'd still be arrested for not paying taxes >You'll have to make money to pay for your healthcare yourself or you can buy health insurance
Jaxon Lewis
The social contract is implicit with citizenship. You are free to revoke your citizenship and move to a different country. If you don't like taxes, move to Somalia.
But if you live in a society and want to benefit from said society, you're partly responsible for its upkeep.
Jayden Perry
Somalia has taxes and a government
Dominic Watson
The point is still a valid one, if you're going to be benefiting from citizenship of X nation you are partly responsible for it.
Robert Kelly
But the Somali government doesn't have a monopoly on force
Adrian Stewart
and if I dont want to what should I do
Brayden Foster
revoke your citizenship and move to Somalia or eastern Congo
Joseph Rogers
Go and stay go
Luke Moore
Other than laws, what is the difference between Somali police and the police in any other government?
Robert Wright
Somalia and eastern Congo have taxes. He should move to UAE, where only foreign banks and oil companies pay taxes
Landon Smith
But they also have government
Ayden Kelly
Then you've reached the point where a child keeps asking why because it wants to get all the toys and have its way and wants its fantasy, egotistical dreamland to become true.
Brayden Bennett
They don't have a monopoly on force, and they aren't good at using the force they have
Jackson Gonzalez
A faild state is still a state. I'm not an AnCap or even Libertarian, but Somalia argument is so stupid
Elijah Williams
Would you say the same if you canceled your Netflix account, but they kept giving you service and used that as justification to charge your bank account?
Joseph Peterson
A failed state is the closest thing on earth to an anarchist society, outside of the few neighborhoods in Athens
Angel Parker
Revoke your citiznship and move to a nation that more closely fits your ideals.
Bentley Long
Comparing Netflix to the services the government provides is retarded.
Daniel Stewart
Why?
Eli Murphy
>Infrastructure to maintain a humane standard of living, protection from crime and roads to travel on are like netflix ok
Logan Hill
I think you missed the point.
Benjamin Foster
The state provides essential needs such as a basic level of healthcare which at the most limited is used to prevent and contain epidemics, infrastructure to allow people to get to work and a social safety net to prevent extreme poverty (which can also lead to epidemics). Among other things.
Netflix is a luxury that allows you to watch House of Cards at the weekend.
Liam Hall
And?
Juan Hughes
> Don't fuck with me. I'm a proud Bernie Bro and I'll kick your ass which is something your father should've done a long time ago. Watch out, we've got an internet tough guy here.
Samuel Watson
Your argument was a bad one.
Gavin Taylor
area codes of their hood
So just fake your own death and live in the woods. fucking christ, you should be happy you have internet to shitpost on
Bentley Barnes
You wanna throw down, bro?
I used to roll with the Almighty Gaylords, both in Sayre Park on the North Side of Chicago and in Paducah, Kentucky.
Hell, I was one of the ones who brought the 712 to Wise, Virginia. This internet tough guy can lay your alt-right pussy-ass out.
God forgives, Gaylords don't. Cross is Boss.
Jose Flores
>misappropriates anarchism As if having anarchism is something to be proud of
Jason Diaz
>Jacques Ellul, a French philosopher and Christian anarchist, notes that the final verse of the Book of Judges (Judges 21:25) states that there was no king in Israel and that "everyone did as they saw fit".[8][9][10] Subsequently, as recorded in the first Book of Samuel (1 Samuel 8) the people of Israel wanted a king "so as to be like other nations".[11][12] God declared that the people had rejected him as their king. He warned that a human king would lead to militarism, conscription and taxation, and that their pleas for mercy from the king's demands would go unanswered.
Austin Rogers
>I used to roll with the Almighty Gaylords Yeah you're an almighty gaylord all right
Adam Gonzalez
Anarchism is retarded
Make fun of the name, but if you met one of the remaining Gaylords gangsters, you would shit your pants in fear. These guys are stone killers and based gentlemen. You fuck with them and you fuck with the best.
White flight and gentrification decimated a lot of their numbers in the 90's and 2000's, but the Gaylords are still around in some of the more blue-collar suburbs and hoods and are even more vicious, violent, and badass.
Plus, they're closely allied with the Latin Kings and the People Nation, so I wouldn't mess with them if I were you.