Why is Napoleon held in such high regard...

Why is Napoleon held in such high regard? His empire lasted like 2 decades and was captured by England and sent to die on some island near Africa. After his damage France be an irrelevant shithole. Also he was Italian and not even French.

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He did conquer half of Europe.

Because he really was a military genius on par with Alexander and Caesar and also didn't commit any huge atrocities (according to 19 century standards) so he wasn't really hated by his enemies.

>military genius
>lost

>(according to 19 century standards)
Goya could not unsee what his troops did to spanish pesants

That wasn't really Nappy's fault though
t. ETERNALLY asshurt anglo

So did Hanibal. You can be on the loosing side but still have a great skill.

But England beat him and sent him to die on St Helena

>muh firing squad painting

yes, because they allied with the German

they could never have invaded without treachery

>Y-Y-You only won because of all the clever things you did

please stop posting

Posterboy of enlightened leadership + as the above poster said he's with Alexander and Caesar. Also that same post could apply to Alexander.

This isn't sports dummy. Caesar also lost.

Yeah it only took so much and bankrolling so many coalitions until finally beating him with hardly any military strength.

So England beat him, captured him and send him to die on St Helena.

Everybody loses in the end.

Stalin didn't

>His empire lasted like 2 decades
Ruling Europe for two decades is more glorious than ruling 3rd world shitholes for centuries

>After his damage France be an irrelevant shithole
Compared to before, sure
Compared to the rest of Europe, not really
France just passed from godlike to average

>Also he was Italian and not even French.
Which makes his feats even more umpressive
He overcame his Italian genetics and became good at war despite of them

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union

>these serious replies

he's trolling you retards (I hope)

Wanna talk about what British troops did to Spanish civilians they were supposed to liberate?

Stalin died before that happened

Needing help to win = being clever?
Why don't Brits say of France in WW1 that it was "clever" instead of saying it needed to be saved then

>Ruling Europe for two decades is more glorious than ruling 3rd world shitholes for centuries

>w-w-we didn't want those resources, markets the ability to spread our language or culture we just wanted alsea larone (or what ever it is called hah) ugly dumb frog scum

As the Eternal Anglo will always do

so everybody agrees he wass italian uh ? this board deserves the bait threads as deep as it can get

well of course corsicans aren't italian, and at the time of napoleon they had recently been acquired by the nefarious culture stomping french

so really, he's not french by birth, though he came to see it as his own later in life

the french in themselves aren't an ethnicity though.
There are italian french, germanic french, nordic french, celtic french, hispanic french, etc
The french country has never been composed of one ethnicity like Germany for instance.

his country was originally not france

understand that

Less than half of France was originally France. Your point?

your post is pointless

corsica had been freshly conquered by france you arguing git

He was still a french citizen. Which is just about what being french is.

tell that to the Corsicans of that time that resisted the french into the late 1700s

It is beter to conquer and lost, than never conquer at all.

Their opinion is irrelevant unless they successfully secede

you just can't admit one point that you're wrong about

Nor hum but there is not even debate about whether or not he is French. Can any credible historian claim he's not? Why are you working so hard to disassociate him with France?

Not him* Fucking mobile.

Well the British had sent themselves off to die on England Island, so they thought Napoleon would just enjoy himself that way.

I can't understand this sentence.

>getting invaded
>clever

hmm

It is clever to fight with allies but essaily Britain in WWI with the naval power they had.

>England

you mean Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and """England""" ofc

>welsh
>human

please stop this meme

>implying

>nobody mentions Napoleon's lawriting as one reason he is held to such high reward

>or the metric system

>his empire lasted like 20 years
>lived to 52
Almost half of his life was made of triumph and glory, and even before he was emperor he had lots of great things he accomplished

I don't have my source but i've read that there was actually rampant corruption under him where you had government figures selling off medical supplies meant for the army and nothing was ever done about it.
Pretty fucking gruesome when you consider the reality of what being wounded was like at the time.

Sounds like Anglo propaganda.

Why is Hitler held in such high regard? His empire lasted like 2 decades and was almost captured by Russia and then he killed himself in the last island of nazi turf in Berlin. After his damage Germany be an irrelevant shithole. Also he was Austrian and not even German.

he lost to himself

>after his damage france be an irrelevant shithole
>he was italian not even french

Because he shook Europe to it's core and left a legacy of legal systems and democracy.

honestly why are you even arguing with an idiot

>Hitler
>Held in high regard

fucking kek

>Also he was Austrian and not even German

so that's one thing he had going for him

I'm a brit, and Napoleon is far and away more glorious than anyone we ever produced.

>Italian genetics

You know modern day Italians are almost genetically 100% identical to ancient Romans right?
Even the memes about the North-South divergence and Moors/Greeks/Scandinavians/French/German rapebabies are rooted in no science.

Lord Byron is pretty based.

But he actually was Italian by blood. His family descended from minor Tuscan nobility. All of them. He was as Italian by blood as one could possibly be... He spoke Italian and Corsican before even learning French.
He even is reported to have said "I am of the race that builds empires" in reference to his Italian heritage....

Trafalgar too

Someone called him non-French once and he took it as a deep personal insult.

on /pol/ i should have added :^)

Thats great. Its not like its mutually exclusive. He spent his whole childhood getting made fun of for being Corsican born. He was nationally french and ethnically Italian. He was an extreme Corsican nationalist when he was young even. Read about him and Pasquale Paoli.

you mean like 0.00001% of the population?

thats the joke