The Silent Generation
>the "Silents" are called that because many focused on their careers rather than on activism, and people in it were largely encouraged to conform with social norms.
Notable figures
>che guavera
>martin luther king
>malcolm x
>noam chomsky
>bob dylan
wat?
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You now realize the Silent Generation never existed.
Think: If red states are still so insistent on voter suppression, just how bad must it have been then?
Those people were "members" of the silent generation in that they were born to the generation. They weren't participating members of the silent majority which is why 3 out of 5 were killed and the other 2 weren't taken seriously by anyone but a vocal minority.
Demanding identification isn't voter suppression, Comrade. The only way it can be considered voter suppression is by suppressing the votes of people who can't legally fucking vote.
i agree with you, but making people jump through hoops to get voter id cards (instead of just letting people use any government issue id) to combat nonexistent voter fraud is absolutely nonsense.
>but making people jump through hoops to get voter id cards
You show up at the DMV, fill out a form, get an ID. It's not hard.
>nonexistent voter fraud
>nonexistent
Except every election watchdog out there has proven otherwise. Even the FBI admits there's a fuckton of illegal voting going on and there's little they can do about it.
Also on top of this, you need an ID to fucking work and collect on any other government program. So people who can legally vote already have a fucking ID.
Needing both an ID and voting card to participate in elections makes sense to me.
T. Non-American
Old people lack transportation/a driver's license because they're fucking old. You can't expect them to pay X dollars for a piece of plastic just because GOP politicians want to disenfranchise people likely to vote Democrat. It's literally a poll tax.
The people disenfranchised by voter ID are OVERWHELMINGLY the elderly, because they are the people least likely to have IDs (because they don't need them; they don't work, they don't drive).
> Even the FBI admits there's a fuckton of illegal voting going on and there's little they can do about it.
Prove it. That's not a statement anyone can believe without proof. From the same site above:
>Supporters of voter ID laws claim they will cut down on voting fraud, which seems a bit disingenuous. In Texas, for example, CBS-TV found only 62 cases of alleged voter fraud among the more than 39 million votes cast in recent elections — a percentage of .0001. Fewer than 25 of the 62 involve alleged in-person voter fraud.
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So would you please stop talking total shit and get it together, you ignorant liar?
Gop did this in some southern state and then closed all the dmv in negro districts. Louisiana or tenesee maybe
>not having a national/federal ID system
wow America is fucking weird. So you're telling me that not everyone has a plastic ID card or something that they HAVE to get when they're 15/18/whatever?
That seems... kinda stupid.
>en.m.wikipedia.org
Huh. Actually pretty interesting.
All Americans have a social security number assigned at birth (used for things like public benefits/job applications/proof of identity). But it's not a legal requirement to possess a card that proves your identity (usually a driver's license). It's just something that would be expected for most people to have, since most people are employed or have another reason it would be required in their daily life.
I remember reading that guys book and liking it, but the 1991 optimism for what millennials would be was painful to read.
You live in a country with mandatory state ID?
Thats fucked up mate
my grandma changed her id because something happened to her old, commie id booklet.
And she still needs it from time to time.
>voter suppression
>Basic ID laws
Wtf is your problem. It is not voter supression is just a law against fraud that makes a lot of sense
It's a plastic fucking card with my photo and the equivalent of my social security number on it (I guess), it's not like I'm chipped or something.
Whats with these fucking Leftists. Let me get it, you aren't even American either.
I don't know a single old person who doesn't have an ID. Hell, "old people" are the biggest voters in the country. The AARP is a Leftist organization trying to make it easier for the Democrats to get their illegal immigrants to vote.
I used to work in several nursing homes and we've had 100% voter turnout in every single one and they almost all voted Republican.
Also don't call him a liar you fucking Liberal pig. You people lie and lie and lie and consider it oppression when someone tells the truth. I hate your ideology so goddamn much, you little self important. """intellectual""" turds ruin every country you touch.
you don't have to get it, but if you want to do anything you do.
You see, in the United States you can choose to be registered to the government instead of having it automated from birth because we aren't in a goddamn authoritarian state. I can't stand it when foreigners call our country stupid. I am so happy we are going isolationist.
1) having compulsive IDs is not equal to living in an authoritarian state
2) even if you go isolationist that wont change anything about people calling the usa stupid and you reading them say so on the internet
You can choose to be registered to the government as opposed to... what exactly? Getting the fuck out of the country because you're an illegal? Aren't you trying to get rid of those, burg?
IDs are not compulsive. You don't need one. You need one to drive and if you have one you have to show it to a cop.
Its socially retarded not to get an ID though.
>registering for citizenship is the same as being on the grid if you're born in the US
I had a friend who was born in his house and he didn't have an SSN until he was 18. He was perfectly legal, however he couldn't really do shit. I heard this is actually illegal in a lot of countries.
>quoting aarp
fuck off shill. have you ever looked through an aarp mag?
the idea that most old people, or even a sizeable minority of old people, do not have id's is fuckin laughable. The majority of old people still drive, which means they have ID. the ones that do not drive usually have some kind of caregiver or live in an old folks home, meaning they have IDs or potential to easily get one. In regards to the tiny minority that may not have an ID, or will not have the agency to get an ID, the sacrifice of their vote towards stopping fraudalent voting is very much worth it. Given that the number of elders that do not have IDs likely does not come close to the number of fraudelent voters, their votes cease to matter anyways as they will be cancelled out by illegal votes.
The only people against sane voting laws are people on the left, as they know killing things like voter ID will go a long way in upping their vote counts. It is no secret as to who illegal/legal immigrant overwhelmingly vote for. This bullshit is just more of the same, leftist pretending to give a fuck in an attempt to further their own political goals. You faggots are constantly shill for illegal immigration and all of its inherit consequences, such as leading to a huge dispossessed/oppressed underclass, a massive drug epidemic, insane security issues, the undercutting of the working class on wages and benefits, the over burdening of our social welfare programs, and 100 other things I dont care to list... all in the name of political expediency. all because those illegals will tip the voter rolls in such a way as to basically secure a one party system for the dems. no matter the consequences, as long as you get yours right? you people are traitors to america and should be treated as such.
>if you have one you have to show it to a cop
Okay, now I'm REAL curious. What happens when a cop tells you "Let's see some ID" and you tell him you don't have one?
>Voter suppression doesn't exist
>Except for those couple of States where they requested studies on voter tendencies and specifically shut down the avenues most used by blacks
>Get called out on it in court
>NO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IT'S THE ILLEGALS REEEEEE
Voter fraud by and large doesn't happen and most cases of restricting voting are specifically meant to target minorities and poor people.
Depends on state. Some require you walk the streets with one. See walkers ID. If that's the case they will most likely ticket you and hold you until they can figure out if you're wanted. If not go to court with your ID already acquired after the incident and judge will most likely dismiss it
if you're in a system where you can't legally exist without identification, you're functionally "chipped" whether its in your brain or in your wallet
>if you have one you have to show it to a cop.
I'm assuming you mean while driving. You don't have to present any id to a cop just out walking.
>Doesn't post any links or proof
GTFO
>texastribune.org
>pbs.org
>google.com
>google.com
Pretty easy to look up m8
RFID
WE WON'T BE CHIPPED
(CARDINALE)
>muh voter ID laws are suppression
Reminder every European nations requires you show an ID to vote.
It's the same in the States, the issue isnt ID. The issue is the type of IDs required and restrictions such as the length of residency etc.
Nobody is saying you shouldn't need an ID to vote. But legislation is consistently being put forward to make Voter ID laws more strict with no data on why it's necessary other than that the majority of people it affects are the poor, elderly, and minorities.
Yeah dude. A utility bill or your driver's license is incredibly strict.
If you don't have some form of basic ID, or an idea of how to get it, there's a good chance you aren't really a contributor anyway so I'm not going to shed any tears about the fact that it's too inconvenient for you
>Voter fraud by and large doesn't happen
Could it have anything to do with the fact that the areas where it happens the most aren't keen on investigating or going after it??
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and Wisconsin flipped red so, so suddenly after instituting voter ID. Why could that be? Anything to do with Shitcago voters driving north to try to vote in Sconnie in the past? Or fraud in Milwaukee?
Utility bills and other forms of ID that don't have a photo aren't accepted in all States. That's the point.
So things such as a bill, a bank statement, a Medicare card, don't count as valid ID despite having your name and address.
You must live the great land of Europe where everyone is free, happy, and Socialist and you don't need no silly ID cards because the government already knows who you are and you're too afraid to speak out against Muslim rape anyway.
But no, we are so backwards with our personal liberties and drivers licenses.
I have read that most states that require photo identification also provide cheaper forms of it
at any rate only like 5 states are that strict
How much does a fucking bus fare cost?
If a cop asks for your ID, it means you are doing some shit or someone is wanted in the area. If you
If you don't have it on you, you say "I'm sorry officer I left it at home" or "I'm sorry officer I don't have an ID" and nothing will happen. If you are doing some fuckshit, however, you're going to jail.
As far as I know, most states it's illegal not to show the officer your ID, but if you're not being a goddamn nigger and not acting like a fuckin Libertarian nothing will happen.
Why the fuck would I want to live without an ID you lunatic, especially if I need it to do anything meaningful anyway?
>allowing IDs without photos for things like voting
Retardation. Utter retardation.
What sort of shitty strawman is this? I'm pretty sure most European countries including mine have an ID system.
>I don't know a single old person who doesn't have an ID
Anecdotal. Worthless to the argument at hand
>Hell, "old people" are the biggest voters in the country.
Doesn't refute the arguent that requiring IDs disenfranchises many elderly citizens
>The AARP is a Leftist organization trying to make it easier for the Democrats to get their illegal immigrants to vote.
Baseless conjecture
>I used to work in several nursing homes and we've had 100% voter turnout in every single one and they almost all voted Republican.
Anecdotal. Worthless to the argument at hand
>Also don't call him a liar you fucking Liberal pig. You people lie and lie and lie and consider it oppression when someone tells the truth. I hate your ideology so goddamn much, you little self important. """intellectual""" turds ruin every country you touch.
Character attacks.
Boy that's a lot of 'not an argument' you just posted. Maybe you should stick to /pol/ where gut feelings are an acceptable substitute for actual evidence.
>the aarp isn't a partisan organization
Stop before you make even more of an ass of yourself
If that's your argument then prove it.
>Retardation. Utter retardation.
It's fucking moronic that this is literally a position of a major party in the United States, that having photo ID is considered voter suppression. Worse is that about 50% of the population believe it as well.
If you have such a low stake in the American economy/society that you don't have some decent form ID or means to acquire it, I don't think you should be having a big say in the direction of the country anyway. How do you justify that? May as well let 12 year olds vote.
We started off only allowing white male landowners to vote, which is kind of absurd, and switched to another level of absurdity, anyone with two functioning neurons
Pointing out not arguments is also a not argument user
>A makes claims and provides evidence
>B says a bunch of shit that doesn't refute the claim
>"you didn't refute anything"
>"saying 'you didn't refute anything' isn't a refutation!"
If the other poster can refute the original claim then the discussion can move forward
lol, by the same logic I could say its because blacks didn't make it to the polls, which is actually true compared to 2008 and 2012
No you couldn't. Wisconsin was solid blue for decades. Voter ID laws passed, suddenly it goes red. This wasn't expected by anyone. There had long been rumors of Chicagoland fags voting in Wisconsin. It's highly suspicious.
Apply this on a larger scale, what happens if the government enacts national voter ID and actually starts taking potential fraud seriously? I think it's bad news for the Democrats.