What is the most historically pathetic nation when it comes to fighting wars?

Incas were stronk though.

Truthfully. The Irish. The only successful conquests they've done in their entire history was briefly holding onto bits of Dyfed, Wirral, Mann and western Scotland. The rest of their history has been them getting absolutely demolished by their neighbours, be they English, Norwegians etc.

Rome and nation of Italy are two entirely different States.

Black nations. Rekt by everyone.

The ones that don't exist anymore.

hmmm...

Germany

youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY&t=240s

China

Germany

kys, normie

Italy

Austria

What the fuck are you even talking about?
Firstly you seem to confuse the Scottish as Irish
Secondly Ireland was never united.
Thirdly, the Norwegians were driven out of Ireland. In fact, the King that had the most chance of ever uniting Ireland was killed in the last battle to drive the Norwegians out of Ireland (though the Irish still won the battle).

Incas are more to Peruvians what Romans are to Italians.

do Italians really take pride in Rome?
kek
the Romans were a Latin people
native to the Mediterranean
modern Italians are swarthy greasy Arab mongrels

>a Latin people
>native to the Mediterranean
>not swarthy and greasy

Fucking retarded initial borders. Looks much more aesthetic now.

stop getting your facts from Veeky Forums lad. Most Italians are dark but not as dark as that guy.

china

Probably Denmark
At least in land battles.

>tfw only survived as a nation because of our islands
>tfw beaten because a frozen sea

England probably.

China. They can only beat themselves

Poland due to amount of times geography fucked them being surrounded by Russia, Austria and the German Empires.

Australia
>Decisive Emu Victory

>sh-shut up guys, those emus are a force to be reckoned with! Y-you try and face off a 20,000 strong army of giant angry rampaging chickens with nothing but a beer and rusty shovel!

-t. Ausfag

who are you quoting

Ausfags

nobody here even knows about the amu war
t. ausfag

The crown of Aragon (in particular Catalans)
Italy
Austria
Denmark
The Ottomans
Egyptians
China
India
In no particular order

t. I've never been to italy

>swarthy
>greasy
So.. Romans?

>tfw when aussies are pretty underated soldiers
>battle of long tan
>siege of tobruk
>kokoda campaign

T. complete pseud hack

Persia, not even a contest. 3000 years of getting blown the fuck out.

t.buttmad poo in loo
>T
Get off your phone

>Persia
Nope.They beat the Romans,the Byzantines and in some cases the ottomans.And pre Alexander Persia was the mightiest empire of its time

...

Thracians
>cucked by Greeks
>cucked by Romans
>cucked out of existence by Bulgars

Spain or Italy

Pretty sure the English didn't conquer Ireland at all.

The Normans on the other hand were invited into the Kingdom of Leinster to fight on behalf of the deposed King Diarmaid.

Diarmaid was in good relations with the Normans and their current King.

It was a very messy situation, to say the English conquered Ireland is a joke. Many Welsh levies came into Ireland with the Normans, so you could say it was a French-Welsh conquest.

are they truly btfo if they managed to stick around for 3000 years.

You it's only BTFO if you stop existing?

Not sure if is the most pathetic, but sure it's the most backstabbing
>WW I
>Allied with Austria
>When Austria is fully engaged
>Start war against the formed allied nation
>To gain a bunch of rocks.

>backstab country that's literally falling apart trying not to get eaten by russia
>somehow manage to bungle it and spend years getting mowed down at the isonzo because boroevic has the high ground

Ireland is also the only european country to ever lose a 1vs1 war with England

This

When was this then? Never heard of such an event.

Do you mean England, or the United Kingdom?

Both
England and the UK never defeated any european country other than Ireland by themselves
But hey, at least they defeated Zulus...

The 'UK never beat another european country by themselves' meme needs to die.

Define 'defeated'.

Won a war against

And "by itself" means without being part of some coalition

Germany.

What about the repulsion of the Norwegians in 1066?

Italy

England as we know it was born when France colonized it in 1066
Before that it's basically ancient history and another nation

This
Honorable mentions are
UK (barely beat argentina, lost to egypt)
Paraguay (pants on head retardedness)
Bolivia (lost every war they ever fought that mattered)
China (lost to india)
Pakistan (lost to india)
Nigeria (lost half their country to terrorists)

See, this is what I suspected. Enough excuses, wording tricks and facetiousness and you can make any point.

Throwing my vote in for Italy.

>le karansebes meme

literally no sources

Dude, even if you counted it wouldnt make England any less pathetic

France won tons of European wars by itself (sometimes alone against coalitions), so did Spain, Prussia won many 1vs1 wars in the 19th century, even Austria won some
And then England has Ireland and.....some stuff dating back to 1066?

Italy is more like the worst of the best, the weakest of the Great Powers so I wouldn't call it pathetic, even they have major victories over the other Great Powers whereas a nation like Mexico has only won 1 war ever since declaring independence, and that was a civil war with French support.

Worst in Europe is definitely Poland or Austria.

italy

dont forget bardia

Probably ur mum's vagina. So many men have come and defeated it easily.

But you're equating thoroughly different scenarios. The UK is an island, which even a cursory understanding of warfare would tell you makes them very hard to invade, but also limited in their ability to project power.

>oh wow cherrypicking battles for my confirmation bias is so much fun

It isn't stressed enough just how absolutely incompetent Mexico had to be to fail to crush the Texas rebellion.

They had about 10x the size of the """"army""" that Texas had at the start of the rebellion, they were more equipped, much better trained, and fighting a war where there was nothing considerable really to hinder logistics. They lost purely from the sheer stupidity of their generals.

After coming off a string of a few terribly unimpressive early victories, in what should have become a moment where Santa Anna reflected on why the hell are we not just simply pounding the ever-living shit out of these scrubs, he instead becomes oddly emboldened by his embarrassing conquests, and sits the entirety of his effective fighting force and all the generals in foreign territory utterly undefended and without even a proper scouting perimeter believing that the Texans were too incapable of raising an attack force big enough to challenge it anyway.

Meanwhile, Sam Houston takes a rag tag bunch of ill-equipped volunteers who's ranks had swelled due to the news of the Alamo, and launches a surprise attack on the professionally trained Mexican army and in a decisive battle that would last only 18 minutes, to end a war that was only 6 months long, would essentially single-handily mark the start and be the main reason for 200 years of persistent failure and continual land loss for Mexico.

>be shitalian
>want to get some cool colonies like the other great powers have
>invade ethiopia
>get btfo by niggers with spears
>casualties are so high that the government colapses

amerindian nations, african "nations" and chinese people
Italy and balkans are overstated

>but also limited in their ability to project power.

Tell that to Imperial Japan

>Paraguay
They kicked ass. They were just retarded enough to go to war with 2 neighbours that outnumbered them 100 to 1

Jewistan also known as Israel of the Kingdom of Judea in the past.

>Jewistan
t.butthurt goat rapist
My vote goes to Ayyrabs

>posts pic the entire two year long Isonzo campaign
>Italians still get butt flustered and complain that its cherrypicked

>siege of tobruk
Don't give it just to Australians, Tobruk was like the most multicultural battle of WW2

Bolivian military history was retarded as hell.

> Make a confederation with Peru
> Get dissolved by Chile, a country with half the confederacys population.

> Break a trade treaty with Chile because they changed government like a hoe changes her man.
> Pull Peru into the war with a secret alliance
> Peru get rekt by Chilean military and losed lots of lands and resources.
> Bolivia cry like a bitch because of the result of a war were they losed acces to the sea.
> Bolivian contribution to the war effort was nothing. Peru got raped by Chile over nothing.
> Crying about the result of a war they losed more than 100 years ago to this day.

> President heard of a war against France.
>He was a Napoleon fanboy so he send troops to aid the french
> Over land
> Bolivian troops cross the amazonia
> They never reach Europe or cross the atlantic.

>Losed a war against Brazil and losed lots of resources.

> Paraguay get raped by Argentina-Urgay-Brazil alliance
> Bolivia wants to bully Paraguay and declare war against them
> Bolivia loses all the important battles and displays all of it incompetence.

> Bolivia have losed against everysingle one of their neightboors and against themselves too.

The ultimate loser.jpg

Which president sent his men to France?

The funny thing was that Alto Perú (Bolivia) was amongst the wealthiest places in America and at first they wanted to be independent as they didn't want to share they resources with Bolivar

Goat rapist that wrecked your shit constantly and you needed help from whitey to get back your ancestral land.

not that guy you're answering to but
>wrecked your shit constantly
like when?

>Losing every war against Jewland
>With the help of the USSR
>With more people and better equipment
>Got invaded and raped every single time.
AYYYrabs

>combat an argument against cherrypicking by more cherrypicking

you're missing the point of his post, picking and choosing events to fulfill a confirmation bias doesn't make your argument true.

if you want an objective worst military power, go with , a power who really has never succeeded in any military engagement.

Assyrians
Babylonians
Hittites
Ottomans
Umayyad

Take your pick at the sandpeople that wrecked you jews.

i am not mocking his argument, just the way he presented it

and yet none of those hold an empire nowadays

>Assyrians
>Babylonians
>Hittites
>Ottomans
>Umayyad
>This WE WUZING
>Most of them didn't even face against a jewish state
The absolute state of goat rapists kek.
AYYYrabs

india

they've been conquered by anyone who decided to cross the indus

the majority of their history is being ruled by foreigners (i.e. people not native to the subcontinent).

>Literally takes the entire world to take us down
>twice

>niggers with spears
>they have maxim mgs and lee enfields
>you have fiat revelli and a carcano
fuck