Napoleon or Genghis Khan?
Who else?
>INB4 Hitler.
Napoleon or Genghis Khan?
Who else?
>INB4 Hitler.
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OP can't inb4.
Hitler.
Jan Soblieski or whatever his name was.
Also:
>this op
It was 13 year old tier.
Pancho Villa
Hitler
Hitler
I imagine a lot of psychopathic leader-guys in history, and in the present, have f'd or killed their own mothers (their wives, sisters and daughters too). Check the news. All of them deserve that title.
John Churchill - Napoleon would agree before you pseuds cry brit bias.
Napoleon was cool. The Mongols were terrifying.
Genghis Kahn. For simply creating the modern fucking world. No Genghis? No Napoleon. Way to put your horse before the cart, you sinicized wheat farmer.
>Sobieski
Low energy, low test beta who won like two battles and fucked everything else up.
t. Lindybeige
Zizka
>be winning
>lose sight in one eye
>keep winning
>lose sight in both eyes
>keep winning
Alkibiades of course
Basil "I for an I" the Bulgarslayer
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.
>BTFO Anglos at Gallipoli by drastically exceeding your authority and taking de facto command of several divisions
>inflict on the Anglos their worse defeat in centuries despite having a massive disadvantage in men and materiel, saving your country from getting knocked out of the war early
>command troops in dozens of other battles throughout the war, historians widely agree that you were the best general your country had
>decide you don't like the empire you saved and choose to overthrow it to make a modern republic
>Greekshits and frogs don't like this and try to carve off parts of your country
>create a new army from scratch after your country lost literally 1/4 of its population a year before
>BTFO the Greeks and French despite being at a disadvantage in every area of men and materiel
>form a new country from scratch
>BTFO all rebellions
>have the leaders of the old empire exiled where they all die in squalor
>take a traditionalist society half of which literally live in medieval-esque conditions and modernize that shit
>push secularism on a devoutly religious populous, they accept it
>drastically expand rights for women and again somehow get the population to accept this
>get 18 female MPs in parliament at a time when women in a significant number of European countries had no voting rights
>bang hot hungarian actresses on the side
>adopt tons of children because you can
>your adopted daughter becomes the first female fighter pilot ever
>be so respected after all of this that your people TO THIS DAY still worship you and have a portrait or statue of you in every building
>even people who plainly disagree with your policies have to at least give lip service to how amazing you are lest they get strung up by the general population
>declare your birthday the same day as the founding of the country you created and receive the surname "Father of Turks", a name illegal for anyone else to have
One of the most based men in history.
Justinian II
>wins battles and conquers
>levies taxes on the fat nobles
>gets overthrown and disfigured
>marries into bulgarian royalty
>comes back and retakes his thrown
>fucking enacts a brutal witchhunt of every person who has ever wronged him and has them all killed
also, define Bad Motherfucker
Hitler.
Basically every prussians that every existed.
Napoleon did absolutely nothing wrong, he was just defending France and himself, not his faults if their offensive wars turned them conquered.
Ivan the Terrible
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Just because someone's existence was necessary for another's doesn't make them based. Newton's father could have been a drunken kid fondler and deserves no credit for what happened outside his control.
Not to say that Genghis isn't the obvious answer, it's just sad to see such a terrible argument for him is all.
Hitler
Jose de San Martin deserves an honorable mention
Bolivar as well
Timur. Dude was a badass even beyond death.
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Elon Musk
Tamerlane
BASED
Hitler
...
Hitler
Oedipus, quite literally
>you will never ride into battle on a horse with a horde of your brothers to your side
>you will never cuck your enemies or take their daughters before their eyes
why live?