Was Hitler on the left or right of the political spectrum? In school we always learned he was a right-winged fascist...

Was Hitler on the left or right of the political spectrum? In school we always learned he was a right-winged fascist, but for some reason the media calls him a left socialist.

I know he led the whole "National Socialist" party, but wasn't he very against communism? Didn't he come to power and fight the SU on that principle? Why do people keep saying he's a leftist? Or am I getting this wrong?

Though didn't he also dictate the German economy to suit the state's needs? Is that a socialist thing, or totalitarian in general?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Goldberg
pseudoerasmus.com/2015/05/03/fascism-left-or-right/
pseudoerasmus.com/2015/05/06/fascists-part-2/
europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm
telegraph.co.uk/history/11655230/Hitler-was-not-a-socialist-even-if-he-did-stash-champagne.html
cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0289.2009.00473.x/abstract
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He was seen as a leftist from the conservative side.

Right

Don't even try finding coherent meaning in Hitler's ideas, it's impossible

>In school we always learned he was a right-winged fascist, but for some reason the media calls him a left socialist.

It's not the media, but American conservative dorks.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Goldberg

>I know he led the whole "National Socialist" party, but wasn't he very against communism? Didn't he come to power and fight the SU on that principle? Why do people keep saying he's a leftist? Or am I getting this wrong?

So many contemporary conservatives were either cheer-leading for him or in bed with him so the whole thing became rather embarrassing after the camps were liberated and it was impossible to pretend what the Nazis were really doing.

>Though didn't he also dictate the German economy to suit the state's needs? Is that a socialist thing, or totalitarian in general?

The key operating principle of conservative political economy is "pro-business" and not laissez-faire.

pseudoerasmus.com/2015/05/03/fascism-left-or-right/

pseudoerasmus.com/2015/05/06/fascists-part-2/

>every past system has to be associated with one american political party or i won't understand it

Depends on how you define socialism. If you define it as welfare and government programs, then Hitler was a socialist. If you define socialism as big authoritarian government, then Hitler exemplified that as well. If you define socialism as worker control over the means of production, then I don't believe Hitler was a socialist.

The left and right political spectrum aren't solely an American party creation. What the hell are you talking about?

>In school we always learned he was a right-winged fascist

Man, your school was bad.

National SOCIALIST Party.

What gives it away that he was a lefty? Maybe the fact that he was a socialist?

Granted, when you get as batshit crazy as the Nazi's and the Communists, 'left' or 'right' sort of blur together into 'totalitarian'.

Totalitarianism is bad, m'kay?

you had to join chambers of every sector
big and small companies, workers and company owners
everyone
it is pretty much socialism, they seize the means of production
but the state (which is btw the volk) can and will tell you how and what you will do if they see it fit

It's a buttblasted leaf or frog who is so desperate to feel superior and relevant that reading comprehension no longer matters. Don't bother responding to folks like him.

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

>Democratic
>People's
>Republic
>Of Korea

and /thread

It's telling how poor education is that people think he was remotely left wing.

>the Nigerian Party For Justice and Freedom
>their goal is clearly justice and freedom, right?
Everything that was leftist was squashed when Röhm was sentenced and the SA was squashed.
>Maybe the fact that he was a socialist?
europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm
telegraph.co.uk/history/11655230/Hitler-was-not-a-socialist-even-if-he-did-stash-champagne.html

What do you mean you had to join chambers of every sector?

How did the government seize the means of production? Did they steal privately-owned things and give it to government employees or did they just tax the original owners?

>implying an anonymous blog spot works somehow as a proof

its because you are a retarded american like many others on this board
where left wing means batshit crazy liberals, suck negro cock and globalization and weeehaay
actual left policies are completely different, but thanks to you shitstains, its also almost completely gone
fuck you and your retardation

I believe he is referring to the DAF/RAD corporatist system

Thing is, in Nazi Germany it wasn't even implemented properly.

>socialist
He obly used that term to appeal to workers. He actually privatized a lot of public business.

>they seize the means of production
No, they did not. Stop making shit up.

...

>acting so triggered
Not him but he is right. Asking whether the Nazis were left or right is literally stupid. And the only argument on the table is
>the name
>.
That's it.

chamber of agriculture
chamber of banks
chamber of lawyers
chamber of steel production
etc etc etc
if you have a job,a company you were part of a chamber
these chamber regulate everything they wish through legislation the government hands to them
its the corporative model of fascism basicly
the state doesnt own the company
just have the legal ability, to completely control it

thats because you are uneducated peasant who reads pol as source
kill yourself along with other retards, fucking shits

>chamber of steel production
>literally making shit up wile ignoring punctuation

I am actually a PhD student of contemporary German history who read more books last year than you in your entire life.

...

H was neither right-wing nor left-wing, he was radically anti-centrist

>radically anti-centrist
>chill with Hindenburg
>strengthen the Wehrmacht
>chill with Krupp, Hugo Boss and Quandt
There is a reason the SA was mad at him.

fascism was an unholy reconciliation between various worker movements rooted in internationalist sympathies and far right wingers that wanted to abolish liberal democracy and sometimes restore the monarchy or at least hand power over to an absolute autocrat it was literally billed as radical centrism how many times do I have to tell you plebs this

>american education

maybe read actual books instead of fiction

I haven't been in the states in 10 years. I was born and educated in Germany. No idea why I trigger you so hard bruh.

Also I can't remember the last time I read fiction. In my free time I prefer popular history book on subjects I am not familiar with (like Tom Holland or something). Stop wasting digits please.

Hitler was more socialist than USSR.

Don't try to find meaning in any politician they flip flop on everything

Center-left

>National SOCIALIST Party.

This was the name of his fucking party.

Here the definition of Socialism:

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production

Now stop talking about stuff you clearly don't understand.

this honestly.

he was on the spectrum, but not the political one

>implying you have anything other than a weak appeal to authority.

cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0289.2009.00473.x/abstract

kek

And this is why you should never leave /pol/, it's a containment board for retards like you

Societal right
Economical left

Right.
The only retards that say he's left are austrian/american """libertarians""" who are on a quest to create a parallel orwellian language.

reminds me of someone but I can't put my finger on it

kek of the thread

>conservative on religious purity
>conservative on racial purity
>mass deregulations
>full on privatizations
Sounds like typical conservative/republican wet dream.

Great post mate

True Fascism is and always was the radical centre.

No watch as leftyshits and conservashits try to deny this.

>radical center

Nonexistent, enjoy living a lie stormfag.

You are either support private enterprise or you do not.

"I absolutely insist on protecting private property... we must encourage private initiative." - Adolf Hitler

Yes there can be no third way you're either with us or with the communi--- err capitalists goy.

someone animate this where each thought bubble is being imagined by the previous version in a never-ending cycle

Fascism is third position
>ameritards will disagree with me

>national socialism begins and ends with Hitler

>revive a long purged faction to try and court leftists to your cause *vomit*
>make a lot of really shitty macros that I could've created in 2008 on /b/

>implying left/right has anything to do with private property
>another Marxtard autistically screeching because people ignore Marxist definitions

Only German leftists.

>national socialism should be defined by a man who ignored the socialist part
Kike pls

>complains about old memes while posting *asterisk verb*

>w-we're not trying to defend our shitty 2008 /b/ tier propaganda to convert leftists, honest!

my only question is WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Are you Jewish?

why would you ever want to convert leftists?

>ashamed to admit his kikery
TYPICAL TRICKS THERE MERCHANT

There is no socialism without nationalism and vice versa.

>nazbol
>everyone who asks me a question is jewish

you are a classically brain washed american

>labels tell me how to think
Now i understand, that's why you scream about transgender people so much!

this was and is appropriating the popular work culture of germany but labelling it and establishing a government entity directing production

it is now large scale corporations guiding with negotiation from large scale trade unions - like most of the most productive european countries

re: denmark, germany, france

>*vomit*

>he thinks Rohmism is nazbol
Working class is nationalist by nature, it's only deracinated PUE who push internationalist communism instead of national socialism because it serves Jewish interests.

>*vomit*
Leave this board immediately and fuck off back to riddit

>nazbol trying to claim special snowflake status

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

here's your last reply

>redefining a well established meme to justify your insane belief in a centrist conspiracy
you realize that centrist policies are the ones most easily established in your garbage 2 party state right?

that no other democracy operates so insidiously undemocratically? that minority coalitions in other countries can get any sorts of weird small-group policies in?

american need gulags for the insane

Pretty accurate
And then he purged the left faction to get brownie points with the German elite

But I am a fascist, faggot.

>"i troll you" ancap-statist masquerading as a braindead libertarian
holy shit KYS

large capital has state like qualities regardless of what it's fucking label is

god damn i bet you work below 3 managers saying fuck the other plebs who didn't make it without any irony

We had them, but Carter + Reagan dismantled the asylum system.

And I'm not American.

>ancap
>libertarian
What are you going on about you delusional kike? Libertarianism is a Jew ideology.

you don't even know what kind of fascism you align with

you've just been brain washed by your jew media into thinking the rich are so far superior in planning and decision making that there should be no negotiation/cohercive elements to reign them in

basically you're looking for corporate hand-me-downs, which is the most subversive and disgusting value system in modern america

you realize that a fascist regime is necessarily globalist, right? because market spaced and forex

holy fuck your country is hilarious

you can't turn back the clock on the world; if trump started Wall Street would scream and break him

>reddit spacing

bill and reagan wasn't it?

>everybody I dislike is a Yank
Holy strawman Batman.

what the hell ? so you're just a wannabe fascist without an ideology looking for a "strong man" to scream like an ape - just like you'd want to be able to do if you were a diplomatic leader

fucking brain dead - you're still getting taxed but now your taxes will be used to subsidize the very rich jew libertarians you hate so much

your only chance was to break up the banks and slowly reign in spending and the speculative fintech system - bernie woulda tried and then you could have laughed as america fell apart

now you'll be screaming

Apparently it's easier to read on phones
Fucking faggots

i dont reddit - phones suck - but why do you even care?

classic stormfronter with nothing to say

if you're a fascist you're 9/10 a yank; other 1/10 is UK retards screaming about the EU

I'm a national socialist.

i'm only here to laugh at wannabe fascists

if you aren't in the army you aren't a fucking fascist...

I'm a Russian

>American LARPing as a Russian now that it's cool to do so

LEL timestamped passport or GTFO

you subscribe to what kind of fascism chump? how would you mediate power structures that regulate industr-govnmt coalitions? do you believe in hegemonic or isolationist policies? those are the only pertinent questions, and one is fucking stupid in the 21rst century

that you believe in welfare-state spending is literally meaningless

Butthurt pshek spotted

so, what do you believe in ? your country is literally owned by a cabal of Putin-free fly oligarchs, so i am interested in your views on fascism

Fuck off kikelord.

friendly*-free fly

also, specify re: your financial industry

i know a few dudes who are doing great in russia, but if it weren't for the mass exodus from your country you'd be suffering from stalin-era mass deaths :3

what the fuck are you even saying retard

(that's rhetorical just go back to pol and spew memes vaguely related to ideology)

>pol
Go back

it was a garbage thread and i'm always glad to crush stuff mods won't

>pol
Why does Veeky Forums attract so many phoneposting newfaggots

>pol

So you're just saying Hitler was playing 1244563452D chess?