Which country is the Third Rome?

Are you retarded? Greeks didn't found the Roman empire.Romans conquered Greeks. Just like Japan adopted Chinese culture, Romans adopted a lot of Greek culture. That doesn't make them Greeks.

There's no spiritual continuity. It's dead.
And just how pathetic should a country be that it needs to LARP as some completely unrelated ancient empire instead of having its own unique identity.

>we aren't our own entity with our own achievements to be proud of, we are just continuing some forgotten thing from centuries ago, we are actually ashamed to be ourselves

The Latins weren't greek, they had a very similar pantheon but they were separate peoples.

Russia, btw fourth Rome is Finland.

If you read a book you would known that the colony of Latin territory(Rome) was founded by greeks who fled from Troy as refugees after its downfall.

They might have been a minority in the region they colonized, but they still founded one of the greatest states of its time, giving the local populous a greek religion, a greek language infused with their own and the phalanax system.

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>There's no spiritual continuity. It's dead.
Not true. The Orthodox tradition is the spiritual continuity. The Orthodox church is only growing in Russia. It isn't larping at all.

Im gonna throw one out there that I don't hear often, but Paris during the First French Empire

What is that, from the fucking Aeneid?
That's not how it really went. Unless you believe the Franks were a lost tribe of Israel.

>believing the mythical origin stories of city states
You are disgusting

youtube.com/watch?v=ItwGz43a_ak

>his shitpost has so many levels I only just realised it was the Aenid
Top Lad

So basically you are unable to distinguish between mythology and actual history.

Please leave this board.

Yeah, I listened to a reference this too, but what are the other theories derived from anthropological study and archeology?

The only archeological evidence come from Etruscan inscribings.

What does Orthodoxy have to with this?
Russia doesn't have a special monopoly on Orthodoxy and it was converted much later.

Greece and even the orthodox countries in the Balkans would have a better claim if you with this line of thinking. Greece especially since they're actual Greeks/remnants of the Eastern Roman Empire.

You're right you win, all of the evidence that the Latins we're not greek is fake. The only reliable account of the origin of the Latin people is Virgil's Aeneid written during the reign of Augustus.

>the Patriarch of Constantinople moving to Russia and declaring it the new capital does not count
WEW LAD

A) Orthodox Christianity had nothing to do with Rome or the original Roman Empire. If you replace the boards of a ship one by one until you have replaced everything when does it become a different ship?
B) By your logic the entire Catholic world is the third Rome as well.

Even in the mythology, the people from Troy intermixed heavily with the already present Latins

How long will it take China to claim to be the second Britania?

>creating your own example rather than just doing the broom example

Do we agree on Belgium?

>big economy
>belligerent diplomacy
>terrible at war
All they need is a proper navy and they're good to go.

They will never be a "second" Britannia, they cant even secure a southern sea named after them

comparing that to the British is almost insulting

Nazi Germany was the Third Rome
Napoleonic France was the second one

Bosnia is the true successor of both Rome and the Caliphate.

this tbqhwyf

Orthodoxy is the continuation of the Roman tradition from an orthodox perspectives
This
The "logic" is an orthodox perspective. I understand that's hard for your mind to comprehend but humor the notion other people have different perspectives than you do.

>Finland
Finland?
FINLAND?

I bet the Hyper Mongolians have something to say about that...

>Patriarch of Constantimeme recognizes Mehmet the Conqueror as Caesar
>not the heir of rome

Sooo, if faith dictates "Romanness", was Charlemagne really the emperor since the pope said so?
Are you willing to concede the same gravity to the
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claim of being the Roman Empire?

>Orthodoxy is the continuation of the Roman tradition

Assuming this is somehow true, other majority Orthodox nations exist, some were Orthodox before Russian was even founded as a country.
Some of these where even part of the Roman Empire for centuries.

Why would it count? This singular statement somehow turns everything on its head and make Russia somehow connected to Rome?
Constantinople was conquered and thus the last successor of the Empire was annihilated. Period
Imperial Rome completely disappears from history.
What some exiles did were just acts of despair.

>eagles = rome
Nope HRE is second rome hence the 2 eagles

>patriarch said this to save his skin, we will also ignore when the patriarch in good faith says Russia is third rome
Finland's 4th Rome but apart from that correct

>WRE illegitimate
why

If you think the Byzantine empire was the successor state to the Roman Empire, then Russia is third Rome. If you think the HRE is the successor state, then Belgium is Third Rome

There is something really charming about France and French history.

>lost Roma
>Orthodoxy is the true faith
>had non-Roman citiziens unlike ERE
The arguments I could think of off the top of my head

>patriarch would rather get executed than convert
>but he's a coward in this case anyway

Russia was never part of the Roman Empire and no legal connection to it whatsoever.
The Byzantine empire was literally a chunk of the Roman empire.

>is a Christian
>doesn't want to die a Christian death
>therefore heretic or sinner so his point is moot until he receives the sacrament of reconciliation
Got Milk!

You do realize the Latins are a sub-group of Italics who all speak a different language and culture separate from Greek colonists who were largely located around mostly Southern Italy right?

Obviously America is the modern Rome, and the true church is the LDS church. It's a purely spiritual state of affairs. There is no proper historical successor for Rome, but there is a spiritual successor of republic-turned-empire that continues the persecution of true Christians and fulfills revelation prophecy.

I've heard the ship example on multiple occasions from different sources. Get edumucated.

So this allows christians to lie any time they want?

>gets called out for the holes in his logic
>whoa, duuuuuude. stop being such a jerk and accept that other people such as myself have a right to be wrong in their own ways

France, only France of all the European nations continues the grandeur of Rome

Mexico

>2nd one isn't even Charlemagne's Empire
Cmon

Barbados.

Kek.

A little too much red wine tonight, Henri?

Wales, unironically

>Get educated
Darling if you weren't private schooled educated in the Heartland of the Empire then you can go back to your Rebel hovel
You could rape, as long as you sincerely confessed the sin, honestly read Catholic Theology and don't stop when it says fags go to hell

>France
>Grandeur
No that's either GB or Russia
Which Troian refugees do you have?

>they cant even secure a southern sea named after them

BTFO
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BRITANIA RULES TEH WAVES
BRITANIA WILL NEVER BE SLAVES....except that one time....

>what is Crimea

Not guy you were talking to but

>Former Roman land which got taken by Genoa which then got taken by the Mongols which then got taken by the We wuz khans which was then annexed by Russia and then it wasn't part of Russia and now it is part of Russia.

>On Veeky Forums
>Never heard of The Ship of Theseus

Ooohh public school woes

the united states of america

I unironically belive it was the Ottomans, they came the closest to reuniting the Mediterranean under one banner.

Osman was not a Greek you Turkish autist

Underrated

WE WUZ TROJANS N SHEEEIITTT

Carolingians -> HRE -> Habsburgs -> Austrian Empire -> Austria-Hungary -> Austria

IN DESCENDING CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER:

FIRST ROME: BYZANTINE EMPIRE = TROY.

SECOND ROME: RURIK/RUS EMPIRE = ROMA = LATINOKRATIA = HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE = HABSBURG EMPIRE.

THIRD ROME: THIRD REICH.

FIRST ROME:

TROY, CAPITAL OF BYZANTION, FOUNDED BY BYZAS/ILOS.

SECOND ROME:

1. THE RUS EMPIRE, FOUNDED BY RURIK/AENEAS.

1.1 LATINOKRATIA/MAGNA GRAECIA, FOUNDED BY THE CRUSADING ARMIES THAT INVADED BYZANTEON.

1.2 ROMA, ITALIA, FOUNDED BY ONE, OR TWO, DESCENDANTS OF RURIK/AENEAS, NAMED SINEUS, AND TROVUS/BORIS, AND GLEB/ROMAN, AND DAVID/ROMULUS, AND REMUS.

1.3 SACRUM IMPERIUM ROMANUM.

1.4 HABSBURG EMPIRE.

THESE FIVE ARE PERIODS OF A SINGLE ROMAN CONTINUUM".

THIRD ROME:

GERMANIA, CAPITAL OF THE THIRD REICH, FOUNDED BY ADOLF HITLER.

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They didn't found the USA famalam. They founded shitty mongolian deathballs and got blown the fuck out.

>Crimea
>Russian

the ones succeed them by rights of conquest obviously also the the one that was the most open to a multicultural/ethnic empire

A village in Kenya is missing its idiot.

>If you think the HRE is the successor state, then Belgium is Third Rome
You mean Liechtenstein?

> a Greek founded Rome

Nobody knows who founded Rome. Unless you're talking about Romulus which is just Pure Fantasy. Anyways the Etruscans founded room and they weren't Greek.

Lord. The Trojans were not Greeks they bought the Greek's. were Asians. The Aeneid isn't history it's mythology. Greek settle southern Italy before Rome was founded in the italic peoples of the peninsula adopted much of their culture including their religion. You should really leave this board.

but Lichenstein doesn't control tens of client states with no standing army of it's own?

Zimbabwe

Lmao please just leave

Libya

None. Just let it go

the spirit of Rome died way before the fall of the empire, to pretend anyone inherited it is delusional.

>The arguments I could think of off the top of my head
So literally none?

>trojans
>greek

We're a bit silly at times, but we really do try our best