Women are the gatekeepers of sex and the agents of partner selection

Yyyyyyep

>Chimpanzee dick is half of a normal male's median size.

Wrong.

carta.anthropogeny.org/moca/topics/penis-size-and-morphology

>Humans are often claimed to have the largest penises among primates. This is true for penile girth, but not for length given that chimpanzee and bonobo erect penis length is comparable to that of humans (erect length 14 - 17 cm). Unlike humans, chimpanzee and bonobo penises are filiform (tapered into a narrow tip) with no visible glans penis.

>here are all of my sources

No. It may not be natural but it's the best set up.

>monogamous marriage is superior to polygamy
>Dude you're jusy a virgin get laid
Where the fuck does this come from? You hiding some insecurities of your own?

I see in 10 replies it's turned into a discussion about animal dicks but I'll try to keep on subject.

>Can civilized society exist without monogamy, even if its just while having kids below 18?

No, but only because their monogamous rival societies would defeat them. A society of 75% women and 25% men is not as strong as one with more men to defend it. If they had no rivals they would do reasonably fine. The issue would be what to do with all the displaced males. Slavery was the general answer of the past. If slaves made better soldiers there would be no issue.

t. virgin

answer me honestly

are you a virgin?

another episode of /r9his

What about 75% women and 25% women?

>One female might be stupid enough to give your sorry ass a chance.
So you are still implying that no matter what he does, it will be still irrational and undeservable for him to get a female and he will be able to get one only through the tricks. I would suggest you to kys :^)

length times girth equals size moron

if you have a 6 inch chode and a 6 inch needle dick who is going to say they're the same size?

Being this stupid ...

you guys are missing the point
how's girth going to give you an evolutionary advantage regarding sperm competition inside the vagina

A fat knob will drag other dudes cum out better

yeah gonna need a source on that

This is actually well established. Human dick is shovel shaped to scoop out other men's semen following a GB.

This is why we're designed to go limp right after ejacing. If you kept banging you'd scoop your own boys out.

Dick size is more about female preference. Rape is an opportunistic mating strategy, but not a common one. We evolved to care about our families' genes and raping in small bands is a good way to get murdered by her adult brothers/uncles/dad.

You only GB other bands women.

>churchgoing Christian, 20 years old
>my parish has 3 young women for every young guy
>tfw life on easy mode

when do you get married and start pumping kids out, slave?

>slave

Why would you think that? We're all happy with our beliefs and lifestyle.

>when do you get married and start pumping kids out

When I finish college (in 2 years) and I can support a family. We believe that any form of contraception is a sin, so I'm getting ready for 5+ kids over her reproductive period (NFP, or natural family planning can be used).

and what about then? after the fifth kid comes around? Do you stop sex completely or risk getting even more babies that you can't afford?

usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/natural-family-planning/what-is-nfp/

Well, the goal is to breed like rabbits during the wife's reproductive period and then once she is 40+ and pregnancies can result in sick children, you use NFP (natural family planning). It's very effective at preventing pregnancies without the use of any medications.

>NFP methods are based on the observation of the naturally occurring signs and symptoms of the fertile and infertile phases of a woman's menstrual cycle. No drugs, devices, or surgical procedures are used to avoid pregnancy.

How about you answer his question rather then just asking him whether he had sex or not? We live in the world of tinder hookups with daddy issues sluts and online directories of "adult escorts" and "asian massage parlors" sex is pretty fucking trivial to get and for very little risk. What's harder is quality relationships suitable for raising children.

>>NFP is very effective when a woman is past her peak reproductive period
lol you're funny and you seriously believe the bullshit spouted by the catholic church, which is even more funny.

so you gonna believe a fucking calendar to not get more babies
I guess such naivety and gullibility is needed for belief in any higher power
have fun in your life tho, I hope you live it the way you want and everything comes together just right

Just to add on: you don't stop having sex.

>babies that you can't afford?

What makes you think that? This is the mentality that results in Christians outnumbering atheists in the west.

> seriously believe the bullshit spouted by the catholic church

If you're referring to NFP, it's effective. I know married couples that are using it.

If you're referring to theology, I'd love to answer any questions you have.

>believe a fucking calendar to not get more babies

That's why it's called 'natural' family planning.

Thanks, I guess. You too.

I'm not the one you were previously replying to but I have a question regarding NFP and family planning all the same:

Isn't the Roman Catholic Church against sex other than for procreation even for married couples? Doesn't any form of FP go against that? What makes NFP different, and why is using artificial contraception a sin even if no fertilized egg is formed (e.g. condoms) and killed?

>monogamy arose as a social solution for the sex market were non alpha males would get more chance of reproducing and women would get help raising children

no it didnt, it arose from humans being some of the least sexualy dismorphic species on the planet, if it werent for dicks and tits an ''outside observer'' could hardly tell a pile of human bodies apart unless hed put on gloves and did some fingering
in most such species reproduction goes along some variation of monogamy and either most males get to breed or only the dominant couple breeds and the rest get to help raise the kids

even in species were forms of polygamy occur most males get a monogamous partner, the kind of species where alpha males have harems and the betas beat each other up to be next alpha are something rather different from how humans function, even if humans being the weird fucks they are all sorts of variations abound

>this contributes imensely to social stability, since reproducing is somewhat easir than in absolute natural state allowing for lower competition and men being calmer and able to dedicate energy to other endeavors

no it dosent, theres perfectly stable polygamous cultures and perfectly fucked monogamous cultures and the other way too, and theres hardly any indication any of that is correlated much, disfunction of this kind or the other will obviously correlate with disfunctions of other kinds but that dosent seem to realy have much to do with mono-poly distinction

this is simply because, as typed above, even in polygamous cultures the majority of reproducing couples are monogamous and polygamy in most cases becomes a sort of institution that serves some specific purpose that has to do with basic necessitiesor rural and family life, same as various forms of polyandry

all of these rarely occur in hunter-gatherer type cultures or in urban cultures, its most often a thing in rural and pastoral cultures, where they must mess with family models out of necessity

NOt him but
NFP is fine as you are willing to raise the child if one is conceived, unlike where the pill or condom fail and then people rush for abortions

>why are condoms bad
Because more likely than not the zygote will not form so the sex was merely for pleasure, and God did not make condoms nor has the church said he wanted it done therefore sin

Using the method of NFP, you respect the act of sex as a gift from God and engage in sex when the woman is naturally infertile. With artificial contraception, you nullify the procreative element. Essentially, using BC makes sex recreational instead of the act that promotes love between a married couple that may possibly result in creating another human life. No artificial barriers should prevent that.

Besides, using artificial contraceptives promotes a lot of vices that our society faces: casual sex, the spread of STDs, and low fertility rates.

Also, John Paul II addresses this topic in 'The Redemption of the Body' which can be found here: catholicprimer.org/papal/theology_of_the_body.pdf

If you're ever interested about finding out more about the teachings of the Church, besides the Bible you can see the catechism: vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM

:)

Some people are just ugly and have been fucked over by weak bone genetics, being a manlet or being bald without the proper head shape. Le self improvement meme works to a point, but some guys cannot not be seen as jokes by girls, despite all the grooming fuckery

Nietzsche wasn't a nihilist. That's a simpletons interpretation of his ideas.

>If you're referring to NFP, it's effective. I know married couples that are using it.
No it isn't, it's specifically designed to ensure that catholics continue to have lots of children by giving them placebo birth control method that is far less effective then oral contraceptives or condoms. If your friends are using it and not having unplanned children then they are lying to you and using some other method of birth control as well.

people had casual sex since forever
now they can have it without unwanted consequences
and that's something churches oppose because 'muh morality' and 'god didn't plan for that'
well tough luck you theist pieces of shit, god didn't plan for pasteurization or penicilin and yet here we are

>Can civilized society exist without monogamy
No.

You answered the question already.

>raising children
>social stability

No monogamy = children raised without traditional human family structures and no social stability.

See, humans are fucking social monkeys that need to live in groups with their families...

Not just whoever Mommy wants to fuck this week.

Good reminder that stuff is really more of a Abrahamic religion sort of thing.

Religion itself differs widely all over but because Abrahamic religion represents the overwhelming majority of the human population it's core beliefs get associated with theism itself.

Fucking semetic kikes.

thats exactly why some cultures are polygamous

Ah yes the Ottoman Empire was so stable

it did survive 5 centuries, didn't it?

>catholics continue to have lots of children

That's the goal.

>If your friends are using it and not having unplanned children then they are lying to you and using some other method of birth control as well.

Well, one of the couples got married earlier last year. The other couple is nearing 30 and they already have 3 kids. They use NFP to space out having kids every 2 years.

>penicilin
penicillin*
Invented by a Roman Catholic, by the way.

>now they can have it without unwanted consequences

Have fun treating that STD you got from a bitch that fucked 30 guys before you.

We'll just continue outnumbering you.

>Invented by a Roman Catholic
but not by god, nor was it mentioned in the bible, so it's sinful to use it
same thing with computers or the internet, really
you're going to hell for using them, no matter how many kids you'll conceive using your dumb natural contraceptive methods

really makes me think

I guess I also sinned by eating Hawaiian pizza for lunch, because the Bible never specified I could eat Hawaiian pizza.

You atheists are getting dumber by the day.

So that explicitly means that having sex during the woman's infertile period is ACTUALLY solely for pleasure, since you're actually banking on the chance that no procreation/conception would occur if you've followed the calendar method, wouldn't it? Doesn't intent matter here, especially when the alternative, abstinence, exists?

Oh, thanks for the links, especially the first one.

That's...Not how Catholicism work user. We aren't retarded protestants than will cling to even the old testament. Catholicism adapt with the times.

>Catholicism adapt with the times

We must use this carefully, since we don't adapt to modernism like some Protestant sects who allow homosexuality and female ordinations.

Nice to see a fellow Catholic here, God bless, user.

this has more to do with men in positions of power creating harems
fpbp
most women don't instantly slut out with Chad, only the bimbos you lust after, gb2 /r9k/

the family was a mistake

we should send babies to large scale orphanages where professional carers raise and educate them

Homeschooling is the answer. Get them out of the school systems that push atheism down their throats.

institutions fail without massive oversight, it wouldn't be economical

teaching 'religion' to children should be illegal

Don't tell me you're one of those 'teach them nihilism until they can grow up and then they can go shopping for a faith system'. These people usually end up as atheists or people who followed whitewashed versions of Buddhism or some other eastern fallacy.

Nobody indoctrinates children by homeschooling. Teaching them about the moral life of Christ and His teachings is a good foundation for children that will make them better and more productive adults. Besides, we believe that Christianity is the truth.

>Don't tell me you're one of those 'teach them nihilism until they can grow up and then they can go shopping for a faith system'. These people usually end up as atheists or people who followed whitewashed versions of Buddhism or some other eastern fallacy.

Which you have no real argument for why it's a bad thing other than "They don't believe what I believe."

Having no religious teaching is much fairer to everyone the being blatant bias and agenda pushing by preaching Christianity in schools. The US is a secular state and that shit isn't allowed.

If you're oh so concerned than send you kids to a christian classes at you church on the side and leave the rest of us alone.

You do realise the point of the pope is to explain how the covenant affects the new world

The Holy Spirit spoke through the Pope and he said it was ok, we are mere mortals so do not expect to understand the immortal and the Holy

But teaching atheism is teaching a religion

>nihilism is good
>why does it matter if child suicide goes up

not surprising that a simpleton would perceive the humanities in the way the image depicts in the first place.

Theism needs to die.

not him but it's entirely subjective as to whether or not child suicide rates "matter", just like anything else "mattering" to somebody. I don't really care, for example. there are things I prioritize above booger shits offing themselves.

What is the replacement then that prevents societies falling back to pre Christian standards

standards are subjective. my opinion of standards is different than yours.

This is why Catholicism is good, love for your neighbour helps the survival of the human race

Societies already work without theism retard.

No as in literally what stops things going back to what happened back then

>love for your neighbour helps the survival of genes that are not your own

literal cuck religion

nuking 95% of the population could conceivably help the survival of the human race in the long run, via protecting limited resources from being consumed. your opinions are of no objective metric.

But not the best they could be as under a Catholic theocracy

That's easy to say when the Roman army isn't crucifying your family.

pretty broad-scope question. context of historical materials and access to technology does quite a bit in preventing the world appearing as it did thousands of years ago, regardless of what belief systems people follow.

And ... a social hierarchy helps maintain stability and order

Not 95% but yes we certainly do suffer from overpopulation

not him but isn't that increased cucking? you're supporting society so other people can reproduce and exert power over yourself? wtf.

The Romans did nothing wrong.

>Can civilized society exist without monogamy
Its impossible. There has never been any civilization that hasn't been founded on monogamy and family unit.

t. pseudohistory

>women are the gatekeepers of sex and the agents of partner selection

Only if you have a social system where courtship is expected, as in ours.

But the most common way of reproducing was probably rape for several hundreds of thousands of years.

Keep fighting the good fight user. I envy your demographics. Wish I had a pure virgin I could breed incessantly.

Good thing it won't matter if we establish a fascist state and start burning you degenerates for fuel then ;)

Why? Don't you think ancient man would be protective of their sister/daughters?

>What makes you think that? This is the mentality that results in Christians outnumbering atheists in the west
are you fucking retarded? secularism is literally the biggest its even been. ever. this a result of christians LOSING their member because you know, you cant burn people at the stake anymore for apostacy. and the trend is only going to continue in that direction

Jesus, is that a satire?

Absolutely.

Why do you think this changes anything?

Who's doing the raping if they know retribution will come?

What do you mean?

The fact that a person is protective of his offspring, doesn't mean he didn't rape his wife.

>Catholicism
>neighbour
>bour
>our
hmmm. something isnt quite right about this post. i just cant place it

>where courtship is expected

Reeee

I highly doubt early tribes were based around rape. They lived in small communities and constant rape would lead to instability.

I recently read Sapiens by Harari, it says that early man would share women communally.

Well exactly.

Women are the beneficiaries of the social system we have because they can, given their looks and affability, get a man that is extremely high in social status, looks and income.

It's almost as if capitalistic competition simply exists to arbitrate for women who the best males are for procreation.

fancy way to say youre cuck. you never heard of guys who smoke weed at home all day and still pull lots of bitches?