Do good women prone to traditional pair-bonding still exist or have they been systematically ruined by certain interest groups bombarding the youth with subversive information?
It's a rather tough sociological problem to solve, I think a society would be happier if it toned down hookups etc.
They are more common than in the last 50 years.
On what are you basing this?
>God
>Family
>Nation
>Race
>Masculinity
These are all targeted for destruction by the Cultural Marxists.
Liberals, progressives, commies and "social justice" revolutionaries are a cancer that wants to undermine western civilization and destroy everything that made it so great.
That includes the family nucleus. They want children to be raised by the state.
Authoritarian leftists hate strong traditional family roles.
>the reason I don't have a girlfriend is because of everything but me
Grow up.
>do as god says or you will be punished
>Do as your nation says or else you are unpatriotic
>women should remain in the roles we define for them
>calls other authoritarians
What you are seeing is a direct response to personal liberty bein expanded.
You can't tell people how they should be living their lives and claim others are the authoritarians
Traditional libertarian, free market, capitalistic, Protestant Christian America was for little government.
SJW post-modern radical leftists, antifa faggots and relativist atheists are for big government. The state becomes god.
One is for individual freedom and rights, the other is for centralization and collectivism.
Socialism killed Europe and now it's killing America.
>m-muh liberals and socialists
Again, you cannot claim to be for small government that stays out of peoples' lives and at the same time telling people what their family role is, how they should feel about their nation, and how they should feel about God.
If you are for smaller government meddling less in people's day to day, then women have the personal liberty to choose whatever role they wish, people have the freedom to worship or not, and choose whatever barometer they want for "masculinity"
Again, you can't dictate the values of others and then declare others are in opposition of liberty. I recommend you look up cognitive dissonance.
I don't tell people how families work, nature and biology does.
Facts > your feminist feelings
Children are being brainwashed by the liberal media since the mother is at work until 4pm so is unable to shield little boys and girls from certain programs bend on destroying them.
Women don't belong in the workplace, but I agree that this is also the fault of too much "freedom" /capitalism.
>Biology and nature
>Deternining anything in an increasingly unnatural and technologic world
Wrong. The market is the determining factor of gender roles and directly benefits from the expanded workforce and increased competetitiveness brought by women working. The trend of jobs shifting to service industry suits women just as well as men.
And the choice of work ultimately comes down to the individual's right to choose whatever they wish to make of their life.
too obvious, work on it next time
>Women don't belong in the workplace
Where do women belong then?
I'd say at home, managing the household and taking care of the offspring, but it's just my opinion.
The problem is that such an opinion is usually disregarded by modern communities for being offensive however it's just another point of view, being a housewife is a full time job as well and likely does more good than harm.
That has more to do with increasing economic struggle than any kind of social shift. Most families now can't afford a spouse not bringing in some form of revenue.
>The problem is that such an opinion is usually disregarded by modern communities for being offensive
Because it is rightfully viewed as an attempt to undermine the freedoms that women now take for granted.
Also this
>That has more to do with increasing economic struggle than any kind of social shift. Most families now can't afford a spouse not bringing in some form of revenue.
I agree, sadly that's the modern market for you.
Actually most of those values were destroyed by capitalists in the 70's, 80's, and 90's while they pointed the finger at Communists so people like you would be distracted by what they were doing.
Reminder that the peak of what you opine for was a time of heavy government protectionism in the market, strong unions in the workplace, heavy taxes on the rich, and cheap education for the citizens.
And it was systemically picked apart by global capitalists.
It's hardly the fault of the individual that hookups and one night stands dominate modern social dynamics as opposed to more traditional dating.
And the rest of the world being a blown up crater.
>Cultural Marxists.
stopped reading there
they still exist as an endangered species
>more traditional dating.
Leaving aside the fact that you probably think of as "traditional dating" hasn't been the norm for long enough to really be much of a tradition, there are hundreds websites that exist for the sole purpose of introducing people who want a long-term relationship to other people of the same mindset. You have no excuse except inadequacy.
Internet dating is not the same as spontaneous bonding in real life, you can't really meet healthy individuals online.
I don't have trouble hooking up, but if a girl is willing to fuck me the same day we meet then she is not a healthy individual worthy of respect. I'm lamenting the fact that this is becoming the norm instead of agreeing for lunch and then seeing where that leads.
There is a strain of sociological/psychological thought that does want to pathologize certain traditional attitudes though, you can't deny that.
>>this thread again
Modern hookup culture is the ultimate result of improved methods of contraception and STD prevention. You can't uninvent the pill and the condom, so hookup culture isn't going anywhere.
Calling people inadequate is not an argument.
I agree in part but the advanced methods of contraception improve traditional pair bonding as well, having sex with a person you feel emotionally bonded to releases way more serotonin/dopamine thus enhancing the relationship.
A one night stand is just a long winded slightly enhanced nut-bust, and the media should promote the former.
>Meet cute traditional girl
>start explaining your anti-Semitic, neoreactionary philosophy to her
>she thinks your weird and whats nothing to do with you
Nah its hypocrisy, women are free to whatever they wanted but if they become conservative they get mocked for it
Get an Asian, they're still traditional and feminine and don't mind you being racist, changes are she's racist too
>traditional pair-bonding
kek
we just had this thread
Not him but wanting to have a traditional marriage AND a pure society while spawning Elliot Rodgers is hypocritical as fuck.
No one wants traditional marriage and a pure society, thank God.
Nice way to say nothing. There's also a strain of medical thought that does want to pathologize certain traditional attitudes. These thinkers tries to claim that smoking cause cancer and cigarettes are addictive.
I do.
How traditional, club over the head and back to the cave traditional? How pure? Purge the impoverished and drunks pure?
>you can't really meet healthy individuals online
Okay you poor snowflake mental grandpa. I know you sit on /pol/ all day talking about muh 50's America and muh non-degeneracy. But literally everyone is online. It isn't 1995 anymore. Literally everyone. Except you, as everyone has said, sitting in your mom's basement complaining about how the whole world is bad except you and your friends on the containment section of a Malaysian snowshoeing image board.
>I don't have trouble hooking up.
We know you can barely talk to women retard. You think chad goes home and cries himself to sleep because that slut he just took home isn't waifu material? Just kill yourself already.
>you can't really meet healthy individuals online
To be fair, online dating is very skewed. Normal and hot women are flooded with messages, so if you're just a normal dude you aren't going to get 2 seconds of their time.
Tinder is good though, I've found a few FWB on there. Most people on tinder understand it's not serious, but women are increasingly "looking for something long term."
ITT: Losers find excuses and blame society for their own inadequacies and shitty personalities.
Women who just want to fuck are just gonna fuck, and women who want a monogamous relationship are gonna want monogamous relationships, same with men.
MGTOWS and Feminists were just monogamous faggots buttmad that the non-monogamous ones have no interest in being in monogamous relationships(SURPRISE).
Non-monogamous "elite" may look incredibly attractive but when they aren't trying they look average as fuck.
purge degenerates
Women are more than willing to enter monogamous relationships. They absolutely love having a masculine figure in their life, albeit a healthy amount of masculinity, one which springs from confidence rather than that which springs from insecurity.
Scapegoating the issue by shouting "Traditional girls don't exist, they're all sluts and whores" at the top of your lungs doesn't help you. Blaming it on the "Cultural Marxists" (aka fancy way of saying The Jews) doesn't make things better for you.
There has been a sexual revolution and there's nothing inherently wrong with hookup culture. Some people just want to have fun and aren't looking for anything serious or long-term. At least with Tinder, it seems more ethical and less rapey if both are interested to begin with and make their intentions clear from the start. The traditional girls that you're after are still there although you probably won't find them on dating sites and things like that. Although in my experience, people are more than likely actually looking for relationships off of Tinder these days.
Ecclesiastes 7:28—while I was still searching but not finding-- I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.
Do we all realize that just because a bunch of males on a Kryzakstanian canyon yodeling website say they can hook up with a female at the drop of a hat, that doesn't make it true? And even if it is true, that doesn't mean it's the norm for an entire country?
>at the drop of a hat
It's because you have no idea how much that hat cost.
>life is an unending gay-trans-commie-feminist parade
>the biggest problem in my life is people ocasionally acting like twats outside my window
Drama. Queen.
The problem is when the sluts who used to ride the cock carousel start panicing after turning 27 and then desperately trying to hide their past.
Well how high is your upper limit for women then?
I'm reading this as "I can't find a woman nor can I get hook-ups"
Git Gud
Japan/ Gookland / Taiwan /Singapore / Latin America were not "blown our craters" 1960-1980
how about we try to achieve our goals without violence, like civilized human beings?
Ad hominem
Well that depends on her age but I don't see why a person would chimp out if a girl has been in serious monogamous relationships before which didn't work out.
Just find a homely nerdy girl OP. Unless you're godawful repulsive you are probably the first guy who ever paid romantic attention to her. She'll be grateful for it. If she rejects you don't sweat and try again.
If you keep getting no'd, ask yourself where the problems lie.
Even 2/10s get insane amounts of attention in online dating.
If you go outside once in a while and stop believing everything you hear on Veeky Forums you'll get your answer
It has a lot to do with the collapse of community, political and religious organisations.
Young people just don't have a non sexual context where they can meet eachother outside of highschool or university.
just because you don't doesn't mean noone does
normal people have jobs, hobbies, etc that all involve meeting people of the opposite sex
you're not attractive, sorry mate
>Grrls just want to have fun teehee!
Degenerate scum. Find ""fun"" in a more wholesome activity, rather than such a hedonistic pleasure
>Tfw 20 yo gf wants to get married and have children with me
Feels good man
We found the inadapted poltard, get back to your containment board. You made Trump to ne elected, now you want to impeach him...
Oh yes I have found one. we are currently together.
Too bad she's not a virgin though because of rape.
Oh well, at least the town rapist does his job
I'm sorry user but you're just fucking wrong, pic related, from Bowling Alone, the entire book is back to back statistics and evidence all showing that community engagement in ever aspect has plummeted in America.
Even in politics, the only form of involvement that hasn't just taken a complete nosedive are things that can be done on your own and even they are declining.
Congrats anons, hope it works out well.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 New International Version (NIV)
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
Deuteronomy 24 New Living Translation (NLT)
24 “Suppose a man marries a woman but she does not please him. Having discovered something wrong with her, he writes a document of divorce, hands it to her, and sends her away from his house. 2 When she leaves his house, she is free to marry another man. 3 But if the second husband also turns against her, writes a document of divorce, hands it to her, and sends her away, or if he dies, 4 the first husband may not marry her again, for she has been defiled. That would be detestable to the Lord. You must not bring guilt upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as a special possession.
Mark 10:8 and the two will become one flesh.’[a] So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
Footnotes:
Mark 10:8 Gen. 2:24
1 Timothy 3:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Leviticus 21:13-14 New International Version
13 "'The woman he marries must be a virgin.
14 He must not marry a widow, a divorced woman, or a woman defiled by prostitution, but only a virgin from his own people,
1 Corinthians 6:16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh."