Is the Reconquista the most just and heroic war ever?

Is the Reconquista the most just and heroic war ever?

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why did it take so long?

>just and heroic war
Kek.

Spaniards don't go to work first thing in the morning

Estábamos creando la siesta.

It was one of the saddest events in history.

Muslim Iberia was more beautiful and bountiful than what those shits from up north could bring until they discovered the new world and raped its resources.

nice fairy tale kiddo

Yeah, all that taifa anarchy and mass slaughter of everyone everywhere ever couple years.

The only good jewel was Cordoba(the city) and they managed to even burn her to the ground by the 1060s.

They were no different from the Christian warlords.

I don't see how it's all that heroic. I mean, it's not like the Visigoths didn't conquer Iberia from someone else.

¿Jaja, que estas haciendo? España es perfecto con todas cosas

Well, to be fair, after the Caliphate of Cordoba, the Almoravids and the Almohads were new invaders from Africa that conquered the Muslims in Spain, so technically the Christians conquering that area were in fact, pushing out invaders.

Cordoba was never as large and grand as claimed either, archaeological evidence confirms that.

The whole thing has been blown out of proportion by your modern day orientalist islamophile dicksuckers as per usual.

170 years for grey piece of sh*t?

omg, fucken 230 years.

Orientalism is a European supremacist ideal

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>Is the Reconquista the most just and heroic war ever?
Yes and that map is shit.
t.Moro
Parias and Berber invasions.Most of the time it was just more profitable to have a muslim vassal that payed you half of their tax revenue for defence and protection
t.Moro.
Castile is the pinacle of human civilization
>it's not like the Visigoths
La reconquita was done by Galicians(very little), Asturians(not much) and Castillians (most of it).Castillians had no relationship with the Visigoths as the region was never conquered and the few Visigoths that moved north didn't hold important powers.They were more integrated in Leon/Asturias but those people are total losers and achieved nothing

>Muslim Iberia
Nice reductionism. The numerous Islamic states that existed during medieval Iberia were of varying quality.
Don't lump the Caliphate of Cordoba with the fucking Almohads.

nunca esquecer

they were all shit states of perpetual violence and survived on men from north africa lured with the promise of Christian slaves that were the cornerstone of the economy

No war is just and heroic.

The fact that they banished all religious minorities shortly after makes them look bad. The inquisition makes them look bad. Colonial history makes them look bad. Honestly I wouldn't necessarily say things were better under the Muslims, but they weren't as much of a horrible and a black stain on the history of humanity.

Second only to Great Patriotic War

>nunca esquecer
>POrtugal has lost 7 wars against Castile
>Portuguese still clinge to a war fought by Leonese nobles

You've been reading too much Said.

Orientalism was in many ways a "grass is greener" xenophilia. See Voltaire thinking that the Porte's millet system was some form of ideal, tolerant system of governance - or the who concept of the "chivalrous saladins of syria" and "cultured moors of spain".

It certainly wasn't a "supremacist" idea. Racial supremacists do not believe in emulating and worshipping foreign cultures to the degree the orientalists did.

Sorry Ahmed. Rip your brown skin off, freeze fry it and feed it to you in bits.

>history of humanity.

God I hate libtards and their social constructs like "humanity".

Who outside of white western urban liberals considers themselves a "human first" and their ethnic or religious identity second, pray tell?

>The fact that they banished all religious minorities shortly after makes them look bad.
exprelling invaders is bad
>The inquisition makes them look bad.
killing terrorists that were in league with barbary pirates and turks is bad
>Colonial history makes them look bad.
believing in anglo lies
>Honestly I wouldn't necessarily say things were better under the Muslims, but they weren't as much of a horrible and a black stain on the history of humanity.
because modern leftist romanization of al andalus is accurate

>exprelling invaders is bad
Yeah, those infamous Jewish invaders.
>believing in anglo lies
Spanish colonisation was pretty horrible.
>because modern leftist romanization of al andalus is accurate
Not an argument.

>Yeah, those infamous Jewish invaders.

Not him, but Jews were hated because they collaborated with the Muslim invaders and basically functioned as their middlemen minority (taxmen in a lot of cases).

You really shouldn't be commenting in this thread if you don't know this. It's basic.

>Not an argument.

It's an undeniable fact that Al Andalus has been heavily romanticized by leftists/liberals, e.g. Cordoba having a population of excess of a million, Muslim authorities being tolerant and so on.

>Spanish colonisation was pretty horrible.

But Muslim colonization of Iberia was a-ok.

>but they weren't as much of a horrible and a black stain on the history of humanity.

>muh humanity!

who cares
they expelled invasive forces from north africa and conquered those lands, whether they are rightful clay or not doesnt matter, they were superior, they won

also muslims were the colonizers.

Why do you libshits fight so much against "white supremacy" and try to guilt us for european colonialism but MUSLIM colonialism is okay? You have horrible double standards.

>Yeah, those infamous Jewish invaders.
Jews planned the muslim invasion of Spain.It was their punishment for betraying christianity.They deserved it
>Spanish colonisation was pretty horrible.
Way more tolerant than most countries.
>Not an argument.
You cannot argue against an uninformed moron (You)

>Not him, but Jews were hated because they collaborated with the Muslim invaders and basically functioned as their middlemen minority (taxmen in a lot of cases).
>You really shouldn't be commenting in this thread if you don't know this. It's basic.
Huge amounts of Jews wouldn't have much to do with that. Rural Jews did exist you know.
>It's an undeniable fact that Al Andalus has been heavily romanticized by leftists/liberals, e.g. Cordoba having a population of excess of a million, Muslim authorities being tolerant and so on.
Again, not an argument. I haven't seen this so called undeniable fact in action, despite the fact people like to be bang on about it.
>But Muslim colonization of Iberia was a-ok.
Didn't say that, though it's worth noting that the invasion of Iberia was very different to the colonisation of say, Mexico.
>Jews planned the muslim invasion of Spain.It was their punishment for betraying christianity.They deserved it
kek
>Way more tolerant than most countries.
double kek

>kek
It is a fact.They opened the gates of cities like Toledo and Cordoba and raised up for the muslim invaders in over 15 cities
>double kek
>Giving rights to natives
>Giving them citizenship by law (An indian could travel to Spain and make a living there if they wished)
>Most marriages were consensual as native women preffered Spanish men.
If you studied colonial history you would be surprised how tolerant Spain was for the time.

Eh, by the time they took Iberia, they assimilated to the culture rather quickly, so it wasn't like they were invaders who were forcing their culture.

it doesnt matter. muslims lost, christians won.
visigots losts, berbers won and so on.

its just the way it is, might is right, the superior wins.

but when white christians win its somehow worse than when arabic muslims win. when muslims win it means they are spreading their great culture and enrich us, but when europeans win its the most evil thing on the planet.

Are there libtards who do the whole islamophilia thing with regards to the Ottomans? I've only ever heard it in regards to the Arab Caliphates but I'd find it really funny to see a lib playing into some "Ottomans were peaceful and tolerant an sheeit because they allowed Christians some degree of autonomy inbetween taxing the shit out of them and raping them and massacring them".

The 19th and early 20th century history of the Ottomans is literally just massacre after massacre after massacre.

yeah basicly

"after those white evil christians expelled the kikes who dindu nuffin the tolerant turks take all the sephardic jews :DDDDDDD so tolerant"

Think about the level of psychic damage required to make someone hate their own people to the degree they start idolizing the Turks.

No, Alfred the Great BTFOing the Vikings of tee Great Heathen Army was.

Agreed.

It's honestly sad to see many self hating people in the western world. Especially those that demonize themselves while making muslims look like saints.

Spanish Reconquista was an anti-colonial war through and through, you just don't want to admit it because the colonized people were white Europeans.

The two hundred years Ottoman wars were more heroic as they had an actual growing Empire marching into Europe instead of stagnant Muslim states in Iberia.

The siege of Guns and the siege of Szigetwar alone can

Portugal won more wars vs castile/Spain then viceversa.
The reconquista war was a war of the lawfull heirs of hispânia vs the ummayad invaders that fleed from syria from the abbassids.
Thanks to the war the cultures we see now developed, and great Battles like Ourique, salado and nava tolosa made te iberians stronger, and the muslims extremist, it was ONLY because nava tolosa the war became a religious one because the iberian taifas of granada hás invited the morrocons zealots to invade in exchange of land.
The chriatians won and after desteoyed granada, eventually they went for the árabe trade routs to destroy their trade monopoly on gold, spice and slaves (they raided for chriatians slaves, while trading with african Warlords)
And thats how Portugal and Spain created globalism.

And yes, the reconquista was the most patriotic war Everton.

Santiago mata mouros

No, because we hate the Turk in the Balkans.

>Portugal won more wars vs castile/Spain then viceversa.
>First Fernandine war
Castillian victory
>SecondFernandine war
Castillian victory
>Third Fernandine war
Castillian victory
>1385 crisis
Portuguese victory
>Castillian civil war
Castillian repelsion of the Portuguese and French invasion
>Portuguese succession war
Castillian victory

Oy vey, why did the inquisition hate the Jews so much? It is not like they collaborated with the muslim invaders and opened the gates of Christian cities for them.
judaism-islam.com/jews-opene-the-gates-of-toledo/

>Just Toledo
They rebelled in over 15 cities.If the muslim conquest was so fast was thank to Jews that had a big urban presence and didn't allow a real christian resistance to form in the northern cities

>surprised they picked the side that was more tolerant of other abrahamic religions

Wow, color me surprised.

>surprised they picked the side that was more tolerant of other abrahamic religions
>Betray an entire kingdom
>The descendants from this kingdom repel the invasion
>They expel they traitors
>Wtf so intolerant like woah dude
They deserve everything that they got.Isabel was too merciful with them in my opinion

Some parts of it were good. For some time. By the 11th century it had become a festering shithole.

And what is spain today? A complete shithole. This should be a lesson to all goyim who go against their jewish communities.

>And what is spain today? A complete shithole
Lol.
>This should be a lesson to all goyim who go against their jewish communities
Spain's golden age started when they kicked the Jews

I can't hear you over how shit spain is.

Spain is fucking awesome, Barcelona is easily one of the most beautiful cities on earth. Great food, great people, great lifestyle.

They're not some world power anymore, but that doesn't mean you can't lead a good life.

The average Spaniard I know leads a much better life than say, the average Japanese, despite the latter being on paper much richer.

A country without a sizable jewish community is worth less than dirt.

>the latter being on paper much richer.
Lol nope.Japan has the wages of Spain and the cost of living of Norway.Spain in terms of GDP per capita is in par with New Zeland which is pretty decent with one of the lowest costs of living in Europe

>I can't hear you
How would you? Ash has no ears

In one word? Parias.

people who believe jews are a magic source of wealth are as retarded as nazis

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parias
They paid half of their annual income to not get conquered

There were 3 more invasions appart of the umayyads: the almoravids, the almohads and the marinids. When one fell another came later

Independence war after battle of Ourique wich culminated in capturing of many galician and leonese castles in 1128.
Portuguese victory

War of Afonso the IV againts the castilan king before battle of Salado because the castilan king abused is wife (Afonso´s daugther).
The castilan king is forced to vow in front of his army and knell to Afonso the IV (we won)

D.Dinis invades Castile after the castilian king inherits Leon, and procedes to beat the living shit out of them, to force them to sign the treaty of alcanises.
Portuguese victory

The war of Portuguese sucession 1383-85
Portuguese victory

War of Castilan sucession
Castilan victory in iberia, portuguese victory in the seas and eventual signature of Treaty of tordesilhas (stalemate)

Portuguese restoration war 1640
Portuguese victory

Spanish war of sucession 1700
Allied stalemate (portuguese victory tough we took Madrid and pissed in their streets afterwards, looting would have been bad if the soldiers stayed there)

And finnaly the iberian spin-off the 7 year war, "the fantastic war"
Portuguese victory

Plus, all the victories Brasil had against spain and her colonies before independence.

This was just a off topic to respond someone from before.

About the reconquista, the war took so long because it wasn´t a religious war at first, only became a religious war after events like the siege of Lisboa (1147), battle of Salado (1340).

Most of the times the christian and muslim rulers would ally with eachother regarding the circunstances. Most warfare was actually raidings too. Only after the almohads were beaten by dissent out of the iberia the christian rulers were able to take the Tagus river, efectivelly dividing the peninsula.

Christian kingdoms started to fight each other and the arabs sent three more invasion armies apart from the first one.

siesta takes a couple hundred years

...

this is intersting. How many islamic states where there in iberia??

There is a mod for warband, and there are several cathlic factions, but only one islamic faction! It fucks up my immersion.

>War of Afonso the IV againts the castilan king before battle of Salado because the castilan king abused is wife (Afonso´s daugther).
The castilan king is forced to vow in front of his army and knell to Afonso the IV (we won)
never happened
>
>D.Dinis invades Castile after the castilian king inherits Leon, and procedes to beat the living shit out of them, to force them to sign the treaty of alcanises.
"Denis was essentially an administrator and not a warrior king. He went to war with the kingdom of Castile in 1295, relinquishing the villages of Serpa and Moura". Yeah he invaded all Castile
>The war of Portuguese sucession 1383-85
ok
>Portuguese restoration war 1640
Yeah and here you are forgeting the previous war of succesion that Spain won and the fact that Spain at the time of this war was at war with almost half of Europe
>Spanish war of sucession 1700. (portuguese victory tough we took Madrid and pissed in their streets afterwards, looting would have been bad if the soldiers stayed there)
Never happened
>And finnaly the iberian spin-off the 7 year war, "the fantastic war"
No battles were fought

Look for the taifas. Al-andalus was divided in a bunch of petty kingdoms.

>never happened

-I give this one because im too lazy to look into it

>"Denis was essentially an administrator and not a warrior king. He went to war with the kingdom of Castile in 1295, relinquishing the villages of Serpa and Moura".

-He invaded with Aragon, the goal was to divide once again Castile and Leon, but it ended in a mere border revision in favor of Portugal because the allied forces were unable to take the town of Leon.

>Yeah and here you are forgeting the previous war of succesion that Spain won and the fact that Spain at the time of this war was at war with almost half of Europe

-I didn´t forgot the previous war, it happened, consequence of the tragedy of Alcacer-Quibir, and even tough Spain was at war with half europe, Portugal was at war in many fronts too.

>Never happened

-In 1706 Madrid was taken temporarly by the Marquis of Minas after a short campaign

>No battles were fought

-In europe it made of 15000 portugues-english soldiers, while the spanish had 60000 with the french together.
It began as a guerrilla war, then it went to have a the battle Valencia de Alcantara in favor of the anglo-portuguese forces comanded by the Count of Schaumburg, there were no more because the spanish had all fleed by then.

Plus that image is innacurate and offensive because both the mustache and hair lack olive oil.

>War of Afonso the IV againts the castilan king before battle of Salado because the castilan king abused is wife (Afonso´s daugther).
>The castilan king is forced to vow in front of his army and knell to Afonso the IV (we won)
>never happened
Alfonso lost every battle in the war.It was an stalement at most and the king of Castile never knell towards the king of Portugal you made it up
>D.Dinis invades Castile after the castilian king inherits Leon, and procedes to beat the living shit out of them, to force them to sign the treaty of alcanises.
First of all the king that unified Castile with Leon was Fernando III el santo who died before Denis died.Then Denis fought no war against Castile and just chose to sign a bilateral agreement to settle the borders
>Castilan victory in iberia, portuguese victory in the seas and eventual signature of Treaty of tordesilhas (stalemate)
Delusion.First of all the treaty that was sign was the treaty of Alcaçobas.The king of Portugal renounce any claim that he had to the Castillian throwne and he was forced to put his wife in a convent
>Spanish war of sucession 1700
Allied stalemate (portuguese victory tough we took Madrid and pissed in their streets afterwards, looting would have been bad if the soldiers stayed there)
False.Madrid was always loyal to Charles until the Borbons invaded it.The Portuguese just sent reinforcements to a loyal village (and lost)
>And finnaly the iberian spin-off the 7 year war, "the fantastic war"
The fantastic war had no major battles at all.Portugal lost the colonial war hard
Btw Castile was disolved in 1714 as a kingdom but if we take 1714 Spain vs Portugal Poortugal still loses most wars

>-He invaded with Aragon, the goal was to divide once again Castile and Leon, but it ended in a mere border revision in favor of Portugal because the allied forces were unable to take the town of Leon.
False.There was an skirmish in the border and then a peace treaty was signed.Stop making things up
>Portugal was at war in many fronts too.
Some skirimishes in Brazil is not a lot of fronts compared to 5 different fronts in Europe
>-In 1706 Madrid was taken temporarly by the Marquis of Minas after a short campaign
Madrid was loyal to the Austrias spastic moron.They were reinforcements
>It began as a guerrilla war, then it went to have a the battle Valencia de Alcantara in favor of the anglo-portuguese forces comanded by the Count of Schaumburg, there were no more because the spanish had all fleed by then.
Wrong never happened.Most casualties were due small pox and the army retreated
Stop lying for crying out loud.You are just pathetic.The battle of Valencia Alcantara was an ambush and was fought between two small regiments

I took a course on Islam in the Balkans. Basically, we were told that the Devshirme system (Ottomans taking Christian boys from the Balkans, enslaving them, forcing them to convert to Islam, and forcing them into the Sultan's slave army) was a good thing because they were educated and could potentially become administrators if they survived long enough. The Ottoman millet system was the pinnacle of peace and tolerance, and Christians who were executed for blaspheming Islam were brainwashed evildoers who were trying to tarnish the sterling image of the religion of peace and tolerance.

I wish I was making this up.

a lot of that is unironically true tbqh

>being this delusional

>-False.There was an skirmish in the border and then a peace treaty was signed.Stop making things up

False to you, the portuguese king went on to siege Leon, after failing to do so, he returned to Portugal, were he received a meager peace that he accepted.

>Some skirimishes in Brazil is not a lot of fronts compared to 5 different fronts in Europe

Portugal was at war in europe, in brasil, áfrica and ásia, YOU compare a scenario of war from Portugal to Macau, with Brasil, Angola, India, Indonésia in the middle attacked too.

>-Madrid was loyal to the Austrias spastic moron.They were reinforcements

And before entering Madrid he attacked many lands like Ciudad Rodrigo, Salamanca, Plascencia on its way there
It amuses me that you get pissed of like that, just chill ok? I don´t mind learning new things, and thanks to you i learned.

>Stop lying for crying out loud.You are just pathetic.The battle of Valencia Alcantara was an ambush and was fought between two small regiments

The battle of Valencia Alcantara is like those characters in literature that represent an entire group, the battle shows how the portuguese army simply encircled and attacked one by one the retreating spanish army. It was a war of guerrila and scorched heart, there was nothing left for the enemy like in Russia 50 year later.

>king went on to siege Leon
There is no account for this other than yourself.Do you have a hidden source
>The battle of Valencia Alcantara
It had 3000 Portuguese troops ambushing 4000 Spanish troops.That is not a major battle by any means.The Spanish and French troops just retreated after losing half of the effectives by diseases

It is just that the Spaniards were merciful enough to let alive Cordoba, the could have finished the reconquista 200 years before Isabella if they wanted.

>to let alive Cordoba
Granada.And the reasons were parias.The emir of Granada was a vassal of Castile

let Cordoba live*

>Alfonso lost every battle in the war.It was an stalement at most and the king of Castile never knell towards the king of Portugal you made it up

He never knelt, i was being lazy with the eufemism, he was forced to ask his wife to go talk to her father for peace, wich was seen as something dowgranding for some reason

>Delusion.First of all the treaty that was sign was the treaty of Alcaçobas.The king of Portugal renounce any claim that he had to the Castillian throwne and he was forced to put his wife in a convent

The queen was just a political weapon as the claim was hers and the king alredy had heir, the treaty of alcobaças gave Portugal the monopoly of guinea in a time the goal was india. Thanks to this treaty the treaty of tordesilhas would be signed as an update of the previous.

The fantastic war had no major battles at all.Portugal lost the colonial war hard
Btw Castile was disolved in 1714 as a kingdom but if we take 1714 Spain vs Portugal Poortugal still loses most wars

Portugal, or Poortugal (i don´t care because its true, still beats being shitless unemployed muslim lover) beated spain without major battles in the fantastic war because they were outsmarted.
Yet half of the spanish armies died or got captured in the most idiotic way, thanks.
Some say spain began in 1492 after taking granada some say it was in 1714 after the bourbons came to power (i agree with those)
Yet since then Portugal and spain was at war 3 times that i remember, 7 year war, Oranjes war and Peninsular war, only with this record can spain match Portugal, and im being friendly because i took into account the fact they turned on napoleon.
castile got beaten many more times, it was fun actually.

>king went on to siege Leon
There is no account for this other than yourself.Do you have a hidden source

I have (had a book) named portuguese battles from ourique to aljubarrota, in portuguese (both the name and the title), i dont remember its sources though.

P.S to talk about this it would be better to created a dedicated topic instead of spamming other about the reconquista.

>He never knelt, i was being lazy with the eufemism, he was forced to ask his wife to go talk to her father for peace, wich was seen as something dowgranding for some reason
Alfonso lost every battle.The war was pointless and claiming it as a Portuguese victory is just lying.In any case it would be a Castillian victory or a stalement
>
Portugal, or Poortugal (i don´t care because its true, still beats being shitless unemployed muslim lover) beated spain without major battles in the fantastic war because they were outsmarted.
Yet half of the spanish armies died or got captured in the most idiotic way, thanks.
Some say spain began in 1492 after taking granada some say it was in 1714 after the bourbons came to power (i agree with those)
Yet since then Portugal and spain was at war 3 times that i remember, 7 year war, Oranjes war and Peninsular war, only with this record can spain match Portugal, and im being friendly because i took into account the fact they turned on napoleon.
>castile got beaten many more times, it was fun actually.
Castile beat Portugal more times than the other way around
>First Fernandine war
Castillian victory
>SecondFernandine war
Castillian victory
>Third Fernandine war
Castillian victory
>1385 crisis
Portuguese victory
>Castillian civil war
Castillian repelsion of the Portuguese and French invasion
>Portuguese succession war
Castillian victory
Portugal lost 3 wars against Spain in the XVIII century.Portugal won 2.You are just deluded

>The battle of Valencia Alcantara
It had 3000 Portuguese troops ambushing 4000 Spanish troops.That is not a major battle by any means.The Spanish and French troops just retreated after losing half of the effectives by diseases.

Yes they were retreating because they had diseases, they were running low on suplies and were started to get hit by partisans doing guerrilla. The battle of Valencia of Alcantara is used in Portugal to refer to the count of Lippe and his jobs as a hiriling. He wanst important here because he did great battles like Gaugamela, or Cannae, but for the humle task of reorganizing the armies while giving orders on how to resist invasion, is service in the end culminated in using geography to kill and capture as many spanish as possible while they went back to Spain.
That´s why its called the fantastic war, there was hardly any destruction, or casualties for the invaded nation, while the invading nation would take most of the damages of the war.

>Portuguese succession war
Castillian victory

Portuguese restoration

>Castillian civil war
Castillian repelsion of the Portuguese and French invasion

Castile ceded everything south of the canaries to Portugal and was FORCED to accept Afonso son of Jonh II as heir (he later was murdered).

>The Fernandine wars could as well be just one, as the truce was never respected by the Portuguese king, but the times Portugal and other Spamish kingdoms went to war are uncontable, as there were many events like the attempt to take Badajoz in 1169.

Alfonso lost every battle.The war was pointless and claiming it as a Portuguese victory is just lying.In any case it would be a Castillian victory or a stalement

I agree the war was poitless, yet Afonso could have just waited to see the almohad and granada take castile, just for funs, and the castilan king knew, thats why he zipped it and seeked out for peace.

From the XVIII i dont see were Portugal had 3 wars on spain orther the ones i said, there was the war of spainsh sucession wich lead to treaty of utrecht, the war the 7 years, in wich Portugal was in the good side, there was the war of the oranjes, Portugal lost, and after that spain invaded Portugal with france in the peninsular war, turining to the anglo-portuguese side midway trough.

>Portuguese succession war
Castillian victory

It lead to the Portuguese restoration

>Castillian civil war
Castillian repelsion of the Portuguese and French invasion

It lead to Castile ceding everything south of the canaries to Portugal and was FORCED to accept Afonso son of Jonh II as heir (he later was murdered).

>The Fernandine wars could as well be just one, as the truce was never respected by the Portuguese king, but the times Portugal and other Spamish kingdoms went to war are uncontable, as there were many events like the attempt to take Badajoz in 1169.

-Alfonso lost every battle.The war was pointless and claiming it as a Portuguese victory is just lying.In any case it would be a Castillian victory or a stalement

I agree the war was poitless, yet Afonso could have just waited to see the almohad and granada take castile, just for funs, and the castilan king knew, thats why he zipped it and seeked out for peace.

There were also before the battle like S.Mamede, wich the spanish have to aknowledge, as their own, since it doesnt matter if their castilan or catalan, from 1714 to 2017 they all became the same thing,

From the XVIII i dont see were Portugal had 3 wars on spain other the ones i said, there was the war of spainsh sucession wich lead to treaty of utrecht, the war the 7 years, in wich Portugal was in the good side, there was the war of the oranjes, Portugal lost, and after that spain invaded Portugal with france in the peninsular war, turining to the anglo-portuguese side midway trough.

>I agree the war was poitless, yet Afonso could have just waited to see the almohad and granada take castile, just for funs, and the castilan king knew, thats why he zipped it and seeked out for peace.
Do you really believe this? Alfonso went almost bankrupt and his wife told him to just stop
>From the XVIII i dont see were Portugal had 3 wars
1777
War of the oranges
The two expeditions of Sacramento y el Rio Grande
The invasion of Portugal
Btw this is the war that you claim that the Portuguese won, when they lost to a side of a civil war alone. Castile has won over 8 wars to Portugal while Protugal has won 2.You literally had to made up a stories to make Portugal look badass