Hunting and gathering > agriculture

>Hunter-gatherers knew neither hunger, nor disease.

>According to experts by the year 2100 disease and hunger will have been completely eradicated from the world.

>Agriculture began around the year 9.500 B.C.

>It took Humanity around 11.600 years to make it back into prosperity.

What went wrong?

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>knew neither hunger or disease

Spectacular citations needed

To many people on the planet to rely on hunting and gathering so they started farming.

news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/07/oldest-human-cancer-disease-origins-tumor-fossil-science/

>Hunter-gatherers knew neither hunger, nor disease.

?????

No epidemics, though.

>Hunter-gatherers knew neither hunger, nor disease.
Nope.
>According to experts by the year 2100 disease and hunger will have been completely eradicated from the world.
Agree
>Agriculture began around the year 9.500 B.C.
More around 10 000 BC but it counts so yes.
>It took Humanity around 11.600 years to make it back into prosperity.
Define ''Prosperity''.
>What went wrong?
Nothing really.

>Hunter-gatherers knew neither hunger, nor disease.

that's blatantly wrong user

Have you ever read accounts of civilized people encountering hunter gatherers?

Without fail they mention how nasty brutish and short their lives were.

More people >>> fewer people.

Not only did farming people outnumber hunter-gatherers militarily, they also produced far more culture and technology because more brains to do the thinking and division of labor to allow artistic people to refine their techniques.

So while a H-G may have had a healthier and in many ways "better" life, it's no mystery that it was the settled people who invented the internet in 10,000 years while H-G barely innovated over hundreds of thousands of years.

Good point actually

Did we domesticate wheat, or did wheat domesticate us?

Yeah but thats not from disease or famine its just that hunter gatherers constantly murder each other and fight wars

Hunting and Gathering age was the most best and comfiest age to be alive in. Literally no racism,wars and famines

Don't be a tool

johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/life_history/aging_evolution/hill_2007_hiwi_mortality.html

GREAT SOURCES THERE OP

There certainly was disease and hunger back then, albeit less. This because large numbers of humans and large numbers of animals together helps breed disease, not forgetting pathogens evolving past the drugs we keep giving animals and such.

We need to set up a model of civilisation that avoids giving drugs to animals unless blindly necessary and that also makes the world more spaced out. Also, we need to do something about climate change.

>>Hunter-gatherers knew neither hunger, nor disease.
lol wat

anth.ucsb.edu/faculty/gurven/papers/GurvenKaplan2007pdr.pdf


??? ???

No proof for this claim either

More like after discovering farming they got lazy and relied on it too much and when the population grew too much it led to the instabilities we've had up to now.

anyway, the point is, hunter-gatherers indeed had shorter lives (but not as short as some would claim) than we do today.
But, their lives were comparable in longetivity to 18th century agricultural societies.

It's the advent of modern medicine, food, hygienics and so on that vastly improved our lives.

Of course some people fell ill and some people were afflicted with hunger, but there were no famines and no epidemics. No hunger and no disease on a grand scale.

There was no famines and no epidemics because there wasn't as many people at the same place.

What the fuck dude. You think they didn't starve to death or got killed by stepping on a rock causing an infection?

No, people started farming to have a mire stable source of food. This led to an abundance of food which led to a huge boom in population, then it turned out agriculture can only feed so much people which led to frequent starvation and countless hours of work on the field just to sustain the population.

>Literally no racism

I'm going to get called "pool" for this by why do people unfailing add racism to one of the greatest sins of humanity? "Racism" probably didn't exist but it's just a facet of perceived in-out group functions and I'm sure tribalism always existed. It makes as much sense to hate someone for their phenotypic features as for their opinions and beliefs.

discovermagazine.com/1987/may/02-the-worst-mistake-in-the-history-of-the-human-race

Hunter-gatherers were violent as fuck, haven't you read Pinker?