In 1920, Russia was a war-torn society on the brink of collapse. By the beginning of WW2, they were one of the most powerful states on earth.
In 1920, Turkey was a also a war-torn society on the brink of collapse. By the beginning of WW2, Turkey was still an unstable shithole.
What the fuck happened?
Grayson Gray
Turkey stopped being a colonial empire, Russia did not.
Ryder Morgan
Turkey was a nation of 17 million people.
Also, it wasn't industrialized before 1920
William Johnson
Turkey lost WWI Russia didn't Also communism helped
Anthony Cruz
russia had natural sources like a baku oil
John Perez
Sell ukraininan grain for american machinery Trade oil for technology from Nazi germany
Carson Bailey
Is this seriously a question? Turkey and USSR can't be even compared in terms of population and resources.
Ataturk however fullfileld his goal. he drove out the occupying armies and established a secular republic.
Nathan Evans
>Turkey back then: 17 million >Turkey now: 80 million How?
Cooper Butler
Marxism-Leninism works.
Jose Morris
[COLAPSE]
Jackson King
Turkey was fucking poor in 1914 ($1,100 GDP per capita, compared to Russia at $1,500) and was much, much, MUCH more devastated by the war than Russia. It lost literally 1/4 of its population and much of its already tiny industry. It was all set to become Sub-Saharan African level shithole.
That it got to a halfway decent state as soon as it did is downright amazing.
Benjamin Taylor
Thanks to capitalist restoration and imperialism.
William Wright
Stalin happened baby. Fuggin five year plans doing work son.
>Russia didn't lose WWI shut up dummy
Thomas Lee
Fucking idiot just shut up
Juan Garcia
Yes clearly if states existed in a vacuum then communism would be perfect. Unfortunately, the ideology of Marx seems ill-suited to life outside of ideal testing conditions, susceptible as it is to any sort of corrupting influence that causes its inevitable collapse within a few decades of being established.
Tyler Moore
The USSR worked pretty well for most of its existence, material and social conditions at the time considered. Full employment, rapid industrialisation, rapid life expectancy gains, defeat of fascist invaders, equality between men and women, universal education etc.
Wyatt Smith
>By the beginning of WW2, they were one of the most powerful states on earth.
They really werent They were an irrelevant failed state in the late 30s, it's WW2 that unleashed their potential
Austin Wood
Found the triggered Germanboos Always make me lol when Germanboos claim that Germany didnt lose WW1 but gave up for internal reason because, while not true for Germany, it's what indeed happened to Russia
Jaxon Brown
Nice, how do I sign up to this imaginary land you speak of?
Joseph Rivera
>By the beginning of WW2, Turkey was still an unstable shithole It still is.
Matthew Watson
russia literally agreed to an extemely unfavourable treaty in ww1, how is that not losing and when did anyone say anything about germany
Kayden Lewis
>unstable True >shithole Not really. Unless you live with the Kurds, you have European standards of living.
Nicholas Rodriguez
This is the answer. Russia, as weird as it is, left WW1 on its own terms.
Ethan Reed
Everything he/she said works though
Cameron Perry
>Found the triggered Germanboos I'm a Stalinboo
Trotsky is the reason Russia lost WWI.
Henry Jackson
Yeah, but more on the Albania side of the scale.
Jordan Adams
Nope youre just an imbecile who obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. Labeling people who call you out for what you are 'germanboos' just further helps cement my first statement: Just shut up you fucking idiot
Grayson Price
Turkey is much better off than Albania, OECD classifies it as 'upper middle income' similar to Russia or Mexico.
Carson Ward
>By the beginning of WW2, they were one of the most powerful states on earth.
Incorrect and you get owned by Finland at the start of WW2.
It isn't until about 42-43 that Russia becomes a superpower.
Brody Ramirez
Socialism, comrade, socialism. Brought about through the dictatorship of the proletariat
Xavier Martinez
>gender equaluty Dropped
Parker Perez
Are you assuming xe/xir's pronouns?? Seriously??
Charles Ward
"its own terms" were losing half of its best land russia got worse WWI terms than germany did
Ian Jenkins
The USSR worked pretty well until it ran out of other people's money to spend.