ITT:Controversial Veeky Forums oppinions

History is not to be viewed through the lens of any ethnicity or religion's success over another, but simply as the study of all that humanity has accomplished, both good and bad.

>official/mainstream view
>controversial

>ITT:Controversial Veeky Forums oppinions

>humanity
Kill yourself already.

>not acknowledging the fact of one's species

Are you one of those Otherkin or something?

The Byzantines are the continuation of the Roman Empire but I refuse to recognize so because they were too shit and filthy hellenes.

Plato was correct about democracy.

Race matters. A lot.

>Oh wait that's not controversial at all.
same with balks being salty eh

Why would balks be salty for being master race

Marx was irrelevant to the development of socialist movements

France is the cause of most of the suffering in Europe

The Russians were far worse than the Ottomans in how they treated conquered nations.

Benadict Arnold did nothing wrong

Hitler did nothing wrong, except for losing

African-americans should be thankfull for slavery because otherwise they would still live in a war-torn shithole somewhere in Africa.

Hungary is a cool nation.
Nationalism is fucking stupid, especially in developed nations.
Muslims are okay.
Morocco > Portugal and the world would be better off if Morocco took over Portugal's place.
Germany and Prussia are pretty boring nations.
Palestine > Israel.
The Vietnam war was lost by America.
The Red Army had better military doctrines than the Nazis by 1943.
The failure of the Cuban revolution is due to both Che and Castro, not Castro alone.
While Rome itself is interesting to study, large portions of it's history are boring as sin.

Woodrow Wilson's presidency was the most compelling tragedy of American history. Everyone should read about the man.

The Irish deserved it, and Michael Collins is a cuck.

Irish rebels were ISIS before it was cool.

I have hardly ever seen Hungary being discussed here. Have I missed something?

>The Vietnam war was lost by America.
By America to America.

Napoleon wasn't particularly successful, even if innovative.

New Atheist, even if not sophisticated or obnoxious, are more or less correct.

No, but that was the point of my post. We don't discuss it enough.
Loss=Loss

t. Mohammad

Any view of history that does not included the forces of sexism and racism in it's analysis is stupid.

Under included previous to 1970s. Over included since then.

This board is really good

No, I just think Morocco would have been more tolerant colonizers.

>controversial Veeky Forums opinions
try again

Saying that it is 'over-included' now just shows how ignorant this place is.

then why are you here

Octavian was both a superior ruler and more important for history than Caesar.

Hannibal Barca would have succeeded if the Carthaginian Senate had actually sanctioned and backed his private expedition.

The Greeks were unworthy successors to the Minoan cultural legacy.

The Saracens were a superior culture to the Byzantines, and more advanced in their scientific achievements, culture and living standards.

Genghis Khan is the greatest military leader that ever lived, unifying a band of ragtag nomadic tribes into the greatest Empire the world has ever seen.

Hjalmar Schacht and Heinz Güderian were the two geniuses behind Hitler's early success. He would have been a footnote in history without these two men.

The First Gulf War was the tidiest, best-planned military operation in human history, in terms of achieving its war aims with as little human cost as possible.

If by """Master""" race you mean outsiders are always your Masters then sure

There are more opinions possible beyond "JEWS RUN EVERYTHING KILL THE KIKES" and "it is impossible to talk of jews as a coherent ethnically-based political entity that sometimes puts the interest of said ethnic entity above the rest of the population."

The Ottomans kidnapped and castrated children.

"There once was a dream that was Rome"

>The Ottomans kidnapped and castrated children.
so did the Romans

>Morocco > Portugal and the world would be better off if Morocco took over Portugal's place.

>Octavian was both a superior ruler and more important for history than Caesar.
>controversial

The Vietnam War was a overwhelming success, it massively diminished communist power in in Southeast Asia.

Socialists are just as bad as fascists.

I don't even know what Fascism is any more, Its so ill defined and full of academic bias that researching about fascism is literally impossible to trust.

For instance half the citations on Wikipedia are by authors who self defined themselves as Cosmopolitan Anarchists, Avant-Garde Socalists, etc. with a degrees in art history and eng lit.

The "Anti-intellectualism" meme is an excuse to justify publishing a thousand papers on Marxist themes in Bambi every year.

SS Africa and everything about it is useless and pathic. No, there were not "good" SS African civilisations, they were utter shit. Black are just terrible, terrible people. Deal with it

Christianity would be better without the Old Testament.

>The Red Army had better military doctrines than the Nazis by 1943.
Explain.

Agreed. This shouldn't be taken to mean all sexist and racism is bad, however. Sexism is largely there to enforce monogamy, which leads to peace. (See, e.g., rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royptb/367/1589/657.full.pdf)

Not him, and it's debatable exactly when they managed it, but certainly by the end of the war the Red Army was the best land force in the world. They had learned how to carry out operations just as well-coordinated and executed as the Germans, and had the logistical capacity to do so at three times the scale.

In that case you may appreciate this series of posts and their comments:
unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/castes-of-united-states.html
unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/bdh-ov-conflict_07.html
unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/06/short-history-of-ultracalvinism.html
unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/06/why-i-am-not-anti-semite.html

That is because there is nothing to discuss. It's an eastern euro shit hole filled with some bizarre iranian/turkish/mongolian derived ethnicity that got cucked by slavs and became white. Also the country recently got attention by Internet retards because the PM is openly conservative and against immigration when in reality none of it matters because it's a broke ass eastern bloc shit hole filled with petty theft, crime, poverty, etc...

Source: am Hungarian

I wish the Spanish kingdoms failed the reconquista.

As a byzanboo I actually agree

I mean Japan wasn't going surrender for shit after the first bomb was dropped.

The nips where training women and children to use bamboo swords in case of a US invasion as a last line of defense. The urban warfare would've been a nightmare.

The US was so sure the casualties be astronomic that they had over 400,000 purple hearts made for the invasion.

They made so many we were still using them decades later historynewsnetwork.org/article/1801

On top of that there was even an attempted coup after the second bomb to prevent the government from surrendering.

If operation Downfall did go into action the US lands an invasion force that makes D-Day look like boy scout day trip. The Japanese respond like Okinawa times a hundred with their civilians trained to fight.

TLDR, yeah we really needed to drop the second bomb.

whoops forgot to cite the civilian fighting shit
fas.org/irp/eprint/arens/chap4.htm

>Ottomans where worthy succesors of the romans and byzantines
you forgot your tripcode, Mehmed

You are stuck on this planet too you know. And you aren't superior to anyone. So why pretend otherwise?

How are they not?

Castration was illegal in the Empire. Eunuchs had to be imported.

Can't someone answer this question?

Napoleon III wasn't that bad of a ruler

The Ottomans weren't up to snuff. Even given the clusterfuck that was the Eastern Roman Empire throughout the years they still score higher than the Turks. If they'd modernized then maybe but well never know for sure.

t. Ahmed

Kyoto should had been nuked.

No that's not what I mean at all and you know it son
Wewezillyrian.jpg dog gammit
Now fuck off Faggot

I'm sure you are Steven