Why are Afro-Asiatic and Indo-European cultures so similar?
>polytheistic pantheons centered around a sky god >cattle worship >heavy use of dairy products >similar social values
This is a huge range of land spanning Africa to past India, and the similarities start dropping as soon as you enter another linguistic group's territory. Why?
Because they both spring from the same soil (Sumer).
Alexander Hall
Neither of them came from Sumer.
Carter Thomas
Retard.
Ayden Walker
I guess cattle and rain were important, so the religion centered around the divinites that provided those.
Cameron Watson
Non arguments
Brayden Hall
Because we come from the same source.
Kevin Perry
Wrong.
Indo-Europeans came from Eastern Europe.
Afro-Asiatics came from Northeast Africa.
Aaron Myers
>Polytheistic
So was nearly fucking everyone at the time, big surprise
>Cattle worship. Ancient people tended to attach religious significance to their main food source.
>Dairy To be bloody well expected considering the cattle worship.
>Sky god Cattle herding people tend to live inland on grasslands that are frequently flat plains, I'd expect them to worship a sky god and/or thunder god, as opposed to a sea god or a volcano god.
Ethan Hill
Then why did the Maya and Aztecs and Inca Mesoamericans worship rain so much? it hardly rains in Mexico and Central America.
Aiden Gonzalez
Somehow I don't believe that
Ryder Hernandez
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Henry Morgan
Because they're all Caucasian.
Kayden Moore
There's non Indo-European and Afro-Asiatic Caucasians
Dominic Smith
2/10
Aiden Young
Pretty sure some of that is theorized to be common proto Indo-european cultural ancestry.
The sky god is probably dyeus pater being remixed across cultures a la Zeus, Odin/thor, Tengri, etc.
Levi Watson
>it hardly rains in the rainforest fucks sake i bet the only reason you even know the mayas is because of the forgotten pyramids in the middle of the jungle use your brain idiot
Xavier Phillips
Eurasians pastoral people migrated into Africa in the neolithic, the climate in North Africa was suitable to steppe nomad lifestyles.
Sebastian Diaz
How cultures form: >what you have around you >put it together >... >culture
Jordan Ramirez
this
Asher Bennett
Where the hell did Afro-Asiatic come from anyway? I keep hearing Sudan but that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Aaron White
Chariots go really fast.
Elijah Barnes
Why not?
Joshua Cox
The spread of agriculture, specifically cattle, implies that people moved from the Middle East into Africa around the time Afroasiatic is supposed to have spread, and this is supported by genetic evidence. There's no evidence for a migration out of Sudan or Southeast Ethiopia across the Middle East and North/West Africa at the time.
The whole theory seems to be based on the idea that a language family must have originated where the most diversity in that language family is found. But that only works if you pretend the language family exists in a vacuum, completely ignoring the effects of history which might have wiped out countless languages in some areas while leaving them preserved in others. That's what I think is happening here; there's less language diversity in the Middle East because it's been the home of vast civilizations and seen countless migrations since ancient times which would assimilate and wipe out smaller languages, while places like Southeast Ethiopia were historically tribal and isolated, so language would remained diverse there.
Jose Perez
Eurasians migrated into Africa in the Neolithic, R1B V88 is tightly coupled to the Chadic branch of the language.
East Africans are like Mexicans, most Mexicans have European lineage on their Paternal side. The same occurred in East Africa.
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Lincoln Long
>Lake Megachad
Jaxon Parker
Indo-European Dyeus Pater IS the origin of Zeus, Tyr, and all those other IE chief sky gods.
Lucas Cooper
>Indo-Europeans came from Eastern Europe.
Than why the Indo? Obviously because they came from Indus to Europe, ya dunce.
Wyatt Walker
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Hudson White
>Eupedia
>look I posted some maps, that means you're wrong.
>because it's popular it's bad You stupid faggot IEs are associated with Yamnya, and that's in eastern Europe. It's called Indo-European because it spread from India to Europe.
Luke Walker
>There's no evidence for a migration out of Sudan or Southeast Ethiopia across the Middle East and North/West Africa at the time. Haplogroup E1b1b?
>called Indo-European because it spread from India to Europe
holy shit you are deluded
literally Sanskrit btfo you desu
Justin Wilson
Who's largely on both sides of the coin? J, R1B, T, G, and other E.
It's Afro-Asiatic, not Afro-Afro.
Robert Sanchez
>It's called Indo-European because it spread from India to Europe.
That was my point. I just get the feeling there's always some stormweenies pushing some Eurocentric origin of IE peoples.
Jeremiah Jones
>Eurocentric origin of IE peoples
they clearly originate from Central Asia.
Carter Lopez
The name is based on the present distribution of the languages.
Lincoln James
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M215_(Y-DNA)#Origins This seems to be much older than the period we're talking about, far older than it's realistic to expect a major language family to spread. Large language families only spread in agricultural or pastoral societies, hunter-gatherers like Australians have much more a patchwork of small language families and isolates. This haplogroup seems to predate agriculture by over ten thousand years though.
Eli Moore
>Large language families only spread in agricultural or pastoral societies, hunter-gatherers like Australians have much more a patchwork of small language families and isolates I don't think that's true. Afroasiatic languages are lacking in shared agricultural vocabulary. Uralic is another widespread language family without inherited agricultural vocabulary.
Josiah Jackson
>Celtic doesn't extend into the British Isles
I assumed it did.
damn, you are retarded.
Brayden Diaz
The gif stops at around 500 BC.
Jonathan Scott
mmmm wow
Elijah Morales
English failed me. When I mean "spread to India to Europe" I mean, from one location, to both of those. Not starting from India to then Europe.
IEs began in eastern Europe. Ethnically and culturally, Sri Lanka has just as much claim to the PIEs as Iceland. They were European geographically, but all IEs are just as IE.
Jack Ortiz
The early most sedentary plant cultivators in the middle east have clear associations with Northeast Africans. There were large and small cross migrations from Northeast Africa and Southwest Asia.
I'd also say cattle are forms of wealth and power, as such their prestige would be recognized by all who had access to them.
So cross pollination and cultural convergence
Justin Thompson
cuz its st0p;id nnewgirsss
Lincoln Gomez
Did East Asians worship bulls?
Sebastian Cook
No one worships bulls except /pol/
Aiden Peterson
how can the temple prostitutes even resist the bull