>The State will actually imprison you or take your children away from you if you don't send them to school
How is this ethically not a breach of privacy or individual rights? What right does a state have to take away someone else's child because that individual doesn't send their children to the state propaganda house?
you don't have to send them to the state propaganda house. there are private schools you could take them to, or you can even home school them. it's not teaching a kid that is a problem because it's seen as a form of neglect akin to not feeding them or not providing shelter for them.
Because basic education is a right and you are denying your children of that right.
Mandatory education is absolutely necessary in order to become a functioning part of society. There are literally no options left for you if you don't even have a basic education.
>home school
Only in America is this a thing and nowhere else. In Europe you'd go to jail for that.
It is a form of neglect and harmful to the child's well being. It is also in the interest of the government to make sure that the citizenry aren't a bunch of idiots, especially in first world nations like the US where science, technology, and services are a big part of our economy instead of manufacturing
>Only in America is this a thing and nowhere else. In Europe you'd go to jail for that.
Irishman here
Was homeschooled since age 9 or 10
>Only in America is this a thing and nowhere else. In Europe you'd go to jail for that.
land the free wins again
>"your" children
people are property now? wew
I said Europe.
Ireland is in Europe. Stop.
>homeschooling should be legal
k senpai
Pretty sure Varg Vikernes who lives in France homeschools his kids too...
>Wanting more kids in American public schooling
Your children are your responsibilty, but they are not your property. They are separate people, with rights. Denying them an education is doing them harm, just like starving them would be.
Who else does the child belong to? It was created with my dna and my wife's dna through voluntarily copulation!
I mean, there's nothing wrong with public schools in the US
>inb4 le rankings
Yeah, those include inner city schools full of shitty kids who don't wanna learn. Take them out and we're on par with everyone else. And it ain't those parents homeschooling their kids.
It is a breech of individual rights and I support it. Not everything is about muh individual rights, as liberals would like to think.
Unless you are rich enough to afford top-notch private teachers (in which case the gov. would not care), public school is by far the best choice for kids both for socialization and knowledge.
>Who else does the child belong to?
Who do you belong to?
I am not a child, checkmate, atheist.
His parents. Hence, he should be fine if his dad wanted to come and bash his skull in for the fun of it, since a man can do with his property as he pleases.
There is no reason why ceasing to be a child would cease your property status.
Addendum: Because he would still be "created with their DNA through voluntarily copulation".
Newsflash, you, your wife, and your child are all state property. Human rights are a myth.
*tip*
The state is a social construct and belongs to the people.
Checkmate, atheist.
how can you be state property if the state is a spook?
Literally the only people dumb enough to have their kids taken for educating them are the absolute dregs of society that don't realize that all they have to do is "home school" their kids
So literally only people too stupid for kids anyways
Also depriving someone of at least a basic education is cruelty because you are ruining that child's life forever and they will likely never be anything more then a burden on society
Right is--obviously--irrelevant. Many people do things that are beyond wrong. Apparently people have the right to do whatever they are capable of.
The test is to come up with something better to replace broken government, to fix all of society's ills and people's ills. I sincerely wish you best.
philosophically this is an interesting subject, but in reality only dumb turds let their kids out of school hence why this rule exist.
you can agree with people like frank zappa that said that if you want your children to have a mind of their own and to actually think, you should removed them from school and tought them by yourself but in reality the huge majority of the parents lacks any knowledge of how to properly raise kids and just had them for three reason:
>peer pression
>fuck up/unplanned pregnancy
>basic instincts from someone who has no clue to do once the kid arrives and just wanted to have a baby because why not
so yeah, we need this rule to be enforced to prevent neglected children from marginalized minorities like the gypsies
Homeschooled children are universally smarter than public schooled children.
Reddit is that way
This whole thread
1) Without compulsory education, children of lower class or lower initiative people would not send their children to school-- rather, in the former they would help make money and in the latter, would be ignored or similarly exploited. Children's futures would be entirely dependent on the mindset of the general public-- for example, "girls don't need school, let's not bother sending our daughters to school".
2) A better educated public is better for society as a whole. They are more informed, better at critical thinking, and are given skills to help build society.
3) Even a middle/high school drop out is better able to function in every day modern life than a child given no formal education. How are you to manage funds when you were not taught math? Critical thinking needed to think on your feet? Language to understand irony and context, to avoid being taken advantage of in agreements verbal, or god forbid on paper. Illiteracy is dependency.
4) The work-day structure of modern schooling prepares children for their 9-5 jobs and allows for parents to resume theirs. This is what allows our current structure and we could not do without the officially licenced baby sitters. If this was not compulsory, it would become a privilege of the middle and upper classes, further hurting those who need work and thus income the most.
>you can agree with people like frank zappa that said that if you want your children to have a mind of their own and to actually think, you should removed them from school and tought them by yourself
Parents are just as prone as anyone else to indoctrinate their children. Take a look at random religious communities that are allowed to raise children on their own. Do they tend to teach critical thinking skills like formal logic, statistics, all sorts of philosophy and literature, or do they tend to teach what the religious community values? The focus is probably on the latter.
The average schools in a functioning democracy are more likely to educate and cultivate capable citizens than the average parent.
[citation needed]
the state doesn't want to suffer from your shitty parenting
their house their rules
>How is this ethically not a breach of privacy or individual rights?
If you deny your child a human right?
Only because you enjoy being uneducated?