I read somewhere that cryptocurrency investments are taxed like property in the US, but does anyone know at what rates? I'm kinda nervous now to move coins out of Coinbase because they count each transaction as a purchase, and now that my ETH hoard is worth more than $12,000 I'm getting nervous about how much they're gonna get taxed when it comes to doing returns next year.
Also, since cryptocurrency is counted as property in the US instead of as currency, what's stopping people from running brothels in which you only pay in cryptos? You'd technically not be paying for sex so much as bartering for it given the way coins are recognized by the government, so I'm surprised that hardly anyone is using this loophole AFAIK.
Lobbyists are gonna try their damndest in the coming years to make sure that fiat is the most viable way to make purchases in America, if you want to enjoy the fruits of your crypto gains you'll have to cash out at some point.
I understand that, I was asking more about what kind of tax rates I should be anticipating for each transaction.
Alexander Myers
my tax advisor said i just have to report capital gains
Sebastian Campbell
I lost my keys anyway so it doesn't matter.
John Allen
Doesn't work like that. You still owe.
Jaxson Campbell
just keep that shit in your blockfolio
Anthony Smith
So if you make 100 grand worth of some shitcoin, buy another shitcoin with it and the value tanks to a dollar, you still owe 10-15k usd to the gubment even though you never cashed out?
Aaron Williams
Same as any other day trader, if you sell, you pay your tax brackets worth of taxes.
Bentley Cruz
I was looking for something like this, thanks m8
Zachary Brown
yes. that's exactly what the post you replied to is saying. you have to pay capital gain tax on all that shit.
Evan Torres
That is a capital loss, but if you cash out a paycheck and loose your wallet you don't get out of income tax. Same as losing your keys
Charles Morales
Here's an easy way to understand what you need to do for taxes. Let's say you buy $100 worth of bitcoin today online on an exchange. The IRS wants to know how much the rate per coin was when you purchased it, and also wants to know when you purchased it. Then let's say, one year later, the price doubles cleanly. You now own $200 in bitcoin, and you sell your coins for the $200. - the IRS says that's capital gains, and wants to know what the rate of change was between then and now. Well, that's a 100% increase, and you made $100. So when you file the specific form, you will have to note down every time you transfer fiat into coins, every time you transfer one coin to another coin, and every time you transfer coins to fiat. Every time you make a purchase, trade, or sale, denote when you did the transaction, what you handled, how much it cost, and what you earned or lost as a result. Coinbase keeps a record of every transaction you make, as does Bittrex - bittrex also keeps a record of coin trading. If you sell BTC for DGB, the site will record information about this. To keep things less stressful, save that data each time you trade, and denote around how much you earn or make thrygh trading coins around. Tedious? Yes, but jews exist for this sort of torture.
Leo Rogers
Thanks for your example, dubs guy. Looks like I'm in luck, because Coinbase and Bittrex are the two exchanges that I use for everything. What I'm more curious about though is how much should I expect to pay in taxes if I, to borrow your example, purchased $100 in BTC? I live in Dallas, would it be like an 8.25% rate that they use for generic purchases?
Christian Sanchez
But capitol gains only come into play when you liquidate your crypto into fiat correct?
Someone mentioned that you can trade BTC for silver/gold, which is a property exchange ( not taxable?)
Charles Perry
I'm not paying shit to the kikes. Crypto exists because of their corruption.
Christopher Cox
>if >if >if
Luke Foster
Don't cash out. You realize you can buy almost anything you want with crypto right? You can pay bills and pay off houses with it.
Lincoln James
Moving coins is not a transaction, trading coins is a transaction
Easton Johnson
anonymous, encrypted, and decentralized exchanges when?
William Long
The fact that I'm black and find this funny AF lol
Logan Lee
We just need to fund a crypto-lobby in congress to include cryptos in the coming tax reform.
Gavin Barnes
Average 5% in taxes on every single transaction is what I've heard, but I also hear it rises with the tax bracket.
Hudson Long
HAHA btc party will out fund the dems republicucks! We will buy congress back to protect our gains.
I was going to start a thread about this but I seriously think bitcoin will become a political issue if not next election cycle then 2024. Thing are ramping up so its not outside of the real of possibilities. Also trump may get behind bitcoin in 2020 if it is his only chance of winning.
Kevin Miller
Guess I'll keep an extra $5,000 in the bank then for tax season.
Do you think I should get a tax attorney for next year, or is TurboTax gonna be enough? This is my first year handling cryptos, so I don't know if TurboTax can calculate taxes for anything that isn't buttcoins when it comes to that sort of thing.
Yes, I'm not autistic enough to calculate my own taxes by hand.
Aiden Clark
Retards. You don't owe a single penny in taxes until you cash out with crypto.
Ethan Scott
Report this as a capital loss. You can reap benefits from this for years.
Blake Howard
Would you be so kind as to cite the tax code reference for this statement?
Adam James
You can contribute to political campaigns via Bitcoin, they're allowed to accept it with the regular reporting rules for donors.
They can also buy and invest in crypto using their campaign funds.
Don't forget Pocahontas's birth control and her boyfriend's truck.
Alexander Thompson
capital gains don't count if you hold for 3 years
Just withdraw small amounts to live off of for 3 years, then once stature of limitations runs out cash out your mother load and buy and island.
Xavier Turner
How can you show it's a capital loss when you lost it?
Daniel Lopez
Is there a website that shows the historical market price for Bitcoin on specific dates?
Aiden Adams
In the U.S., there is no statute of limitations on tax fraud. Look it up.
Brayden Ross
Three months ago there was no eth threads and no "muh taxes" threads
Buy your shitty scamcoin and sell it because we both know none of you eth faggots are holding that shit long term
Jaxson Martinez
Are cryptos actually fucking taxed.
Gavin Wood
if you buy a house with your gains you dont have to pay taxes because u are exchanging for property. TIL
Joshua Jenkins
You do NOT get taxed for moving them to another wallet you control.
Oliver Perez
Let's say I want to move out and get an apartment but I only have crypto. How would I go about doing that? Ask the landlord if he/she would accept BTC?
Jordan White
> not getting someone to "hack" your wallet > not reporting as capital loss
well?
The government wants to tax it. But not protect it? Interesting.
Dylan Murphy
Well what? Are you expecting the government to make sense? I wonder if anyone has gotten into the bitcoin insurance business yet.