>left-wingers follow Christ's teachings on the poor and marginalized, but ignore his teachings on sexual morality >right-wingers follow Christ's teachings on sexual morality, but ignore his teachings on the poor and marginalized >both of them take turns ignoring his divine/fear-of-God teachings
Does any group actually try to follow Christ entirely, rather than picking and choosing from his teachings based on their preexisting ideology?
>Does any group actually try to follow Christ entirely
Hell no. And nobody has since at least the writing of the Gospels, since they're quite obvious literary artifacts written by non-Judeean natives and still the only 'source' for Jesus's teachings.
Calvinists/Presbyterians are the most Sola Scriptura guys out there. Its the true Church.
Eli Rivera
I'm a small business owner and pay illegal immigrants the lowest slave wage they are willing to accept and I regularly attend degenerate fag sex orgies. Fuck the poor. Checkmate atheists.
Ethan Ward
t. every form of Christianity
Dominic Morris
I lel'd.
Gabriel Foster
I don't remember Christ teaching the Roman state to enact tax-funded redistribution of wealth through state investment in health and education.
Neither I remember Christ saying you should bang prostitutes in order to not defile your wife.
Bentley Murphy
You're talking about people.
Christians are new creations in Christ Jesus.
The people you are talking about are just people.
Samuel Taylor
No, Tolstoy's interpretation of the Sermon on the Mount is literally the TRUE Christianity.
Adrian Flores
The radical centrists do.
Cameron Hughes
>Tolstoy died in 1910, at the age of 82. Just prior to his death, his health had been a concern of his family, who were actively engaged in his care on a daily basis. During his last few days, he had spoken and written about dying. Renouncing his aristocratic lifestyle, he had finally gathered the nerve to separate from his wife, and left home in the middle of winter, in the dead of night.[11] His secretive departure was an apparent attempt to escape unannounced from Sophia's jealous tirades. She was outspokenly opposed to many of his teachings, and in recent years had grown envious of the attention which it seemed to her Tolstoy lavished upon his Tolstoyan "disciples".
>Tolstoy died of pneumonia[12]
Angel Nelson
Utterly impossible.
Sebastian Lewis
>Tolstoy died of pneumonia
AIDS
Charles Robinson
"With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Brayden Kelly
>thinking all left wingers are depraved and perverted >thinking all right wingers are greedy and scrooges
Jeremiah Clark
>no true Christian fallacy
easy, next?
Dumb protestants like you really irk me. You literally think you're spiritually superior beings, above the masses of sinners as a fucking angel from the clouds. It's sad.
Henry Collins
There are groups that *try* to reestablish what they think the early church was like but they end up devolving to crazy shows like Mormonism or Jehovah's Witnesses.
The answer is no. The closest you'll get is monasteries founded by one dude who decided to hole himself up in a cave for years or something.
Chase Campbell
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
Blake Long
I suppose you're proud of that too.
>Christians aren't "just people", they're super special but only if you're in my super special splinter denomination!
Juan Gutierrez
Yes, we really believe the bible. The Word of God. Odd, isn't it.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Aiden Green
And was Tolstoy "with God"?
NO.
Utterly impossible for him to understand the Sermon on the Mount.
Leo Ward
Who are you to say then who is in Christ, versus who is just a lesser person? Do they have superpowers? Some kind of defining and obvious differentiating quality?
>we really believe the bible
The parts you don't try to remove.
Adam Nelson
Yes.
I have super powers beyond your understanding and imagination.
>right-wingers follow Christ's teachings on sexual morality, but ignore his teachings on the poor and marginalized
Strawman 2bh lad, charity is strongest among the religious. Support for government redistribution programs isn't morality, especially if such funds aren't yours to begin with, there's no merit to be made in the giving if that's the case. It has to come from you.
Asher Nelson
>Christ's teachings on sexual morality
Like what? That shit was all Paul.
Caleb Diaz
...
Nathan Smith
As happens in dreams, a voice says: "Notice this, this is it!" And I look more and more into the infinite above me and feel that I am becoming calm. I remember all that has happened, and remember how it all happened; how I moved my legs, how I hung down, how frightened I was, and how I was saved from fear by looking upwards. And I ask myself: Well, and now am I not hanging just the same? And I do not so much look round as experience with my whole body the point of support on which I am held. I see that I no longer hang as if about to fall, but am firmly held. I ask myself how I am held: I feel about, look round, and see that under me, under the middle of my body, there is one support, and that when I look upwards I lie on it in the position of securest balance, and that it alone gave me support before. And then, as happens in dreams, I imagined the mechanism by means of which I was held; a very natural intelligible, and sure means, though to one awake that mechanism has no sense. I was even surprised in my dream that I had not understood it sooner. It appeared that at my head there was a pillar, and the security of that slender pillar was undoubted though there was nothing to support it. From the pillar a loop hung very ingeniously and yet simply, and if one lay with the middle of one's body in that loop and looked up, there could be no question of falling. This was all clear to me, and I was glad and tranquil. And it seemed as if someone said to me: "See that you remember."
And I awoke.
Justin Moore
>negligible difference if you ignore """religious causes""" >doesn't even address left or right wing
Blake Brooks
Not really. As a Marxist, I do not care one bit for the idealistic and spiritual preaching of the Bible, even by socialists.
Noah Gomez
1. See the other graph, and also this one; all religious groups except Jews and Catholics are heavily right-wing.
2. That 'negligible' difference is roughly 20%, and religious charities are often simply church-run charities which do work such as soup kitchens, lodging, education etc. but under a religious mandate. It shouldn't be ignored.
Jacob Stewart
"He who looks at a girl lustfully has already sinned in his heart" - Jesus Christ
Hunter Diaz
>People are subject to hypocrisy
Whoa, somebody contact CERN and NASA, we've a major scientific breakthrough here by the OP.
Levi Smith
Usury and sodomy are two sides of the same coin.
Cameron Smith
I hope people understand how much harsher this is.
In Judaism you could have a desire to sin but so long as you didn't act on your lusts you did not Sin. Jesus says just having the urge is sinful, if you fantasize about having sex with someone else you've committed adultery in your heart.
Jackson White
It gets worse.
James 2 Whoever keeps the whole Law but stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” If you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.…
Jace Ramirez
We on the left don't make it an objective to follow any text or people. Liberal policy is driven by science and compassion.
John Thompson
>destroying countries in the name of tolerance and compassion where's the compassion for the victims of islamic terrorism in europe? All I hear all day is "be compassionate to muslims, they didn't do nothing" yet no one is compassionate to european citizens
Lucas Thomas
That and going by paul You won't even be saved by not breaking the law, you are only saved when you naturally want to follow the law and would follow it regardless of if it leads to heaven or hell.
John Watson
>Christianity is communist
When will this meme die?
David Long
>quite obvious literary artifacts written by non-Judean natives inb4 citation needed, Matthew was written from the viewpoint of Jew for Jewish people. It contains many allusions to the Tanakh.
Gabriel Reyes
Yeah, not even then.
The Law is never going to save anyone. It just details crimes and punishments.
Levi Mitchell
And in Hebrew. Poor Hebrew, apparently, if Papias is to be believed.
Hudson Jones
Catholics?
For example in the form of French conservatism. Which is considered simultaneously Nazi and socialist by faggot liberal Anglo standards.
Caleb Lopez
>OP feels smugly superior to both and posts his tired """insights""" on an autism support messageboard we need /rel/
Gavin Russell
>"He who looks at a girl lustfully has already sinned in his heart" - Jesus Christ
Seems like left wing folk take that more seriously tbqh. Right wing is beauty pageant culture.
Jacob Wood
>simultaneously Nazi and socialist
NSDAP is already socialist, it's right there in the name silly.
Henry Reed
...
Nathan Rodriguez
It's usually the reverse.
Carter Wood
it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership
besides, what is a currency backed by nothing but labor?
James Anderson
Are you retarded? I don't even know where to begin with the stupidity of what you've opened a thread with. We're going to need clarification on just about everything you've written, so we'll start the first sentence: How the living fuck do "left-wingers" follow Christ's teachings on the poor and marginalised?
Gavin Foster
>left-wingers follow Christ's teachings on the poor and marginalized, but ignore his teachings on sexual morality Pfft yeah just think of those fags and peasants the Soviets worked to death in the gulags
Hunter Allen
>
Angel White
Paul wrote Jesus' response to the Pharisees' questions about marriage in heaven and divorce in which Christ defines monogamous marriage as the natural consequence of human biology?
Asher Phillips
>most truly Christian sect in history >half were murdered by Communists >other half sent to gulags to die later
really heats up the brain pan
Austin Wright
I guess not economic science, though.
Luke Butler
>Left wingers follow christian morals They do but only in the way, christian teaching influenced the enlightenment, which was breaking free from restrictions of the church
Easton Watson
>Liberal policy is driven by science and compassion.
Dominic Sanchez
I vaugley remember something about giving away all your posessions to the poor and following Christ, but why bother with that when you can just donate10% income to Church and be absolved of sin.
Isaiah Ward
ebin
Robert Hill
>economics >science pick one and only one
Easton Walker
And yet the pope says homosexuality isn't a sin, acting like one is.
Jack Wilson
That's the American right wing, don't make the mistake of taking the mutated decadence of American politics as representative of the left/right paradigm in other cultures.
Aaron Price
>left-wingers follow Christ's teachings on the poor and marginalized,
I'm not a christian but I don't remember Jesus saying "we should create a welfare state, fuck charity".
Asher Watson
You worship certain kinds of theorists (trotsky, wilhelm reich) like apostles tho.
Brandon Johnson
Look up distributism. Catholics address the social issues and so do some protesrants (but hardly all).
Charles Ortiz
You missed the point if you think that story was about Jesus wanting Christians to give away their possessions
Luis Wood
>but ignore his teachings on the poor and marginalized They don't actually. They give to charities and such, but like Christ, they don't think it should be mandated.